Topic on VisualEditor/Feedback

Show me both editor tabs

Suggest that new users have "Show me both editor tabs", by default. As they are new, would appear a floating bar with the message, for the first edits:

[ X ]

Change editing mode (your can easily come back, clicking in return).
You can close this bar (you can see it again in your go on editions) or turn off forever.

• How it works: if you are in your first edition and click in "Edit source" (Source / Code Editor), you can change to the visual editor, clicking in this floating bar in the word "Change"). Then, you can come back to the source editor clicking in the "return" button.
• And viceversa: if you are in your first edition and click in "Edit" (VisualEditor), you can change to the code editor, clicking in this floating bar in the word "Change"). Then, you can come back to the visual editor clicking in the "return" button.
• You can close this bar, clicking in the cross (X).
• Your can turn on this bar forever clicking in the "turn-off".
• From a certain number of edition times (i.e. 10 or whatever number elected by default) the bar is automatically turned-off forver.

Just an idea. -BoldLuis (talk) 13:31, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

New section

In VisualEditor would exist the option: Insert > New Section, if you go to the end of the section, bellow which you want to put the new one. --

Another way is using a floating element and put it in the place where the new section is going to be. Or simply, click in a button "New section" and click in the place of the text where the new section is going to be (then would appear a floating bar with the text. "Is it in the correct place?. [Yes] / [No]" (in any case, writting a text in the place would disappear this floating bar / message).

BoldLuis (talk) 13:48, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

The Editing team did some user research when they were working on the VisualEditor/Single edit tab project, a few years ago. Brand-new editors are better off with a single "Edit" tab. (Otherwise, they look at the two options, and hesitate, and wonder which one is the correct tab.) Personally, I prefer two tabs, and I think many experienced editors do. Perhaps the best answer is to have one setting for new editors, and a different setting for experienced editors.

Strong Support. Experienced could mean a default number of editions. BoldLuis (talk) 22:17, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

I think you are the first person to suggest the Insert > New Section idea. Why would you want that, instead of just typing the section heading and setting the formatting in the "Paragraph" menu?

Because I did not know before. I have discovered it with the use. I do not know if it appears in any Help: page. Perhaps the name in the "Format paragraph" could change to "Section" when it is the nowadays "Heading". More clear to me. And more easy for the newbie to find information in the "Wikipedia:" or "Help:" namespaces and in any place about what is "section" instead of the less intuitive name of "Heading". And more alarming: "Wow!! I must be careful, this can cut (=section) the page. Be aware!" ;-) BoldLuis (talk) 22:25, 18 May 2020 (UTC)