Talk:Edit Review Improvements/New filters for edit review/2018/02

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The filters are great, but I have a couple of suggestions

The filters are very useful. I particularly like the highlighting feature, however it would be nice to either have more color options, or the option to choose foreground and background colors. It would also be nice to be able to customize the colors.

One issue that I did notice using Chrome on MacOS (all current), is that changing the highlight color closes the filter dialog. That is obviously undesirable behavior. MrX (talk) 20:20, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Work on this seems to have ended, and even if it didn't it is doubtful that they'll add more colors or even make it possible to customize them due to accessibility and complexity concerns. It is possible for individual users to customize colors using CSS:

.mw-rcfilters-highlight-color-c1 {
    background-color:blue !important;
}
.mw-rcfilters-highlight-color-c2 {
    background-color:pink !important;
}
.mw-rcfilters-highlight-color-c3 {
    background-color:brown !important;
}
.mw-rcfilters-highlight-color-c4 {
    background-color:purple !important;
}

197.218.90.47 (talk) 20:39, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your message. It did occur to me that I could customize the colors in CSS, but it would still leave only four color options (plus the default anchor color). I'm not really expecting the developers to make this change, but perhaps it will be taken into consideration for future development. MrX (talk) 22:00, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback, @MrX!

> One issue that I did notice using Chrome on MacOS (all current), is that changing the highlight color closes the filter dialog. That is obviously undesirable behavior.

It is. Do you have that issue when you use this link (it uses safemode, to disable possible conflicting scripts)?

Concerning having more colors than the 5 ones, that request is made time to time. On which cases do you need more colors?

We are declining it for two reasons:

• highlight is supposed to be used with some active filters. While filters narrow results, highlight is set to emphase just a few elements. I've noticed that people requesting more colors usually don't use the filters to narrow down results.
• colors used are accessible, so as their combinations. Add more colors would require a big effort to check all combinations. Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 14:26, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply @Trizek (WMF). The safemode link exhibits the same dialog-closing behavior.

I understand your point about combining filters with highlighting. I guess I'm trying to get as much information from a default filter set so that I don't have to remember to change filter sets.

One more thing I would like to give feedback about is the amount of space that is taken up by the filter widget when several filters and highlights are selected. It would be extremely helpful if the widget could be collapsed and remain in that state until clicked. MrX (talk) 16:44, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Concerning the menu issue, do you have it on a different browser?

Concerning the sets of filters, have you tried the bookmarking options? They allow you to switch very easily between filters sets you define.

Thank you for your feedback concerning the space. If the selected filters are only taking one lines height on your screen, we have measured that they take less space than the previous design. How ever, a more compact mode has been considered for watchlists. IT may indeed be interesting for recent changes as well. Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 17:10, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Yes, same problem on Firefox 57.0 and Safari 11.0.2.

No I have not tried the bookmarking options, but I will have a look.

My filters take three lines on my screen (4 filters and 14 highlights). That leaves about 1/3 of the screen height for the watchlist itself. I have modified my CSS to make the widget much smaller, but it's still distracting. MrX (talk) 17:47, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

I can reproduce the issue you have. How ever, I don't remember if that's a feature or a bug. :) I've reported it for investigation and get a reply.

> My filters take three lines on my screen (4 filters and 14 highlights).

That's indeed taking a lot of space. Please tell me if you manage to refine the filters you use with bookmarks.

I use those bookmarks on my volunteer capacity for specific tasks I don't do at the same time (finding last edits made by newcomers but not patrolled and find problematic but fixable edits). I'm really more efficient that way. I let global overview of recent changes to people using specific software (like Huggle). Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 18:24, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

I really liked the new filters JogiAsad (talk) 22:43, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

bug with Navigation Popups when using Chrome

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T187044

If I'm hovering over a link in my watchlist using Navigation Popups at the moment the live update happens, the popups window does not disappear once I move off the link. I have to reload the page to fix the problem. I have found that oddly, this is a problem in Chrome but not in IE. Chris Troutman (talk) 02:28, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

I've tried with Chromium (the closest I have) and I have a persistant pop-up as well. But I manage to have it disappearing when I hover another link. When I use Firefox, the pop-ups overlap each other when I hover a new link, but they disappear when I move my cursor.

They are anyway conflicting bugs to fix. I've reported it. Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 10:20, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Any way to show the last edits by the same user, kind of rollback way?

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T188638

Hello, Is there way to show the aggregate of the edits by the same user when using the tool? Or at least when clicking on the "diff" link? This would be useful when using tools such as TW. RedUser (talk) 11:11, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Hello and thank you for your feedback!

