Talk:Groups/Promotion

Is "Marketing" the best name?

Even if "Marketing" is a correct term, maybe for the MediaWiki / Wikimedia contexts "Promotion" is more friendly and inclusive. Opinions? I personally don't mind. Whatever works best. Qgil (talk) 21:49, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

-1 for Marketing - was confusing to me in this context. +1 for 'Outreach', which is what I usually hear in this context. Plus I *think* marketing has somewhat a negative connotation in some geek circles, so might want to avoid that :) (It does for me!) Yuvipanda (talk) 21:19, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

I like "Promotion", and I think "Outreach" is a little too broad. Sharihareswara (WMF) (talk) 18:13, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Ok, let's go for MediaWiki Group Promotion then!

Thank you for the feedback. And thank you to James Alexander for raising the point in the first place. Qgil (talk) 18:39, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

UniversalEditButton

I like promotion, but don't care all that much. What I am super interested in, is an idea to extend [Wikipedia:Universal Edit Button UniversalEditButton.org] by adding a link to community support. We discussed it at the [[w:RecentChangesCamp|RecentChangesCamp] ]in Canberra, Australia last year. Will look for notes and am up for questions if there is any interest. While RecentChangesCamp is about wiki in general, MediaWiki is certainly a large push in the wiki world :-). Best, MarkDilley (talk) 19:13, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Looking forward to have further information. I couldn't understand what you mean by "... extend UniversalEditButton.org by adding a link to community support".

In the meantime... do you want to sign up this Marketing (or whatever) group proposal, helping it to its formal creation?  :) Qgil (talk) 19:40, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

I would be interested, please loop me in as appropriate. Re: UniversalEditButton, are you using the extension? Do you have familiarity with what it does, I know, pretty simple. John Vandenberg and I were talking about adding a drop down menu for editing, one that might include edit sections and a community link. Would be interested in skyping with you to chat about it. Do you work with Steven Walling? Best, MarkDilley (talk) 19:45, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

About WikiPlanet

Hi Mark, you had added to the proposal page:

• Keeping the WikiPlanet up-to-date

I have removed this from the list while we agree here on the best approach. The scope of this MediaWiki group is the MediaWiki community and Wikimedia tech. We can extend to other areas, but still be inside tech / development. Most of the content of that planet is about wiki use, wiki editing and other areas that, in our context, Wikimedia / Wikipedia covers.

Assigning the maintenance t ourselves looks like too far from our core scope. Our charter proposed is already wider than I'd wish, but we are still keeping our toes within the mediawiki.org context and immediate surroundings. Qgil (talk) 19:54, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Couple ideas here. If the interest is to promote MediaWiki et all - then this is not to far off the core scope (do you have a link?) - Maintaining a single place for wiki / MediaWiki related information is a highly desirable action, IMO. It doesn't take long, just regular maintenance - and the benefits are numerous. Best, MarkDilley 19:48, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

I just think it makes sense that a MediaWiki Group Promotion focuses on promoting MediaWiki and leaves aside anything else. As said, our charter is already really wide, especially when consider the amount of people actually involved in the group and its tasks.  :) Qgil (talk) 19:16, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Promotion landing page

I'm increasingly missing a landing page for all things Promotion. Maybe redirecting from/to Promote MediaWiki. The scope would be the usual suspects: all MediaWiki and Wikimedia tech activities. A page like that should have a nice look and feel as well, but I will be happy if we get the pure content right as a first step.

Thoughts? Qgil (talk) 00:39, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

A landing page would be great. I like Promote MediaWiki as it is clearest. Here is my idea for UEB. Best, MarkDilley 19:51, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Group approved

Hi guys,

I am happy to let you know that this group has been approved by the Affiliations Committee, see: [1].

Please do get in touch, if we can be of any help to you as you begin your activities.

Best regards, Bdamokos (talk) 12:06, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Qgil (talk) 17:23, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Naming our developer events

Proposal: naming all our developer events lasting one day or more:

MediaWiki Hackathon City

e.g. MediaWiki Hackathon Amsterdam, to mention an event currently showing a branding problem: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Amsterdam_Hackathon_2013

• In places where "Hackathon" is a problematic word, DevCamp could be used instead.
• If an event is all about a piece of software then it could be named after it e.g. Wikipedia Mobile Hackfest.

