Project:Proposal for changing logo of MediaWiki, 2020/Round 1

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The current logo of MediaWiki was adopted slightly more than fifteen years ago and hasn’t changed since. This logo is outdated and comes with several problematic issues, that were in parts already known at time of its creation, despite featuring the nice concept of sunflower. The sunflower represents the diversity, the constant growth and also the wilderness.

Biggest issues of current logo:

  • It’s a bitmap picture so it’s unusable in large sizes (like large posters)
  • Same goes for number of colors and shades that make it hardly usable for applications like t-shirts or other swag
  • Its high details (“too realistic”) makes it unusable in small sizes
  • It makes it hard to do variants or easy adaptions (imagine anniversaries, special occasions applications, as it already features so many different styles, that it's hard to fit in any more or modify

Most, virtually all, software products use a simpler and more abstract form following basic logo design guidelines and best-practices to avoid above issues. For example, docker, kubernetes, Ubuntu, Vue.js, React, Apache Kafka, Drupal and many more. It’s a good time for MediaWiki to follow suit.

My request is for changing the logo of MediaWiki and for this project only, not for changing logos of any other project.

Please show your support, oppose or your comments for proposals below.

Logo changing processes and examples of other projects in meta wiki: m:Discussion on the logo votes

Timeline
Phase From Date End Date Notes
Proposals and discussions June 22th, 2020 August 10th, 2020 Time to add proposals and discuss them
Voting round one August 10th, 2020 September 10th, 2020 Voting on general design of all proposals
Preliminary legal clearance September 10th, 2020 September 24th, 2020
Voting round two September 24th, 2020 October 24th, 2020 Vote on variants of top proposals
Legal clearance of the top candidate October 24th, 2020 November 24th, 2020

General discussion[edit]

Results[edit]

Votes Files Example
63/12/2: 74% Mediawiki logo proposal (3 colors).svg Mediawiki logo icon proposal (3 colors) v2.svg Proposed mediawiki logo (3 colors) legacy vector.png
29/22.5/2.5: 56% Mediawiki wordmark + logo vertical - proposed.svg Mediawiki logo - proposed.svg Proposed mediawiki logo with DIP 2.png
25/16/4: 61% MediaWiki proposal number 14 vertical logo MediaWiki proposal number 14 horizontal logo Mediawiki placed.png
13/9/1: 59% MediaWiki logo center redraw.svg MediaWiki logo center redraw notext.svg
9/7/0: 56% Mediawiki logo combined proposal 1 and 2.svg Mediawiki logo combined proposal 1 and 2 - without wordmark.svg Mediawiki logo combine proposal 1 and 2 - in use vector.png
9/8/4: 53% MediaWiki Logo proposal by LL option 3 icon.svg MediaWiki Logo proposal by LL option 3.svg MediaWiki logo proposal 11 mock screenshot in Vector.png

Proposal one[edit]

The following discussion is closed and will soon be archived: (29/22.5/2.5: 56,3%)
Small size: Mediawiki logo - proposed.svg

Since I’m not a designer, I asked several designers and Nirzar kindly accepted to design the new logo and other designers took a pass on it and refined it. This is that logo.

How it looks like in use[edit]

"Powered by mediawiki" logo at bottom of pages with the new design.
The logo in use in sidebar with the desktop improvement changes applied, sidebar uncollapsed
The logo in use in sidebar with the desktop improvement changes applied, sidebar collapsed
The logo in use in sidebar with the old look
Derivative of proposed logo

Votes (1)[edit]

  • Support as the proposer Ladsgroup (talk) 00:42, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support with a much lighter, possibly lightblue center. Edit: +1 for the later added rainbow variant. —Aron Man.🍂 edits🌾 01:34, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose I think this is too bland. There's not enough to distinguish it from other tech projects. I want a logo that's unique, that we can rally behind, that can easily be identified. I feel like if I saw this logo for the first time, I would forget about it soon after seeing it. Its a sunflower - but it doesn't feel like its "our" sunflower, or different from any other abstract image of a sunflower. As an aside, I'm also not a fan of the font for "MediaWiki", but that's a minor quibble. Bawolff (talk) 01:43, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong Support. The current logo looks more suitable to a site in the 90s. A refresh is definitely in order. I like the simplicity of this logo - it reminds me of how the starbucks logo simplified over the years to become the iconic brand of today (lots of good reading on that subject if somebody isn't convinced that abstract is a good thing). That said it feels a little weird voting on something that is out my realm of expertise. I'm not a designer. I'd be very interested to hear about the design ideas behind this and why this one was chosen. Jdlrobson (talk) 01:54, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose This logo looks like something google would make then everybody would ignore. It looks like the complete opposite of the entirety of mediawiki Naleksuh (talk) 02:12, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose, the large black colored circle does not look good. Will rethink if the color changes. --Titodutta (talk) 03:00, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Love it! Yea, the black circle is a little heavy. And I would love to keep the square brackets. But these are minor refinements we can still do before we start actually using this logo. --Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE) 06:16, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose I'd like to keep the square brackets. Also not a fan of that font.  Majavah talk · edits 07:03, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support But, if possible it would be really nice to see some variants of this per the comments above (like maybe with a different font?). KHarlan (WMF) (talk) 08:27, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose, doesn't look like a sunflower, is dominated by a large black hole in the middle. Max Semenik (talk) 08:42, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support I think this is a nice proposal that can become a good alternative with some experimentation and refinement. I don't like the dotless i's, so would encourage to try with a different font. –Nikerabbit (talk) 12:49, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Agree that the dot-less i's aren't necessary Ed g2s (talk) 13:16, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Neutral Neutral/Oppose Oppose depending on the outcome. Too simplistic to my taste, it’s not like MediaWiki owns the sunflower metaphor, lowercase ‘medıawıkı’ spelling is bad. Would prefer it to keeping the old logo, but otherwise there are better alternatives. stjn[ru] 13:25, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose: recognition is lost. There is no need for such drastic changes.Carn (talk) 13:38, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose — Like the logo of a company producing sunflower oil. Helgo13 (talk) 13:49, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong Support I love this option so much. It is clean and simple. It can be easily used as a logo system. I used it to easily create this derivative. I think being able to easily modify the logo is the heart of what a wiki is and we should have a logo that reflects that openness. DBarratt (WMF) (talk) 15:20, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Ditching the square brackets greatly declutters the logo so I'm in favor of that, and I like the simplicity of the petals and how well it scales down to a smaller resolution for icons. I would change the black circle in the middle to a more neutral color so that the logo works well in dark themes as well where the skin's background is dark or black. Either that or also design a "dark mode" logo. --Skizzerz 15:44, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong support Modern and suitable for a software in the 2020s. This is exactly what I have been wishing for MediaWiki for years. RichardHeigl (talk) 17:52, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support It's not perfect, but it's a good starting point. There is no excessive detail and brackets, and it looks good in small sizes. — putnik 20:18, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Black hole ? and no brackets ? Yes, looks like an agri firm logo. Anthere (talk)
  • Oppose Oppose. Agree with the "black hole" comments and the criticism of the dot-less "i"s, but a variant could work. Eloquence (talk) 03:41, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Not oppose to change in general, but I don't think this design is better than the current one. Also I think, it'd be good to describe what the logo elements mean, so people can give more informed opinions. For instance what the black hole exactly stands for? Ammarpad (talk) 06:43, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose I think User:Anthere said it well. I find no relevance with MediaWiki software, especially without the brackets. Huji (talk) 16:23, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
    User:Huji: Sunflower is the concept of mediawiki and IMHO adding brackets make it busy. For example VueJS logo doesn't have anything directly related to the software and if you don't know about VueJS, by just seeing the logo, you could assume it's hiking company, Docker is a fishing insurance and so on. Also 1- Given we have VE, brackets are not as vital part of mediawiki for an editor than before 2- mediawiki is also for readers (of Wikipedia and other mediawiki installation) too whom don't know what these bracket are for and confuses themLadsgroup (talk) 16:43, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
    @Ladsgroup: all great points. Yet, somehow, this particular rendition of a sunflower doesn't sit well with me (I googled "sunflower icon" and found others that looked more appealing to me). Let's also agree to disagree on our views regarding the double-brackets. I think that is such a "characteristic" feature of MediaWiki that I would rather keep that than let it go. Indeed, between the idea of "replace brackets with something else (or remove them)" and "replace sunflower with something else (or remove it)" I am more keen towards the latter. Huji (talk) 16:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Nice start but a bit too heavy, yes. Jdforrester (talk) 18:07, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak Support I like the direction a lot. The main thing that stands out to me is that it implies MediaWiki should henceforth be stylized in all-lowercase "mediawiki", which I don't think is a good fit for us, but is perhaps worthy of its own design exploration orthogonal to the general logo design. I also agree that omitting the I-dots or colouring those dots differently is imho distracting. --Krinkle (talk) 19:29, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak Support --Smaug the Golden (talk - contributions - logs) 19:48, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose --ThurnerRupert (talk) 23:46, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Boring, weird font, missing the brackets, and generally looks like an what you'd expect from some company making biodesiel from sunflowers or something. Anomie (talk) 20:51, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Very clean. I especially like the font for the wordmark. Sdkb (talk) 07:04, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose. Boring, flat, primitive. Looks like zillion other "simple-style" logos of modern web. Primitivisation and stupidistation of web design is a bad tendency of last 5-7 years. Фред-Продавец звёзд (talk) 22:20, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose Seems too commercial, not original and not unique at all. --Ferdi2005 (talk) 20:21, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong support Modern, simple, and meaningful.--Editor-1 (talk) 12:49, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Niridya (talk) 17:28, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Support I like the concept very much. --Omnilaika02 (talk) 06:55, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Sleak. –MJLTalk 17:19, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose I don't get the benefit of this change. Leaderboard (talk) 17:30, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Abbe98 (talk) 13:20, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong support I think it strikes a great balance between simplicity and uniqueness. There are few elements, but yet it doesn't look like a generic sunflower icon. AHollender (WMF) (talk) 18:06, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Legoktm (talk) 10:58, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support My favorite from the list Guergana_Tzatchkova (talk) 15:28, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support I like the concept very much: it is a clear evolution, in a more modern interpretation, of the sunflower logo. Easy to use at different sizes. I probably prefer the one with the blue dot, without the brackets: they are simply too much. --Luca Mauri (talk) 19:39, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
  • 'Neutral Neutral' I like the idea, don't like the black center and the font (small dotless i is a separate character; for a software priding itself on its internationalization, a logo that mixes up characters is counterproductive IMO) --Tgr (talk) 21:27, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak support This is OK. I like it, but is a bit uninspired. Works good on all screen sizes. I prefer blue middle. ~~ Forza ~~ (talk) 18:29, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
  • 'Neutral Neutral' CamelCase, Script other details. --[[kgh]] (talk) 17:44, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support I like the logo. Not so sure about the text part. -- DKinzler (WMF) (talk) 19:47, 19 August 2020 (UTC) (voting with my staff account by way of disclosure, not indicating wmf endorsement)
  • Oppose Oppose Matma Rex (talk) 21:27, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Cody3647 (talk) 21:21, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Zppix (Volunteer Dev) (talk) 14:52, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support -- Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 05:49, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose It doesn't symbolize any of our strengths such as heterogeneity. Adamw (talk) 14:02, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Best of the bunch. MusikAnimal talk 15:57, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Tufor (talk) 23:24, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Sohom data (talk) 07:09, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose - we need to retain the spirit of the original one. This does not do that. ImprovedWikiImprovment (talk) 21:30, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Jeroen De Dauw (talk) 10:12, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Comments (1)[edit]

