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WikEd - (Highlighted wikisyntax while editing articles - T101246)

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Doc James (talkcontribs)

Would need color coding in this editor before it would be useful. ~~~~

Doc James (talkcontribs)

By the way I am unable to figure out if someone has asked this question before with FLOW. Is there anyway to search this discussion? The history tab does not allow blocks of edits to be compared. Gah

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Syntax highlighting is planned; in fact, an early version was written back in August, but it's not performant enough to deploy. "Works fine on the fastest computers" isn't good enough for deployment on the wikis, which get edited by people with a wide variety of resources. (If WikEd is working for you, then this would be fine for you. But most editors turn off WikEd because it's so slow on their computers.)

Flow isn't integrated into Special:Search yet, which is one of its major limitations at the moment. I hear that the Collaboration team is thinking about addressing that problem in the coming year. OTOH, I'm happy overall with having Flow on this page, because it means that I can see all the updates via Special:Notifications, no matter which wiki I'm on.

Doc James (talkcontribs)

WikEd is so useful that even with slow connections I use it. One can begin editing before WikEd fully loads aswell. Would be good to see it make faster as agree it does slow things down a bit.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

It's not really about the Internet connection. It's about how fast your computer is. So if you take your laptop to a bad internet connection, you're still (mostly) fine. But if you take a ten-year-old laptop to a good internet connection, it's still impossible.

Doc James (talkcontribs)

Ah good to know. Thanks

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

The leading theory of the moment is that adding paramOrder to the TemplateData should bypass the infobox-scrambling bug. I've added it to Template:Infobox medical condition#TemplateData ; can you do a null edit on the template (the main template page, not the /doc subpage) to get the updated TemplateData active on it?

Doc James (talkcontribs)

Okay done.

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Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Thanks! (I put this reply in a weird place, and I can't even figure out where we first talked about this problem now.)

Sj (talkcontribs)

Amplifying one point Doc James made: WikEd is extremely useful in almost all situations b/c i degrades nicely. You can load wikitext and start editing whether or not it's completed; it gracefully lets you know when it has to bail because the page is too long; it adds a highlight layer to the page (or removes it as it bails) in a way that doesn't delay normal workflow.

It can be annoying to see the switch between highlighted and non-highlighted, and requires getting used to, to use it in low-bandwidth situations; but once you're used to it, you are not slowed down.

I agree that highlighting makes the practice of editing much faster, and hope the WikEd devs are engaged in the neat things you are doing here.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

The WikEd dev does not very active these days (he did post an update today). As to whether it's useful or degrades nicely or "WFM" – for every person who tells me that they like WikEd, I hear from another who tried it and rejected it.

Doc James (talkcontribs)

The key is the options. WikEd can be turned on and off in the editing Window.

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