Talk:Citoid

New York Times citations are no longer filled out

In case anyone else is noticing this issue, I've filed a bug report for it. Ed ^{[talk] [en:majestic titan]} 04:45, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Visual editor - newspapers.com citations

When you insert a citation automatically from newspapers.com, it adds it as a "cite web" and puts the date, the page number, the newspaper and the website in the title field (and doesn't insert the title at all!), meaning that either you have to insert the citation manually (amending the citation is a nuisance) or switch to source editing to fix the citation.

Example 1: https://www.newspapers.com/image/960939224/ ("Apr 15, 2011, page 21 - News and Record at Newspapers.com". Newspapers.com. Retrieved 2025-06-15.)

Example 2: https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/18240005/ ("Blue Island Sun-Standard from Blue Island, Illinois". Newspapers.com. 1977-05-12. Retrieved 2025-06-15.) where the date ends up in the date field but this is rare.

I tried zbib.org and it produces similar results.

Option 1: Best case scenario, I'd like to see the entire citation picked up correctly, including the "title" and, if possible, "access level" and "location of publication".

Option 2: However, it would still be a win if the citation could at least be labelled "cite news" instead of "cite web", which would allow it to be edited without switching to source editing.

Thanks Mmemaigret (talk) 06:25, 20 September 2025 (UTC)

Visual editor - citations - ref name

I understand that changing the visual editor citations tool so that there's an option to set the ref name has been a request for some time.

Is someone able to explain (simply), how the ref name gets added by visual editor (and I suppose, why conversely it's not an easy fix).

Thanks Mmemaigret (talk) 06:25, 20 September 2025 (UTC)

How can we make it easier to report issues with Zotero translations?

 You are invited to join the discussion at w:Wikipedia_talk:Citing_sources#c-Sdkb-20251005222300-Colonies_Chris-20251001091500. Sdkb ^talk 22:24, 5 October 2025 (UTC)

Help with (or documentation about) the Automatic citation tab in VisualEditor

Resolved

I'm looking for guidance: Seeking help with the Automatic citation tab in VisualEditor. I've tried using it with URLs of court cases and decisions I'd like to cite, and it hasn't worked. e.g. 1, 2. (And Author ID fails with 3.) I'm wondering if it works with some of the more popular court case URLs - e.g. PACER (law), or Recap (software) or Justia or Lexis URLs, or the like, or some format of case citation. More generally, I'm also wondering where documentation of what it works with can be found, and where discussion of improving /expanding its capabilities happens.

Help:VisualEditor#Using Automatic tab doesn't point folks to where the above is happening. This doesn't seem like the place; maybe it's in Phabricator? (Hopefully I'm understanding correctly that the Automatic citation tab in VisualEditor is based on Citoid?) RememberOrwell (talk) 01:16, 2 January 2026 (UTC)

@RememberOrwell Citoid isn't able to convert PDF links (phab:T136722) that's why your second link fails. If your third link gives the wrong author it's likely due to the webpage's metadata. If other links don't work it might be due to missing Zotero translators. Johannes Richter (WMDE) (talk) 17:05, 2 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you! Super helpful! RememberOrwell (talk) 18:25, 2 January 2026 (UTC)

Yup. The abcnews.go.com page has incorrect metadata - <meta data-react-helmet="true" name="author" content="ABC News"> RememberOrwell (talk) 18:28, 2 January 2026 (UTC)

Incorrect shortening of Internet Archive links

The tool seems to strip details related to page numbers when citing Internet Archive works, see sample diff: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3APiotrus%2Fsandbox&diff=1336200759&oldid=1336200726

How can this be fixed? Piotrus (talk) 13:14, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

I think the problem there is that for a URL like https://archive.org/details/SwiatGierKomputerowych121995/page/n23/mode/2up the actual page you see doesn't include any particularly user-visible signs of the page number (the only sign in the source is some encoded-as-a-string JSON in the book-reader initialization call).

The thing to do here is probably to improve the Internet Archive zotero translator to know more about books on IA, whether by knowing about their book reader JS or by knowing about their URLs. It'd be a bit tightly tied to exact details of their current internal implementation, but falling back to just not showing a page number when nothing can be found wouldn't be any worse than the current situation... DLynch (WMF) (talk) 15:37, 15 May 2026 (UTC)

Error with SAGE publications

Recently, an issue has emerged with SAGE publications, where the automatic citation tool displays "Sage Journals: Discover world-class research" instead of the title of the article. This error occurs if the URL is used, and it uses the "Cite web" instead of the "Cite journal" template. This would need to be corrected in the tool but also in many articles where wrong citations have been added. LogicalLens (talk) 01:54, 26 February 2026 (UTC)

Newspapers.com

Resolved

This highly-used source seems to have done something that broke Citoid use on it. See phab:T419903. Sammi Brie (talk) 02:30, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

This issue was resolved on 20 March, as per phab:T419903 FRomeo (WMF) (talk) 13:38, 15 May 2026 (UTC)

Le Monde

Same problem as Newspapers.com. I added a bug on phabricator, to be sure of the explanation of the pb. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T426485 Pa2chant.bis (talk) 05:59, 16 May 2026 (UTC)