Topic on VisualEditor/Feedback

https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89811 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126368 ?

While editing a page in Visual editor, the page's title is grayed out and cannot be selected or edited.

Editing the title may sound extreme, but I actually saw real users trying to click the title in order to rename a page (or, as we say, move it). Having such an option, maybe with some kind of a confirmation dialog, actually makes sense to me.

But what I could really never understand is why isn't it possible not being able to select it, for example for copying to clipboard. I often find myself wanting to do it, and I cannot. I could just create a Phab task for it, but I'm asking here, because it has been so since the start, and there was probably a reason for this, but I'd like to try to understand it discuss before creating a task.

https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89811 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126368 ?

There have been multiple requests to deal with the "you can't move the page here" issue. But I don't remember noticing that you can't select/copy it. That'd be kind of a pain if you're writing about something with a long or complicated title. (Highly experienced people might remember that they could do {{subst:PAGENAME}} to get around that, but we need a solution that works for >99% of us.)