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Extension that automatically signs comments

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Is there an extension that automatically signs edits on talk and discussion pages? Preferably one that applies to IPs and new accounts. Alumnum (talk) 23:55, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

What? Sokote zaman (talk) 20:00, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Hello. I'm asking for a extension that automatically signs edits made by unregistered or new users on wikis. Is there one? Alumnum (talk) 22:38, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

I don't think such an extension exists. Pretty sure on English Wikipedia unsigned comments are signed by a bot. Garuda3 (talk) 15:54, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

How do I implant such a bot on a wiki I administer? Alumnum (talk) 01:13, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

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Spam

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I'm not sure how to tag posts as Spam when they're using the message boards rather than traditional talk pages, but this person's contributions will need to be taken care of: Special:Contributions/Zeeshan.laskar – Robin Hood  ^(talk) 06:14, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Tag the description page instead.

Anyway, Done; user blocked. Leaderboard (talk) 09:09, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

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Re-sizing images when uploaded to a maximum width/height?

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Is it possible to limit images uploaded to a certain pixel size,

maxWidth

MaxHeight

I'd like any size to be uploaded and then scaled down to the maximum dimensioned set.

Does anything like this exist? Jamiehutber (talk) 16:39, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Please ask on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 01:52, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

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Dont use this Wiki!!! Its the biggest Trash ever seen!!!

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I have the exercice to update the wiki in oure company. No big problem to deal with right?

Sure not but mediawiki thinks diffrent. If you update it it compleatly breaks. After 2 weeks it is running again like before but there are still a few thinks missing.

The whole help Page from Mediawiki helped me with nothing. I never had that much trubbel by installing or update an web software like this.

The source code is ok but not so good that it is very difficult to run into an error! 212.144.247.90 (talk) 07:57, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

If you have specific issues (and are interested in a constructive and respectful dialog), feel free to ask for help on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:MediaWiki clearly says "This page is only for discussion of MediaWiki.org's main page." AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 08:52, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

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Re-design this front page to align with the design style guide?

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Maybe upgrade the design a bit? For a start, replace the images and icons, and also change the download button. Iniquity (talk) 19:33, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Compare what with what? Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 20:27, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

https://design.wikimedia.org/style-guide/resources/WikimediaUI-components_overview.svg

https://design.wikimedia.org/style-guide/visual-style_icons.html Iniquity (talk) 22:39, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

I now understand you even less, I think.

You've linked to the design style guide, for which OOUI is the reference implementation.

(And none of this is so broadly applicable that it should be on the talk page of the main page of this wiki – maybe Talk:Design would be more focussed and get attention from the right people?) Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 22:58, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Are you sure that in order to change the design of the main page I need to go there? Iniquity (talk) 23:39, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Oh. You're talking about changing the design of the MediaWiki.org front page to align the in-content copy/layout with the style guide for the MediaWiki chrome? Now I understand. Will re-title the thread so other people aren't confused. Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 00:28, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I'm talking about this. I'm sorry for the confusion :) Iniquity (talk) 00:31, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

What exactly to "replace the images and icons" with? Could you point to a relevant section in the style guide, please? AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 00:46, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

@Iniquity I looked at the icons and I don't see any icon related to "administration" or "developers" or such. Note that these icons have a meaning. For examples, the icon that displays a cog (which stands for preferences) should not be used in a context that does not mean preferences. I'm all in for better icons. Please propose specific ones if you are aware of specific ones. AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 16:52, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

About small icons:

<figure-inline></figure-inline> -> <figure-inline></figure-inline>

<figure-inline></figure-inline> -> <figure-inline></figure-inline>

<figure-inline></figure-inline> -> <figure-inline></figure-inline>

https://design.wikimedia.org/style-guide/visual-style_icons.html - Visual style.

