بحث صفحا مشورو 2019/شرڪت ڪندڙ گروپ سائنِ-اَپِ ڪريو

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شريڪ گروپ "مرڪز-۽-ڳالهائڻ" بناوت جو 2019 2019 بحث صفحو مشورو جا وڌيڪ اهم حصو آهن.هن وڪيءَ جي بنيادي منصوبو صفحي، ميڊياوڪي.آرگ، ان سڄي عمل دوران "مرڪزي هنڌ" هوندو. مختلف قسمن جي وڪيميڊئنز کي پنهنجي خيالن جي اظهار لاءِ اجازت هوندي، اسان چاهيون ٿا ته هرڪوئي پنهنجي بنيادي ٻوليءَ هي ماحول ۾ ڳاله ٻوله ڪن جتي کين آرام ۽ سڪون محسوس ٿئي.

شريڪ ٿيندڙ گروپ جو نالو ڇا آهي؟
A formal or informal name to identify the participant group. This can be an existing name (such as an affiliate name or WikiProject name) or an new name just for this consultation.
ڪهڙِي ٻوليءَ ۾ ؟
The participant group should discuss talk pages in whatever language they feel most comfortable. The final report will however be done in English.
بنيادي رابطو لاءِ ڪهڙو واپرائيندڙ هوندو؟
Participant groups can be as large or small as they decide, but each group needs one (or two users) to coordinate the group with the central talk page consultation here on MediaWiki.org.
This user needs to read and write English. We will be in regular contact with this user to make the process as easy as possible.
This user commits to treat all feedback and opinions equally, and take them into account in the final report.
توهان پنهنجي گروپ سان ڪيئن مشورو ڪندو؟
For some groups this may be on their home wiki, others may decide to discuss on another website (such as a social network, as many communities already do), while others may want to talk in-person, such as at an edit-a-thon.
توهان پنهنجي بحث جي دستاويزسازي ڪٿي ڪندو؟
For conversations that happen on-wiki, please provide a link to the discussion. Setup a separate page on (biggest) wikis may help to track all the feedback. For conversations that happen off-wiki, please provide a link to a written summary of the discussions. These can be in your preferred language, and we will coordinate translations later.

Phase 2

Community Noun project 2280 white.svg Click to read the Phase 1 report!
In its second phase, the consultation is focusing on conversation around trade-offs. Community summaries for Phase 2 are due by June 24, 2019. Each participant of the group gives individual feedback related to the below questions:
  1. What do you think of the proposed product direction?
    Context: The Wikimedia Foundation proposes building a new, clearer design on top of existing wikitext talk pages. It will offer simpler tools for replying, indentation and signatures. You could continue to use wikitext on talk pages, if you prefer that. It should also be possible to participate in a discussion without using wikitext.
    Question: What do you think of this product direction?
  2. Marking separate discussions
    Context: People want to watch individual sections on the talk page. They want better notifications, archiving, and search. To do any of this, we may need to create a more structured definition of what counts as a single discussion. This may mean making changes to the wikitext conventions on a talk page. For example, we may create a new way that discussion headings look in wikitext, or a new link that you need to use to create, rename or split a thread.
    Question: What are the advantages and disadvantages of that approach?
  3. Helping newcomers find the talk pages
    Context: Newcomers have difficulty finding talk pages. During user tests, only one person out of ten found the بحث tab. Most testers looked for a بحث tab on the opposite side of the page, where all of the other tabs and links are. Many people also expected to see links to discussions about specific sections in the article. We may want to move the link to the talk page to the opposite side of the article page. We might add discussion functionality connected to individual sections.
    Question: What are the advantages and disadvantages of making the connection between article content and discussions more visible?
  4. Where to show discussion tools
    Context: Currently, many wikis have community discussion spaces in the project namespace (Project or Wikipedia:), rather than in a talk namespace (Project talk or Wikipedia talk:). The project namespace is often used for village pumps/cafés, noticeboards, and some workflows, such as Articles for deletion. The system will need to know where discussions happen, so that it can display the new tools in those discussions, and not display them on other pages. There are several potential ways to do this. One of them is to move all discussions to a talk namespace.
    Question: What are the advantages and disadvantages of doing that?
  5. History tradeoffs
    Context: Sometimes, you need to see the history of the entire page. Other times, it would be more helpful to see the history of only a single discussion thread. It would be ideal if we could provide both, but we're not sure how to do that.
    Question: What are the advantages and disadvantages of having a complete page history or a specific thread history?
  6. Metadata location
    Context: Some wikis place templates at the top of article talk pages. These may show instructions, warnings, or FAQs. They may hold page quality information, link to relevant WikiProjects, or identify past activities. Many new users are confused by finding non-discussion material at the top of an article talk page. It would be helpful to move some or all of that content somewhere else on the page, or under a different tab.
    Question: What are the advantages and disadvantages of that approach? Which templates are crucial for the proper use of a discussion page, and which could be moved somewhere else?