  • I'm not sure I'm a fan of how it looks when its small. Bawolff (talk) 01:06, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • There should probably be multiple size versions (with varying numbers of petals) for any vector sunflower logo, to make sure it's legible at smaller sizes. wctaiwan (talk) 01:28, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Maybe it would be worth trying to make the middle a bit brighter? In the final version, the sunflower should also be centered properly. --MGChecker (talk) 01:10, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • On IRC, User:Jack Phoenix mentioned that this logo seemed quite similar to the https://miraheze.org/ logo (Which i agree with, especially when small). Bawolff (talk) 01:21, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • I feel like the contrast between the center and the yellow ray flowers is huge. The yellow part can be hardly seen on the icon-sized image. I think this would be perfect with a light brown or light blue center. +1 for the minimalism. —Aron Man.🍂 edits🌾 01:34, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
MediaWiki logo combined extended 1.svg
  • Would it be possible to add the square brackets back? It helps to differentiate MW sunflower with other ones and it adds a bit of personality to the brand. I like minimalism of the logo, having the blue color feels too busy for me. As for the font, it feels more welcoming and friendly compared to the old font. However, the alignment of k feels odd to me. - Alistair3149 (talk) 02:01, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
    • I also offer options with sparse petals.Carn (talk) 18:50, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • What font is this? Is it libre? Max Semenik (talk) 08:42, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • I combined this logo with proposal 2, due to taking some of the comments here on board (dislike monolithic black circle and lack of dots on i's). However I left out brackets. I'll try another with the brackets maybe too. Mvolz (talk) 15:13, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
    • I've done another with brackets too. Personally prefer it without as it just starts to get too busy. Mvolz (talk) 16:06, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • colours and centre from proposal 2

  • with brackets


    • User:Mvolz Do you want to add them as proposal five and six? Thanks! Ladsgroup (talk) 17:11, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
      • In general, any vote in this format is profanity. First you need to throw options, then choose the best one from them.Carn (talk) 18:50, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Too many petals are too close - in a small image everything merges into one (something like an eye comes out).Carn (talk) 17:04, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
    i think we should investigate having different versions small and large. I think its common to have a small variant of a logo that is not just the big logo scaled down; we dont use the exact same wikipedia logo on the page as we do for a favicon. Bawolff (talk) 20:22, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • "Derivative of proposed logo" looks good too. It has a "United Colors of Benetton" feel to it. I feel the center is too dark on this one as well. —Aron Man.🍂 edits🌾 15:04, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
  • It seems to me better without brackets, they are too large in this version. :) Iniquity (talk) 03:12, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Can we see an example of these alternative proposals in which the core of the sunflower is (correctly) in dark brown, like the actual flower, as opposed to arbitrary colors like blue? Huji (talk) 16:59, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Proposal two[edit]

The following discussion is closed and will soon be archived: (8/19/0: 29%)
Small size: MediaWiki logo 2018 crop.svg

Votes (2)[edit]

  • Support The detailed ray flowers are really nice and the blue center is a good complementer - maybe a bit too strong -, but the brackets around it I think are incompatible. —Aron Man.🍂 edits🌾 01:34, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Solution looking for a problem, this is just the current logo but changing it for the heck of it Naleksuh (talk) 02:12, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Sorry, but the different shades of blue don't work well together. The shapes feel unbalanced. --Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE) 06:17, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose per Naleksuh. The two circles feel out of place.  Majavah talk · edits 07:03, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose The yellow petals seem messy to me, and I do not understand the blue circles. --MGChecker (talk) 12:34, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support. Ed g2s (talk) 13:16, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose. The flower looks plucked, the font is bad, prefer the third proposal in comparison. Do prefer anything over the current logo. stjn[ru] 13:25, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose No more brackets, please. It makes the whole project old-fashioned. RichardHeigl (talk) 17:55, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
This is an identity, losing logo recognition is the last thing we need. A logo without brackets from the first proposal would suit an oil company. They look like some kind of gas burners. Carn (talk) 19:19, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support not yet ideal (would need some further exploring) but I rather like that proposal actually. But why two circles ? Why blue ? Anthere (talk)
  • Oppose Oppose. No major change I'd expect to see in 2020. Tar Lócesilion (queta) 02:08, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Too busy. Jdforrester (talk) 18:07, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Per Naleksuh. Veracious (talk) 02:37, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Better than #1, but the blue circles in the center look weird and the sunflower looks wilted. Anomie (talk) 20:53, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose The petals are too busy and are overpowered by the dark brackets. Sdkb (talk) 07:05, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak support. It is better than previous proposal. Фред-Продавец звёзд (talk) 22:38, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose looks weird, too busy and too strange petals!--Ferdi2005 (talk) 20:22, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak support I don't mind this. I like the status quo better though. Bawolff (talk) 04:49, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose I don't think this is worth the change. If we're going to make an update I think we should use it as an opportunity to properly refine the logo. AHollender (WMF) (talk) 18:14, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Sam Wilson 22:52, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose It's alright, but I don't see this as a significant improvement over the current logo. Legoktm (talk) 10:59, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Not much of an improvement over the old logo. I think it's time for something new. --Tgr (talk) 21:27, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose --[[kgh]] (talk) 17:46, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Matma Rex (talk) 21:27, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Cody3647 (talk) 21:21, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak support -- Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 05:48, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Ammarpad (talk) 06:21, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose --ImprovedWikiImprovment (talk) 21:31, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong support This beautiful and magically mysterious looking image should be readily accepted}} RIT RAJARSHI (talk) 11:45, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Comments (2)[edit]

  • I'm not really ready to vote yet, still have a lot to think about, but I think this is my favourite if we're not keeping the status quo. Bawolff (talk) 01:25, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • I think the brackets don't really fit this logo, maybe it would be better without. —Aron Man.🍂 edits🌾 01:34, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • A very good shade of blue is associated with data. Carn (talk) 17:18, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • The most beautiful MediaWiki Logo, plus it looks so magical and mysterious. This image should be accepted.
  • Please reopen the discussion RIT RAJARSHI (talk) 11:42, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Proposal three[edit]

The following discussion is closed and will soon be archived: (13/14/6: 48%)
Small size: Notification-icon-MediaWiki-logo.svg

Votes (3)[edit]

