MediaWiki talk:Sidebar/Archive 02/Flow export

If you're looking for help on editing the sidebar on your project, go to Manual:Interface/Sidebar please.

Translations into Japanese

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I request you to translate the messages as followings.

Browse categories

カテゴリを閲覧

Tech blog

技術ブログ

Current issues

最近の話題

Support

サポート

⧼manual-text⧽

技術マニュアル

⧼FAQ⧽

よくある質問と回答

Support desk

サポートデスク

Download

ダウンロード

⧼mediawiki⧽

MediaWikiを入手

⧼extensions⧽

拡張機能を入手

Development

開発

⧼bugtracker⧽

バグ追跡

Download from SVN

SVNからダウンロード

⧼codereview⧽

コードの変更を閲覧

⧼codecomments⧽

コードのコメント

⧼browse svn⧽

SVNを閲覧

Code statistics

SVN統計

Code docs

コードのドキュメント

Communication

コミュニケーション

⧼Mailing lists⧽

メーリングリスト

Thanks. --aokomoriuta 22:05, 13 February 2011 (UTC) 02:38, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Done Krinkle 23:20, 13 February 2011 (UTC) 02:39, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Usefull, just using it. Thank you 61.198.221.144 19:22, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Please update Japanese translation as follows:

User help

利用者向けヘルプ

Code review

コードレビュー

⧼browse repo⧽

レポジトリを閲覧

Communication

その他

Thank you. aokomoriuta (talk) 15:10, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

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Portuguese translation

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Could you also translate the texts for pt-br?

Browse categories

Ver categorias

Tech blog

Blog técnico da Wikimedia

Current issues

Questões atuais

Support

Ajuda

⧼manual-text⧽

Manual técnico

⧼FAQ⧽

Perguntas frequentes

⧼mediawiki⧽

Baixar o MediaWiki

⧼extensions⧽

Baixar extensões

Development

Desenvolvimento

Download from SVN

Baixar a partir do SVN

⧼codereview⧽

Ver mudanças no código

⧼codecomments⧽

Comentários sobre o código

⧼browse svn⧽

Ver SVN

Code statistics

Estatísticas para o SVN

Code docs

Documentação do código

Communication

Comunicação

⧼Mailing lists⧽

Listas de discussão Helder 12:20, 14 February 2011 (UTC) 02:39, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Done wargo 16:56, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

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Polish translation

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Edit links:

• MediaWiki:mw-help-url/pl to Help:Contents/pl
• MediaWiki:mw-manual-url/pl to Manual:Contents/pl
• MediaWiki:mw-faq-url/pl to Manual:FAQ/pl --Wargo 08:29, 29 July 2011 (UTC) 02:40, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Done Peachey88 02:40, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

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Rename section for consistency

On 2006 the name of the first section of the sidebar was changed from "navigation" to "navigation (this wiki)" and in 2007 to "site".

Could someone change that back to "navigation" for consistency with other wikis? This would improve the compatibility of scripts (such as this, and these) which assume there is a 'p-navigation' section in the sidebar. Helder 13:52, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Its been awhile but i thought you could override the header to the side-bar through JS. In essence customizing it to your site design. Goldbishop 14:02, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

My intention is not to change the text (from MediaWiki:Site) which is displayed in some skins, but instead to change the "id" of the first section from id="p-site" to id="p-navigation", which is the usual id of that section. For that, I think it is enough to move MediaWiki:Site to MediaWiki:Navigation and to update the message name on MediaWiki:Sidebar from "site" to "navigation". Helder 20:05, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Let me do some more research about this but i thought i remembered there being a Common.CSS and a Common.js add to allow for the renaming of the section headers for SideBar, Site, or Navigation. Again, its been awhile so i will have to refind the information.

