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Was reporting AIV and got a message about feedback for a Beta feature. 97.115.143.75 (talk) 22:00, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

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באג

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אני לא יודע אנגלית לכן אני כותב בעברית. אני משתמש בפונקצייה הזו באתר שלא שייך לויקימדיה, היום ניסיתי לשמור עריכה והוא התריע לי על התנגשות עריכה עם עריכה שבוצעה לפני יומיים. מיכי י-ם (talk) 09:03, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

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Vagueness of Message

The edit conflict interface doesn't indicate whether forcing one's edit through will preserve the edit by the other user or will wipe out the previous edit. Since it doesn't say that the previous edit will be preserved, I have found it best to temporarily save my edit, and back out from it, and apply it again. If the edit conflict interface is meant to preserve the other edit, it should say so. ~ Robert McClenon (talk) 17:13, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

I have the same problem, which is why I'm dropping this gadget. Preventing an edit conflict should make clear about where my comment is going and this interface has never successfully done that for me. Chris Troutman (talk) 16:07, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Extension Failed to Work

When I use this extension on my wiki, i got such errorlog:

VM2235:956  Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading '$ui')
    at RealtimePreview.isScreenWideEnough (<anonymous>:798:893)
    at <anonymous>:793:1381
    at Object.add (<anonymous>:956:537)
    at realtimepreview/init.js (<anonymous>:793:959)
    at runScript (load.php?lang=zh&modules=startup&only=scripts&raw=1&skin=citizen:12:268)
    at Array.<anonymous> (load.php?lang=zh&modules=startup&only=scripts&raw=1&skin=citizen:12:948)
    at flushCssBuffer (load.php?lang=zh&modules=startup&only=scripts&raw=1&skin=citizen:4:956)

Zorua Fox (talk) 08:34, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

That's an error message from the WikiEditor extension. I can't tell how this is related, sorry. Maybe you need to update that extension first? What was on screen when this error appeared? Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE) 09:47, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply, but this is the only error I saw when the issue occurred, and nothing seems to be happening on my backend (including the Nginx logs).Besides my wikieditor is already up to date. Zorua Fox (talk) 11:09, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Unable to figure out how to use feature

Feature showed my addition with a check and an "X". I clicked the check. I then clicked "Show preview" and nothing happened. I then gave up. Danbloch (talk) 02:15, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Hey @Danbloch,

we tested the feature on deWiki and it worked. In order to solve your problem, could you please tell me which page you were trying to edit? And if possible also send a link to the diff of the change you were making? We will then try to solve your problem or figure out why it occurs and get back to you. Thereza Mengs (WMDE) (talk) 13:07, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

The page was en:Talk:Millennials.

My change was en:Special:Diff/1169104213.

The conflicting change was en:Special:Diff/1169102069/1169103055.

These both were additions at the same point in the file, so the conflicting change appeared first on the edit conflict page, followed by my change. Danbloch (talk) 14:33, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello @Danbloch,

thank you for the details and information. We have reconstructed your problem and indeed found that the interface seems to fail scrolling to the preview part when clicking the "Show Preview" button. Many thanks, for your awareness and your comment! We have created a Phabricator ticket to resolve the issue. You can also follow-up the next steps there. Thereza Mengs (WMDE) (talk) 13:11, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Triggers without an edit conflict

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Hey there,

I'm working on a draft page on the English Wikipedia, more specifically a draft for YouTuber JackSucksAtLife. The issue is that it detects an edit conflict, when there was nothing edited for 3 hours. I just opened up the page and edited it, and then it says that there was an edit conflict. I have no more details. Could someone investigate this? Jalapeño (talk) 11:22, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

I'm afraid this is a long known issue with the conflict detection in MediaWiki core and nothing that can be fixed in this extension. Sorry. Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE) 12:55, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

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Can't get my version back

I hit an edit conflict and the merge was complicated. I decided the best thing to do was to get the changes between my version and the version I was originally changing, and then reapply those changes to the current version. But it appears there's no option to get my wikitext back intact; I can only get it in little pieces around where the edit conflicts are. -- ~ Beland (talk) 02:37, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Ah,I found a way to do this, but it was not where I expected. Normally the button to show changes or go back to the text you were editing is at the bottom of the form, near the "Preview" and "Publish" buttons. In the beta, it's actually next to the title of the revision, between the preview and the diff conflict resolution area. Beland (talk) 02:40, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

+1 I had this exact issue. When an edit conflict ties the edit up into a dozen small sections to compare, it's best to just take my edits and piece it together myself. Usually it shows in the text box but with the new interface, it's hidden. I'd make this "(copy full text)" much more prominent. czar 22:40, 10 December 2024 (UTC)