Topic on Extension talk:RevisionSlider

Perhaps it is time to move this feature out of beta?

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Summary by 197.218.89.141
197.218.90.170 (talkcontribs)

Just curious, but is this feature still beta in certain wikis?

Based on Beta Features, such features aren't meant to be left there indefinitely. Given that it seems as this extension is now stable in certain wikis, it should probably get an announcement and removed as a beta feature, see :

So either this needs to become an optional full feature, or yanked from every wiki that doesn't want it. If nothing else, it might drive individual wikis to ask for it to be enabled by default for casual editors, instead of become a gravestone in "graveyard of discarded ambitions".

Considering its popularity [1] chances are that it may become a default wikimedia extension and encourage volunteer developer improve its feature set due to widescale usage ...

197.218.90.170 (talkcontribs)

*instead of becoming

Addshore (talkcontribs)

Feature rollout is currently being planned :)

197.218.88.37 (talkcontribs)
Tobias Gritschacher (WMDE) (talkcontribs)
IKhitron (talkcontribs)

Unfortunately, there is still a hook bug. It looks like it should be fixed before the move.

Christoph Jauera (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Just a small update here:

The hook bug mentioned by IKhitron was fixed in the meantime.

As Tobias mentioned we are currently in the process of testing a different UI. You can find the newest version of the alternative UI on Beta, test.wikipedia.org and here on mediawiki.org.

- Please note, that the version on test and mediawiki has some minor issues with the tooltips right now. The fixes for that should be deployed during next week though.

Best,

Christoph

IKhitron (talkcontribs)

Hi, Christoph Jauera (WMDE), I checked just now, it still doesn't work. Partially. Some problems disappeared indeed, not all of them.

Christoph Jauera (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Hey, @IKhitron that's sad to hear. Could you create a new ticket or comment in the existing one with the problems you still get? - That would be great!

Thanks in advance,

Christoph

IKhitron (talkcontribs)

Where is the ticket, I don't remember, Christoph Jauera (WMDE)? The problem I can see is that after usage of RS, for one revision, thanks action opens thanks page, in place of regular inline question.

Christoph Jauera (WMDE) (talkcontribs)
IKhitron (talkcontribs)

Thanks, Christoph Jauera (WMDE). Looks as it will be deployed next week, because of the switch. So, I'll just wait.

197.218.83.36 (talkcontribs)

> As Tobias mentioned we are currently in the process of testing a different UI. You can find the newest version of the alternative UI on Beta, test.wikipedia.org and here on mediawiki.org.

The new UI is definitely more intuitive than the older one. Dragging and dropping with the old one was a bit confusing and hard to get used to. So this will likely be a welcome improvement.

Great work!

Yeryry (talkcontribs)

How can I get the old one back? The new version is significantly inferior, IMHO. I probably could have just used a userscript to emulate the old version easily enough before, but now that it's out of beta that isn't so easy.

Lea Voget (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Hi @Yeryry thanks a lot for your feedback! Is what is troubling you the fact that you can't click on bars anymore? We are currently working on getting this back - without losing the metaphor we introduced with the new design. If you want, you can follow https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T165831 to be up to date of our current plan. But if you are missing something else, please let us know!

Yeryry (talkcontribs)

Yes, being able to click above and below (not just on the bars) was much quicker and easier than it is now. Also (from T160410) "Pointers cannot be moved further than where the other pointer is" this was very useful, and while users would have needed to get used to how it works, they still do for the new version, which needs more effort to achieve the same results. I also feel the visual design of the old version was much better, but that's another question...

Lea Voget (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Hey @Yeryry, thanks for specifying. I can see that moving the pointer past the other pointer is a shortcut once you understood the system. When testing the revisionSlider with people who were no experts yet, though, this was one of the things that was the most confusing. In their favor we decided to take that option out, and the new design is understood by far better if people have not trained a lot with the old design. However, I created a ticket ( https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T166541 ) so we have a place to gather ideas how to allow expert users to use the function without making it more complicated for people with less experience.

Thanks again for your feedback!

Lea