Talk:Wikimedia Apps/Commons

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The concept of 'Upload Later'[edit]

The concept of 'Upload Later' does not make sense for the Android app, since our primary end point would be from the Gallery / Camera app. So the photo is *always* there, and you can upload them whenever you want. 'Upload Later' only made sense with our WLM app model - html5, without native access to the underlying Android intents system. It does not make sense for our Native Android app Yuvipanda (talk) 18:42, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

If the point is that its superfluous as the image will already be saved in the gallery then that makes sense. If its the fact that Gallery / Camera app are the entry point then I disagree. We need to have an image capture pipeline within the app itself Tfinc (talk) 18:46, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
It is already saved, and you can choose to share whenever you want, yes. We'll have an image capture pipeline from within the app itself, but I don't think we should aim for that in iteration 1. And even then, it can be a simple 'pause uploads' toggle in the upload queue, which counts as a good small feature, and not as a large chunk by itself. I think we should aim for iteration 1 to be a super solid version that people who already know of / use commons can use to get stuff up, and with the technical base sound, go on from there. Yuvipanda (talk) 18:52, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Roadmap[edit]

I've only just installed the app and must hit the road soon to join a biker gang going to one of my phototarget areas, but I'll spout my uninformed reaction rather than wait for tomorrow and sober reflection. As hinted in Talk:MobileFrontend/Photo upload I am delighted with the idea that my smartphone can find a target, snap it, and send direct from the location, with relevant information already entered. The WLM Monuments app did this well, despite minor irritations. The upload button of the "Alpha Dragon" version of the WP moble site did it more completely, more slowly and with different irritations caused partly by the great ambition of automatic picture insertion. I expected using a special app in my phone would act more like the WLM map, only better integrated and without the rapid battery drain.

Instead the trend seems to be towards lesser integration. The Commons app stands separate from the Wikipedia app, which stands separate from the Mobil Site, which is the one that the superior mapping of Google Maps connects to. That means there's no simple straight path from map to article to upload process. This afternoon after leaving the gang I expect to see the little W signs on Google Maps, see whether there is already a picture or only a bad one, and go snap it. Previous methods would instantly upload the pic with relevant information like name of target (from article name), geocoordinates, a crude attempt at verbal description, and in some cases a somewhat relevant geographical or topical category or two. Instead, it seems none of this will go into Commons except where I key it in on the tiny glass keyboard. The phone knows much about what it's doing; the Commons description should be filled with such information to be checked when I bring my brain home to the big screen, fast connection and clickety keyboard. Jim.henderson (talk) 14:11, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

We're literally two weeks into the project, it ain't done yet. :) --brion (talk) 22:35, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
@Brion VIBBER: - Can you integrate something like this in the app: https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikishootme/ ? Ideally people would be able to earn fake-internet-points for uploading pictures. But in any case the connection of this app with the wikidata-database seems natural to me and would also take care of many image requests. A second database would be still be required though, because there are many image requests for articles that actually already have an image. ---Tobias1984 (talk) 09:37, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Shelve Notifications for now?[edit]

I think we should wait on Echo to be rolled out before doing Notifications. Can't be done 'right' now without eating up an enormous amount of bandwidth (I'll have to literally make multiple requests for every image you contributed *ever* to be able to make this useful). Yuvipanda (talk) 12:00, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Requested images[edit]

Will the app also connect to the database of requested images and show nearby requested images similar to "Wiki loves monuments"? --Tobias1984 (talk) 19:21, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Hello Tobias! Would be a fun exercise, and something I can investigate. Are 'requested images' databases already organized somewhere? Yuvipanda (talk) 19:26, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
I think all of the requests are handled here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_pictures. --Tobias1984 (talk) 19:29, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
There is also this page on Commons: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Picture_requests. Maybe the app could also have a "request image" button where the user can enter the information and it then gets added to the database and added to the Commons or Wikipedia requests. --Tobias1984 (talk) 19:07, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
Wonderful! Some form of merging all these together into a sortof machine readable pageable way would be needed before we can use this on the app. Thoughts on how to do that? A bot perhaps? Yuvipanda (talk) 19:15, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
In the requested images there are sometimes links to a map with all the requests: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_requested_photographs_in_Belgium (There is a box on the right hand side of the screen where the requested images can be shown on a map). Not sure if they are generated by a bot. The commons requests look like they don't have any kind of structure, so maybe one would have to go through them one by one. Plus, some are probably duplicates from the Wikipedia requests. --Tobias1984 (talk) 21:56, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Android requirements[edit]

