Topic on Talk:Page Previews/Flow

If I have Hovercards enabled, Navigation Popups don't work well. As an editor who uses his Watchlist a lot, Navigation Popups are more important to me.

But why not merge the two?

Re: Coexistence - you should only get one or the other (per the image of the settings panel, at Beta_Features/Hovercards#Settings). However, I think there's a bug that affects Firefox, causing that to not work properly. I've re-opened bugzilla:62952 to examine that.

Re: Merge - Long term, that's the goal. The underlying architecture of Hovercards should enable it much greater extensibility and maintainability, than the Navpopups gadget code. Sadly, Navpopups is in need of a complete rewrite (the volunteer devs who maintain it say so) because it's got so many years of cruft and quick-fixes layered on. Porting the functionality over for full (or damn-near) feature-parity will take a long time, because Navpopups is so complicated and is used in so many niche (but important) ways. Work hasn't started on that yet - they're still validating the solidity of the current simple&base-layer code.

HTH. Thanks for the feedback. :)

Thanks. i wish I could have the functionality of both NOW.

What aspect(s) of Hovercards do you most appreciate?

There are possibilities of adapting Navpopups-gadget somewhat, in the short term. Either via personal.css or even by tweaking the main gadget's code.

the problem with navpop gadget is not the functionality, but the atrocious code (you can think i'm bad-mouthing it, but read what the maintainers themselves write in edit summaries when they have to modify the code and fix bugs...)

personally, the 3 enhancements i'd like to see in hovercards are:

1. when the link has an anchor, show some sentences from the anchor (typically a section), instead of the intro
2. learn to show diffs when the link is to a diff, e.g. from page history, recent changes or watchlist.
3. add to the "settings" form (the gear menu) an option for "text only".

peace.

Yup, the Navpopups maintainers are happy for it to be fully rewritten and extensionized. That will take a while though, so in the meantime we've got to cope with the 2.

Re: 3 enhancements:

1. Filed as bugzilla:63792 (against extension:TextExtracts which Hovercards is using for that aspect)
2. The current plan is to have 2 levels of complexity: with Hovercards as the simple-version primarily designed for readers (so no diff link previews), and Navpopups as the advanced version for more editor-focused use-cases. (eventually having Navpopups' features ported into the new Extension, rather than in the old gadget, but still keeping those features separated as an "advanced" option.)
3. Hmm, interesting idea. That is already possible with navpopups, but I'm not sure whether it is with hovercards. I'll ask, and/or add it to the list of suggested options.

What about creating a wiki page comparing navpop vs Hovercards functionality? Then people could voice their opinions about the most sorely missed features in Hovercards which are available in navpop.