Topic on Talk:Edit Review Improvements/New filters for edit review

Florentyna (talkcontribs)

I think after some tries and 2 million edits it is too complicated. Too much switches, not really saying where to find what. Even the diasable button for the new feature is heavily to find. In the old version, I needed three clicks to solve everything, now 10+.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

What are the cases you're trying to solve?

Florentyna (talkcontribs)

From my side there are too many scroll down menus. One must go through all of these to find all the things needed. Then, it is not really easy to find out, what is meant. For my edits, for instance - hide or show? Already two times I did it the wrong way. I personally want to see all possibilities of choice at one and have it clickable. The amount of choices went up, this is good. But too complicated to reach.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

There is not only a scroll down menu: there is also a search field, that would ease your filters selection.

Concerning the example of filtering your edits, if you check "changes by you", you will only see your changes. If you check "changes by others", that will show changes not done by you. You can also just highlight your changes, so that you will see them with a selected colored background.

What do you mean by "to see all possibilities of choice at one and have it clickable"? If you select a filter, that filter will be be active and filter what you've selected. You can combine filters from different categories to have a narrower list of results.

Diego Moya (talkcontribs)

I believe Florentyna means having bi-state buttons like those in the old filters; clicking a button enables or removes the filter. Clicking an active filter would disable its effect but not hide it from view.

If so, it's the same feature I suggested. I know it goes against the mental model created by the designers - only showing "currently active" filters in the bar; but it's logical that many users expect that mechanism, since it was how filters have always worked until now.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Get the old show/hide filters back is available by opting-out the filters. I'm sorry but that's the only option I can offer you, while those filters have been tested by multiple users during a while without surfacing the design change you suggest.

Showing only current active filters has been chosen because it is similar to other services online. The goal is to have more people capable of watching recent changes or changes on pages they watch. Research done during the design process has shown that experienced users haven't been blocked by that approach.

I can assist you if you need more advice to apprehend those new filters. Please ask, I'll be happy to help you. :)

Diego Moya (talkcontribs)

What services are similar to this one? Faceted search tools may have "active filter" breadcrumbs, but they usually also have the facets themselves always visible at the side bar, not hidden behind a giant dropdown menu. The paradigm of complex filters useable by the large public, a travel site, which used a filter system like this wouldn't sell many tickets, I presume.

Now I'm curious, what online filter tools did you find which hide the list of available filters?

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

@JMatazzoni (WMF) has made that comparison during the project definition phase. I let him reply to your question.

JMatazzoni (WMF) (talkcontribs)

@Diego Moya is right that most faceted searches show the unselected options as well as the selections. The aspect of the new interface I've said is familiar from major search sites is that users select what they want to include, not what they want to exclude. This is a switch from the past UI but users should find it familiar once they give it a chance.

I'm sure there are good reasons for why we didn't make the filter list visible on the top level of the UI. I'm pinging our designer, @Pginer-WMF, who can explain this approach.

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