Topic on Talk:WMF product development process

Summary by WMoran (WMF)

Adjusted design column

Legoktm (talkcontribs)

UX/UI and overall architecture are two very different things, why are they being lumped together?

Qgil-WMF (talkcontribs)

@Legoktm are you referring to WMF_product_development_process#Design and its related column? I think the term "Design" is used correctly there, with the meaning it has in the context of engineering processes (see i.e. w:Design). I agree it is inconsistent with the use of the term in mediawiki.org (see Design) as in strictly Visual/UX, but I think it is better to fix the latter, not the former. Having Architecture, Performance, and Operations as part of the Design stage makes sense to me.

@Brion VIBBER @Ori Livneh @Mark Bergsma (WMF) what do you think?

Legoktm (talkcontribs)

Yes. I think Brion pretty much summed up exactly what I wanted to say :)

Brooke Vibber (talkcontribs)

The current list of tasks under 'Design' seems mostly focused on UX, with "Architecture and operations" sorta thrown in randomly. :)

What is it that arch & ops would be expected to provide in terms of feedback? If what you're asking for is, say, feasibility assessment, it probably belongs back a step or two in Plan. If you're looking for advice on what technical directions to work in ("should this be an extension or in core?" "should this use a mysql table or a separate storage service?" "should this have a a web API?" "how much JS should we use?") then I think you need it in the build stage along with Performance.

Qgil-WMF (talkcontribs)
WMoran (WMF) (talkcontribs)
Qgil-WMF (talkcontribs)

@WMoran (WMF), I think it is safe to just proceed with the changes and move forward.