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Ата (talkcontribs)

Hi @MMiller (WMF), @Trizek (WMF), it was nice to meet you at Wikimania! I posted on Village pump in Ukrainian Wikipedia about possible enabling of the Newcomer homepage and people immediately started voting for it (even though I asked only for comments first). It is only two days into the process, so while the discussion goes on, I will finish translating the documentation etc.

Does homepage goes in package with other/all Growth experiments? (I should probably create Phab task then, as instructed on that page). Can we have it as A/B? (This may butter up the users who may not feel enthusiastic).

Thanks )

MMiller (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hi @Ата -- thank you for talking at Wikimania, and for quickly starting a community discussion. I'm glad to hear that so many of your community members are interested. When we begin to work with your wiki, we will start with the older Growth features (EditorJourney, Welcome Survey, Help Panel), and then move on to Newcomer Homepage, which is our newest feature. It will be deployed as an A/B test, so we will be able to see whether it has impact. When @Trizek (WMF) returns to work next week, he can continue the conversation.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hello @Ата! It was good to see you again during Wikimania. :)

Since your community is okay to use the prototypes (yay!), you should indeed create the Phabricator task. That way, we can keep an eye on the advancement of your work concerning translations and all, and I can help you over the entire process.


Ата (talkcontribs)

(@Trizek (WMF), What is the best place to ask questions I get from my community? Doing it here for now.)

Are mentors notified when they get a newcomer assigned to them?

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

(You can go to Talk:Growth for general questions, but specific questions are welcomed on the page they depend of.)

They aren't. We expect newcomers to contact them if they need. However, we are considering to provide ways for mentors to monitor their mentees' activity. But it is just under consideration, and we need to find ways to avoid issues like harassement.

MMiller (WMF) (talkcontribs)

@Ата -- I'm sorry for my delayed response, and thank you for your work getting your wiki ready for these features. Our team is deploying the first version of newcomer tasks this week, so we haven't had a chance to work on deploying to Ukrainian Wikipedia yet, but we will move to that in the coming weeks.

What do you think would work well for notifying mentors when they get a newcomer assigned to them? An Echo notification? A talk page message? Or a Special page listing their mentees? Something else?

Ата (talkcontribs)

@MMiller (WMF), I'm not sure we need any kind of notification. It's more important for a mentor to notice a newcomer's edits than the moment of a newcomer getting assigned to them, isn't it? Thus, a Special page listing mentees sounds more useful.

What about marking mentee's actions on general action pages (like watchlist and/or recent changes page)? something like N, m, b abbreviations we have for new pages, minor and bot edits. @Piramidion also suggested that there might be a pop-up reminder of sort that a mentor will see when going to their mentee's talk page (e.g. "You are a mentor of this user").

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

A filter in RecentChanges or Watchlist, to highlight mentees edits would also be a possibility.

However, I don't know how feasible it would be to create any of these special features.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I've created several tickets about monitoring mentees' activities. Feel free to comment them!

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