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Alternate Times to Hold Bug Days

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24.72.160.238 (talkcontribs)

As I asked in Git/Gerrit Bug Day Results message, has the time of the first two bug days (Tuesday 17:00 to 23:00 UTC) been a barrier for attendance?

I would also appreciate suggestions for an alternate time or day to hold bug days so that we may increase attendance.

AKlapper (WMF) (talkcontribs)
Qgil-WMF (talkcontribs)

Also, if the Bug "Day" page is available already at the beginning of the week then we can start promoting it and people can start with the work if they wish. Having a point during the week with all the focus is good, but we can also get a lot of work done by people in more DIY mode during the rest of the week.

AKlapper (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Time to start the promotion for this Thursday I guess (blame me for already being late)... :-/

AKlapper (WMF) (talkcontribs)
Qgil-WMF (talkcontribs)

I will promote Bug management/Triage/20130307 later today in social media, homepage, wikitech-ambassadors & Village pump of English Wikipedia. I will also send translation to Spanish & Catalan Village pumps, and you are encouraged to do it to the languages you manage.

Finally, I will collect the email addresses of the bug reporters affected and I will send them an email, as a test of targeted promotion.

AKlapper (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Thanks, very appreciated!

Qgil-WMF (talkcontribs)

I have been editing the page and doing other things, and now Asia and part of Europe is heading to bed. I will do it tomorrow morning. Except the mailing to bug reporters, I will work on this now.

Also, please sign up at the page. Thank you!

Qgil-WMF (talkcontribs)

I won't be sending emails today either. We need to agree on the selection criteria of the reports first. Instead of blocker-normal AND immediate-normal, why not go for [https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=184286&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&bug_severity=normal&bug_severity=minor&bug_severity=trivial&bug_severity=enhancement&resolution=---&chfieldto=Now&query_format=advanced&chfield=[Bug+creation]&chfieldfrom=6m&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&component=General%2FUnknown&product=MediaWiki everything created in the past 6 months]? 92 bugs by [https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/report.cgi?x_axis_field=reporter&y_axis_field=&z_axis_field=&query_format=report-table&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=MediaWiki&component=General%2FUnknown&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&resolution=---&longdesc_type=allwordssubstr&longdesc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_id=&bug_id_type=anyexact&votes=&votes_type=greaterthaneq&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&bug_severity=normal&bug_severity=minor&bug_severity=trivial&bug_severity=enhancement&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&emailtype3=substring&email3=&chfield=[Bug+creation]&chfieldvalue=&chfieldfrom=6m&chfieldto=Now&j_top=AND&f1=noop&o1=noop&v1=&format=table&action=wrap 48 reporters], most with familiar names. Closer to the definition of fresh.

AKlapper (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Good point ("fresh"), but the email to wikitech-l is already out, so let's have this for the next time if it still applies?

Qgil-WMF (talkcontribs)

The email to wikitech and the wiki page text can stay as they are. We would change onoy the Bugzilla search query at the wiki page...

Qgil-WMF (talkcontribs)

I think I have found the best URL for everybody. You can direct people to the priority/severity levels you think more appropriate. Still people looking at that page might find about the rest. I keep putting myself as an example, feeling more inclined to kick minor & enhancements, especially when not prioritized yet.

I will send the posting to the reporters of bugs within the scope you defined at the wikitech-l list though.

Qgil-WMF (talkcontribs)

Is there a benefit in having an Etherpad for each Bug Day? Why not having a mpore established URL for the Bug Day etherpad?

Valeriej (talkcontribs)

One bug day etherpad makes sense. We archive all addressed bug day reports on that bug day's page, so we don't lose that information. If we encourage everyone to test reports throughout the week as well as on the bug day, we can just wait to archive the addressed bug reports at the end of the week.

Is there a reasons we would want to keep a list of reports we didn't address on the bug day? If there is a reason, that may lead us to having separate etherepads.

Qgil-WMF (talkcontribs)

"so we don't lose that information" <--- This doesn't sound like an etherpad to me.

Why not just saving the content of the etherpad in the dedicated wiki page at the end of the day?

Valeriej (talkcontribs)

"Why not just saving the content of the etherpad in the dedicated wiki page at the end of the day?" <- Yes, that's what we do. Sorry, if I wasn't clear. I am agreeing that we can have an established URL for the bug day etherpad.

I'll explain what the process has been for the past two bug days. The etherpads I have created for the past two bug days are based on the months they were held, e.g. http://etherpad.wmflabs.org/pad/p/BugTriage-2013-01 and http://etherpad.wmflabs.org/pad/p/BugTriage-2013-02. I was following Bug Management's Meeting Preparations page. Before the bug day, Andre links all the bug reports from the query we are working from. The first bug day had ~170 reports and I can't find the number of initial reports for the second bug day. During the bug day we comment below each link about actions we took or questions we have about that report. The information we archive on the bug day pages are the reports that have comments under them, which we assume are the only 'addressed' reports, e.g First Bug Day's Page and Git/Gerrit Bug Day's Page.

I agree that we could have one Bug Day etherpad, since we save the reports we address on the event's bug day page.

AKlapper (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Good point - We have to move the Etherpad content anyway to the wiki after the bugday in order to preserve it, so we could also flush the Etherpad and reuse it. Let me fix that right away...

Qgil-WMF (talkcontribs)

According to Project:Calendar the next Bug Day is on Monday 18. We need to update that to... when? Thursday tends to be a busy day in Wikimedia Tech world since we have either Tech Talks or meetups. Wednesday?

I'd also like to create at least a placeholder for the next Fresh bug day on the first week of April.

AKlapper (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Specifying the next bugday on LQT is done now, placeholder for April is not done yet.

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