About big icons:

<figure-inline></figure-inline><figure-inline></figure-inline><figure-inline></figure-inline>

All three icons have three different styles now. These icons fall under this section. Yes, I see that some images are difficult to replace. Maybe redraw them? Or we can use photos from the hackathon instead of icons. But as an option, these icons are less suitable in style or The Noun Project. Iniquity (talk) 17:34, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

I like this design variant - New_Developers#Choose_a_software_project. Iniquity (talk) 17:42, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, but there are no icons. AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 18:34, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Project logo = Icons Iniquity (talk) 19:59, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

@Iniquity: My question was what do project logos have to do with the users / developers / administrators big icons on the mediawiki.org frontpage? AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 20:06, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

In that example, I only talked about block design. Iniquity (talk) 20:26, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

@IniquityWhich "photos from the hackathon" would you use "instead of icons"? And how? Can you please be more specific? AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 20:29, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Just for example - http://prntscr.com/mytwsu Iniquity (talk) 20:41, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

I'm going to take the icons into account while working on phab:T653 / MediaWiki/Homepage improvements 2018, but I'm not a fan of having photos (a bit noisy). AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 02:00, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Wow, I haven't known about these pages. :) Thank you for working on it. Iniquity (talk) 07:05, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

@Iniquity: See MediaWiki/Homepage improvements 2018#Layout and layout implementation for the proposal and let's close this thread here? AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 23:48, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Yes thank you :) Let's close this. Iniquity (talk) 16:34, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

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Mediawiki display all Matching Categories in list

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I am using DynamicPageList witho much success.

However now I have a need to list all categories as links grouped together.

Take the following categories with the code:

40k warhammer space marines eldar`

<DynamicPageList> 
category = 40k
category = space marine
category = eldar
mode = unordered
order=descending
namespace=category
</DynamicPageList>

From the 4 categories, only space marines and eldar contain the 40k category.

So I would like the following list to be output from the code above:

• space marines
• eldar Jamiehutber (talk) 17:42, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Read "This page is only for discussion of MediaWiki.org's main page." written on this very page. AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 21:34, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

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Box order

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I like the different "Box per audience". I would like to suggest a very small change, based on page views.

Download seems to be the most popular page: https://tools.wmflabs.org/topviews/?project=mediawiki.org&platform=all-access&date=last-month&excludes= (probably not the most useful link for the community that stays around, but I can certainly see a lot of people hitting download and never coming back).

I would like to suggest, for the languages that are left-to-right, to position the "Set up and run MediaWiki" on the left (and the opposite place on the right-to-left languages), so people can find it easier. Compare to sites such as https://www.drupal.org/ or https://wordpress.org/ where they have a distinctive "Get" button. I don't think a button is necessary, but putting it on the most noticeable place may help.

People that want to participate on the community, even if this wiki is mostly for them, they will stay for longer. But I think this is a classical case of a "Z" scanning pattern, where the Logo, then the photo, then the left box catches your attention first. Another option is to give the Download link more contrast, so it is at the end of the Z.

Just an opinion. JCrespo (WMF) (talk) 07:37, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

@JCrespo (WMF) Like this ? Tomybrz Bip Bip 08:24, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

What do you think @AKlapper (WMF) ? :) Tomybrz Bip Bip 15:24, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes, either that or keeping it like now and adding a button Button/Bold/anything else for a stronger "call to action", both would be ok for me, but I would suggest to wait for feedback from others. JCrespo (WMF) (talk) 20:28, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Probably makes sense given the access statistics (though I always wonder how much lamp post fallacy [1] we fall into comparing the pageviews to other pages if people did not succeed finding those other pages that they wanted to find). Please feel free to go ahead. :) AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 20:37, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Well i don't want to break the main page, if someone can make the edit. Thanks Tomybrz Bip Bip 19:50, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

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Image update

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I purpose to update the group image on the main page with the last version, File:Wikimedia_Hackathon_Barcelona_2018_-_group_photo.jpg. Framawiki (talk) 19:09, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Feel free to do so if nobody has reasons to be against it, I'd say. :) AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 20:31, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I'm not a sysop thus can't edit this page :) Framawiki (talk) 20:09, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Done! –Quiddity (talk) 09:17, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

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Latest Stable Builds Conveniently on the Main Page

Is there a good convincing reason as to why the latest stable builds are no longer listed on mediawiki wiki's main page? Lyrixn (talk) 05:48, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Why is it important to you to see the specific numbers of the latest stable builds on the main page? AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 19:46, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

It was both convenient to download and track the latest stable and LTS builds. By the way I'm talking about this box: https://i.imgur.com/7WNmVzY.png that was still there not long ago (a few months ago at most). Lyrixn (talk) 05:47, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

If you want to download and track latest builds, feel free to bookmark Download.

