Help talk:Two Column Edit Conflict View

Feedback and discussion page for the Two Column Edit Conflict View.

Update (March 13th, 2018): Based on feedback and further research we have developed an alternative prototype for the Two Column Edit Conflict view and asked for feedback until March 12 on Meta. The team is now looking into the feedback and possible next steps.

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Hi @Mosa Daniel Mooki Bw, thanks for the feedback! The too big font should be fixed by tomorrow.

Best,

Lea

@Mosa Daniel Mooki Bw to be more precises here:

The issue was tracked here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186518 and fixed in here: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/409902/. Since this is merged already we just have to wait for the default deployment process, that should be finished by the end of today.

I hope that answers your question :-)

I just recently got an edit conflict which showed up as three columns instead of two; leaving the editors rather squished:

Any idea what's going wrong?

Hi @Evad37, Thanks for reporting this incident. This is nothing we intended to show up. We guess it might be related to gadgets you might use. Could you give us some insights on that? To reproduce this issue or try out the current beta-version you can go to the edit conflict simulation page. We are looking forward to hear some more details. Thank you!

Hi Hanna. I have the following gadgets enabled:

• Browsing:
  • Redirect image links to Commons for files hosted there
  • Print options: control how pages are printed (for example, remove images or backgrounds)
  • Twinkle
  • Enable the Teahouse "Ask a question" feature
  • Reference Tooltips
  • FormWizard
• Watchlist:
  • Geonotice
  • Display watchlist notices
  • (This loads the base style for the watchlist. Please do not disable this option.)
  • Display green collapsible arrows and green bullets
  • Display pages on your watchlist that have changed since your last visit in bold
• Editing
  • Add two new dropdown boxes below the edit summary box with some useful default summaries
  • HotCat
  • wikEdDiff
  • Yet Another AFC Helper Script
  • Form for filing disputes at the dispute resolution noticeboard
  • CharInsert: add a toolbar under the edit window for quickly inserting wiki markup and special characters
  • refToolbar: add a "cite" button to the editing toolbar for quick addition of commonly used citation templates
  • Add extra buttons to the old (non-enhanced) editing toolbar
• Appearance
  • Add an [edit] link for the lead section of a page
  • Add a clock to the personal toolbar that displays the current time in UTC and provides a link to purge the current page
  • Display an assessment of an article's quality in its page header
  • Show radio buttons to switch between views of certain content, such as some maps
  • SidebarTranslate: display sidebar language links in English

Other beta features I have enabled are:

• New filters for edit review
• Wikitext syntax highlighting

I also have several user scripts (w:User:Evad37/common.js), but I don't think any of them interact with the editing area. I also have a bunch of css for overriding the Vector typography refresh (m:User:Evad37/global.css) and various other changes (w:User:Evad37/common.css).

And I'm using Google Chrome (version 63) on Windows 7.

I haven't been able to reproduce using the edit conflict simulation. Though I've noticed the simulation doesn't have the proper CharInsert toolbar (shows up in "copy and paste" mode instead of click to insert like in my screenshot above), and it also doesn't have the Wikitext syntax highlighting active.

@Christoph Jauera (WMDE) can you have a look at this? This exceeds my knowledge of potential gadget clashes (@Hanna Petruschat (WMDE))

Hey @Evad37,

thanks for your feedback and the well ordered list of tools you use, this helps a lot to identify the problem. I created a ticket on Phabricator to take track of the issue so we have it on our monitors https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T184800

Hello. I use your tool a lot of time and like it very much, but this time something is wrong. The right column has font size of about 1000%. Thank you.

Hi @IKhitron,

thanks for your report, I could easily reproduce it with the conflict simulation and filed a ticket: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186518

best,

Christoph

Thank you. It's much bigger for me, but seems it depends on browser.

@DePiep I want to come back to your feedback in the village pump discussion now archived.

The two column edit conflict handling is currently in beta and regarding your post: Clearly, in comparison to the 'old' edit conflict handling it uses more elements, colors and dialogue boxes. To help new users there we show a small walk-through tutorial on first sight.

