Topic on Talk:Page Previews/Flow

I use a laptop. I use the two finger gesture to scroll, which leaves the actual mouse wherever it was last showing as the page scrolls beneath it. As a result, as often as not, when i scrolled a page the mouse would be activating an annoying popup when i was done.

In general, any UI where I feel like I have to play some sort of game of 'avoid the popups' while just moving the mouse around results in a terrible impression of the site. I was looking for a way to turn it off after less than a minute. Thankfully there was one.

I don't think it should be on by default, or even exist. If there were a clickable bit next to the link to open them that would be ok, and even useful, then I could click on either the link, or on the preview if i just want the preview.

But forcing me to carefully avoid leaving the mouse too close a link on articles often dense with links was just infuriating.

What possessed you to take an advertising technique (linking hover adds to keywords in content) that motivated people to adopt ad blockers and make it a part of the wikipedia user experience? I think there's even a wikipedia page about it...with some good advice:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyword_advertising

"Advertisers choosing to test this type will want to exercise moderation to increase Internet user acceptance."

Why would it say that? Because Internet user's really don't like playing 'avoid the mouseover popups', no matter what they contain.

I'm a laptop user too. In fact, when I'm at my desk I too use a trackpad. I never thought of the feature in they way you describe. Thank you for the feedback. It's good to hear you found the option to opt-out. We wanted to make sure that people who didn't like the feature could choose not to use it.

As for the rest, I suggest you take a look at some of our documentation on why we perused this feature and some of our A/B and user testing results to perhaps have a better understanding. The feature has many inspirations, least of which is the oft-enabled Navigation Popups.

I won't try to sway you, but please understand this wasn't born out of ignorance or malice. :) I sincerely appreciate the feedback. I'll be sure to bring it up with the project manager next time we speak.

I also think hover-state popups are absolutely user-hostile. Was surprised, taken aback, and disappointed on the first occurrence.

I DONT WANT TO BROWSE LOGGED IN. PLEASE DON'T FORCE THIS CRAP ON ANONYMOUS USERS

You don't have to log-in to turn them off. Click the "cog" icon, and you can turn off page previews, which is saved in a cookie.

Does not work. Popups show again next time I visit Wikipedia.

It have nothing to do with this addition. Popups were on Wikipedia since the beginning of time. Please stop whining.

I use a touchpad and do 2 finger scroll too and the card doesn't really show up on normal scrolling but they do if I scroll super slow, maybe there should be an option to adjust the delay but I find the feature nice.

I hate them.

I clear cookies when I quit the browser, so every time I re-open Wikipedia I have to disable the hovers.

Hateful distraction.

The choice of words in a few of the comments on this talk page comes across to me as needlessly venomous. Expressing opinions about whether this feature should be enabled by default, how to introduce the feature to logged-in and non-logged-in users, and whether the feature is a good idea in the first place are all subjects that are fair game for discussion. However, statements that go along the lines of "I hate this feature" and "this is awful" are a bit excessive. I ask that people who dislike the feature or anything about its introduction please express their views in ways that are both candid and civil. Making comments like "Please change X", "This causes problems for me", "I wish that disabling this feature was easier", "This makes my browser too slow", or "I don't understand why this feature was developed" may lead to productive conversations. I'm personally not a model of perfect civility, but please avoid going overboard with some of the choice of words here. There are more important issues to be angry about, and this feature has some valuable upsides that should also be taken into consideration before making a judgement about the value of the feature as a whole. Thank you.