Topic on Talk:Page Curation

Kudpung (talkcontribs)
  1. To what extent will this make Twinkle largely redundant?
  2. The lists of templates in Twinkle are now so long it's quicker in many cases to type custom messages for creator talk pages.
  3. A list needs to be made of Twinkle items that are NPP specific (many templates are for internal purposes only, and only some of them are regularly used).
Steven (WMF) (talkcontribs)

In regards to the list of templates in Twinkle, we made a list of the most common warnings in Twinkle out of random sample of 1,000 from the last year. We did this with WP:UWTEST in mind, so it doesn't include mainspace tags. But it does include AFD, CSD, and some other article related messages.

Kudpung (talkcontribs)

Thanks. Do we have a similar list for mainspace maintenance templates? If not , can we get one?

Steven (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I went ahead and asked our researcher who ran that query.

Ebe123 (talkcontribs)

I really don't like the tagging feature of Twinkle. With all the sections, it's even harder to tag. Just get the notice tags, content problems tags and the style problems tags section. Nothing else please. Ebe123 20:09, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Kudpung (talkcontribs)

This isn't a problem with Twinkle, it's a problem of people who write new templates and ask the developer to to add them to Twinkle. I've already mentioned somewhere that I now actually find it quicker to type custom messages or paste ones I made myself rather than hunt through the list at Twinkle.

A very quick remedy - which I think the Twinkle developer could be asked to do - would be to provide mouseover tooltips previews of the templates. They went halfway with the new Twinkle interface by offering a 'preview' button, but that's not quite the same as shortcut for choosing the template, it's more useful for previewing any manually typed additions to the template before it's finally posted.

Another quick solution would be to offer a feature in Twinkle prefs for users to customise their Twinkle lists.

Steve is currently running experiments with templates, including some stats about their use, but I feel again that this is an issue that should also take note of empirical reports; for example, I'm an extremely busy editor and use Twinkle a lot, but there are a great many uw that I have never had occasion to use. I might go through them all, and make a list of the ones I believe to be superfluous and/or redundant at least to to Twinkle, andbpost the list here for discussion.