The best is to click on the "contribs" link attached to the username.

A way to filter by user has been considered but the implementation is not scheduled yet.

Which tool "TW" is? Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 10:30, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

WP:Twinkle, when you rv someone with it, it rv all the last contributions by the user. Useful 99,9% of the time, but sometimes it catches an good edit. RedUser (talk) 01:38, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Reverting undoes all last edits made by the user on a given page That's the difference with "undo", which will undo only the last entry.

That feature is not Twinkle specific. It is a powerful tool that should be used with caution. On some wikis, it is available by sysops only, or for users who have a certain experience, or through some specific tools. Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 10:47, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I know that. That's why I asked for a way to check everything together. RedUser (talk) 14:50, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

On Twinkle or using recent changes with the filters? I can help for the latter, not the first one. Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 14:55, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

On recent changes, which brought us back to my first question after all . RedUser (talk) 02:14, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

So to be sure, your goal would be to have a diff link with all last edits from a given user on a give page? That's an interesting idea! Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 17:19, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, exactly that. RedUser (talk) 19:19, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

I've just filled T188638 with your idea. Can you review it?

(And sorry for the late reply - crazy weeks!) Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 16:55, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

1 is the oldest and 6 the newest edit right? Then yes, like that. RedUser (talk) 01:52, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Yes, 1 is the oldest and 6 the newest edit. I've edited the description to clarify. Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 09:42, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

How do you save modifications to a filter set?

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T177409

There does not seem to be a mechanism for saving changes to a filter set. For example, if I change the settings for the default filter, I would intuitively assume that they would be auto saved once the filter dialog closes. That does not seem to be the case. Also, when attempting to save the filter by clicking on the ribbon icon, there is no drop down showing the list of previously save filters. If I attempt to give it the same name as my default filter, it creates a new filter set with the same name. Confusion and frustration ensue.

The help documentation does not address this at all. MrX (talk) 14:40, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

From the documentation :

It is possible to rename a saved set by clicking on the "..." menu in the Saved filters menu, and then on Rename.

It is possible to delete a saved set by clicking on the "..." menu in the Saved filters menu, and then on Remove.

To edit a saved set of filters, click on Saved filters and then:

1. Activate this set
2. Delete this saved set
3. Edit the active filters
4. Save the defined set

I understand your frustration. Have a way to edit a bookmarked set of filters has been requested by a user and I've added your request to the matching ticket. However, work on the filters is not on the schedule, so don't expect much changes on this except if a volunteer developer takes care of it. Sorry about that. Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 14:53, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Payment

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Hi everyone! I'm a newbie here. I just want to ask if there's a payment in every edit that I will do? Genefe (talk) 09:47, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

No Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 10:35, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

No Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 13:13, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Show content of Template:Votings by default

At Wikipedia the new look of Special:RecentChanges involves hiding the content of Template:Votings unless the user presses a button next to the words 'Other reviewer tools'. I would like to have this information visible by default, it has essential project information that the project considers useful for everyone not only for reviewers! How do I achieve this for me personally, and how do I achieve this for everyone reading the wiki? --~ Gryllida 11:34, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

Can use local CSS on-wiki such as MediaWiki:Common.css.

Russian Wikipedia. No. I don't know, will find out. Gryllida 19:57, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Please keep me posted! :) Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 11:33, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

How to return to "old" form?

How Can I hide '''my''' edits. And, I can't orientize myself in new instrument, how can I return to "old" form? Thx. Kusurija (talk) 14:35, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

1. Type "Změny ostatních" and click.
2. Nastavení → Poslední změny → Skrýt vylepšenou verzi posledních změn. Matěj Suchánek (talk) 16:42, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Kusurija. Yes, it's easy to hide your own edits. Just go to the "Contribution authorship" filter section and select the "Changes by others" filter. Leave "Changes by you" unchecked.

What you may notice here is that the New Filters reverse the logic of the old system. In the past, you selected things you wanted to exclude or "hide". In the New Filters, you select the things you want to include (e.g., in your case, "changes by others"). While this logic is a change, it's standard on common commercial sites like Amazon or Zappos, where users refine search results by selecting the characteristics they want to include in their purchase. If you give it a try, I think you'll get used to it pretty quickly.

If you don't, you can opt out of the New Filters by going to Preferences>Recent Changes and selecting "Hide the improved version of Recent Changes." Be warned, however: you'll lose access to all the new filters and other features that were added in the New Filters for Edit Review upgrades. Cheers! JMatazzoni (WMF) (talk) 16:50, 28 February 2018 (UTC)