Every participant gives others the opportunity to express themselves: we're collecting feedback, so this is not a vote or a decision process. At the end, all of the feedback will be documented.

Participant groups

Community summaries for Phase 2 have been posted!

Note for volunteer coordinators: please add your wiki to the lists below:

  • The first table lists pages that are ready to receive feedback. A banner will be displayed to logged-in users on your wiki, using the provided page.
  • The second table is for pages that are still under construction. When ready, please move the page to the first table, so that the link can be used in the banner.

Confirmed participant groups
What is the name of the participant group? Which language? How will you consult your group? Access the discussions Which user will be the primary contact? Notes
چيني وڪيپيڊيا چيني On-wiki, Facebook, Telegram چيني Taiwania Justo
انگريزي وڪي وسيلا انگريزي On-wiki انگريزي Beleg Tâl
انگريزي وڪيپيڊيا انگريزي On-wiki انگريزي Jc86035
فرانسيسي وڪيپيڊيا فرانسي On-wiki فرانسي Lofhi
Russian, all wikis روسي On-wiki روسي Sunpriat
جرمن وڪيپيڊيا جرمن On-wiki جرمن MBq
Dutch Wikipedia ڊچ On-wiki ڊچ Ad Huikeshoven
Wikidata انگريزي On-wiki انگريزي Jc86035
Polish پولش On-wiki پولش
ٿائي وڪيپيڊيا ٿائي On-wiki ٿائي Tris T7
چيڪ وڪيپيڊيا چيڪ On-wiki چيڪ Dvorapa

Under construction groups

To be confirmed groups
What is the name of the participant group? Which language? How will you consult your group? Access the discussions Which user will be the primary contact? Notes
جاپاني وڪيپيڊيا جاپاني On-wiki جاپاني Bletilla

This second table is for groups that are under creation. If your group is ready to receive feedback, please move it to the first table.

You can also participate by leaving a comment on the report's talk page.

Phase 1

Phase 1 groups

In its first phase, the consultation is not a debate or a process to get a final decision on agreeing on what to do/not do. Each participant of the group gives individual feedback, following the guidances:
  • When you want to discuss a topic with your community, what tools work for you, and what problems block you?
  • ڳالهہ ٻولهہ لاءِ بحث صفحن جي باري ۾ نون ايندڙن ڇا ڪم ٿيو، انهن کي ڪهڙي شيءِ روڪي ٿي؟
  • توهان جي برادريءَ ۾ بحث صفحن بابت ٻين کي ڪهڙي جفاڪشي ڪرڻي پوندي آهي؟
  • توهان بحث صفحن تي ڇا چاهيو ٿا ته توهان ڇا ڪري سگهو ٿا، پر ٽيڪنيڪي حد بندين سبب اهو نٿا ڪري سگهو؟
  • "وڪي بحث مباحثو" جا اهم پاسا ڇا آهن؟
Every participant gives to others the opportunity to express themselves. At the end, the feedback is documented (see below).
موٽي ملندڙ معلومات (فيڊ بئڪ) جمع ڪرڻ ڪڏهن ختم ٿيندي؟
Community summaries for phase 1 are due by April 6, 2019. Ending the consultation by March 31 may be a good option to have enough time to analyze and structure the feedback.

شرڪت وارا گروپ

هيٺ اڳ کان موجود گروهن جي فهرست آهي.

Community summaries are due by April 6, 2019. We advise communities, especially the ones that would have had collected a lot of replies, to end the conversation by March 31.

We do not advise creating new groups now, unless you can get a significant amount of feedback before the due date.

پَڪ ڪيل ڀاڱيدارَ گروپ
شريڪ ٿيندڙ گروپ جو نالو ڇا آهي؟ ڪهڙِي ٻوليءَ ۾ ؟ توهان پنهنجي گروپ سان ڪيئن مشورو ڪندو؟ توهان پنهنجي بحث جي دستاويزسازي ڪٿي ڪندو؟ بنيادي رابطو لاءِ ڪهڙو واپرائيندڙ هوندو؟ نوٽس
عربي وڪيپيڊيا عربي on-wiki, Wiki-ar mailing list, Twitter Arabic Wikipedia

Talk pages consultation 2019

User:Dyolf77
ڪئٽالن وڪيپيڊيا ڪيٽالان on-wiki Consulta sobre Pàgines de discussió 2019 Mikicat I've set up a section in the main community discussions' page to talk about it.
چيني وڪيپيڊيا چيني on-wiki, Facebook and Telegram 2019年討論頁諮詢 (Talk pages consultation 2019 on Chinese Wikipedia) Taiwania Justo
Commons Mainly English on-wiki c:Commons:Talk pages consultation 2019 Jc86035 (provisionally); possibly others As above. Jc86035 (talk) 14:53, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
Dutch Wikipedia ڊچ on-wiki Dutch Wikipedia