  • Oppose Oppose. I've never liked this version of the sunflower. I don't think the complex sunflower image works when turned non-photorealistic Bawolff (talk) 01:00, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose. It feels bland. —Aron Man.🍂 edits🌾 01:34, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Bad attempt at "modernizing" the current logo, which, again, nothing is wrong with and fits the entire site much better. Naleksuh (talk) 02:12, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Neutral Neutral This is my favourite if we're not keeping the status quo.  Majavah talk · edits 07:03, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Not too different from the current logo but still a nice, modern update. Daylen (talk) 10:50, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support. Ed g2s (talk) 13:16, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support. While both the sunflower and the wordmark can be improved upon (this font is not used anymore in Wikimedia things, sunflower can be made more scalable), this is a conditional support of a direction in which logo improvement must go forward. stjn[ru] 13:25, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Neutral Neutral - of the four proposed, this is the best aesthetically (and most similar to the original). But aesthetics is not the most important thing for a logo. Carn (talk) 19:15, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support — At the same time, a traditional and updated logo. Helgo13 (talk) 13:47, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support. I think this is the best option out of the proposed ones (so far). It will need a bit more work but it is an improvement without moving too far away from the current logo. DMaza (WMF) (talk) 15:04, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Neutral Neutral Without brackets this would be acceptable. However, it is a less courageous approach. RichardHeigl (talk) 17:56, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support would still need some work (center in particular is quite ugly) but I rather like the approach Anthere (talk)
  • Neutral Neutral Not ready for a full replacement, but this version of the logo has already been useful and appreciated for several years now. It's well-done for three reasons, in my opinion: 1) keeps the brackets and flower (free knowledge gardening!) theme, which is the core of the logo; 2) simplifies the flower (no need for a detailed centre; petals can be fewer) without making it a mere geometrical figure without any obvious meaning; 3) keeps some consistency with the traditional Wikimedia visual guidelines in the wordmark. Nemo 19:24, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose. No major change I'd expect to see in 2020. Tar Lócesilion (queta) 02:08, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
  • weak support I like the direction in which this is going (flatter visualization, brackets and flower are same height making the small size look good, core of the flower is in brown). I just feel like the flower is a bit too busy. How about we reduce the petal count or increase its spacing, somewhat closer to proposal 2? Huji (talk) 17:03, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Still too heavy. Jdforrester (talk) 18:07, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose It's time to ditch the double square brackets, IMO, which only have meaning to people who edit using wiki markup. Once intended to be clever and inviting, this symbolism now risks being alienating and off-putting. I also agree with Anthere that the center of the flower is unappealing; it just looks like a brown circle or ball that's not really part of the flower (I think it's both due to the fill color and the white circle around it).--Eloquence (talk) 04:25, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Simplicity, for my taste it could be even simpler Ziko (talk) 15:37, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose feels cartoonish. Guettarda (talk) 05:01, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Neutral Neutral I prefer the status quo to this, but I wouldn't hate this like I would the previous two. The flat design is still a bit lacking IMO. Anomie (talk) 20:56, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose The petals are too busy. Sdkb (talk) 07:06, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak support Retains the feel and symbolism of the original (which I like, IMHO), while addressing problems 1, 2 and 4. I'd make the petals very slightly less detailed to reach the perfect balance between "too busy" and "too boring/unnatural". Glades12 (talk) 10:28, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose same issue as above — I don't think this is worth the change to end up with something so similar AHollender (WMF) (talk) 18:14, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Sam Wilson 22:52, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Neutral Neutral Never been a huge fan, but if we just want to modernize the current logo, I suppose this does it. Legoktm (talk) 11:00, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Not much of an improvement over the old logo. I think it's time for something new. --Tgr (talk) 21:27, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Seems dated and is too busy IMHO ~~ Forza ~~ (talk) 18:33, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
  • weak support --[[kgh]] (talk) 17:46, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Matma Rex (talk) 21:27, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Cody3647 (talk) 21:21, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak support -- Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 05:47, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Ammarpad (talk) 06:22, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose I do not like the look of this one at all. Sorry --ImprovedWikiImprovment (talk) 21:32, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Comments (3)[edit]

  • Not enough contrast, too thin lines between the petals.Carn (talk) 17:02, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Proposal four: Status quo[edit]

The following discussion is closed and will soon be archived: (18/28/0: 39%)
The current logo, Small size: MediaWiki-notext.svg

Votes (4)[edit]

  • Support Oh hey, this one is good! Wait, we had it all along? Naleksuh (talk) 02:12, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support higher resolution/SVG version of this image. Regards. --Titodutta (talk) 03:03, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support It's not ideal, but it's better than the current alternatives. Yaron Koren (talk) 03:07, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support  Majavah talk · edits 07:03, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support, while the problems with this logo are real, it just looks so goddamn positive. Max Semenik (talk) 08:47, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Ed g2s (talk) 13:16, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose. Never liked it, never understood what’s to like about it. Awful text shadow, non-scalable sunflower. Even worse was using, I think, Translatewiki.net years ago with this sunflower transposed over content background (something for older user to remember, I guess). stjn[ru] 13:25, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose: raster logo is the last century. Carn (talk) 13:37, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose: This is terrible and anything is better than this. Sorry, old logo :). Mvolz (talk) 14:47, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose. This isn't even really looking like a logo. Logos aren't usually photorealistic. I've always looked at the place for a logo on mediawiki.org and thought "Oh when oh when will they actually get a logo". Honestly, mediawiki.org has always felt... not quite serious because of the logo. Jack who built the house (talk) 15:47, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose People already wrote the reasons, I just want to remind people that this is not a logo, it's a picture. Ladsgroup (talk) 16:58, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support I understand some of the arguments listed above (need a refresh etc.) but I still do like it :) Anthere (talk)
  • Oppose Oppose. A change is overdue (sorry, Florence - it is a beautiful flower), but I think we can come up with a better option than any of the logos submitted so far. Eloquence (talk) 03:44, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support In the absence of better alternatives. Ammarpad (talk) 06:49, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support It's fine to keep the current logo and at the same time use some print-friendly version where appropriate. File:MediaWiki logo reworked 2.svg has been useful for a while in this regard. To actually supersed the current logo we'd need some improvement on the alternatives, can keep iterating. Nemo 18:39, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support I fail to see what is actually accomplished by changing the logo. * Pppery * it has begun 01:54, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose. Nah, too many elements. Shadows, different formatting of the brackets and MediaWiki, etc. Tar Lócesilion (queta) 02:08, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose. It was okay... for a 1995, but for now this logo is very dated. --Serhio Magpie (talk) 02:56, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose (actually strong oppose, template not avail). The current logo fails in several ways being a good or even a decent logo. All of the issues in the proposal description are too obvious and problematic. Additionally, the mix of illustration, wordmark, realistic photo with 4 main colors and only Tyler, the Creator (sorry, my err!) whoever knows how many different colors and shades – glued together necessarily by a drop shadow as another style element is purely horrible and, at best, ironically contradicts the professionalization the software project has seen over last couple of years. Volker E. (talk) 19:50, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
    @Volker. E: You can use code {{Oppose|Strong oppose}}. --Smaug the Golden (talk - contributions - logs) 20:01, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose issues with the current logo were enumerated at the top of the page. I think it is time for a facelift. Huji (talk) 17:04, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose I disliked this logo when I didn't vote for it in 2003. I've not changed my mind. :-) Jdforrester (talk) 18:07, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Strong oppose --Smaug the Golden (talk - contributions - logs) 19:39, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Strong oppose It looks very outdated. We need something a lot more minimalist. Matinee71 (talk) 06:40, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Other than "hard to put on a T-shirt cheaply", I don't really see anything wrong with this (or File:MediaWiki_logo_1.svg) as the canonical logo. Why change what already works well? An alternative version could be endorsed for T-shirts and very small sizes if necessary. Anomie (talk) 20:59, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
    It is told above - PNG gives a lot of dirt, the logo should be cleaner. In addition to t-shirts, there may be posters and printing products on which this logo would look bad. Carn (talk) 05:55, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
    Agreed. As I said below, the SVG version is 2.9MB, we can't use this as the logo in mediawiki.org Ladsgroup (talk) 11:08, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
    SVG version have some strange center. Without this center, the file has size 404 KB - Carn (talk) 11:22, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
    @ladsgroup: Why would you need to? Just rasterize in high-dpi. Everything is going to end up being a series of pixels in the end. Why does it matter if it gets converted to pixels on the client side or the server side? Bawolff (talk) 04:30, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Strong oppose per the nom. The logo looks as ancient as it is and clearly needs reform. Sdkb (talk) 07:08, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose, looks ancient. Wikisaurus (talk) 14:37, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong support, let's stop degradation of design. "Ancient" logos typically looks more interesting than modern flat and simplified ones. Фред-Продавец звёзд (talk) 22:26, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
    No, it is not. Carn (talk) 22:44, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Looks awful!--Editor-1 (talk) 12:44, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose - Although unique, it has always looked offputtingly dated and awkward. It gives the impression that it was put together without any graphic designer input. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 07:26, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Strong oppose Looks so outdated. DSwissK (talk) 13:41, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Support - Classics never go out of style ;). I support using this logo, and using rasterization of the File:MediaWiki logo 1.svg when we need high resolution versions. I support using monochrome version of proposal 3 or 4 in cases where we want a silhouette version (e.g. Like the wikipedia technical wishlist tshirt). I see no problem with using a different logo in silhouette contexts then in main contexts. I think it imbues a sense of community, where some of the more trendy flat designs have an association of being a cog in the corporate machine. Bawolff (talk) 04:29, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose - We need an svg. -- MichaelSchoenitzer (talk) 15:07, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Yes, we need an SVG, but otherwise it's good enough. Leaderboard (talk) 17:31, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Strong oppose this logo unfortunately presents issues in terms of legibility at small and large sizes. It is also using a PNG which makes it less flexible. AHollender (WMF) (talk) 18:14, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose DBarratt (WMF) (talk) 18:58, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Sam Wilson 22:52, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support I'm fine with the status quo, though we should officially select an SVG version. Legoktm (talk) 11:01, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose I think it's time for something new. --Tgr (talk) 21:27, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose --[[kgh]] (talk) 17:59, 18 August 2020 (UTC) Indeed, it's time. However none of the other proposals are really convincing.
  • Support Matma Rex (talk) 21:27, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Strong oppose Cody3647 (talk) 21:21, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Geertivp (talk) 07:40, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Support ImprovedWikiImprovment (talk) 07:51, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Strong opposePierpao (talk) 11:03, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
  • SupportMarcoAurelio (talk) 10:08, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Comments (4)[edit]

