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JAn Dudík (talkcontribs)

I am not sure, if this is good task. There are articles that have images in some language Wikipedias but not in others. Typical example: article about some music album, newbie looks to en.wikipedia and "voila, there is cover image, lets add it to my wiki's article".

But this image is not on Commons. So part of newbies give it up. But second part will try to upload image to Commons or to home wiki, where will be problem because of en.wiki's fair use.

If there is item with commons category and this task will be active only for these articles, it's better, but also here are many categories without images (e.g. author with book scan in his category).

Sadads (talkcontribs)

+1 Also deducing this from "Depicts" statements on Wikidata is super useful.

MMiller (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Thanks for reading the newsletter and posting your opinions, @JAn Dudík and @Sadads! That's a good point about fair use being different in different wikis. It sounds like you're saying that if such an activity were restricted only to images that are in Commons, then this is more likely to work well. That said, I also imagine there are cultural considerations. For instance, an article about "bread" in Czech Wikipedia might show a kind of Czech bread, but the article about "bread" in Indonesian Wikipedia might need an imagine of a kind of Indonesian bread.

The reason we thought of this task idea is because a lot of newcomers want to add images to Wikipedia articles and think that it will be an easy thing to do. We know that it is actually quite a complicated thing to do: you have to understand licensing, use the right templates, navigate to a completely different website (Commons), etc. So we are trying to think of an easy task that would help a newcomer learn how to add an image so that they will be more likely to succeed when trying to add their own image. Do you have any recommendations of how we could accomplish this?

JAn Dudík (talkcontribs)

Is possible to have list of articles, which

  • are connected to wikidata item
  • have commons sitelink or P373
  • have no image
  • commons category or its subcategories contains image files (.jpg, .gif,...)

When newbie wants to help with images, he should got gallery from this category.

I tried inserting image with VE for the first time - and I got gallery of possible images based on pagename, which often depicts completely different thing. So there is possibility that editor can add bad image (e.g. two villages with same name, one with images second without)

MMiller (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Thanks, @JAn Dudík. These are good ideas that we can hang on to for when we want to try this method!

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