With all that we try to solve the problem, that users in the past a) had no idea what happened or whether something has happened at all and b) found it annoyingly complicated to resolve conflicts with the 'old' interface. We gathered feedback around that from many editors and as a result came up with the current version.

However, this is a beta feature test with the goal to find out, if the workflow of the new interface works well under live conditions. For this, any feedback is welcome and valuable to improve the current version of the feature. So far the reception was quite good, but also some users pointed out that the interface could be more intuitive. So we are open for suggestions and ideas.

Thanks,

Christoph

p.s.: As edit conflicts do not appear quite often we are currently working on a simple way to simulate them with the new interface so users can test it more easy without having to wait for a conflict to appear. If you're interested I will get back to that in this thread as soon as it's deployed.

Thanks. I've responded here.

After once having selected the version, that should be shown in the editor (right column) I can't change to the other version any more. I would regard it as helpful if a button would be added that makes such a change possible. The button should create a message that informs the user that if the version is changed now any changes made in the right column will be overwritten by the version to which is changed, followed by the buttons "change to ...version" and "cancel".

The feature is very helpful and improves the solving of edit conflict a lot.

Hey @X:: black ::X

Thanks for your feedback. I created a ticket on Phabricator to keep track of the issue: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T178488

I'm happy you like the feature :-), best

Christoph

As @Chicocvenancio said:

Thanks for this feature

@JoKalliauer, thank you so much for the nice feedback! :-) In case you want to test the new interface more: We've just implemented a test page where you can get simulated edit conflicts. For more informations please see for the German or for the English version.

Hi,

Everytime I have an edit conflict, the system asks me which version I want to edit - the current one, or the one that I've been editing. And everytime I make one and the same choice (which is I choose to edit the current version and just copy and paste my own text). So my suggestion is to make it remember my choice to save my (and other experienced editors') time, but leave some descreet option to switch it on the go, if it's technically possible, of course. If it's not, I would like to have such an option in the preferences - thus only really experienced users, who really know what they prefer, would be able to use it.

Thanks for you description of the problem! I know that my college Hanna is currently thinking about improving the dialog, I mention her here so she gets to know about this issue – @Hanna Petruschat (WMDE)

See also phab:T165154.

Hi,

on wikisource, in Page edition mode (page image with text box on the side), this gadget totally breaks edition, with the total disparition of the image...

Not good at all !

I second Hsarrazin feedback. It also breaks the Index namespace interface.

Thanks for the feedback you two, I created a ticket on Phabricator and we will look at the issue. If you stumble over an edit conflict again, it would be great if you could provide us some screenshots.

Best,

Christoph

Thanks for the ticket. task T176738

I just uploaded screenshots :)

I also added @Tpt who is our main (and only) developper, for the moment ^^

Little follow up here: This is actually a duplicate of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176393 - so there is already work being done to fix that.

Thanks for the hint @Whatamidoing (WMF)!

You may want to look at this feedback: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Edit_conflict_options_spoiling_my_edit

The dialog box now behaves more flexible and should work also on narrow screens. See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T166232

Hi, I'm using this feature on English Wiktionary. It works great, except the dialog is way too wide. I mean the dialog that says "What should initially be in the editor and serve as a basis for combining the conflict versions?", and is over the right text box. It extends way to the right of the page content, so I have to scroll to the right in order to find and press the "OK" button. Could you make the dialog be the same width as the right text box?

Hi @Erutuon,

I assume you use the feature on a relatively narrow screen. I tried it myself and could reproduce the issue. Here is the task on Phabricator I created: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T166232

Thanks for your feedback we appreciate it :-), best

Christoph

Well, I have a medium-sized laptop, perhaps 15 inches diagonally. Another factor is that I typically have my zoom size set to 150% while viewing English Wiktionary. Anyway, I reopened this because the problem still exists: see File:Two column edit conflict bug.png.

Hey @Erutuon,

the issue should be fixed by now. I tested it with zoom and narrow screens. You should now always be able to reach the OK, button. It would be great if you could confirm though.

Thanks and best,

Christoph

Sorry for the slow response. I had to wait for an edit conflict before I could respond. I just had an edit conflict and the dialog box looks fine now. Thank you so much!