Structured Discussions/Deprecation
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StructuredDiscussions (SD - Flow) is used on a few wikis. This extension is not maintained. DiscussionTools (DT) is the default discussion system on wikis now.
The Growth team (SD maintainers) and the Editing team (DT maintainers) have started thinking about how to deprecate StructuredDiscussions (and possibly LiquidThreads) and replace them with DiscussionTools.
The idea is to have DiscussionTools provide equivalent features of what StructuredDiscussions offers, so that current SD users would switch to DT.
This project has no formal deadline or plan.
Project updates[edit]
- 2022-06-08: first internal document by Kosta Harlan (Staff software engineer, Growth team) and Benoît Evellin (Community Relations Specialist, attached to the Growth team) on sunsetting SD
- 2023-03-14: first meeting with Growth and Editing about SD deprecation
- 2023-03-14: Comparison table of the two tools.
- 2023-03-29: creation of the project page
- 2023-09: Data on usage of StructuredDiscussions
StructuredDiscussions and DiscussionTools Comparative review[edit]
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Dedicated workflow for starting a new topic | ![]() |
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Dedicated workflow for adding a new comment | ![]() |
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Subscribe to be notified about new comments to a topic | ![]() |
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Be notified when a new topic is started on a talk page | ![]() |
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Auto-subscription to a topic you created | ![]() |
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Each topic is a different pages/each conversation has a permalink | ![]() |
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Hide (moderate) a specific comment | ![]() |
delete (but no undelete UI) | ![]() |
Hide (moderate) a topic | ![]() |
delete (but no undelete UI) | ![]() |
Move topics between pages | ![]() |
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via wikitext editing, breaks permalinking |
Include discussions on another page and reply to them there | ![]() |
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Backwards compatible with wikitext | ![]() |
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Thank a comment from within the talk page | ![]() |
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Sort topics by recent comment | ![]() |
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Sort topics by start date | ![]() |
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Summarize a discussion | ![]() |
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Requires templates |
Mark read / unread | ![]() |
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Show/hide (collapse) subthreads | ![]() |
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Supported editors | wikitext and visual editing | wikitext editing | wikitext and visual editing (the latter with limitations) |
Templates support | ![]() |
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Permalink to a given comment | ![]() |
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Topic and contents preload | ![]() |
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History fully integrated to the rest of the wiki | ![]() |
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Indication of edited comments when you read a topic | ![]() |
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Notification of edited comments | ![]() |
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Direct access to user talkpage, contribs and more | ![]() |
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Highlight a quoted comment | ![]() |
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Highlight a set of unread comments | ![]() |
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Mobile web support | ![]() |
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Mobile app support | ![]() |
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Data on usage[edit]
In August 2023, on average:
- DiscussionTools is used about 18,780 times per day.
- Flow is used about 250 times per day, mainly at French Wikipedia.
- LiquidThreads is used less than once per day.