I see no reason for such information to waste space on the front page. See "If people want to download MediaWiki they should go to the Download page" on MediaWiki/Homepage improvements 2018. AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 07:50, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Who decides what wastes space on the main page and what doesn't? Was there a discussion where the majority agreed that the box that's been there for years is no longer relevant? All I see on the project you linked that it was decided (probably by you) that the box should be removed and that's that. The discussion page on that same project has little to no reference or actual discussion on this topic.

I quote from the source you linked: "I doubt anyone informs themselves about a need for an upgrade of their installation by visiting the front page and then manually comparing with their version."

"I doubt" - you doubt so that automatically means that no one does that. Well I did exactly that and I'm more than confident that there were a lot of people who did exactly that as well, but obviously they aren't being so vocal about it. For most of the people this wiki is a resource for the software. Lyrixn (talk) 08:37, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

@Lyrixn: Sure there was. See the three "Announcements / call for comments" sections on MediaWiki/Homepage improvements 2018 how you could have gotten aware. AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 09:00, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

I do see you being the only participant in these, unless I'm missing something. Lyrixn (talk) 09:17, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

If that was true (it is not), what would be the problem with that? Nobody can force anyone to take part in discussions...

The discussions can be found in Talk:MediaWiki/Homepage improvements 2018 and Talk:MediaWiki/Homepage improvements 2018/Proposal as linked from the three "call for comments" sections that I already linked in my previous comment. Anyone interested was welcome to provide input. AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 09:19, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

I'm not sure I totally understand but if I do, then you're asking for what is in the "News" card in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki? I do see latest stable builds/releases of MW on the "News" card, which if you click on "more news", you'll be taken to: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/News.

Does that help? Thanks! X-Savitar (talk) 06:21, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

I mean the "current version" box. https://web.archive.org/web/20190101022620/https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki Lyrixn (talk) 05:43, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

I have the following table on my corp wiki - use the source editor to actually read it:

{{#get_web_data:url=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&format=json

|format=JSON

|data=wp_servername=servername,wp_generator=generator

|cache seconds=21600}}</code> {{#get_web_data:url=https://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&format=json

|format=JSON

|data=mw_servername=servername,mw_generator=generator

|cache seconds=21600}}

{| style="width:100%; background:#f9f9f9; margin:1.2em 0 6px 0; border:1.5px solid #000; text-align: center;"

|{{#external_value:mw_servername}}: {{#external_value:mw_generator}}

|{{#external_value:wp_servername}}: {{#external_value:wp_generator}}

|www.mediawiki.org: 1.44.0-wmf.25 (964d7fd)

|}

It might come in handy. Gerdesj (talk) 01:19, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Image update (again)

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Can an admin update the home page picture with the photo taken yesterday? File:Wikimedia_Hackathon_Prague_2019_-_Group_Photo_-_CLK.png. Thanks. Framawiki (talk) 16:36, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

We should probably get it as a JPEG first. Have pinged Chris. Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 16:55, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Done https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_page&diff=3242684&oldid=3227773 BDavis (WMF) (talk) 20:58, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

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Image update

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Do not get me wrong, but the new image has issues. It is too dark, the people merge somehow with the background making it appear like an undifferentiated mass. Probably the top section needs to be cropped away and more brightness or so may help too. [[kgh]] (talk) 15:01, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

I took a shot at making it a bit better: File:Wikimedia Hackathon Prague 2019 - 2019-05-18 - Group Picture - cropped.jpg. I cropped it down to the group of people and ran it through a filter to normalize the brightness. BDavis (WMF) (talk) 00:57, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Great, I personally believe this is much much better than the original version. Thanks a lot for working on this! [[kgh]] (talk) 06:11, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

I suggest maybe using the other photo, the one where people aren't holding their hands in the air and thus obscuring many people's faces behind them. If easy, could you do the same brightening magic to File:Wikimedia_Hackathon_Prague_2019_-_Group_Photo_-_CLK.png? Thank you! Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 16:38, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Took a shot -- https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_page&diff=3249645&oldid=3247158 -- the thumbnail is not as pretty as I would like, so feel free to find people to try to do some more retouching. BDavis (WMF) (talk) 16:11, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

