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change default language for a page different to wiki default language

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89.14.26.108 (talkcontribs)

My Wiki is a german wiki. I write a german page and i can translate pages to other languages and it works fine.

But what if i start to write an english article first and i want to translate it into german ? How do i do that ?

When i go to edit it says on top "this is a translation from the german page". Even if i choose "translate to german" then the page is default shown in english.

if i put the /de at the end of the url , i can see the german content

but page loads default without any /<language>

How can i change the default language page individually ?

my e-mail kristijan80 (at) web.de and the wiki page is http://wiki.yunity.org/index.php/Foodsharing_Transfer_Open_Issues

I don't understand where i can ask for help in a very efficient way.

regards

Kristijan Miklobusec

Halibutt (talkcontribs)

I have a related question, I have a Polish language page on outreach wiki and I would like to translate it to English and perhaps a couple other languages. Yet when I mark the page for translation, the system automagically assumes it's in English and I can then "translate it" to Polish. The page is at the moment at outreach:Education/Ideal workshop/pl.

Anyone? I tried the IRC, I looked everywhere, but to no avail so far.

Halibutt (talkcontribs)

Note: cross-posted the question at Topic:Tb3xr7ayjsvgrs45

Halibutt (talkcontribs)

It seems there is no way to do this, per Topic:Tb3xr7ayjsvgrs45... :/

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Macofe (talkcontribs)

This is a bit strange. I can translate and modified existing translations, but I can't mark translations as reviewed because it says that my session is closed. But it isn't. Proof ot this is that my translations in the same browser, in the same session, at the same time are saved with my username. I tried closing and opening again my session, but it didn't work. I tried Chromium, Chrome and Iceweasel (Firefox in Debian).

I can't say exactly when this started happennig. Maybe a week or two. Before that, I had no trouble.

Let me know if more information is needed.

Update: I didn't specified the site: it's right here in www.mediawiki.org. I have no trouble in meta (see today log)

Update 2: This also happend to me in translatewiki.net. Could it be the translate extension version?

Update 3: It's already been MediaWiki:Tux-session-expired_shown_when_Reviewing_a_message_44515 reported in translatewiki.net by other users.

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Is it possible to hide category pages not in my current language ?

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Tuxxic (talkcontribs)

Hi,

I am using Translate to translate my category pages, therefore there are many pages added to them.

My goal is to display on my category page only the pages containing the language code I am using, for instance "Page title/en" should only be displayed on English version of my category page.

Is it possible to do it ?

Nikerabbit (talkcontribs)

You can leave the category inside <translate> tags and change it in translations. Or you can leave it outside <translate> tags and use something like [[Category:Name{{#translation}}]] magic word to automatically append language code of the translation page (and none for source page).

Tuxxic (talkcontribs)

Thanks, but how can I display translated page name instead of Name/en ? Is it possible using MsCatselect, another plugin I use for selecting categories ?

I want to use MsCatSelect to do category selection, so I put the categories out of <translate> tags.

I have so many questions lately, sorry @Nikerabbit, maybe one day I will help you with the code :)

Nikerabbit (talkcontribs)

At the moment it's not possible in MediaWiki core to display translated page names in category listings.

Tuxxic (talkcontribs)

OK, I can stop searching :) Thanks for advice !

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api error "nomessagefortitle" (2016.04)

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Andreas Plank (talkcontribs)

Hi,

I upgraded to the new translate extension 2016.04 from the language bundle, but it does not translate new pages:

What is wrong here? I used already a simply set up but it does not change the behaviour.

  • Any hint or solution?
  • a configuration problem?

In 2016.01 I had no such problems

Regards Andreas

Nikerabbit (talkcontribs)

Please check whether emptying the JobQueue fixes this error. You can run jobqueue with php maintenance/runJobs.php in the mediawiki installation directory.

Andreas Plank (talkcontribs)

Thanks. Running php maintenance/runJobs.php helped indeed. Is this documented anywhere to check runJobs in that case?

Nikerabbit (talkcontribs)

Manual:Job queue should help you to set up job queue so that jobs are processed with low delay. Perhaps this should be better highlighted in the Translate extension configuration page?

Andreas Plank (talkcontribs)

Perhaps this should be better highlighted in the Translate extension configuration page?

Yes, I agree
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LeGiangAnh (talkcontribs)

Hi,

I followed the guideline and translated the main page to Vietnamese.

However when I switched to Vietnamese language, I cannot see translated text. There is only English one.

Any one please help me.

213.208.149.68 (talkcontribs)

same problem for me!!

Nikerabbit (talkcontribs)

Did you use the unstructured element translation guide? An action=purge might be needed on the main page in that case.

Clementflipo (talkcontribs)

Make sure you added <languages /> at the top of your page.

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Adding a conlang, and supported languages

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Sk4p (talkcontribs)

Hi,

If I'm setting up a mediawiki installation about a constructed language, it makes sense that I be able to render pages in that language as well as any others my community may want to use. I can't seem to find any information on how I add a "local" language to a Language Extension Bundle site.

