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Latest comment: 6 years ago by Alno in topic Gender

Gender

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Hi,

I translated everything to Hebrew, and there's a pretty serious problem. All the question are in the second person, and in Hebrew this requires grammatical gender, and I had to write everything in masculine. There are various tricks to address this problem when translating user manuals and user interfaces, but using these tricks in this survey would make it too convoluted, and this may spoil the survey's effectiveness.

Is it possible to at least add a comment in the beginning, such as "The questions are written in the masculine gender, but the survey is intended for people of all genders"? Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 08:49, 21 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hi @Amire80! Thank you for helping with the translations. Agree that this is an issue - I think it's totally okay to add a comment in the beginning. Perhaps you could also rephrase the questions in the first person (have the prompts be "I visit Wikipedia" versus "How often do you visit Wikipedia" or "To me, the Wikipedia website feels..." instead of "Does the Wikipedia website feel welcoming?"). I don't think changing it to first person would add significant bias to the responses. OVasileva (WMF) (talk) 14:24, 22 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
First person in Hebrew needs gender, too :)
If I add a comment, where do I add it?
Perhaps you could add this in English as an optional line, and only show it to languages that need it? Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 22:09, 22 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
I've added it to the page, and marked it (via qqq) as optional. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 00:00, 23 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 10:52, 23 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
No need for gender in French (for the given questions as they are). Thanks! AlNo (talk) 15:25, 24 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

Frequency adverbs for welcoming and overwhelming feelings

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Hi!

I don’t understand the frequency adverbs to explain how welcoming and how overwhelming is Wikipedia. Intensity adverbs would be better (at least for French translation).

I mean:

“Wikipedia website feels overwhelming often” → “Wikipedia website feels very overwhelming”

Could you explain why you have chosen these frequency adverbs, in order we adapt our translations, please? Pols12 (talk) 17:28, 21 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hi @Pols12 - we thought about this a little bit while we were writing the questions. We settled on the frequency adverbs because the intensity adverbs seemed to feel a bit awkward in the negative (as in, very overwhelming and a little bit overwhelming makes sense, but the line between say "not very overwhelming" and "not at all overwhelming" felt a bit strange). That said, if you think the French translation works better with the intensity adverbs - go for it. And thank you a ton for helping! OVasileva (WMF) (talk) 14:20, 22 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
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