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Please hide the header for translations

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Now that the header cannot longer be translated, I used this to make the main page in German somewhat sane (also applies to all other languages), the header needs to be hidden via CSS. Currently the header e.g. says "Template:Main page/de" and I believe we cannot be serious about this. [[kgh]] (talk) 19:59, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Well i tried something with Special:Diff/3254457. Tomybrz Bip Bip 20:15, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

This is much better. Not ideal but as good as before the switch to the new homepage layout and stuff. Thanks a lot. [[kgh]] (talk) 05:38, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

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Home to Persian translation

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I want to translate the Wikimedia home page into Persian. How should I do this? Mobin2008 (talk) 12:06, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Do the links on Project:Language policy help? AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 14:51, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

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webdesigning

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how to learn website designing Nabothug (talk) 06:04, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

This question has nothing to do with MediaWiki so it is off-topic here. See for example https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Web_design Malyacko (talk) 06:32, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

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Download Button on Home page

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If we have a good big download button on the home page to download mediawiki then that will be better. The link is OK. But If we can have a button then it is great. Ranjithsiji (talk) 02:01, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

@Ranjithsiji: No I disagree. Most people do not come for "downloading". No problem is solved if you click a big download button and then cannot find what to do with that downloaded file. AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 07:51, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

@AKlapper (WMF) I think the primary subject of this website is mediawiki. That is why I suggested this. I completely agree with you that most people may not here for downloading. But I think that the main subject of this website is to popularize or solve problems related to mediawiki. So in the first point download must be notable. One more the download button must not start the download instantly instead redirect it to the download and install instructions page. Ranjithsiji (talk) 13:54, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

I disagree. See also https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AMediaWiki/Homepage%20improvements%202018/Proposal#c-AKlapper_%28WMF%29-2019-03-21T20%3A54%3A00.000Z-Yaron_Koren-2019-03-20T18%3A12%3A00.000Z AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 18:03, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

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Other languages also at the top

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Somebody added the "Other languages" section to show also at the top of translated pages. Now it shows at the top and the bottom. I think it should be removed from the top since it is duplicated content and not very good for people who access via mobile devices. [[kgh]] (talk) 16:56, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Are you sure? Looks to me other languages section is only available at the bottom of the main page. Ainz Ooal Gown (talk) 17:00, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

I am talking about the translated pages. And yes, it is also inconsistent to the source page, i.e. English Main Page. [[kgh]] (talk) 17:03, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

I think that was inserted by @DannyS712; I reverted that for now in https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AMain_page&type=revision&diff=3453545&oldid=3392880 AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 17:22, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for catching that DannyS712 (talk) 17:27, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

@Kghbln: I am pretty sure that some other pages need to be fixed. Languages list appearing on both footer and header in some other translated versions of the page (eg. Template:Main_page/ja and Template:Main_page/bn). Ainz Ooal Gown (talk) 18:12, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

done DannyS712 (talk) 18:14, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

I trust that all translated versions of the main page have been fixed? If so, please close this topic. Ainz Ooal Gown (talk) 18:18, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

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Link to version of the software

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@Shirayuki - Thank you for all your work on this page. Could a link to the current stable version of the software, currently MediaWiki 1.33, be re-added to the page? Thank you! PhotographerTom (talk) 18:28, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi, you can click on the first link in the first box ("Download"). I think the current situation makes sense. AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 18:43, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

What about adding a link to Release notes, either on the Main page or on the Download page? PhotographerTom (talk) 15:51, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

There already is a link to Release notes, on the Download page. AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 18:49, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

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personal curiosity for jmol

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I was wondering if in the wikipedia pages related to chemistry, talking about orbitals, molecules and c ... we could add the 3D model of the subject of the page. I refer to integrating the jmol file / script into wikipedia pages to freely display a molecule, an orbital and so on in 3 dimensions. I think that such an addition could contribute positively in some cases to the encyclopedia. -⁓⁓⁓⁓ Griot Matteo (talk) 19:12, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi, see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T45616 and https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T18491 AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 19:41, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

hello, thank you for your reply.

from what I could read the project was no longer carried out, I hoped that Wikipedia had managed to implement it and make it available for all its pages ... Griot Matteo (talk) 11:07, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

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How and where to request activation for WMF projects of the Jmol extension?