Does it really need to be compatible only with Android 2.3 and up? I have tried it on 2.2 in the past and it was crashing and I had the impression that it was some bugs that would be fixed. If it can have a little more backward compatibility it will be better. 2.2 still has a 7,5% market share [1] and I guess the drop in percentage is not because people are throwing away their old phones but because of new devices with Android are getting more share. -Geraki (talk) 15:43, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello! The major reason that 2.2 support was dropped was because there is only one person working on it actively (me!) and ensuring compatibility with 2.2+ would be much harder than with 2.3+, since that would mean testing on 4 variants (2.2, 2.3, 4.0 phone, 4.0 tablet) than on 3. Considering the fact that even the lowest end newer devices are sold with 2.3, and cameras on 2.2 devices that aren't upgraded are poor anyway, we've decided to not support 2.2 now. If someone was super-keen on getting 2.2 support, I'd be happy to review patches. But I don't think I'll work on 2.2 support myself. I will, however, ensure proper 2.3 support for a long, long time! :) Yuvipanda (talk) 17:27, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Bugs?[edit]

  1. On the screens of smartphones file name mixed up for the text the download status. Is it possible move the text-label above?
    Filed https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47458, will be fixed next release :) Yuvipanda (talk) 16:03, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
  2. When downloading a file in smartphone's Task Manager is written "1 file uploading". It is necessary to add a message to TranslateWiki for localization. And the number of uploads.
    Filed at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45695, will be poking appropriate people to see how this can be fixed :) Yuvipanda (talk) 16:03, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
  3. Is no way to remove the image from the application, which did not uploaded (Failed)--Iluvatar (talk) 12:59, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
    Filed as https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47459. Thanks for the feedback! Yuvipanda (talk) 16:03, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
  4. Source on, Bugs at and Open Source software... Something is missing :). Sorry for my English.--Iluvatar (talk) 23:01, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Monuments 2013[edit]

Will this app replace last years wiki-loves-monuments-app? I think a tab that appears for the duration of the contest would be an excellent idea. --Tobias1984 (talk) 18:50, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Old app: link --Tobias1984 (talk) 18:58, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
It is part of the plan, but we don't have concrete information yet. Will be there in a few weeks! 122.174.104.109
I am always hoping that image request will some day go directly to this app. There are so many natural monuments and other things that need pictures. This app would be the perfect way of turning the whole thing into a game. Take more pictures get more points. Geo-caching is so popular, why shouldn't it work with: "Find this place, take a picture, get golden stars" :). --Tobias1984 (talk) 08:42, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

2014 Update: On Wikidata items are now created for monuments. It would be nice if the app could search for monuments that don't have a picture. The discussion is taking place here: d:Wikidata:Project_chat#Wiki_Loves_Monuments_UK ---Tobias1984 (talk) 11:35, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Advertising direct apk download on Android[edit]

Current announcements about the app such as [2] or [3] only advertise the Play Store as a way to install the app on Android devices, which is not an option for Android users that do not have the proprietary Play Store app installed or do not have a Google account to use it. Maybe it would be relevant to also provide a direct link to the apk file for direct installation? --A3 nm (talk) 19:17, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

They are available at Mobile/Release history. We'll include the link in future email announcements. Apologies about the oversight! 122.174.104.109 06:52, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! That said, as there are still site notices advertising [4], maybe it would make sense to edit this page to add the link? (The page is protected so I can't do it myself.) --A3 nm (talk) 08:33, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Map wishes[edit]

It's been a few months since my last comment, and a couple weeks since User:Maryana (WMF) called to interrogate me, a user who better knows the ins and outs of the local geography than of software, and she got me to thinking. The reason why I often use the Mobile Web version of Wikipedia, and seldom the Commons App, is the presence of Google Maps on my HTC EVO Android phone. On a photo expedition I see a map with W's on it, tap a few of them and for each, tap the "full article" link to see whether Wikipedia has a picture. If not, go there and snap it, and repeat to find other targets further along. The Commons app for Android has no maps showing the locations of either pictures or articles.

What would be terrific would be a map that shows both. I could spend much less time stopping by the roadside to diddle with the phone; more time going to the target and finding a good location for the shot. Optional layers could add locations for local monument articles, articles with photorequest templates, and probably others that will occur to someone. Since Google would presumably take little interest in adding several layers that would appeal only to Wikipedians, that suggests some kind of cooperation with OSM or other mapper with similar motives.