I understand what you are requesting, its just that it will most likely have to be done through the Common articles to avoid skin conflicts, potentially. Goldbishop 20:53, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Its been awhile but i thought you could override the header to the side-bar through JS[http://www.okawards.com .] In essence customizing it to your site design. 222.12.151.21 19:19, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

It is not the header which I want to change, it is only the id (to be the same as in other wikis). Helder 17:33, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

the id is really only used for CSS-styling. If you want to change the style of the Menu then you need to change the CSS. Otherwise you will need to hack the source of the site and edit it there. 68.186.178.253 00:10, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Done This has been changed back to 'navigation.' ^demon (talk) 13:50, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! =D Helder 21:44, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Add Current issues?

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Current issues should be in the sidebar. There's presently no link to a place where the issues of this wiki are discussed. The SD is now just for MW support.

(Also, Help, FAQ, and the manual could be better combined somehow.) Sj (talk) 16:19, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Could be placed in "communication", or a new section "community" could be created, either incorporating communication or just moving some useless links out from top section: surely RC and community portal, perhaps also categories. Nemo 22:22, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

I see that nowadays Communication is mostly a duplicate of Mailing lists and MediaWiki on IRC, with the additional problem that being a separate section it's collapsed on Vector and that only people who already know about mailing list (few) and IRC (very few) understand why they should be interested in them.

I think that ML and IRC should be removed; download and communication merged to navigation; and categories, community portal, recent changes moved to a new "mediawiki.org" section to which we could then add current issues. I'll do so in a few days if nobody disagrees. Nemo 16:45, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. Sj (talk) 14:42, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

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Download

I just noticed opening the wiki while logged out that on Vector the "Download" section is collapsed. This doesn't make any sense to me, is there any way to uncollapse it? Nemo 22:26, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

add messages

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hi please add messages for

• • mw-download-url|mw-download
  • mw-extensions-url|mw-extensions 90.202.209.59 19:18, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

We are aware of this issue and we are currently working on a fix. TeleComNasSprVen (talk) 22:54, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

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How to contribute and Wikimedia Engineering

Hi. I just added two links to the sidebar: How to contribute in the main section, and Wikimedia Engineering in the "Development" section.

How to contribute has become our main landing page for people interested in contributing to tech activities. It's linked to from the main page, but I'm guessing that many people arrive on mediawiki.org via other pages, so I think there's value in also adding it to the sidebar. I put it in the top section because it's not just about development.

Wikimedia Engineering is now an actually useful portal, and contains information that is automatically updated with recent content. I think there's value in adding it to the sidebar because of the large amount of work being done by Wikimedia engineers on MediaWiki. For volunteers, the link will make it easier to find up-to-date information about recent and future tech changes, and for Wikimedia engineers it will be easier to find the relevant pages to update. I see this as a win-win situation :)

I think these two links are uncontroversial, but if someone has concerns I'm happy to discuss this further to find a solution that satisfies everyone. guillom 08:07, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

left menu problem

Hello. Left menu in other language is not correctly. Such as, User help link leads to English only, not to other languages. I think that link must be /wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Contents.

Category:Extensions is too.

Please fix this or tell me how to fix it. Meshkov.a (talk) 11:32, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

You're right. This wasn't done before because the page didn't use the Translate extension yet, so the link was "translated" manually for the available languages. Qgil just changed it.[1] Nemo 13:17, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Good catch! I have localized the links to Category:Extensions and Help:Contents. It's the first time I edit the sidebar at mediawiki.org, I will wait a bit before localizing more links. Suggestions welcome. Qgil (talk) 13:20, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

The Manual is not quite ready... but we really should mark Manual:FAQ page for translation as one of our top priorities. Nemo 13:32, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Bugzilla can be localized links. This page - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bugzilla Meshkov.a (talk) 09:16, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Translations into Persian

I request you to translate the messages as followings. Main page صفحه اصلی Get MediaWiki بارگیری مدیاویکی Get extensions بارگیری افزونه ها Tech blog وبلاگ ویکی مدیا

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Support پشتیبانی User help راهنمای کاربران FAQ سوالات متداول Technical manual راهنمای فنی Support desk میز پشتیبانی Communication برقراری ارتباط

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Development توسعه Bug tracker گزارش اشکال Code repository Code docs مستندات کد مخزن کد Statistics آمارها Wikimedia engineering مهندسی ویکی مدیا