  • I don't think the logo pictured here is the current logo. The petals look weird relative to File:MediaWiki logo without tagline.png. The lack of high resolution in the official one is very unfortunate... Bawolff (talk) 01:04, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
    hmm, now searching I got File:MediaWiki-notext.svg from m:Logo. Does that sound better? Ladsgroup (talk) 01:14, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
    The fact we have multiple apparent versions, and it's not obvious which is which... Reedy (talk) 01:16, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
    I think the official logo would be the one we actually use, on the site. The SVG version honestly looks pretty terrible [Edit: To clarify, I am not referring to Isarra's svg version which looks much better, which is mentioned below]. Bawolff (talk) 01:18, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
    Bawolff I took the liberty of removing your logo and replacing mine with it. Hope that's fine with you (WP:BOLD) Ladsgroup (talk) 01:27, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • So I'm pretty attached to our current logo and like it a lot. But even i must admit its a real problem that we don't have a good faithful vectorized version, or even a high resolution version. This especially hurts us when making stickers/swag/posters etc. Bawolff (talk) 01:29, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
    If the problem is lack of high resolution though, one option is to just take a new, higher resolution picture of a sunflower. Bawolff (talk) 01:36, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • The brackets seem to be behind the sunflower, not around it like in Proposals 2,3. I think this gives a more open feeling to the image. —Aron Man.🍂 edits🌾 01:34, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Like Bawolff, I too have become personally attached to the current logo - though I can see that it's not great, objectively speaking. The fact that it's a photo causes problems, and seems behind the times. And the brackets, while clever, may be too "busy". And then there's the most dated aspect of the logo, that pointless drop shadow on everything (thankfully, the "Powered by MediaWiki" version doesn't have it). So, I agree that the logo could use an update. However, I don't like any of the other proposals that much. The first logo is probably the strongest one, but it has some problems: it lacks any kind of whimsy, and looks better when it's smaller. And what's up with the missing dots on the "i"s?
I also want to state that, in my opinion, the world is currently in a state of minor lockdown-induced insanity, and I don't think I trust us to collectively make good decisions right now. I think it makes sense to postpone this discussion maybe another six months or so - which would also provide enough time to maybe organize some actual logo contest. Yaron Koren (talk) 03:07, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
In addition to covid stresses, there is very real stress/burn out/general insanity from the other branding discussion that we should probably be mindful of. Bawolff (talk) 05:02, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • The SVG version of this logo has been brought up several times. I'd like to remind people that it's 2.9 MB and it's more like automatic conversion of png to svg than an actual design. Ladsgroup (talk) 22:16, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
    • I think that's underselling the skill involved. Automatic vectorization is a really hard problem, and generally does not have good results. But yes, ultimately it is a photo-realistic picture of a sun-flower, and not a more simple line-art diagram like most logos (I don't see that as a problem, but i understand why many would). Bawolff (talk) 04:33, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Proposal five[edit]

The following discussion is closed and will soon be archived: (13/9/1: 59%)
Standart MediaWiki logo with new center and no shadow
Small size:MediaWiki logo center redraw notext.svg
For those who would like to update the logo, but do not really want to change anything. New, not so messy center and no shadow.Carn (talk) 08:07, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Votes (5)[edit]

  • PNG logo is a disaster. Only automatic vectorization can be worse than it. Dramatically changing a recognizable logo does not make much sense though. Organizations are changing their logos after some bad events. Recognition of the logo should always come first. But if there is an option to maintain recognition of a logo and draw it for higher resolutions - we might need to do this. Carn (talk) 13:36, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
    • After consulting with logo desginers I realise that logo need three things - contrast (both color and for grayscale), small resolutions (no thin lines and spaceous elements), recognition (it may be necessary to save the sunflower and brackets). But first you need to write where this logo will be used - hang in the corner on the site, with a small icon in the browser tab and on conference posters, for example. Carn (talk) 19:30, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
    • This variant (if it was whole with textures) would be good only for posters, very bad for small icon.Carn (talk) 19:32, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • This could work as long as it isn't too different from the current one. The vectorized version looks worse for sure, but there's noreason to think a manual one wouldn't either. Naleksuh (talk) 21:37, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
    @Naleksuh: - I updated the image.Carn (talk) 08:07, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
    @Carn: Ehhh......I still really like the original the most, but since that will clearly lose to arbitrary changes i reluctant support Naleksuh (talk) 18:53, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Still too heavy. Jdforrester (talk) 18:07, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose --Smaug the Golden (talk - contributions - logs) 19:41, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak support It's better than the original, while still being very similar. Matinee71 (talk) 06:45, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak support Keeps the essential identity at least. Anomie (talk) 21:02, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Would be a slight improvement on the status quo, but not enough. The petals are too busy; we need a more fundamental change. Sdkb (talk) 07:11, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Neutral Neutral it is the best vector rendition of existing logo, so if nothing else reaches consensus, at least we can switch to this and be vectorized. Huji (talk) 15:02, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Support is gud Naleksuh (talk) 19:56, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose good effort, but i feel like this is a compromise that's kind of the worst of both worlds. Bawolff (talk) 04:34, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Support MichaelSchoenitzer (talk) 15:08, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak support Change can be scary, and I like the idea of not doing much. –MJLTalk 17:18, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose again same as options #2 and #3 — not worth the change. AHollender (WMF) (talk) 18:14, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Sam Wilson 22:52, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support I actually don't mind this. Legoktm (talk) 11:02, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support -- MichaelSchoenitzer (talk) 23:45, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Not much of an improvement over the old logo. I think it's time for something new. --Tgr (talk) 21:27, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose --[[kgh]] (talk) 17:47, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Matma Rex (talk) 21:27, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Cody3647 (talk) 21:21, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak support -- Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 05:45, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Support ImprovedWikiImprovment (talk) 07:51, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak support since it's essentially the old good logo. But probably the changes may not be noticeable at smaller sizes. Ammarpad (talk) 06:25, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Comments (5)[edit]

  • As concepts for discussion and layout with other options:Carn (talk) 19:45, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
  • MediaWiki logo reworked 2020.svgCarn (talk) 08:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
    This one may be perceived as a copyright violation of the second logo on this page. Huji (talk) 17:16, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
    People who are inclined to broadly interpret copyright can write any letters, of course, including the like you mentioned. There is a myriad of similar logos. So such a possibility, firstly, is quite hypothetical, and secondly, doesn't have any reason. But, of course, the presence of such opinion demotivates to refine the idea in this direction. Carn (talk) 18:53, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
    @Huji: you are basically arguing that the idea of showing half a thing over the wordmark is copyrightable. I don't think that idea meets the threshold of originality by any reasonable definition. --Tgr (talk) 11:40, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

This is two logos, they must not be used at the same time on one picture. It is only in order to show the concept that the text logo (do we need text logo really?) as the echo of the graphic logo: Carn (talk) 08:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

  • @Tgr, Carn: note that I deliberately did not say it "was" a copyright violation and said that it could be "perceived" as such (and perhaps I should have written "misperceived"). Just wanting to make sure we don't end up with something that results in lots of unnecessary arguments. Huji (talk) 12:58, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
    See Commons:Threshold of originality plz Carn (talk) 13:08, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Proposal six[edit]

The following discussion is closed and will soon be archived: Succeding to the next round (63/12/2: 74%)

A small size version can be with fewer petals. --Serhio Magpie (talk) 18:53, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

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Votes (6)[edit]

