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DePiep (talkcontribs)

Just now I lost an edit that took me 20 minutes to craft. Thanks. I really thought I was publishing *my* edit (overwriting the other ec edit, with good reason), but in the end my own text was gone. Doesn't the Preview button function as intended? WHY does a feature like this still SURPRISE and DISAPPOINT me?


I have tried to get into this feature (seriously, for is it 18 months?), but from now I will deny and kill it with every option I have. I am a serious editor, this nonsense spoiled my wikiweek.

I mean: these days, every browser has a warning that says: "You really want to throw away your edits?".

Johanna Strodt (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Hello @DePiep, I'm sorry to hear that you've lost your edit. Have you experienced this before with the new interface?

We've looked into the problem that you're describing, but couldn't reproduce it. So to understand what this is about, could you tell us which editor you used, and give us a link to the edit this was concerning? Also, it would be helpful to get a list of the gadgets you have enabled.

For the warning idea, I've created a ticket: T216813

Thanks a lot,

Johanna


DePiep (talkcontribs)

Thanks for this action. I have not experienced this before in the 2-column version, but I must say I never tried this before: to overwrite (overrule) the other edit (the conflicting one). IIRC, when the 2-column ec screen appeared, I choose to have my own edit in the righthand column, and saw my text in there so OK. I clicked Preview button, but it had no effect (no reaction). Then I pressed "Publish" button (=Save) in the blind (unchecked unpreviewed). Moments later I saw that the wrong edit was saved, and I could not walk back to my editing page (where my edited text might still be). I did not open or follow the manual linked. All as I recall. (Usually, I copy/paste my edited text into an extra opened page to merge the edits, i.e., manually).

I was editing Firefox, in old Wikitext not VE.

The edit that won is: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Brexit&diff=884465789&oldid=884462294&diffmode=source]


Beta gadgets: Visual Differences, Two column edit conflict

Gadgets active:

(I will add the list from Preferences later. You need all ~20?)

Johanna Strodt (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Thanks, @DePiep. We'll look into this more beginning of next week. For now, I've filed a ticket for the Preview button that doesn't react: T216837 I could reproduce this myself.

Have a good weekend!

Johanna

DePiep (talkcontribs)

Quite probably I was sloppy checking, it might *not* be a Preview failure (as I tried to describe above). My frustration was: the interaction failing. As I noted before on this ec feature: losing one's edited text is horrifying. Preventing that should be prio #1. (also, I wrote: obvious non-conflicts should be handled more smartly).

Actually, and to be honest: ever since this ec new thing 18 months ago (a "3-colum" version before?), I did this: EC situation -> open new tab with same talkpage -> copy/paste my new text -> save.

Johanna Strodt (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

@DePiep Thanks for the update. I understand your main concern is that it's not clear when you're about to lose your text, which you can't get back. I'll take your remarks back to our team.

Best,

Johanna

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