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MediaWiki.org MediaWiki.org Browse categories انتخاب رده Community portal پرتال انجمن Recent changes تغییرات اخیر Current issues مباحث جاری Sandbox صفحه تمرین

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Print/export چاپ/صادر Create a book ایجاد یک کتاب Download as PDF بارگیری به صورت PDF Printable version نسخه قابل چاپ

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Tools ابزارها What links here پیوندها به این صفحه Related changes تغییرات مرتبط Atom اتم Upload file بارگذاری پرونده Special pages صفحه های ویژه Permanent link پیوند پایدار Page information اطلاعات صفحه Project Status وضعیت پروژه ها

Thanks. (in Persian Language : ممنون or تشکر ) Wikimech org (talk) 14:48, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Created non-existent wargo (talk) 15:46, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

A small suggestion, with a big improvement in usability

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Please add a link to Special:Watchlist to the Sidebar. (most likely in Tools panel, or first panel after Contribute) DSquirrelGM𝓣𝓟𝓒 02:39, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi, there is a link to the Watchlist already in the top right menu. Qgil-WMF (talk) 09:10, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

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Drop "Browse categories"?

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We link to Category:Top level with the label "Browse categories" as the first and so most prominent link in the MediaWiki.org section. I can't think of a use case which this serves at all, let alone well. Should we just drop it? Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 17:45, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Makes sense. Qgil-WMF (talk) 08:20, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Done: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sidebar&diff=2567185&oldid=2485600 Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 15:50, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

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Tech blog

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Can someone redirect the tech blog URL to point to this? Thank you! Ed Erhart (WMF) (talk) 20:31, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Changed. Clump (talk) 21:23, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Should be fixed now, awaiting cache purge and potentially phab:T207288. —Mainframe98 _talk 15:29, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

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How do you reformat sidebar

I would like to have the sidebar in the wiki I work on to look like the sidebar here at mediawiki.org, without the dropdown menus. I have searched through mediawiki documentation and can't find anything that helps me with this. Can someone help me with this, please? Ahancie (talk) 15:43, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

You want Manual:Interface/Sidebar. Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 15:48, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

The source isn't corresponding to the Sidebar

It's maybe because of Vector, but changing the page MediaWiki:Sidebar don't affect the sidebar of my wiki.

Someone knows where i have to make the modification ? 198.28.69.5 (talk) 08:52, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

How do you guys apply css?

Hi. I don't know how to apply css to my device. How does the css/js work? Jakek (Talk | Contributions | CentralAuth) 18:23, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Translations into Chinese

Translations are wrapped in code blocks. Chinese has several variants, so it's needed to create three subpages for a single message (/zh, /zh-hans, /zh-hant). Text in bold are the messages' name.

mw-download

/zh, /zh-hans: 下载MediaWiki

/zh-hant: 下載MediaWiki

mw-extensions

/zh, /zh-hans: 下载扩展

/zh-hant: 下載擴充功能

mw-communication

/zh, /zh-hans: 联系交流

/zh-hant: 聯絡交流

mw-bugtracker

/zh, /zh-hans: 漏洞跟踪器

/zh-hant: 錯誤追蹤器

The last request has been 4 years ago and still no one is implementing it, so I just post it again. Lakejason0 (talk) 06:50, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

MediaWiki:mw-download	/zh	/zh-hans	/zh-hant
MediaWiki:mw-extensions	/zh	/zh-hans	/zh-hant
MediaWiki:mw-communication	/zh	/zh-hans	/zh-hant
MediaWiki:mw-bugtracker	/zh	/zh-hans	/zh-hant

Shirayuki (talk) 07:24, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Should we create pages for all variants?

• zh
• zh-hans
• zh-hant
• zh-cn
• zh-tw
• cdo
• ... Shirayuki (talk) 07:48, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

from my own experience using MediaWiki, only creating zh, zh-hans, zh-hant is fine; regional variants can fallback correctly. Lakejason0 (talk) 08:28, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

from my own experience using MediaWiki, only creating zh, zh-hans, zh-hant is fine; regional variants can fallback correctly. Lakejason0 (talk) 08:28, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Hmm... MediaWiki:Mw-download/zh contains both translations, but zh-hans and zh-hant do not fallback (see the sidebar). Shirayuki (talk) 08:57, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Done by creating the above 12 pages. Shirayuki (talk) 10:28, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

seems like regional variants fail to fallback on MediaWiki.org…… I didn’t expect this since only creating three works on my wiki’s sidebar.

