Topic on Talk:Wikistats 2.0 Design Project/RequestforFeedback/Round1

Neil Shah-Quinn (WMF) (talkcontribs)

@Milimetric (WMF): thanks for going to such lengths to invite feedback! I have a couple thoughts about the structure of these pages, if you don't mind the bikeshedding:

  • I feel like this should be a subpage of a general Wikistats 2.0 page, which would make information about the project much more discoverable (for example, I just now went looking for the pages where people voted on which editing-related reports to keep, but despite checking both here and on Meta I wasn't able to find them). This would have the added benefit of turning neatly into a documentation page when the project is finished (with background info about its development tucked neatly into the subpages). It looks like you're an administrator and have the move-subpage right so it wouldn't take long to move the whole collection of pages together.
  • Perhaps while we're at it we could tame this title and its hierarchy a bit....how about "Wikistats 2.0/Design/Feedback Round 1"? :)
  • It's probably too late to change, but having 8 different talk pages to give feedback on feels very unwieldy. I read through the page on the draft design and came up with three or four different comments in different areas, but now for each separate one I have to figure out which of the 8 pages to put it on, which is a lot of effort just to leave a few quick comments. With Flow's functionality for browsing, rearranging, and hiding topics, having it on a single page wouldn't be too cumbersome.
Milimetric (WMF) (talkcontribs)

On general documentation structure. We, as a team, wanted to move everything off of mediawiki and relocate to wikitech. We went so far as to copy everything to wikitech and stop updating mediawiki. But we ran into a brick wall when trying to delete or re-organize mediawiki, so we just gave up. Honestly, it was a long rambling email thread and ultimately we just didn't think it was worth our donors' money for us to argue it endlessly. If it weren't for that, yes, I would definitely follow your advice and invest time in re-organizing mediawiki.org. We will have everything on wikitech, though, and we're going in the direction you mention here: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Wikistats2.0. The only reason we ran the consultation on mediawiki was so people wouldn't have to sign up for wikitech if they didn't want to.

On discussion structure. That's my bad, I'm a noob at Flow, we'll do it the way you suggest for Round 2, thanks!

Elitre (WMF) (talkcontribs)
  • I added a link to the previous page, which could be moved up somewhere and annotated;
  • Per Dan's invitation, you could use email to leave feedback, that's perfectly ok for a few quick comments.
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