Please include a "preview" button next to the "save changes" ("Änderungen veröffentlichen")-button! It's nice that the program kindly reminds me to do so after I hit the save-button and for newbies, which would probably not use the preview-button at all it is fine, but as a user who is used to the old editor I got panic as it looked like I had only the option to save the changes without a previev :) --~~~~
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From [en:WP:KB]: on Windows, Chrome hold Alt+⇧ Shift or Alt+Control+⇧ Shift or Alt, then press p for preview, or v for changes (diff). The modifier key can be different per browser. Note: neither of these works for me in Visual Editor on Chrome, but it's worth a try. - Aron
From the Phab [Task T153306]: Alt+⇧ Shift + p or + v will take you to preview/diff. - Aron
On Mac, it's Control+⌥ Option+p and Ctrl+⌥ Option+v for preview and diff. - Whatamidoing
Yeah, a preview button before the "save changes" button would be nice. I would really like not to have to click save changes to preview my changes
I have found it worthwhile to learn the Keyboard shortcuts for this command. They are the same ones that you use in the older wikitext editors.
Maybe I am blind but I can't find a shortcut for preview in the overview you linked above :(
Can you write it here?
Oh, my fault! You need the main list at m:Help:Keyboard shortcuts, not the extra handful added to VisualEditor.
On my Mac, it's Control+⌥ Option+p and Ctrl+⌥ Option+v for preview and diff. The meta keys are different in Windows (and sometimes by web browser).
@Aron Manning, you should feel free to post your own content in your own message. :-)
For everyone else, Aron has added the Windows keyboard shortcuts:
From the Phab Task T153306: Alt+⇧ Shift+ p or + v will take you to preview/diff.
From WP:KB: on Win, Chrome hold Altor Alt+⇧ Shiftor Alt+Control+⇧ Shift, then press pfor preview, or vfor changes (diff). Note: neither of these works for me in Visual Editor. - Aron
:-) Did not intend to ruin your comment. I hardly noticed your updated link down here... Can I suggest you to update the link in your first comment, and copy the shortcuts there? Feel free to copy the chrome shortcuts too. It would have been helpful to me, thus I believe it will be helpful to others. Thanks.
Ping to move discussion to top. More important than testing copy-paste.
This was reported on plwiki technical noticeboard, too: https://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Kawiarenka/Kwestie_techniczne&oldid=57207917#Powr%C3%B3t_do_edytowania_(Priority_low)
The editing flow is very confusing to me, and shortcuts are not a solution to the problem.
I personally prefer edit -> preview -> edit -> preview -> edit -> preview -> submit flow, and the submit button should be not the first one to reach. Also the preview should be smoothly integrated in the editing flow and not be an extra thing that pops up with an animation. This way no user will feel like using it.
For normal editing I am pretty happy with old wiki editor and the live preview feature (it has its issues but it works very snappy).
This feature forces me to do an "edit -> submit -> maybe preview -> have a look -> go back -> edit flow" which is cumbersome and unnatural.