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WhatamIdoing (talkcontribs)

I haven't checked in on this page in a while. Echo says, "13 new topics on Talk:Flow". That's nice. Which ones are they? Do you expect me to manually count down the un-numbered list in the (hidden) table of contents, make a note of its subject line, and remember that when I get to the 13th, that I'm probably done reading them? This really isn't functional. I need a way to see only the posts and threads that are new, and I need a way to mark the ones that I've read (so that if I get interrupted while reading all 13 threads, I'll be able to figure out where I was when I get back to it).

He7d3r (talkcontribs)

Heh ...and the "way to mark the ones that I've read" must not be automatically marking them as read as soon as I open them, because sometimes I can get an idea that the message is complicated to deal with even before finishing reading it... and I would want to mark it as unread, for resolving the issue later.

DannyH (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Those are good use cases, and they're definitely things that we can work on. Are those things that you can currently do on wikitext talk pages?

He7d3r (talkcontribs)

Yep! Depending on the edit summary (which appears in the watchlist) I can choose to open it or leave it for later (and it will stay bold in the list until I open the page).

Quiddity (WMF) (talkcontribs)

(You're already subscribed to it, but just for others/reference, that's phab:T68876 ("Flow does not integrate with watchlist "changed since my last visit" highlighting"))

Quiddity (WMF) (talkcontribs)

The current system has a way to indicate "new content", via the blue-sidebar at the left (in LTR languages) of each post, e.g.

The &fromnotif=1 string in the URL, is what triggers those highlights, based on the #ID of the post it is linked to.

For editors that use the Echo Notifications links, the Notifications about bundled-new-topics on a Board, and about replies-to-an-existing-topic, get this treatment. For editors that use the "grouped & expanded" preferences, that link is available in the "n changes" link (screenshot). There are possibly/probably other links, that should get this treatment... Suggestions appreciated!

(Sidenote: that does run into some problems, when the oldest "new" content is outside of the first 10 topics that are loaded. Anything loaded in the infinite scroll, will not be properly marked. e.g. here)

Re: wanting to not mark new content as read just by loading it, I've filed phab:T94061 ("Create a way to mark Flow Topics as unread") with a few extra details. (though possibly the use-case will be solved in a different way, per discussions at phab:T93109 and elsewhere.)

He7d3r (talkcontribs)
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