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A survey has started about Flow

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Sänger (talkcontribs)
Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Distribution of an invitation for Mediawikiwiki users will be done today or at the beginning of next week. It has been postponed due to difficulties to identify active users on that wiki.

ImperfectlyInformed (talkcontribs)

I wasn't really a fan of this survey. I ended up filling out N/A for almost everything. I don't think it's fair to say Flow is better or worse than the alternative right now per se, because it does have weaknesses and strengths. I don't want to mislead the Product team into thinking that Flow is perfect, but I also don't want to discourage them. Flow is necessary, and lots of good progress has been made. Admittedly, I haven't really played with Flow much.

Not necessarily comprehensive list of specifics:

  • I do feel like it is not as good as Reddit, which most internet denizens are familiar with. For example, I would like to be able to vote on comments and collapse threads.
  • Outdenting and adding section headings is unclear, and doesn't roll up into a table of contents, as SMcCandlish has noted below (altho I have trouble finding real specific improvement suggestions from the discussion below).
  • "Hide" is weird - not really clear if that hides it for everyone or just me, but I think it hides for everyone? Maybe it should be report or something. Most users (including someone like, who has been editing since 2007) don't feel comfortable just hiding someone's comments.
  • More whitespace and larger font than I'd like. I guess that's probably configurable, but again, think about the audience... Wikipedia discussions are often HUGE, so extra whitespace can get annoying quick.
Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Thank you for your feedback, ImperfectlyInformed!

Flow is not perfect, we know that, and there is a lot of things to improve on it. We expect to have enough community feedback to create a strategy for the future.

I've read some random comments and results, and Flow users mostly have the same opinion as yours: Flow is good, but not that much. It must be improved because there is a lot of features missing. I've also read some comments like yours, suggesting that kind of improvements. I hope we will adress these concerns soon.

Shanen (talkcontribs)

Survey has closed, probably long ago. I was just referred here in relation to a Flow-related suggestion I'd offered elsewhere, but so far I'm having some difficulty figuring out the context and the survey link was just a distraction of a sort of annoying kind. I had hoped it would help me understand the issues, but... Can the "notice" to edited to show it is closed?

As a Flow feature, I wish my draft comments (here in this input window) were being used to find related comments to call to my attention. That's one of the features I would like to see, too.