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The team would value any thoughts and/or questions you have about this new tool for Replying to specific comments on talk pages.

Reywas92 (talkcontribs)

I had been using https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Enterprisey/reply-link.js and switched over to try this reply tool but may need to switch back because this automatically indents a reply and doesn't seem to give an option to remove it. In particular, I cannot use this in AFD discussions because they use just a bullet point, while this uses the colon that can't be changed. Enterprisey's program automatically detects whether to indent or bullet and has an option not to do so. Also for AFDs, it would be nice if it could automatically add the comment to the bottom of the page – sometimes the reply to the original post is not where it's supposed to be. This is nice to have the visual editor though. Thanks!

Valereee (talkcontribs)

I'd love to be able to toggle out of the autoindent and at least choose a bullet, too. Neither is bothersome enough for me to stop using the tool (I used Enterprisey's previously too) but those would both be useful additions.

Reply to "Fix auto-indent"
JAn Dudík (talkcontribs)

There is no possibility to check wtach talk page - when i wrote to some newbie, it should be usefult to have possibility to watch this page as if i reply in classic edit mode.

Matěj Suchánek (talkcontribs)

Both reply tool and new discussion tool do have this feature.

JAn Dudík (talkcontribs)

OK, I see now, but I was looking on the left side, as like in classic edit mode.

Nricardo (talkcontribs)

On English Wikivoyage, I have discovered that enabling the HeadAnchor gadget causes some unwanted text to be added to the default Reply edit summary. It adds "h-" at the start and the current datetime at the end.

Matma Rex (talkcontribs)

I can see the same problem here on mediawiki.org (you have to find a non-Flow talk page to test, e.g. my own discussion page). I filed a bug: T281488. I'm not sure yet if it's a problem with the reply tool, or with the gadget.

Reply to "HeadAnchor Interference"
Wqwt (talkcontribs)

I found out typing <math brings up the math mode editor, but this is not obvious and it would be nice to have a simple button.

TheDJ (talkcontribs)

That comes back to a usability issue i guess. To express all the wikitext with buttons, you would end up with a reply window with 50 buttons... compare this to how many people actually write math in a reply and i'm not sure that is worth it...

Wqwt (talkcontribs)

I guess it's true that if you're writing math in the talk pages you probably already know about math tag

Pelagic (talkcontribs)

I guess my initial idea for a hints panel is off the table, but if there was one it would be a great place to list these magic sequences. I didn’t know about <math, but had discovered <ref (not all of them are extension tags, e.g. [[ ).

On the other hand, if you’re going to have a pop-up hints panel, might you just as well have a pop-up Insert menu? The difference is that menu items need to be big enough to be tappable.

If the former (hints text), you could compactly write, “Specials: [[, <ref, <math, ...”

Note that the sequences also work in Mobile VE where the corresponding menus are similarly omitted, but the fact seems not widely known nor well-documented.

Matma Rex (talkcontribs)

FYI, there is a "hints panel" accessible by pressing Ctrl+? (or Ctrl+/, depending on your keyboard layout). It is a bit ironic that you need to know this keyboard shortcut to learn about other keyboard shortcuts ;) In normal VE, you can also access it from the interface by clicking the question mark ("Help") next to the publish button, and then "Keyboard shortcuts".

Reply to "Add math button"
Xover (talkcontribs)

Just a quick note: Like @Piotrus below, I'm missing an easy way to ping the person I'm replying to (this should either be default and automatic, or a simple checkbox "Notify user?" that remembers its state), and a signature with "--" in front like what the 2010 wikitext editor's signature button does (it's not intuitive to have to change the full .sig in the preferences to get this; it should be documented in something FAQ-ish at least).

Reply to "Ping and full signature"
Piotrus (talkcontribs)

This should auto-ping the person being replied to, using en:Template:Rto or such. It could be optional but 'default', like the reply-to scipt on en wiki.

Reply to "Needs to ping"
Pelagic (talkcontribs)
PPelberg (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hmm, what you described sounds unexpected. Can you please give the steps below a quick read to make sure I am accurately understanding what you experienced?

Behavior

1. Visit a talk page

2. Copy italicized text

3. Paste the "italicized text" you copied in "Step 2." into the Reply Tool's visual mode

3½. Type something after the pasted italic text, notice that it's still italic.

4. Un-italicize newly typed text, leaving the pasted text untouched

5. Notice the appears un-italicized

6. Press the Reply button to publish the comment you've been drafting


Actual

7. ❗️Notice the comment is published and the text within it was change to be italicized


Expected

7. ✅ Notice the comment is published and the text within it remains un-italicized


Note: I have not yet been able to reproduce this. See https://w.wiki/3EzZ.

EDIT: I've updated the "Behavior" above to incorporate the edits @Pelagic shared in this comment.

Pelagic (talkcontribs)

3½. Type something after the pasted italic text, notice that it's still italic.

4. Un-italicise the newly typed text, leaving the pasted text untouched.

Other steps are the same. I can’t reproduce it either. Works as expected when I repeat the sequence.

PPelberg (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Thank you for clarifying, @Pelagic. I've updated the comment I posted above with these edits. Let's leave this comment open for now and if/when you encounter the issue again, can you please comment in this thread?

Reply to "Unexpected italics"
Sm8900 (talkcontribs)

thanks for all your efforts on this! --Sm8900 (talk) 14:42, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Ferien (talkcontribs)

Thanks from me too! Has been a much easier way to reply.

Reply to "thanks for this resource"
Valereee (talkcontribs)

I've been kind of out of the loop recently...did the reply tool go away, or have I accidentally done something that made it stop working?

Ferien (talkcontribs)

@Valereee: Definitely didn't go away, I've been using it today. Something is probably going wrong on your side.

Tacsipacsi (talkcontribs)

@Valereee: Did you probably turn it on using the cookie hack/using a user script? If yes, that method is no longer supported, you should turn it on in your preferences instead.

Valereee (talkcontribs)

Ah! Yes, I was using a contraband version lol!

Levivich (talkcontribs)

How do I turn off the reply tools? Turning off the reply tool in my preferences is not actually turning off the reply tool for me (turning off discussion tools in the preferences works fine for me tho).

Matma Rex (talkcontribs)

It looks like you were testing it by manually loading it in common.js, which uses a cookie to save that setting. You can clear that cookie as explained here: Topic:W5dip3pxqfudyutx. We're also working on migrating the cookie hack to normal preferences (T277783), so you might also wait a few days until we resolve that issue and change your preferences then.

Levivich (talkcontribs)

Thank you, @Matma Rex! I waited a few days and I'm not sure if the cookie expired or the phab ticket patch was deployed, but either way, it turned off (without my manually clearing the cookie). Thanks again!