Additional messages are below. Lakejason0 (talk) 15:10, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

emmm, I tried using zh-tw and zh-cn here, and it seems that we also need to create these pages for regional variants (they are even missing another message mw-sandbox.) It doesn‘t make sense to me since my wiki works fine without creating regional variants messages for sidebar. Sorry for the inconvenience (I suffered from creating 8 pages for one message a lot of time, because some of the other messages can’t fallback correctly, but I didn’t realize that a multilingual wiki like MediaWiki.org cannot even correctly fallback the sidebar.)

so:

/zh-cn, /zh-sg, /zh-my should use /zh-hans;

/zh-tw, /zh-hk, /zh-mo should use /zh-hant.

/cdo doesn’t make sense to me; it seems like Vietnamese related.

mw-sandbox

/zh-hans, /zh-hant, /zh-cn, /zh-tw, /zh-hk, /zh-mo, /zh-my, /zh-sg: 沙盒

Sorry again and thanks for your help! that 12 pages is now correctly loaded and seems perfectly fine. Lakejason0 (talk) 15:08, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, the question is not fully solved; the 4 messages in main thread for 6 regional variants are still needed to be created (24 messages), and another 8 messages for mw-sandbox too. Lakejason0 (talk) 09:53, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Per Template:GetFallback and Template:GetFallback2, Chinese language has 25 variants:

| gan | gan-hans | ii | wuu | za | zh | zh-cn | zh-my | zh-sg = zh-hans
| ami | cdo | gan-hant | hak | lzh | nan | pwn | szy | tay | trv | zh-classical | zh-hk | zh-min-nan | zh-mo | zh-tw = zh-hant

Shirayuki (talk) 11:01, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

a lot of them are not Mandarin, and I have no knowledge of them. I guess you can just proceed that fallback logic to create pages. Lakejason0 (talk) 15:23, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Special:Diff/4672025

MediaWiki:Sandboxlink-portlet-label	/zh	/zh-hans	/zh-hant
translatewiki:MediaWiki:Sandboxlink-portlet-label	/zh	/zh-hans	/zh-hant

Shirayuki (talk) 13:24, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Translation into Hindi (hi)

Message	Translation
mw-download	मीडियाविकि डाउनलोड करें
mw-extensions	एक्सटेंशन्स प्राप्त करें
blog-text	तकनीकी ब्लॉग
mw-contribute	योगदान करें
support	सहायता
mw-manual	तकनीकी मैन्युअल
mw-supportdesk	सहायता केंद्र
mw-communication	संचार
development	विकास
mw-developerportal	विकासक प्रवेशद्वार
svn statistics	कोड की सांख्यिकी
mw-translate	अनुवाद करें
mw-discussion	विकि प्रवेशद्वार

~ ՏԹՄՐ (✉ • ✎) 06:13, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

It is proposed to change The Sidebar. See Project:Village Pump/Flow/2022/08#h-Remove/rename_some_items_in_sidebar-20220804053600 Shirayuki (talk) 06:33, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

ah seems good, i'll just update this thread once the items are finalized. ~ ՏԹՄՐ (✉ • ✎) 07:10, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Proposed changes - removals and additions

Please see Project:Side bar redesign 2022 for details on some significant changes. This was originally proposed at the Village Pump (Project:Village Pump/Flow/2022/08#h-Remove/rename_some_items_in_sidebar-20220804053600).

Ideally any discussion can continue on either the talkpage of the Project page, or within the original thread. Thanks. –Quiddity (talk) 01:08, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Translations in the sidebar do not work

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Since REL1_39 the translations (from SkinCustomiser/languages/i18n) are not shown in the sidebar. Why? Any ideas? --WikiForMen (talk) 13:18, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

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