  • Support Refreshing! Thanks for the original ideas. Carn (talk) 19:35, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support. A good alternative to the proposal one. The same advantages in terms of simplicity and getting rid of unnecessary elements. — putnik 20:20, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support. I like the first option best. Very professionally looking, no superfluous elements, dots above i's are not lost, no burdensome blackness of the first proposal's logo. Jack who built the house (talk) 20:51, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Where's the text? Where's the brackets? And definitely not the second one. Naleksuh (talk) 21:37, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support. Beautiful, awesome. The rainbow-colored sunflower is really close to my heart. Diverse and powerful. —Aron Man.🍂 edits🌾 15:01, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong support — great and better than other logos. Helgo13 (talk) 16:31, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support. I like it :) Iniquity (talk) 22:55, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support, it's a move towards a good direction (2010s are closer to our reality than 2000s are), although... I'd try to simplify even more. Fewer petals and flat icon, closer to proposal 1? Also, I'm not a designer, but I've heard about the accessibility, and I think it might be good to align the logo with these guidelines if it hasn't been already... mightn't it? Tar Lócesilion (queta) 02:08, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
    • Thanks for response. I will try to provide more variants dependent on these ideas! --Serhio Magpie (talk) 02:29, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
    • Serhio Magpie, the flat one with Wikimedia colours is by far the best of all proposals I can see on the page! Tar Lócesilion (queta) 00:51, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support - The best proposal so far. Kaldari (talk) 21:49, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support - I really like the simplicity, the color, and the font choice of the logo, especially the gradient one. It is difficult but is there something that can symbolize MediaWiki or a wiki software that can be put in the center? Sunflower doesn't spell out wiki software and I think we need a replacement for the wiki text brackets. As for WMF color, I'm not sure as the name is already confusing enough with other WMF projects, using the color might make the situation worse :/ - Alistair3149 (talk) 16:35, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
    • Is it possible to make a variant with WMF color but using gradient? - Alistair3149 (talk) 16:45, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
      I tried different styles, but it doesn't seem to work at all - 1, 2, 3. Serhio Magpie (talk) 19:39, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
    • > As for WMF color, I'm not sure as the name is already confusing enough with other WMF projects, using the color might make the situation worse :/
      I suggested painting in these colors, because it seems to me that despite the name, when we look at the icons, there is no exact association with the Wikimedia brand. Although both analytics and tulforge have such colors. But in any case, I like the colorful one more :) Iniquity (talk) 19:28, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong support Great visual design. --Skizzerz 16:33, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose I like the idea, but it kind of feels like the BP logo just not in green/yellow. Also, as with some of the options above, I think this essentially takes away any relevance to MediaWiki by removing the brackets. Huji (talk) 17:18, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Good, especially the solid versions, though it won't render well in monochrome printing. Jdforrester (talk) 18:07, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
    • If it pass to the later stages, i think i can make a solid color version that imitates same effect. --Serhio Magpie (talk) 19:18, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support I like Solid Yellow one. Ladsgroup (talk) 19:31, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Fan of the WMF translucent! --Izno (talk) 01:48, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Looks good, better if you can add the brackets somewhere. --DrizzleD (talk) 03:47, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Neutral Neutral These are strongest proposals on this page, but they don't scale well to smaller sizes (at the "Powered By" size, it looks a bit like a 40 tooth gear). While most of these variants would be an improvement on the old logo, I would Oppose Oppose using the Wikimedia colors.--Eloquence (talk) 04:07, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
    I agree, for a smaller size is needed to make a less detailed version. This is a very common practice. Serhio Magpie (talk) 04:38, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support I like version Wikimedia colors (translucent). --Smaug the Golden (talk - contributions - logs) 19:52, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose weak oppose Not super fan. Not bad, but very different from the original. Anthere (talk)
  • Support I like all of these. Matinee71 (talk) 06:35, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support I support all of these but would prefer one not using the Wikimedia colors. Ainali (talk) 09:57, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support I loved the simple idea and the best proposal so far. Joseagush (talk) 10:47, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support For the Wikimedia colors (translucent) . Veracious (talk) 02:19, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Once I read the BP comment, I can't see it as anything else. Guettarda (talk) 04:59, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support I like the solid versions.   ARASH PT  talk  18:04, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Looks a little too much like the BP Gas station logo to me.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:a000:121f:82cc:885b:d432:8c58:48ec (talkcontribs) 12:06, 27 June 2020
  • Oppose Oppose Another one that looks like a weird energy company logo, especially the variants that don't even have the yellow color in common with the current logo. No thanks. Anomie (talk) 21:04, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support I much prefer the translucent versions. Sdkb (talk) 07:15, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support, this one is much better. Wikisaurus (talk) 14:37, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support translucent versions, Neutral Neutral/Oppose Oppose on solid ones. There is still unease for me from MediaWiki, maybe, not owning the sunflower entirely, but at least the logo itself is really nice and the wordmark is not busy. Solid versions take away all the magic for me, so I am ambivalent towards them. stjn[ru] 17:02, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Although these options look professional and pretty, they seem too generic and commercial-looking. I wouldn't be able to recognize them from other logos. Case in point, I have to agree this looks like the BP logo. - Whisperjanes (talk) 05:50, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Solid yellow looks good, also support the prettier transclucent gradient secondarily, although that looks a bit BP-ish with Ubuntu colour style imo. --QEDK (talkenwiki) 05:56, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Solid yellow is a very nice solution. RichardHeigl (talk) 19:39, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong support Modern, simple, and meaningful.--Editor-1 (talk) 12:55, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Support, looks fine to me. —[[Hasley]] 13:18, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Support. Looks refreshing and neat. I do like translucent versions more than I do solid ones, though, and my favorite is the Wikimedia Colors one. Meiræ (talk) 21:33, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Support I must say this series of logos takes a little bit of time to get used to, but it looks quite modern. OhanaUnitedTalk page 05:47, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Support By far the best proposal of those presented, especially the translucent ones. Orderinchaos (talk) 17:40, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose looks like BP and too generic. DSwissK (talk) 13:44, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak support, really liked this one, however, I must agree that these look like BP's logo.--evrifaessa ❯❯❯ talk 06:58, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong support love this. Euvonia (talk) 07:08, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Gorgeous and eye catching. Love this. 161.249.147.124 22:07, 7 July 2020 (UTC) Gorgeous and eye catching. Love this. Nightenbelle (talk) 22:09, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose the non translucent-wikimedia colour versions. They're too generic in my mind and remind me of BP. I'm Neutral Neutral on the translucent wikimedia colour ones - that one at least feels special to us. Its not my fave proposal, but I definitely don't hate it. Bawolff (talk) 04:48, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong support This (or some variant) is both visually appealing, and the gradient styles get away from the prevailing completely flat aesthetic. All logos are going to be reminiscent of other logos (especially those made by people with training in visual and graphic design). Being too similar to an energy company design is probably better than being too similar to a school project using clipart. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 06:10, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Support I like the yellow versions the best since it feels like nothing has really changed (in spirit). –MJLTalk 17:13, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Support significant improvment to the current logo. Kruusamägi (talk) 09:45, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak support, as it one of the more visually appealing proposals on this list. ·addshore· talk to me! 15:01, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Support. —— Eric Liu留言百科用戶頁 12:20, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong support The colors are vibrant. The logos scale well. The variants are nice. Cantons-de-l'Est (talk) 18:15, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong support It is a very nice logo with its color and approach Jelican9 (talk) 18:43, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Valhallasw (talk) 17:35, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose bit too abstract & generic...we've lost the reference to the sunflower, also the shape is quite complex for small versions AHollender (WMF) (talk) 18:14, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Sam Wilson 22:52, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support That one looks nice! Vivi-1 (talk) 07:25, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak support I prefer the sunflower identity, which this loses, but this is slowly growing on me. Legoktm (talk) 11:03, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong support it's... nice, very nice --AlexKozur (talk) 17:04, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support very modern approach and clearly an attempt to create not only a logo, but a logo-system, as they call it. The "Yellow (solid)" is my favorite for MediaWiki specific replacement. My only concern that it is too complex and might not adapt well to all the uses and the scale. It definitely needs to go in the final short list. --Luca Mauri (talk) 19:44, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support the best option IMO. Ле Лой (talk) 22:42, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Fresh idea and nice design.--Draa kul (talk) 01:47, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Simple, pretty, easy to combine / vary, looks decent in small size. With the yellow palette, it's similar enough to the old logo to be recognizable. (Agree with others that the Wikimedia colors version looks good and might be useful in some contexts but is inappropriate for the base MediaWiki logo.) I'm not a fan of the lowercase wordmark but that's a fairly minor detail. --Tgr (talk) 21:27, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong support Refreshing, modern and still hints to the history of the sunflower. I love the colour variations that are possible. Would like to see alternatives with a filled middle. ~~ Forza ~~ (talk) 18:35, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose --[[kgh]] (talk) 17:48, 18 August 2020 (UTC) Ouch
  • Support -- DKinzler (WMF) (talk) 19:48, 19 August 2020 (UTC) (voting with my staff account by way of disclosure, not indicating wmf endorsement)
  • Oppose Oppose Matma Rex (talk) 21:27, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong Support Cody3647 (talk) 21:21, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Support -- Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 05:43, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Geertivp (talk) 07:40, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose It reminds me of something, many things... Adamw (talk) 14:12, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Tufor (talk) 23:24, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
  • SupportMarcoAurelio (talk) 10:11, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Support ~ Nahid Talk 14:15, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Why not? --Martin Urbanec (talk) 21:42, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Support 1989 (talk) 23:05, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Sohom data (talk) 07:28, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Support I am not overly enthusiastic about this, but at least it looks better than all the alternatives (save keeping the status quo). Ammarpad (talk) 07:35, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Support but I'd really like to retain the brackets. ImprovedWikiImprovment (talk) 21:35, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Seems like a nice refresh and easy to theme depending on context (like with the WMF colors). TK-999 (talk) 17:05, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Comments (6)[edit]

  • It looks a little like the BP logo, no? Yaron Koren (talk) 21:00, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
    • Only to the extent any two stylized round flower logos would look similar. --Tgr (talk) 21:27, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
  • I like the proposal, but it would be necessary to work on smaller sizes as well. Would recommend to show how that variant would work out with some applications. --Volker E. (WMF) (talk) 16:02, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
  • I like the third one but I'm slightly worried we might end up with another wikivoyage situation Ladsgroup (talk) 15:11, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
    @Iniquity:. A while back community decided on a new logo for wikivoyage but it was really similar to logo of w:WTO, and WMF received a letter of cease and desist from WTO to stop using that logo so they had to go with the second most popular logo (the current one). I don't want BP sending us a similar letter. Ladsgroup (talk) 22:00, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
    Oh, thanks for the clarification. I think in this case it does not threaten, since the logos are quite different. Iniquity (talk) 22:02, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
  • I like this one with the Wikimedia colours, but do we want to visually tie MediaWiki to the Wikimedia movement? There's a point in having a more Wikimedia-neutral logo. /Julle (talk) 13:21, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
    This question interests me too, I hope someone answers it :) Iniquity (talk) 21:02, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
    I would recommmend avoiding the Wikimedia colors. 1) As has been noted, the MediaWiki/Wikimedia/Wikipedia branding is confusing enough as it is. 2) MediaWiki should be understood to have value outside the Wikimedia context. 3) Given current branding discussions, there's a lot of uncertainty about the future of the Wikimedia brand, and if there are no strong assurances that it's going to stick around, this color palette could paint MediaWiki into a corner. 4) It's just not a very friendly, inviting palette. If there's one property of the old logo that may be worth preserving, it's that it's bright and cheerful.--Eloquence (talk) 04:07, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
    Thanks for the clarification :) In my opinion, the colors should carry some meanings, mood, and identity. The colors of movement carry at least identity. But if we push the MediaWiki out of the movement, then we need to think about the meanings of colors. Iniquity (talk) 22:44, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
    I wouldn't say we're pushing it out of the movement, merely that unlike the Wikimedia-specific projects, it also has a wider use. Not using the Wikimedia palette would be maintaining the status quo, using it would be a change. /Julle (talk) 14:02, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Nice design but there are too many petals. Can you provide a black and white version? --Afnecors (talk) 15:32, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
    Added b&w versions. --Serhio Magpie (talk) 00:24, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Fresh, beautiful, recognizable!--Ferdi2005 (talk) 20:25, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
  • I sent an email to legal asking their opinion about the similarity with BP logo Ladsgroup (talk) 23:17, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Uh, Ubuntu? --Yair rand (talk) 23:21, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Also, re using the Wikimedia colors: Something to keep in mind is that, while connected branding has some pluses, using the colors in too many logos can look really ugly. --Yair rand (talk) 23:23, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Proposal seven[edit]