Overlegpagina's raadpleging 2019

User:Ad Huikeshoven (talk) -
انگريزي وڪيپيڊيا انگريزي on-wiki English Wikipedia

Talk pages consultation 2019

Jc86035 (provisionally); possibly others I've set up a section on the page for users to indicate that they would be interested in summarizing the discussion and would be able to do it. Jc86035 (talk) 14:33, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
انگريزي وڪي وسيلا انگريزي on wiki English Wikisource

Talk to us about talking

User:Beleg Tâl
فرانسيسي وڪيپيڊيا فرانسي on wiki Wikipédia en français

Consultation sur la communication 2019

Lofhi
French Wiktionary فرانسي on wiki Wiktionnaire en français

Sur les outils de discussions

Pamputt
جرمن وڪيپيڊيا جرمن on-wiki Globale Konsultation zum Thema Kommunikation 2019 Sänger
ھندي وڪيپيڊيا هندي on-wiki Talk to us about talking Wikilover90, J ansari (provisionally); (Possibly others) I can be reached via Wikimail or my talk page
ھنگرين وڪيپيڊيا هنگري on wiki Konzultáció a vitalapokról és a közösségi kommunikációról Samat
Iberocoop اسپيني, پورٽگليز, اطالوي Telegram group on meta-wiki, Iberocoop space Superzerocool I'm a Tech Ambassador for Spanish Wikipedia, but I'd prefer do this volunteer work on Iberocoop.
جاپاني وڪيپيڊيا جاپاني on-wiki Japanese Wikipedia

2019年ノートページに関する協議

Bletilla
Norwegian Bokmål Wikipedia نارويائي بوڪمال on wiki Norsk bokmål Wikipedia

Hvordan snakker vi med hverandre

Jeblad (talk) Seems like it is only me on the discussion page, so it will not be much summarizing to do! Jeblad (talk) 12:37, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
پولش وڪيپيڊيا پولش on-wiki Dyskusja Wikipedii:Konsultacje w sprawie stron dyskusji, Informational page I plan to make this place also for sister projects in PL or ask them about another place.
روسي وڪيپيڊيا روسي on-wiki w:ru:Википедия:Форум/Архив/Общий/2019/02#Консультация по страницам обсуждений 2019
Topic:Uv6uphqn90bxqloh
Sunpriat From our old discussions around Flow, you can pick up a few suitable thoughts about communication systems in general: 1 2 3
Thai Wikipedia, Newcomers ٿائي on-wiki, Facebook Thai Wikipedia, newcomers

Talk pages consultation 2019

User:Tris T7 (User talk:Tris T7) Contact me via sister Project on Meta, Commons, & Global account User:Tris T7
Wikidata Mainly English on-wiki Wikidata

Talk pages consultation 2019

Jc86035 (provisionally); possibly others As above. Jc86035 (talk) 15:47, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
MediaWiki Stakeholders' Group mainly English in person at EMWCon Spring 2019 Talk pages consultation 2019/Program and event organizers User:MarkAHershberger

Under construction groups

تصديق ٿيل گروپن ٿيڻ لاءِ
ڪهڙِي ٻوليءَ ۾ ؟ توهان پنهنجي گروپ سان ڪيئن مشورو ڪندو؟ توهان پنهنجي بحث جي دستاويزسازي ڪٿي ڪندو؟ بنيادي رابطو لاءِ ڪهڙو واپرائيندڙ هوندو؟ نوٽس
سربيائي وڪيپيڊيا سربيائي on-wiki w:sr:Consultatio and comunication Contact me on еn: User:Intermedichbo ср: Корисник:Intermedichbo Intermedichbo My name is Milorad Dimic MD. I am a Specialist of Aviation and Hyperbaric Medicine. A place for communication — Корисник:Intermedichbo
维基中文文史类条目小组 چيني on-wiki User:Daniel J Zhao
Bulgarian Wikipedia / Българската Уикипедия بلغاريائي on-wiki TBC User:Dreamsparker My name is Preslav Yankov and I would wish to help with all my knowledge to the development of Wikipedia.
بنگالي وڪيپيڊيا بنگلا on-wiki, Facebook and Discord discord .gg/JSD9EXP Talk pages consultation 2019 PromiseKun
English Newcomers انگريزي on-wiki and Instagram (additional) English Wikipedia, newcomers

Talk pages consultation 2019

User:Manupriy Ahluwalia (talk) I've set up a section for this purpose on my Talk Page.For Instagram you can contact me on @manupriy.User:Manupriy Ahluwalia
Hausa وڪيپيڊيا هوسا on-wiki Talk pages consultation 2019 The Living love
سنڌي وڪيپيڊيا سنڌي on-wiki, Facebook and Instagram (additional) Sindhi Wikipedia, existing & newcomers

Talk pages consultation 2019

User:JogiAsad ; (Possibly others) I've set up a section for this purpose on Sindhi Wikipedia.For Instagram you can contact me on @Sindhi_Wikipedia_Official.User:JogiAsad

This second table is for groups that are under creation. If your group is ready to receive feedback, please move it to the first table.

If your community is not listed above, please go to the top of the page to find the information about creating a consultation group.