Also the upload process of Wikipedia Mobile site is easy for an article that has no picture or infobox, since the process is integrated. The integration is aimed at direct incorporation into an article, but I figure that part can await getting home to the real computer for the curation stage, with the help of information automatically put into the various picture descriptions. Something should be arranged: a new map app, or new features for mobile Web pages or for the existing mobile apps, or eventually all the above but anyway something that brings it all together in the field. Jim.henderson (talk) 01:18, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Android App Bug - Categories are not transmitted[edit]

  • Hi, I've just used the Android Commons app to upload two images to Commons. Even though I select categories and they have a green check-mark next to them, the Categories are not transmitted to Commons and it gets flagged as Uncategorized. I have to go in and edit the file on Commons to add the categories. Using a Samsung Galaxy Nexus and the Commons app appears to be "Mobile Android 1.0beta8." Brianwc (talk) 10:35, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
Ahh, it appears that I should move this report: One should report bugs regarding the Commons App at the Bugzilla for the Commons App Brianwc (talk) 17:49, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

IOS/Translate AppStore description[edit]

Where can I translate iOS AppStore description for the app ? --Ollii (talk) 13:02, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Crash report messages[edit]

My commons app constantly crashes. I have submitted few crash reports to mobile-feedback-l@lists.wikimedia.org - I am not a member of this list though and have no idea if my crash reports are being read actually. Can someone confirm? --Kozuch (talk) 10:59, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Firefox OS version[edit]

Hi, could someone create a Firefox OS version of the mobile app? Here there are some docs --→ Airon Ĉ 11:56, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Why "Donate"?[edit]

Why "Donate" in the Commons ad? The upload of multimedias on Commons is not a donation, term that implies transferring propriety from the uploader to the receiver. Commons and Wikimedia do not become owner of those images, they are just hosting images in CC or PD.

The blog post about the launch does not even use the word donation, but simply "upload"; I think it should be used on Commons too. --Gambo7 (talk) 09:21, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Well, to donate an image, the uploader needs to own it first, so this might be considered as a subtle hint not to upload stuff you don't own the copyright of. Also, you're kind of donating the right to use your work to the public. But I can see your point. --El Grafo (talk) 09:49, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
I tell this because an user on the italian Commons talk page wrote he was fearing that this might imply that Wikimedia becomes the owner of the images. --Gambo7 (talk) 14:44, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
What did he expect to happen with them? I quibble at the word "donate", but once it's out there under a CC license or PD license, you've given away many of the rights of ownership, and it's better contributors understand that.--Prosfilaes (talk) 21:34, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Bugs[edit]

Android app on my Nexus 4:

  • Sometime the app add a Capital letter in category: see here
  • Sometime the "according to EXIF" data added by the app is broken: see here

Please fix them. Thanks. --Accurimbono (talk) 09:47, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Uploading to Commons from Windows Phone[edit]

See Also: commons:Help desk#Can I contribute using my windows phone?


Now on my seventh Windows Phone, I've come to accept the prerequisite for a comprehensive range of apps; Market share, which Windows Phone lacks. I have previously written to Google, Optus and the ABC expressing disappointment about the lack of enthusiasm for Windows Phone. So I have no delusions that this topic could just be a waste of my time.
As smart phones become "smarter", my PC usage continues to decrease. This has affected my ability to contribute to Wikipedia/Commons. My desire to contribute to commons has increased significantly since the acquisition of my Nokia Lumia 1020 but has been hampered by the time wasted in first connecting my phone to a PC before I can upload. While I accept that a comprehensive range of official Wikimedia apps for Windows Phone is just a pipe dream, I would encourage some thought into a Commons upload tool. It makes no sense that the best camera phone on the market has no Commons upload ability.
Wiki ian 20:43, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Earth 2015[edit]

Is there any chance that the app will be ready to guide you to natural heritage sites for Wiki Loves Earth 2015? --Tobias1984 (talk) 11:57, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Project status[edit]

Hi, what is the current status of the project? Seems to be halted, but why? Is there any plan how to continue? When is a first release planned? --Aschroet (talk) 14:23, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

@Brion VIBBER, Yuvipanda, Notnarayan, Tfinc: Pinging project members. --Tobias1984 (talk) 14:49, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
We discontinued the project last year in favor of putting more work into the Wikipedia app (otherwise we would have had to do a big refactor to clean up the Commons app to keep maintaining it). Plan is to integrate photo upload functionality into the Wikipedia app at some future point, but it's not on the immediate todo list.
If you're interested in helping add those features to the Wikipedia app earlier than they'd get done otherwise, that'd be awesome -- I've filed T88746 in Phabricator to track it. --brion (talk) 21:55, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Bugs[edit]

I would like to upload photos directly from my phone, but the iOS-version of Commons uploader won't work. When I try to select photo from my photos-library, the app crashes. I've tried to install the app again multiple times, but it won't help. I don't need any fancy features, could you just update the app so that it works please... Kallerna (talk) 18:15, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

@Kallerna: This app is no longer being developed and supported by WMF. There is a bug report in the thread above that has more information. --Tobias1984 (talk) 18:23, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Re-born![edit]

The Commons apps are back! Now community-maintained, download them for Android and iOS.

We are looking for volunteers: developers, designers, testers. Please join us and help maintain this extremely useful app, cheers! Syced (talk) 02:24, 8 September 2015 (UTC)