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Small size: Mediawiki logo combined proposal 1 and 2 brackets.svg

Votes (7)[edit]

  • Oppose Oppose Still too heavy; the double-bracket merger is nice, but I prefer to not have them at all. Jdforrester (talk) 18:07, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose --Smaug the Golden (talk - contributions - logs) 19:42, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Too large. Veracious (talk) 02:20, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Another sunflower-biodiesel logo. Anomie (talk) 21:06, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Neutral Neutral I like this best of the designs with brackets retained, but I agree that they overpower the sunflower. Sdkb (talk) 07:17, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose AHollender (WMF) (talk) 18:14, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Sam Wilson 22:52, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak support If we want to keep the existing logo conceptually, this does a decent job of that. Not a fan of the lowercase wordmark, but it's a minor detail. --Tgr (talk) 21:27, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak support This is a good alternative if we should stick with the sunflower. I think that Capitalisation is important. MediaWiki. ~~ Forza ~~ (talk) 18:37, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose --[[kgh]] (talk) 17:48, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Matma Rex (talk) 21:27, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Cody3647 (talk) 21:21, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak support -- Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 05:41, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Ammarpad (talk) 06:50, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Comments (7)[edit]

I dont like these brackets :( They are too big and massive. Iniquity (talk) 19:04, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
Even such brackets?
Small size variation: MediaWiki logo combined extended 1 crop.svg
Carn (talk) 19:10, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
Yes, these brackets are better, thanks :) Iniquity (talk) 19:12, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Proposal eight[edit]

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Files Legacy Vector New Vector
Mediawiki logo combined proposal 1 and 2.svg Mediawiki logo combined proposal 1 and 2 - without wordmark.svg Mediawiki logo combined proposal 1 and 2 - wordmark.svg Mediawiki logo combined proposal 1 and 2 - without wordmark.svg Mediawiki logo combine proposal 1 and 2 - in use vector.png Mediawiki logo combine proposal 1 and 2 - in use modern vector.png

Votes (8)[edit]

  • Support Ladsgroup (talk) 16:30, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose as stated above in a related discussion, I think the core of the flower should be in brown or dark brown, not in blue. Also, not a fan of removing the brackets. Huji (talk) 17:21, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose The double-band in the centre makes this slightly too heavy. Jdforrester (talk) 18:07, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Maybe it's suitable for a renewable-energy company logo. Veracious (talk)
  • Oppose Oppose Another sunflower-biodiesel logo. Anomie (talk) 21:07, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support, similar to proposal one. I'm fine with the blue center. Sdkb (talk) 07:19, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Sam Wilson 22:52, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support A good attempt at an abstract version of the current logo (minus the brackers, but I don't mind abandoning those). Not a fan of the lowercase wordmark but it's a minor detail. --Tgr (talk) 21:27, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Very nice. Like it. ~~ Forza ~~ (talk) 18:38, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support --[[kgh]] (talk) 17:49, 18 August 2020 (UTC) CamelCase pls, script pls
  • Oppose Oppose Matma Rex (talk) 21:27, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Cody3647 (talk) 21:21, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Support -- Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 05:40, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Ammarpad (talk) 06:51, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Comments (8)[edit]

Proposal nine[edit]

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Designer: Linz Lim

This is a simplified version of the current logo that many have grown attached to.

Vector Vector modern SVG (square) SVG (wordmark version)
Mock up of MediaWiki logo proposal by LL.png Mock up of MediaWiki logo in current Vector modern skin by LL.png MediaWiki Logo proposal by LL (option 1).svg Proposal for new MediaWiki Logo by LL option 1 wordmark svg.svg


Votes (9)[edit]

  • Oppose Oppose Too fussy, indeed. Jdforrester (talk) 18:07, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Weak Oppose Exciting, intricate design. Would be great in an art collection, however for a logo it's loaded. —Aron Man.🍂 edits🌾 23:03, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose --Smaug the Golden (talk - contributions - logs) 19:43, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose The font is nice, though. Veracious (talk) 02:24, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose The sunflower seems too abstracted. At least it keeps the brackets and avoids the particularly weird font too many other proposals here have. Anomie (talk) 21:08, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Too intricate, and the colors aren't balanced well. Sdkb (talk) 07:20, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose way to detailed- not good for smaller screens or instant recognize-ability. Nightenbelle (talk) 22:10, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose too busy. Bawolff (talk) 04:36, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Too complex of a design to work as a logo, at least here. Glades12 (talk) 10:36, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose +1 Glades12. Cantons-de-l'Est (talk) 18:05, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose AHollender (WMF) (talk) 18:14, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Sam Wilson 22:52, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support -- MichaelSchoenitzer (talk) 23:43, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak support I like the design but I agree it's more busy than ideal for a logo. --Tgr (talk) 21:27, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose --[[kgh]] (talk) 17:50, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Matma Rex (talk) 21:27, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Cody3647 (talk) 21:21, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose nice idea, but complex to serve as a logo. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 21:42, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Too florid. Ammarpad (talk) 06:56, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Comments (9)[edit]

  • too many lines of different thicknesses create a sloppy feeling. Carn (talk) 19:11, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
  • It seems to me that there are too many small details on this entire three logos. What do you think? Iniquity (talk) 10:10, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Proposal 10[edit]

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Designer: Linz Lim

Through a ring of external brackets [ ] [ ] [ ], the circles in the center symbolize our internal organization (top view of heads), bridging with the outside world.

The double brackets from the current logo are used on MediaWiki .

Vector Vector modern SVG (square) SVG (wordmark version)
MediaWiki logo proposal for Vector option 10 Vector legacy mock.png MediaWiki logo proposal 10 mock screenshot in modern Vector.png MediaWiki Logo proposal by LL option 2 icon.svg MediaWiki Logo proposal by LL option 2.svg


Votes (10)[edit]

  • Support as proposer. Am open to future iterations. Jdlrobson (talk) 19:27, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support I like this one. Ladsgroup (talk) 00:58, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Neutral Neutral Maybe; a but busy. Jdforrester (talk) 18:07, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose I see a cog and a gear, but no sunflower. —Aron Man.🍂 edits🌾 23:00, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose --Smaug the Golden (talk - contributions - logs) 19:45, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Sorry, it looks like a corona virus with extended petal. Veracious (talk) 02:25, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Too abstracted, weird font with brackets that are darker than the text itself. Anomie (talk) 21:09, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose I like the creative use of brackets for the logo image, but it's too intricate and won't look good at a small scale. Sdkb (talk) 07:21, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Neat concept, but does not translate well to a logo. Nightenbelle (talk) 22:10, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Support It's getting a bad rep here, but it's still pretty neat. –MJLTalk 17:21, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Support. I like the combination of 'community' with square brackets. Valhallasw (talk) 17:35, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose AHollender (WMF) (talk) 18:14, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Sam Wilson 22:52, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak support I could live with this, but it feels a bit too clever - lots of elements and almost no one will be able to interpret them. --Tgr (talk) 21:27, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose --[[kgh]] (talk) 17:50, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Matma Rex (talk) 21:27, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Cody3647 (talk) 21:21, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Too florid, similar to #Proposal nine and the text color, in this case, may probably not pass accessibility test. Ammarpad (talk) 07:01, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Comments (10)[edit]

  • Small elements on the end of brackets are not adaptive and creates insect visual connotation.Carn (talk) 19:08, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
  • I like brackets around mediawiki not around flower. Iniquity (talk) 19:58, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Some elements are nice, but brackets with same color as a middle part resemble a coronavirus. --Serhio Magpie (talk) 20:01, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
  • I kind of like the idea, but I think there is not enough contrast between background and yellow petals, or maybe too much contrast between the petals and the blue lines(?). Bawolff (talk) 04:37, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Proposal 11[edit]

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Designer: Linz Lim

One bracket [ ] is rotated 90 degrees against another bracket [ ] to create the core of the sunflower and symbolize the intertwined nature of shared data. With no overlapping elements, this simplified logo can easily be used to produce swags such as one-color silkscreen print on various surfaces, embroidery, emboss/deboss etc.

Vector Vector modern SVG (square) SVG (wordmark version)
MediaWiki logo proposal 11 mock screenshot in Vector.png MediaWiki logo proposal, Vector current screenshot option 2 LL.png MediaWiki Logo proposal by LL option 3 icon.svg MediaWiki Logo proposal by LL option 3.svg
Some additional variants of the same logo.

Votes (11)[edit]

  • Oppose Oppose - it's a jail. Carn (talk) 19:05, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support as proposer. Am open to future iterations. Jdlrobson (talk) 19:27, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Neutral Neutral Maybe; a but busy. Jdforrester (talk) 18:07, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak Support Exciting design idea. It could do with a bit more color and less contrast. —Aron Man.🍂 edits🌾 23:06, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose --Smaug the Golden (talk - contributions - logs) 19:45, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support In my opinion the absolute best from Linz' proposals (number 9, 10, and 11). Just needs a little more contrast. --Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE) 12:13, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Neutral Neutral Veracious (talk) 02:26, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Another energy company logo, with the font issues from #10 too. Anomie (talk) 21:10, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Neutral Neutral I like the creative bracket placement, but I have some concerns about how it'd look at small scale, and the blue overpowers the yellow. Sdkb (talk) 07:23, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose: I think that when people try to add new elements both to the logo and to the wordmark, they fail both. Flower is nicer than version 1, for example (maybe without the centre elements), but wordmark makes it way too busy. stjn[ru] 17:00, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Neutral Neutral I like this the best of all options so far, but the cross hatching in the middle seems out of place. The font choice also seems to be too thin, and I think could be hard to read as a logo. - Whisperjanes (talk) 05:57, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose I don't like the center of the sunflower. It looks slightly like a swastika to me (I know it literally doesn't, but my eyes kind of seem to see it as such somehow). Bawolff (talk) 04:40, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Sam Wilson 22:52, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose The color palette is imho too bright to stand out from the background. The shape feels more resembling of an eye of Providence, or some form of constraint/lock mechanism. Krinkle (talk) 15:27, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak support Like the previous one, it looks good but feels a bit too clever. Also while in theory I like the idea of moving the braces to the wordmark, it's unconventional for logos, and does not match the Wikimedia logos. --Tgr (talk) 21:27, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak support --[[kgh]] (talk) 17:51, 18 August 2020 (UTC) MediaWiki and brackets need to be worked on
  • Oppose Oppose Matma Rex (talk) 21:27, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Cody3647 (talk) 21:21, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Support -- Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 05:39, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Tufor (talk) 23:24, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Ammarpad (talk) 07:03, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Comments (11)[edit]

Proposal 12[edit]

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Small size: MediaWiki logo proposal 2020 - cartoon.png

Designer: Yaron Koren

This logo is not perfectly spaced out or symmetrical, which is on purpose, because I wanted it to be a little cartoony-looking. Still, this is really more a "proof of concept" than some kind of final draft.

