Topic on Help talk:Paragraph-based Edit Conflict Interface

Valcio (talkcontribs)

Today this tool does not work: when there is an edit conflict, starts the "old tool".

Max Klemm (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

@ValeJappo: We disabled the tool for edit conflicts on talk pages. If your edit conflict was on a talk page, this is the reason why you saw the old interface. -- For the Technical Wishes Team: Max Klemm (WMDE) (talk) 13:49, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Dvorapa (talkcontribs)

Why? This week every day I've had numerous edit conflicts and all of them with the old interface. First I was thinking this is a cache issue or some bug, but after a week of seeing old bad interface I searched for any explanation (unsuccessfully).

Max Klemm (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Hi @Dvorapa: We turned off the Two Column Edit Conflict Interface for talk pages, because it helps merging two versions of a page. This is not helpful for edit conflicts on talk pages.
I guess the reason why you still see the old interface is that it only is a default feature on the German, Farsi, and Arabic Wikipedia. However, if you want to use it already on the Czech Wikipedia, you should be able to enable it as a beta feature in your settings. --For the Technical Wishes Team: Max Klemm (WMDE) (talk) 08:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Dvorapa (talkcontribs)

I don't understand anything from your answer, I'm sorry, please be more specific. Why do you think it is more helpful to use the old interface for talk pages instead of the new one? Is there a way to turn it back on even on talk pages?

Max Klemm (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Hi @Dvorapa: When an edit conflict occurs, the Two Column Conflict interface works in such way that it needs you to choose either between your edit or the edit of the person you are having the edit conflict with. On talk pages this set up does not make any sense, since you do not want to choose between the other persons comment or yours. Both should be on there. In most cases you only want to adjust the order of the comments. Is this more specific? As always, you can find more information on the Two Column Conflict Edit Conflict View project page.
No, there is currently no way to turn it back on. There will be an additional interface to help solve edit conflicts on talk pages in the future. --For the Technical Wishes Team: Max Klemm (WMDE) (talk) 10:37, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Dvorapa (talkcontribs)

Now I understand your response, thank you for the explanation. But still Two Column Edit Conflict interface also allows both compared versions to be edited, which several cswiki users used to merge both changes also on talk pages, choosing their order and putting them together. In the old interface there is just one edit window with the full page text (not just the conflicting parts), which makes such merge not an easy task. That's what I liked most on the tool's interface: The ability to edit only the conflicting parts, not the whole page and it seemed to me as a key feature of it. I hope this will eventually become the main interface and once again we could use Two Column Edit Conflict tool. Shame I have to turn the Beta Feature off because seeing the new interface in 1 of 10 cases makes me quite confused.

Dvorapa (talkcontribs)

I also hope the talk page edit conflict interface you mentioned will launch soon. It looks awesome on the screenshots.

Valcio (talkcontribs)
Ferdi2005 (talkcontribs)

And why isn't it working also on Wikipedia: namespace pages?

Max Klemm (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Hi @Ferdi2005:, we temporarily disabled the Two Column Conflict interface for the "Wikipedia:" namespace, because there are many discussion happening in this namespace and the Two Column Edit Conflict View doesn't work as well on these kind of pages. We are working on an additional interface for talk pages and will enable it on these pages soon. -- For the Technical Wishes Team: Max Klemm (WMDE) (talk) 13:09, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

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