Also, even just translating a page between natural languages (say, English to German) seems to work fine, but when I go to Special:SupportedLanguages, I still see that there's "0" supported languages in my wiki. What piece of config am I missing for the wiki to "know" it supports some languages?

Nikerabbit (talkcontribs)

$wgExtraLanguages['language-code'] = 'Language autonym'; assuming it is supported by ULS. If it isn't, then there is no easy way to make it appear in the language selector in Special:Translate (but modifying the URL it should work).

For the latter question, the page is cached for some time. If it does not start working, then closer investigation is needed.

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Summary by Nikerabbit

Possible to use same name if they are in different sections.

Abbedabb (talkcontribs)

I want to use a <tvar> at least twice in a template. Is that possible? How do I code that?

Abbedabb (talkcontribs)

I mean that I want tu use THE SAME <tvar> at least twice. It is a year that will pop up in a few places in the text. For now the year will pop up in different scentences, though. That might make it easier.

Nikerabbit (talkcontribs)

Can you give an example of the markup?

Abbedabb (talkcontribs)

I tried using <tvar|year> twice, but it is in two different <translate>-tags, so it seems to work just fine.

The template headline is "Eurovision Song Contest <tvar|year>{{{1}}}</>" and later in the text the same year is mentioned. But in another translate-section.

Nikerabbit (talkcontribs)

It looks like you found a working solution, is that correct?

Abbedabb (talkcontribs)

Yes. When two <tvar>-tags with the same name are used, but within two different <translate>-tags, they do not interfere wit each other.

Translate recurring word/sentence once?

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Abbedabb (talkcontribs)

If a word or sentence is used many times on a page, can I somehow code the extension so that this word/sentence only needs to be translated once?

Nikerabbit (talkcontribs)

No. If that word or sentence is an independent unit, you can use the translation memory to speed up the translation.

Abbedabb (talkcontribs)

You mean, if a user has to translate the same word three times, the system suggests the first translation when translating the second occurance if the word?

(In my template, the line "Photo:" has to be translated four times.)

Nikerabbit (talkcontribs)

Yes, you need to translate it four times, but you can pick up the translation from the translation memory. The translation memory works on the unit level, so it does not suggest translation for words embedded in a sentence.

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Kghbln (talkcontribs)

I have this on my page:

[[Kategorie:Beispiele{{#translation:}}|Beispiele]]

and I get

[[Kategorie:Beispiele/en]]
[[Kategorie:Beispiele{{#translation:}}|<translate>Beispiele</translate>]]

does help at all since the result is the same as above. However since I cannot expect English speaking people to know what "Beispiele" means the only way is seems to label the category.

This may be a noob question. I am sure there is a way but I currently do not get it. This example does not cover it so I am a bit lost.

Nikerabbit (talkcontribs)

Currently, as far as I know, MediaWiki does not support changing category names from what they actually are. There is a task requesting to support this: task T26139.

Kghbln (talkcontribs)

Ouch, admittedly I have never labeled a category differently. I took it for granted that this is possible. I guess this will be a nice feature with regard to content translation. Thanks a lot for pointing to the issue.

Andreas Plank (talkcontribs)

Just an idea: one could try to transclude the translated content of the page display title of the corresponding Translation name space page:

{{#ifexist: {{Translations:Kategorie:Beispiel/Page display title{{#translation:}}}}<!-- 
then transclucde content via {{…}}
-->|{{Translations:Kategorie:Beispiel/Page display title{{#translation:}}}}<!-- 
else
-->|Kategorie:Beispiel{{#translation:}}
}}

… or in general with the magic word {{FULLPAGENAME}}:

{{#ifexist: {{Translations:{{FULLPAGENAME}}/Page display title{{#translation:}}}}<!-- 
then-->|{{Translations:{{FULLPAGENAME}}/Page display title{{#translation:}}}}<!-- 
else-->|{{FULLPAGENAME}}{{#translation:}}
}}
Andreas Plank (talkcontribs)

I just realized (for the record so to say) that the page I’m testing in #ifexist: must be coded correctly as Translations:… and not as page transclusion {{Translations:…}}:

{{#ifexist: Translations:{{FULLPAGENAME}}/Page display title{{translation:}}<!-- 
then -->|{{Translations:{{FULLPAGENAME}}/Page display title{{translation:}}}}<!-- 
else -->|{{FULLPAGENAME}}
}}
Kghbln (talkcontribs)

Thanks for your suggestion. The idea I came up with is to do

<translate>Categories:</translate> [[:Category:General{{#translation:}}|<translate>General</translate>]]

[[Category:General{{|translation:}}]]

and add the HIDDENCAT behaviour switch to "Category:General{{#translation:}}". This is a bit of work depending on how many categories there are as well as make the display of the category link [[:Category:General{{#translation:}}|<translate>General</translate>]] appear as if the added category was never hidden but I quite like it.

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