Skin talk:Timeless

TOC in left column?

I really like the Timeless skin. It's simple and elegant.

I also like that categories display in the right column. Is there a way to similarly put the TOC into the left column and possibly replace the Tools section, at least for users not logged in? 99+% users will not be logged in and not be editing using my wiki. They don't need a Tools section at all, but having the TOC being displayed instead would be really nice. The vector-2022 skin does it and I think it's a great feature.

Thanks for reading. Ohei2 (talk) 08:42, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

I removed the tools section on https://roter-kreis.de/ (uses Timeless as well) for anonymous users using CSS. This is not an elegant solution, but it works just fine. Redundant-decadence (talk) 09:33, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, it's just a neat enough hack to do it.

I have put the following into MediaWiki:Common.css as per your suggestion:

#site-tools.sidebar-chunk { display: none; }

Additionally I have undone this for sysops by adding the following to MediaWiki:Group-sysop.css:

#site-tools.sidebar-chunk { display: block; }

This works fine as far as the wiki tools section is concerned, but from what I have found on the net so far I am afraid the TOC issue is much more complicated. I am now thinking of either displaying the top 5 viewed pages in the right column which should be relatively easy to achieve with some javascripting, or just putting a static list of suggested articles there.

Ohei2 (talk) 18:00, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

Hello there, I actually came here with exactly the same request regarding the TOC. This skin is growing on me, but the one thing I really miss from Vector 2022 is the TOC following along as I scroll down the article. Any advice about how to (try to) do that would be very welcome. Choucas0 (talk) 18:34, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

Cluttered

The timeless concept i do support because vector skin 2022 without account still is way to small for a mobile user but there is an issue i noticed the alerts and notices icons are way to cluttered so please add spacing Depotadore (talk) 05:21, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

== Is Table of Content (TOC) Default set to Closed?

I just started using MediaWiki for free on Miraheze.org.

Yesterday, I changed to the Timeless skin and I really like it, but I want to have the default set to OPEN in the TOC. I asked around and there were some suggestions regarding making changes to the MediaWiki:Common.js. I tried both suggestions and neither worked for me.

The first suggested change was: $(document).ready(function() {

   var $tocToggleCheckbox = $('#toctogglecheckbox');
   if ($tocToggleCheckbox.length) {
       $tocToggleCheckbox.prop('checked', false).trigger('change');
   }

});

The second suggested change was:

      mw.hook('wikipage.content').add(function($content) {
   var $toc = $content.find('#toc');
   if ($toc.length) {
       var $tocToggleCheckbox = $toc.find('#toctogglecheckbox');
       if ($tocToggleCheckbox.length) {
           $tocToggleCheckbox.prop('checked', false).trigger('change');
       }
   }

});

Any suggestions?

User:Qi-Feng (talk) 4 May 2025 (UTC)

Should Timeless (aswell as the other Wikipedia styles) also have a dark mode?

Title self-explanatory. I really like the Timeless interface, and I think it would look alot better if it was available in dark mode. I wonder if it could be possible to have the Timeless appearance, aswell as the others besides Vector Legacy, should get a dark mode aswell. 2001:B07:646D:661:6D54:C6F5:FB68:D61F 17:11, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

Dark mode is currently a beta feature, many things need to be updated for it to work seamlessly. I also support having dark mode support in Timeless, but at this point I think it should happen later rather than sooner ­– the feature should be polished out in (staff-developed) Vector 2022 and Minerva, and should arrive in (volunteer-developed) Timeless only after that, to avoid wasting time, should foundations of the feature need to be changed. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 10:37, 15 June 2025 (UTC)