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sorry, for practicality I created a new topic.

as the title suggests, much clearer than before, I would be interested in understanding how and where to request activation of the Jmol extension, existing on mediawiki, for wikipedia pages. Griot Matteo (talk) 21:19, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

(For context: Talk:MediaWiki/2019#h-personal_curiosity_for_jmol-2019-11-16T19:12:00.000Z). See the open dependency tasks to fix in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T45616 and/or previous discussion in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T18491. See How to become a MediaWiki hacker if you would like to work on code. See Bug management/Development prioritization for general information. AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 21:37, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

once again, I'm sorry, unfortunately I'm new to the whole platform with regards to these things.

If I didn't understand it I would have to ask in the already opened tasks to see if you can already integrate the 3D visualization of jmol in the wikipedia pages, right?

I ask only because when I looked at mediawiki I found that the Jmol extension already exists (Extension:Jmol).

Sorry for all these questions but you are the only one available to explain things for a moment and give me useful links. Griot Matteo (talk) 08:53, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

There is no need to ask in opened tasks, as they are "open" (and not "resolved") for a reason: They are not resolved so you cannot already integrate the 3D visualization of jmol in Wikipedia pages. :)

I was not aware of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Jmol , thanks for sharing that! See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Review_queue for the steps required if you would like to see that Jmol extension available on Wikimedia websites such as Wikipedia. AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 11:14, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

I readen the page Review queue but I didn't found in any part of this how I can ask for see that Jmol extension avaiable on Wikipedia.

If I'm not mistaken, only the creator has the right to make those steps for the request.

what should I do then?

Thanks in advance Griot Matteo (talk) 14:01, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

You could contacts the authors / maintainers of that extension. AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 15:50, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you so much! Griot Matteo (talk) 16:07, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

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Wording and style suggestions for frontpage

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I have some suggestions of minor changes to the frontpage:

https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AJCrespo_%28WMF%29%2Fmain_page&type=revision&diff=3550799&oldid=3550760

Mine are not that great, and very open to discussion, but I think it improves a bit the searching of information (what I think is important can be certainly argued against, and I may be showing my biases, despite trying to think on "new users first"). As a problem I had, I tried to look for "how to start coding?" link and was unable to find it, despite knowing it was here.

CC @AKlapper (WMF). JCrespo (WMF) (talk) 15:27, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

@JCrespo (WMF): Thanks! I can offer my feedback but note that I don't see myself as some gatekeeper or maintainer here.

I agree with nearly all changes, except for the last one where I'm not sure if "How to start contributing to Wikimedia" is more guiding: My main intention might not be to "contribute" something, but to get hands on some code and find a project for that. ("Contribute" always felt vague to me as it can mean so many things - contribute food? thoughts? money? code?) AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 16:22, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

(Oh wait, I realize that maybe editing that page requires some special permissions maybe?) AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 23:12, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

> requires some special permissions maybe

Indeed it does, I cannot edit it directly.

> Choose a software project to hack on

That is confusing to me. I agree my suggestion is not ok either. I would be happy to have a better 3 option. Something in the vein of "Start coding <something>" or something that doesn't include "hack" (no problem for me with it, but I think its confusing for newcomers) and that is not "choose", something more explicit in a couple of words. JCrespo (WMF) (talk) 14:11, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

@JCrespo (WMF) "Start working on the code of a project", maybe? (I don't dare currently to make the other edits because as usual, I don't understand all that <translate> markup, sigh.) AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 16:20, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

"Start coding for a Wikimedia project"? (shorter) JCrespo (WMF) (talk) 16:49, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

I've added the bolding and the link-label change.

However changing the 3 "Learn ..." links is much more complicated, because currently the existing translations are embedded within link-syntax, hence if we did something like this, then the previously translated text would end up without any links until a translator noticed the problem (in each language). [IIUC]. -- It's especially problematic here because the system doesn't seem to be rendering the pink-background color for outdated sections, as it's meant to. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 18:50, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your help, Quiddity! (And JCrespo for the improvements!) AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 22:04, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I am happy as it is now! Thanks both! JCrespo (WMF) (talk) 10:11, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

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