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Never do an edit without leaving a summary

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Kghbln (talkcontribs)

This is a golden wiki rule dating back to the very early days and I am very much into it. I teach this as the very first thing to new people interested in wikis. While this may not appear very important for edits in the first place for your own posts it is indeed very much so if editing foreign posts. That's actually one thing that irritated me on bugzilla and currently irritates my on phabricator or on TUX.

Edit: One could argue that providing a summery by adding an Edit: to the post like I am doing it now is enough but in the long run Flow supporting such a feature will be nice I believe.

Quiddity (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Thank you for the reminder. I've updated phab:T59894 to specify edits for any existing content.

Kghbln (talkcontribs)

Thank you for pointing to the task on phabricator. As expected it was already there.

Sänger (talkcontribs)

Same goes for Flow, I don't know where I could put my edit summary to, but hey, this is something new, they don't care about the Wikiverse and good experiences from the communities. In SF they want to invent all new from scratch without being bothered by the unwashed masses (who de facto do the real work here: content, not bling), that's more sexy then just evolving the very good stuff already there.

Kghbln (talkcontribs)

Your post moves this thread into a slightly negative mode which does not help I you would like others to (re)implement features. I see my post more like a strong reminder for important things that should be and most probably are already in the pipeline but have not been implemented yet because other features needed a better polish first. New things cannot have all features from the start. Also I would not like to blame the Flow programmers for things that have been done suboptimal by other programmers of different features in the past, like e.g. VE or so.

Sänger (talkcontribs)

You're right, it's "slightly to the negative", sorry for using your thread for this, but WMF (and it's programmers) have lost next to all AGF they ever had with the fiascos VE (first implementation), MV (with it's extreme aggressive implementation against the communities) and now this unwanted, useless Flow-forum-impersonation with complete loss of connection to the normal wikiverse. Flow is a move away from the wikiverse, towards unwanted facebookisation. It might be fine for programmers to build new things from scratch, it's completey wrong in a well functioning surrounding like WP, especially as requests from the communities are regarded with contempt. The WMF should improve the wikiverse, not build something new in parallel, and Flow is something new in parallel.

Kghbln (talkcontribs)

Your post offends me since I politely asked you not to use this thread for bashing of any type. All you are saying has been said on numerous other places and I deliberately did not participate there. Now I see myself ending up in such a discussion.

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