It seems that a patroller or admin can only mark edits "patrolled", if they were created before the user had the user rights. But with small wikis where theres a lot of older edits that are not parolled, these can not be marked, and therefore the lsit can never ble cleaned up, examples sv.wikivoyage.org, +2239 Unpatrolled pages on Wikispecies.
Can the user right be changed so it covers longer time back, or likevise?
Or is there any other solution for this?
I am not completely sure, if I understand what you mean: Do you say that a patroller can only patrol a revision, if this revision was created before the patroller got the patrol user right? Or can he only patrol it, if it was created after he got that right?
Anyway, this is not how patrolling is intended to work. If one of the above is the behaviour you see, I would consider this a bug or at least a configuration problem.
Patrollers (and admins) seems only to be able to patrol files that was created after the user got that right? The user can be that the older files are unpatrolled, they are marked with the red mark ! (This edit has not yet been patrolled) but the user cant mark that file as patrolled?
Which means that some wikis will have thousands of unpatrolled files that never gets patrolled, in case of all admins and patrollers got their user rights after the file was created or edited?
So the problem is that a patroller can only patrol revisions, which were created, after he got the patrol user right.
I see that wikivoyage and wikispecies are affected so I guess that most likely this is also an issue for other wikis.
Patrolling is part of the MediaWiki core and quickly skimming through the source code I have not found any "time restriction"...
Are you sure that this actually depends on the date on which the user got the patrol right? I mean this date is not stored in the user_groups table. You could only obtain it by doing some more complex queries to the log table, which most likely would have bad performance. I guess that this is not what is going wrong here...
I dont know, all I can say is that on the files that were created, or edited before I got the user rights, have no link [Mark as Patrolled]. Either at the bottom of the pages, or in the diff´s. Dan Koehl (talk) 20:02, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
What I do is guessing currently - I do not have an explanation for what you see. I have now tested that in one of my wikis and there I do see the patrol links with a user whom I just gave that user right a few seconds ago.
Are you the first or the only user with the patrol user right?
Maybe the problem is that for old revisions the "patrolled" field (rc_patrolled) is somehow set incorrectly. If there are other users with the patrol right, please contact one of them. This user most likely got the user right at another time than when you got it. I am interested in the situation for files, which have been created or edited inbetween. What about these files? Can one of you two patrol files from the time between you and him got the user right? Or can you both not?
First, let me thank you for your time and willing to solve this.
At Wikispecies, Im the admin/crat with the oldest time, I belive I see all unpatrolled files, and can patrol them. The problem is, theres about 2239 not patrolled edits. I took the inititaive to ask Steinsplitter to use his bot on WS why we know know how much work we have...
So I inititiated to establsih patrollers user rights on WS, as well as inspiring admins to start patrol files. And here the problem arise, those apr 30 users, who has this user rights since between 23rd of Feb - until now, cant patrol all those old files. Obviously they can see that thay are unpatrolled, but when landing on the articles, or in diff mode, theres no [Mark to patrol] link tp press - they can help out.
On the sv voy I have admin user rights temporarily, (that wiki has been dead for over a year, but I have the ambition to rewake it) and when cleaning up, I noticed the same problem, I can only mark as patrolled the files that were created after I got the user right.
I guess it should be possible to patrol olf files on a wiki, but in those two cases it seems its not possible, for some reason.
I hope I was more clear this time. Ill try to get proper answers to your questions above, which need that I involve the users with fresh patrol rights.
At the bottom of my WS talk page you can read about the confusion we had, see the subheaders patrol rights, and especially the answer frpm user Hector Bottai
Once agin, thanks for your time.