Localizations and other exceptions to be considered as requested.

PS: Discussion started at wikitech-l, moved here. Qgil (talk) 00:14, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

I really am fine with inconsistency (and yes, I mean inconsistency). But if new event-runners want guidance, this guidance seems fine, as guidance that they should feel free to ignore, on their own, without having to request exceptions. Gatekeeping bad. :-) Sharihareswara (WMF) (talk) 23:16, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Mmm ok.  :) Qgil (talk) 16:38, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Please check the proposal for Amsterdam Hackathon name and logo. Your feedback is welcome in that thread. Qgil (talk) 05:43, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Slides: How to hack on Wikipedia

How to hack on Wikipedia

I'm drafting my slides for FOSDEM. Feedback welcome! The idea is to have a presentation reusable that is, in practice, an introduction on How to contribute. See also the black icons.  :) Qgil (talk) 07:24, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Promotion highlights

Let's use this thread to point to other threads related with Promotion activities where our participation is welcome / needed. No discussions in this thread, please. Qgil (talk) 14:03, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Social media co-maintainers needed. Qgil (talk) 14:04, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Links to our social media handlers in mediawiki.org homepage. Qgil (talk) 14:05, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Proposals for MediaWiki Groups logos. Qgil (talk) 06:31, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

List of projects using the MediaWiki API?

Is it worth starting a list of standalone projects using the MediaWiki API? Like Apps. We want to promote and improve our API so devellopers can use it for their projects using / remixing / contributing Wikimedia data. Having a list of existing projects would be useful, even if it starts as a showcase of the evident cases. Qgil (talk) 10:05, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Proposed IRC meeting on 21 February 2013

There was discussion over the weekend on IRC of having a meeting of folks interested in this group on 21 February 2013. Are there times that would work best for folks? Varnent (talk)^(COI) 08:44, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I just got back from holidays. Can we find a date for next week, so we have more time to get quorum? We can chase the people that signed up one by one.  :) Qgil (talk) 22:35, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

An icon for Promotion related pages

We are introducing icons to illustrate different types of activities at mediawiki.org. There is a proposal for a Promotion icon at Project_talk:Visual_identity#Promotion_icon. Please discuss there. Qgil (talk) 15:39, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Help with videos

We produce a fairly good amount of videos, mainly through Google Hangouts, also in our events. The possibilities of using those videos for promotion are basically untapped. Even being a regular member of this community it is not easy to find them where you would expect them.

It takes some work:

• Videos in YouTube must be published in Commons. Some basic post-production would be a big plus.
• They should be listed in a single location acting as index.
• They should be also published in the appropriate page(s) related to that topic.

For instance, yesterday we had a meetup in SF and now we have this YouTube video: Wikimedia & wikiHow mobile updates. They are pretty interesting, probably more as separate videos. I'm supposed to work on them but I ave many other things in the pipeline right now... Qgil (talk) 16:23, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

How to attract and keep contributors

I have just started working in two proposals to attract and keep technical contributors:

• Contribution path to reach out to new contributors.
• Contributors to keep track of contributors and engage them in new tasks.

Both projects are complex and have a potential of introducing big changes in our community. I'm focusing on defining the proposals to a level where a rough production budget can be estimated, in order to consider the possibility of subcontracting the implementation. Your early feedback and help is welcome. Qgil (talk) 15:19, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

The proposals evolved significantly after many discussion and we are here now: Project:New contributors. Your feedback and help is welcome.

In fact there I'm suggesting that we should focus our promotion efforts to English Wikipedia first in order to convert their tech readers in tech contributors. Qgil (talk) 18:20, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Renewed?

«We have got official recognition from the Affiliations Committee for a first period of one year»: was the group renewed? Nemo 09:13, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

The group hasn't been active as a group. I don't have a better solution at hand... Qgil (talk) 10:29, 28 August 2014 (UTC)