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MarcoAurelio (talkcontribs)

I have done some use of this feature at the English Wikipedia and I wonder how hard would be to get this tool ported to the Spanish one. We currently lack curation tools given that the scripts we used for that are mostly broken, and their mantainers no longer active/around. Thank you.

Ymblanter (talkcontribs)

Do you have community consensus that tool is needed? I am all for it, but in the English Wikipedia we discovered that associated backlogs may go unontrollably high and are difficult to confine.

Kudpung (talkcontribs)

It's not been proven that the backlogs have anything to do with the page curation tools. In fact the system was developed in response to an issue concerning backlogs. The current backlog is still unacceptably high but it's not the 39,000 it was in 2011 before the tool was introduced. Since introducing the New Page Patroller group in Nov 2016, the backlog has gone down even more. From around 22,000 to 'only' around 16,000 as of today.

Ymblanter (talkcontribs)

Absolutely, but it still requires considerable community attention. Some communities can choose to not care and prioritize their activities differently.

MarcoAurelio (talkcontribs)

@Ymblanter I wanted to know if as of today this is possible. I see some threads below saying that this is too enwiki designed that might not be possible to "universalize". Before proposing it to the community, it'd be good first if this could be actioned, otherwise I'd have wasted the community time to vote into something that cannot be done :)

MarcoAurelio (talkcontribs)

I guess the sumary given above by 197.218.89.94 means that it is not possible for now.

Kaldari (talkcontribs)

Some parts of Page Curation are easy to port to other wikis, while some parts are not. The main part that is difficult is the deletion handling. English Wikipedia has 3 different deletion workflows: AfD, speedy deletion, and PROD. All 3 are supported by Page Curation, but due to the complexity a lot of that support is hard-coded into the software and would need to be modified for other wikis' deletion workflows. Almost everything else about Page Curation (like all the maintanence tags and notification templates) are configurable on-wiki and thus wouldn't be that difficult to port.

MarcoAurelio (talkcontribs)

Thank you @Kaldari this is helpful. As for eswiki we've also got speedy deletion, PROD and AfD. I guess what would be more needed would be the speedy deletion tags. If the other tags can be configured on-wiki then maybe I could propose this to be enabled there. However looking at the Phabricator board there are a lot of other wikis waiting for this feature as well.

It'd be good if we could develop a wiki agnostic PageTriage extension which could be configured on-wiki for its most part.

Kudpung (talkcontribs)
MarcoAurelio (talkcontribs)

Hi @Kudpung Yes we've got Twinkle there, however it has never worked properly for years. I don't know if it is because we're using outdated code, lack of maintenance or both. Probably the later. I shall maybe have a look at how to update the whole Twinkle code we use at eswiki.

At <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_38#Using_it_at_other_Wikipedia> I requested some time ago guidance to properly port the tool. I'll repeat the request on GitHub and see if we can do something with it.

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