Topic on User talk:Jasper Deng

Frigotoni (talkcontribs)

Hello, why did you revert my changes on mediawiki? The filter would have prevented abuses like this one for example: User:AlyciaTri. You should have refrained from restoring your version, in my opinion, since there are no false positives at all. In this way you have to follow all spammer's changes (part of this site, feel free to surf...), and when it updates its way of spamming (the text), you will have to reupdate the filter, whereas the site remained alike.

Jasper Deng (talkcontribs)

No. Your change caused the filter to block a user wrongly. Furthermore, I looked at its regex and for a blocking filter, that's way too general of a filter.

Frigotoni (talkcontribs)

Nope, you are really far short of the target. Your current version continues not preventing some Ntsamr spammers from editing, and that would never have happened if you hadn't revert my version. The latter, was indeed thought to block that specific kind of spammer, and, barely it can give false positives. Regardless of the fact that my version is used elsewhere, any new user registered that includes a link on his user page normally has not good intentions, at least on mediawiki, where there are just spammers. So, how can you prove it, if you did not even try that version?

Jasper Deng (talkcontribs)

The fact that your version blocked a user wrongly is something I can't tolerate, and I predicted your filter to make more false positives because it did not specify that the user had to match the particular ntsmr phrases.

Frigotoni (talkcontribs)

The fact is that you simply don't understand how the filter works really, otherwise you wouldn't make such deprecable speeches. Have you seen at least, on outreach how it blocks only spiteful users? And to think that there there are not so many spammers as here. Now, apart from the fact that it has not made false positives anywhere so far, supposing that it makes a false one: you can simply check it from Special:AbuseLog, and try to understand why the filter sprung. Do not guess about future then please.

Jasper Deng (talkcontribs)

I understand the filter syntax perfectly well. I don't judge the filter based on how it acts on other wikis, but from its conditions.

I cannot see why it would not produce any false positives if it didn't explicitly check for the NTSMR sentences, when the filter is trusted to block such users.

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