Votes (12)[edit]

  • Neutral Neutral Veracious (talk) 02:56, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Weak oppose Add brackets and a center that doesn't look like a chocolate chip cookie, and this might be ok. Anomie (talk) 21:12, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Sorry, but I was going to say the inside looks like a chocolate chip cookie even before I saw Anomie's !vote. And it's too skeuomorphic. Sdkb (talk) 07:25, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Neutral Neutral Good concept but needs further improvement. MichaelSchoenitzer (talk) 15:10, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Neutral Neutral Less petals and rounded ends ? Cantons-de-l'Est (talk) 17:59, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Sam Wilson 22:52, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak support of the concept, weak oppose on the implementation. Legoktm (talk) 11:05, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Neutral Neutral I'm fine with having just a sunflower as the logo (although I prefer the more abstract versions) but this has a kind of childrens-book quality to it. --Tgr (talk) 21:27, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose --[[kgh]] (talk) 17:53, 18 August 2020 (UTC) One with the dignity of camel casing MediaWiki. The rest is ...
  • Oppose Oppose Matma Rex (talk) 21:27, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Cody3647 (talk) 21:21, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Ammarpad (talk) 07:04, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Comments (12)[edit]

  • @Yaron Koren: I like how you are thinking out of the box here. One thing that is common among all above options (including yours) is that the petals of the flower are quite pointy. Maybe also explore an option similar to this: https://www.creativefabrica.com/product/sun-flower-logo-3/ where the petals ends are more round? Huji (talk) 17:24, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
    • Ooh, that one is pretty cool. Rounded petals could give it a more abstract feel, which could be good (though not as abstract as that logo you linked to). This one is more of a proof-of-concept, so I don't know if it's worth doing variations on it, but we'll see. Yaron Koren (talk) 17:34, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  • A honeybee is missing from this logo ;-) —Aron Man.🍂 edits🌾 23:08, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Well this isn't quite all the way there, I do kind of like the idea and would be interested in seeing variants of this design. Bawolff (talk) 04:41, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Proposal 13[edit]

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Files Legacy Vector New Vector
Mediawiki logo flat 2020.svg MediaWiki logo flat text.svg Screenshot Mediawiki flat vector.png Screenshot Mediawiki flat new vector.png
MediaWiki logo flat notext upd.svg MediaWiki logo flat text upd.svg Screenshot Mediawiki flat vector upd.png Screenshot Mediawiki flat new vector upd.png
Carn (talk) 20:10, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Votes (13)[edit]

Mediawiki logo flat 2020.svg — small logo. I think it's worth considering. Carn (talk) 20:10, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Support Small and clear Kasyap (talk) 05:17, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Weak oppose I like how abstract this is, and the single bracket is also a good way to simplify the current logo. What I don't like is the color gradient. I feel like gradients are out of style and kind of 20th century. Huji (talk) 15:24, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
    Yes, this is rather a principal idea, there was no serious work on colors. Carn (talk) 06:23, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose While I love the idea and execution, this one relies way to heavy on color alone. --Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE) 12:08, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Per Thiemo Kreuz. Veracious (talk) 02:33, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose I see Mediowiki, especially given the big circle which reinforced the idea that the sense that this is an O. Guettarda (talk) 04:53, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Weird eyeball? Version with brackets doesn't have the right number, and version without looks like the icon for a smartphone camera app. Anomie (talk) 21:13, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Oversimplified, and gives off some techno-dystopian HAL 9000-but-yellow vibes. Sdkb (talk) 07:27, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose, ужас какой. Фред-Продавец звёзд (talk) 22:29, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong support I love that one. Simple yet effective. DSwissK (talk) 13:45, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose - sorry, it feels like some HAL 9000/eye of mordor type thing watching me. Bawolff (talk) 04:42, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Unfortunately reminds me of goatse.cx (Q937781). FWIW. --Izno (talk) 18:52, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose It creeps me out. –MJLTalk 17:16, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Not even recognisable as a sunflower; also has a strange number of brackets (an external link?). Glades12 (talk) 10:14, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose HAL 9000, or a "sibling", is watching... Cantons-de-l'Est (talk) 18:03, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose AHollender (WMF) (talk) 18:14, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Sam Wilson 22:52, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Pretty, but as others said, most people would associate it with an eyeball or camera rather than a sunflower and that's a bit opposed to our brand. I don't get the second variant at all (is that a coffee mug?). --Tgr (talk) 21:27, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose Looks like a cookie. Does not appeal to me or remind me of MediaWiki. ~~ Forza ~~ (talk) 18:41, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose --[[kgh]] (talk) 17:54, 18 August 2020 (UTC) HAL 9000?
  • Oppose Oppose Matma Rex (talk) 21:27, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Strong oppose Cody3647 (talk) 21:21, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Why the change at the i letter? --Martin Urbanec (talk) 21:44, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Ammarpad (talk) 07:27, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Comments (13)[edit]

It is the intresting idea with circle in single brakets :) Iniquity (talk) 20:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
These are two different logos, they must not be used at the same time. Carn (talk) 20:20, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
Personal associations: Portal. GLaDOS. GLaDOS through a Portal. —Aron Man.🍂 edits🌾 23:09, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Proposal 14[edit]

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Designer: Luana Faustini

Files Legacy Vector
MediaWiki proposal number 14 vertical logo MediaWiki proposal number 14 horizontal logo Mediawiki placed.png
Igorabsorto (talk) 20:52, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Votes (14)[edit]

  • Support as proposer. Igorabsorto (talk) 20:52, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Ainali (talk) 09:55, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support I like it Ladsgroup (talk) 10:52, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support I'm guessing some may not like this because it does away with the sunflower. But I think this is a good abstraction of the "MediaWiki" concept: both shows an M, and shows the brackets (which are characteristic of wiki code). Huji (talk) 12:01, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Love it. Simple, unique. I think I have never seen anything alike. --Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE) 12:05, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support This one is "wow"! And so clever: M, W, brackets, readability at all sizes, I love it. --Wikinade (talk) 19:03, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Neutral Neutral It's a professionally done design, but the lines and angles, with only open space to ease the tension, make this logo feel a bit cold and businesslike to me, lacking the emotional quality of a logo that incorporates references to nature, growth, or humanity. With no offense intended to the designer or anyone else's interpretation of the logo, for me it has the emotional echoes of nationalism (e.g., the Chilean FNPL logo) and commerce (e.g., the Deutsche Bank logo).---Eloquence (talk) 19:26, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support I like it --Nehaoua (talk) 00:11, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support looks like gmail, but so what ... --ThurnerRupert (talk) 00:12, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Finally, a whole new logo design. Veracious (talk) 02:29, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose I find it bland and unmemorable. It looks like some lines to me, but unless you point it out I don't see an M or a W. Maybe an N. Maybe some pipes? Guettarda (talk) 04:50, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Strong oppose Is this an email app? I agree with Eloquence. Anomie (talk) 21:16, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support one of the few professionally executed, clean and modern logos without extra details on this page.Carn (talk) 06:32, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support I like the use of brackets and creative M/W combo, and it's certainly unique. The loss of the sunflower, which was never a super potent symbol, is no big one. I'm not wedded to the font for the wordmark (we might want to go with the wordmark from proposal one or six, even if we adopt this visual), and I'd also like to see what this would look like with WikiMedia colors. Sdkb (talk) 07:32, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support MBH (talk) 16:01, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose: from brackets to... broken paper clips? I commend the author’s effort, but I really do not like the symbolism and, apart from that, it is not unique or interesting. stjn[ru] 16:56, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support I never liked the sun flower. DarwIn (talk) 17:45, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support --QEDK (talkenwiki) 21:44, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Neutral Neutral. Very interesting idea for "MW" logo. Like! But symbol of MediaWiki is sunflower. Фред-Продавец звёзд (talk) 22:35, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose per Eloquence.  Majavah talk · edits 17:56, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose Anthere (talk)
  • Strong oppose Too businesslike, too distant from the original sunflower.--Ferdi2005 (talk) 20:26, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Looks nice imo. Symphonium264 (talk) 03:53, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose Business-like.--Editor-1 (talk) 12:40, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose alhtough a nice design overall, I have to agree that it gives sufficient email vibes as to be distracting. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 07:34, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak support Good abstraction. I like the sun flower though... Maybe too different from what we've got now. DSwissK (talk) 13:47, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Support I like this one.--HakanIST (talk) 10:52, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak support I don't hate this- I do feel its too close to email, but all in all- not a bad look. Nightenbelle (talk) 22:12, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose Interesting. I worry it won't be recognizable enough from any sort of distance though. Bawolff (talk) 04:43, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
Weak oppose, logo has significant similarities with Weblium. Serhio Magpie (talk) 16:44, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak support, as it one of the more visually appealing proposals on this list. ·addshore· talk to me! 15:00, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Clever : can be read as M, W or a logo. It's language neutral for speakers who don't use the Latin alphabet. Cantons-de-l'Est (talk) 17:57, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Valhallasw (talk) 17:35, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose we've lost the personality of the original brand here AHollender (WMF) (talk) 18:14, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Sam Wilson 22:52, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Does not reflect MW IMO. Vivi-1 (talk) 07:27, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose This shape and color connotates with office supply materials to me. It also seems too far away from our brand identity. Krinkle (talk) 15:24, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Neutral Neutral A clever idea, well executed, but it abandons the old brand completely, and doesn't really replace it with anything MediaWiki-specific (the brackets are a clever touch but will be lost on most viewers).If we abandon the old logo metaphor completely, there are probably better options. --Tgr (talk) 21:27, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose Too neutral and anonymous. Doesn't connect with me. It is also not standing out and seems lost amongst text ~~ Forza ~~ (talk) 18:43, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Neutral Neutral --[[kgh]] (talk) 17:55, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Matma Rex (talk) 21:27, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Cody3647 (talk) 21:21, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Support -- Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 05:37, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Support -- Simple, strong, scaleable; reminds me of what went into competition and reworking of Canadian National Railway logo, which I love (see https://www.cn.ca/en/media/trademark-licensing/ for details on its history and design); possibly lines could be heavier
  • Strong oppose - Too different. I don't want to see something as drastically different as this. We must retain a sunflower design, ideally with brackets if we are going to change at all. ImprovedWikiImprovment (talk) 21:37, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Comments (14)[edit]

A good attempt, but it seems to me that the logo is similar to the letter N :) Iniquity (talk) 22:45, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
  • This is pretty clever - there's an "M" and a "W" and brackets and symmetry, all with just a few lines. I'm not sure if I like it as the MediaWiki logo, but I certainly admire the thinking that went into it. Yaron Koren (talk) 22:49, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
  • We can make the color #36c or #2a4b8d (or any shade of blue in this direction) to align with the color palette. The color doesn't signify anything right now. Ladsgroup (talk) 12:33, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
    • Ladsgroup, I spoke with the designer and she confirmed that the color being used is #2a4b8d. It is possible, maybe, that in thin lines the shade appears different?
      • User:Igorabsorto. Oh thanks. I couldn't see it because they are png. Can you replace the first and the second pictures with SVG? Thanks! Ladsgroup (talk) 17:48, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
        • Ladsgroup replaced PNG logos with their SVG versions. Also note that the designer reduced slightly the empty space between the logo and the word on the horizontal version.
With Mediawiki colors - Sdkb (talk)
  • Here's one configuration of what it might look like with Wikimedia colors. I'm not sure how I feel about it compared to all-blue, or whether it might be better with the blue/green/red switched around. Sdkb (talk) 07:51, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • I have been thinking that having a double bracket variant would make it more recognizable. Ladsgroup (talk) 22:17, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Proposal 15[edit]

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Designer: Luana Faustini

Files Legacy Vector
Mediawiki flower vert.png Mediawiki flower horiz.png Mediawiki flower placed.png
Igorabsorto (talk) 20:52, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Votes (15)[edit]

  • Support as proposer. Igorabsorto (talk) 20:52, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support --ThurnerRupert (talk) 00:12, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose looks like the Walmart logo. Veracious (talk) 02:31, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose} - I agree, it looks like Walmart. Guettarda (talk) 04:43, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Another boring energy company logo. Wrong number of brackets. Anomie (talk) 21:16, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Weak oppose the petals are too perfect and don't come across as natural. Sdkb (talk) 07:35, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose, кошмар. Фред-Продавец звёзд (talk) 22:36, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Anomie and Guettarda said it well. I am starting to feel less and less obligated to keep the sunflower in our logo. Huji (talk) 14:58, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Yep, looks like Walmart. Glades12 (talk) 10:30, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose it does look like Walmart AHollender (WMF) (talk) 18:14, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Sam Wilson 22:52, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Krinkle (talk) 15:22, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak support A decent stylization of the old logo. I like some of the other variants better though. --Tgr (talk) 21:27, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose --[[kgh]] (talk) 17:55, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Matma Rex (talk) 21:27, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Cody3647 (talk) 21:21, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Support -- Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 05:36, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Ammarpad (talk) 06:20, 7 September 2020 (UTC) 06:19, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Comments (15)[edit]

Proposal 16[edit]

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Files Legacy Vector Modern Vector
concept MediaWiki logo tophalf reworked.svg MediaWiki logo tophalf reworked side.svg MediaWiki logo tophalf reworked powered button.svg MediaWiki logo tophalf reworked Screenshot.png MediaWiki logo tophalf reworked side Screenshot.png
Carn (talk) 19:24, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Votes (16)[edit]

MediaWiki logo tophalf reworked mini.svg — small logo. Carn (talk) 19:37, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Loses the sunflower and brackets for weird gradient text and a flaming blackhole sunrise? Anomie (talk) 21:18, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
    See "We are currently gathering and discussing ideas for a change to the Mediawiki logo" above. At present, it’s important not to narrow our task for preparing the logo, but to try more different logos, including new options in the expectation that some of the ideas will be supported enough to develop it further (proposals 1, 3, 6, 14 for now).

    I also expressed my associations in the sections above, but in addition to what I do not like, I also talked about what I like. I hear from you "boring" (one can offer you to learn to entertain yourself if you feel boring), also - "weird", "hate this", with en:WP:DONTFIXIT argumentation, ignoring all the arguments that represent evidence of a real problem with the outdated logo. It would be better if others would know what you like besides identity, yellow color, double brackets (many participants oppose to brackets, which is why I did not include them in several options), and thin font maybe? Carn (talk) 06:30, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

    Most of the arguments I see above for changing the logo seem to come down to "it's not a trendy flat-look logo"; the only real arguments against the current logo I see in the lead are that a bitmap is hard to scale well. I'd like to see more attempts along the lines of 5 or 3 or a fixed 12, that don't go for a super-abstracted rendering. And yes, I see the brackets as part of the identity, despite the slow rise in VE usage where brackets aren't so obvious. It seems the brackets are a bit tricky to get right: they need to be present but not overpowering. Even #3 seems to have brackets that are a little too much. As far as fonts, I don't really care for the all-lowercase renderings and the dots on the "i"s in e.g. #1 look particularly strange. #5 looks good to me font-wise, while e.g. #3 has an odd "M" and e.g. #12 seems a bit low on the x-height. I don't actually care for the thin fonts (e.g. #9). The all-caps as in #3 or #16 isn't bad, but I prefer the mixed-case (or maybe a version with small-caps could be tried).

    P.S. I don't see you saying much of anything about what you like, just that you like certain designs. Mostly you seem to be pushing against having much detail. Anomie (talk) 14:04, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
    Thank you for detailed answer! I tried to show what I like in my proposals, but i should talk about it too, you're right. Carn (talk) 15:10, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Chopping off the sunflower in the middle looks weird here, and gives it buzzsaw vibes. Sdkb (talk) 07:37, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Much better version Ircpresident (talk) 14:08, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Neutral Neutral not sure I'm sold on this, but i do kind of like the idea of the sunflower sunset, and the small version is quite good at being recognizable. Bawolff (talk) 04:45, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Still needs some improvement, but good as a starting point. MichaelSchoenitzer (talk) 15:15, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
    Thank you. There is some moot in fonts and colors that asking to advise some changes. Any ideas welcome. Carn (talk) 16:16, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Sam Wilson 22:52, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Krinkle (talk) 15:22, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose I don't really like the looks (although it does work well for the "powered by" box). Also that gradient wordmark. --Tgr (talk) 21:27, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose --[[kgh]] (talk) 17:56, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Matma Rex (talk) 21:27, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Cody3647 (talk) 21:21, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Rely heavily on color contrast. The black hole is also not helping matters here Ammarpad (talk) 14:29, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose --Martin Urbanec (talk) 21:45, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Comments (16)[edit]

Proposal 17[edit]

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MediaWiki proposal number 17
Vedmaka (talk) 09:33, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Comments (17)[edit]

Votes (17)[edit]

  • Support - Though a late entry to this list, I really like this option. It captures aspects of the original, whilst being more modern. It's also visually distinct from any logos I've come across and eschews the currently dominant flat colouring of many contemporary logos. It also works well at small scales. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 10:47, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Support - 10/10 for the logo, 0/10 for text color :) --Euvonia (talk) 22:11, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose To me this logo says "Firefox", not "MediaWiki". Anomie (talk) 11:38, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose It's nice, but relies to much on color and won't work in black and white. --Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE) 13:15, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose I also think of Firefox when I look at this AHollender (WMF) (talk) 18:14, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Sam Wilson 22:52, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak support (except for the wordmark font/color which clearly needs improvement). I like the idea, a bit too far from the sunflower metaphor though. If we abandon that completely, there are probably better options. --Tgr (talk) 21:27, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Oppose Mozilla Firefox's wiki system.--Ferdi2005 (talk) 19:41, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose --[[kgh]] (talk) 17:56, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Matma Rex (talk) 21:27, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Very nice logo but the symbolism is far-fetched from MediaWiki's, therefore I wouldn't bet on this one. —Aron Man.🍂 edits🌾 22:15, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Support I like the idea of reducing to two petals, although I agree that the wordmark has too little contrast with the yellow. Sdkb (talk) 07:55, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Strong oppose Cody3647 (talk) 21:21, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Ammarpad (talk) 06:17, 7 September 2020 (UTC)