Help:可视化编辑器/常见问题

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概述[edit]

什么是可视化编辑器?
可视化编辑器是由维基媒体基金会主动开发,使得人们不需要学会wiki文本即可编辑页面的MediaWiki附属软件。通过它,本来死板的页面编辑将变得更加友好——编辑时,文本就看起来已经被保存。
为何做出此变动?
旧编辑窗口使用的复杂Wiki语法是新人做出第一次编辑的最大障碍,也是阻碍新人们成为某编辑社区的高效,经验丰富的编辑者的最大障碍。为了增加首次编辑的成功率,我们需要更好的编辑系统。请参见更多解释获取更多详细信息。
在哪里可以了解到可视化编辑器的使用方法?
请参见可视化编辑器用户指南
我的wiki何时能够启用?
目前的发布计划刊登在mw:VisualEditor/Rollouts。从2013年以来,超过一半的维基百科为所有用户提供了可视化编辑器作为选项。 可视化编辑器已在除维基词典和维基文库外,所有维基媒体基金会项目上,作为测试功能为所有登录用户提供。
为什么把还没开发完的程序部署了呢?
当有新功能需要添加或者有问题需要解决的时候。基本上,发现BUG和功能缺失的最好方法就是让尽可能多的人来使用它。当我们了解到BUG在短期内的破坏性时,它们就得被修复,而大家的使用促使我们发现了这些需要被修复的地方。
I found an issue with VisualEditor. How can I tell you to fix it?
If you're willing and able, please report the issue in Phabricator in the "VisualEditor" product. Most large Wikipedias also have a wiki page dedicated to feedback about VisualEditor; see the list on Wikidata. There is also a central feedback page on mediawiki.org.
怎么禁用可视化编辑器?
要继续使用wiki文本编辑,点击“编辑”旁边的“编辑源代码”按钮即可。在每个段落的编辑连接中,您可以点击“编辑”右侧的“编辑源代码”按钮编辑段落源代码。 On wikis where VisualEditor is still a Beta Feature, you can simply uncheck its box in the Beta tab of your Preferences; on the other wikis, you can check the Temporarily disable VisualEditor while it is in beta box from the Editing tab instead.
可视化编辑器中缺少某个功能。我如何请求添加它?
部分功能目前仍在开发或计划中。路线图、2015~2016年维基媒体工程目标页面同样提供了一些额外信息。如果您找不到您要建议的新功能的引用,请使用与报告问题相同的流程提交它。
在可视化编辑器成为主要的编辑界面之后,还能否通过维基代码编辑?
能。尽管我们计划最终向所有用户提供可视化编辑器界面,到时仍然可以使用页面底层的源代码进行编辑。我们不打算移除编辑维基代码的界面。
我可以在可视化编辑器使用我熟悉的维基标记么,例如[[ ]]和{{ }}?
不。当前这些按键分别会触发链接工具和模板工具。如果您在页面上使用维基标记,编辑器会发出警告。参见可视化编辑器用户向导了解如何使用可视化编辑器。
Why is my browser not supported?
Building a modern editing interface for Wikipedia and its sister wiki is a technical challenge, but it's possible using modern web technologies and standards. Unfortunately, some browsers don't support many of the features we need for VisualEditor. We're doing our best to support the most common browsers: VisualEditor works well with recent versions of the most popular web browsers: Firefox 15 and up; Iceweasel 10 and up; Safari 7 and up; Chrome 19 and up; Opera 15 and up; Microsoft Internet Explorer 10 and up; Edge 12 and up. In some browsers, such as Internet Explorer 9, a warning message will still show up, but users shouldn't experience any major problems editing. Trying to work around the limitations of older browsers would divert resources from improvements that would benefit the majority of users. We encourage you to upgrade to a supported browser and, if you can't, to continue to edit using the source wikitext editor. (See VisualEditor/Target browser matrix for specific details.)
Does VisualEditor work with Wikisource's ProofreadPage, or Wiktionary's templates, and other features that Wikipedia doesn't have?
VisualEditor is flexible enough to be adapted to all Wikimedia sites. However, Wiktionary's heavy reliance on templates will require significant work by community members to provide TemplateData to their users, and Wikisource's ProofreadPage tool will require some additional work to integrate VisualEditor smoothly.
我可以在维基媒体以外的个人wiki安装可视化编辑器么?
是的,这由您自行负责。可视化编辑器Parsoid扩展均可下载,但它们仍然处于试验阶段;注意Parsoid需要nodeJS。如果您安装并使用它们,请让我们了解它是怎么工作的,以及什么问题没有在Phabricator提出。
Does VisualEditor make automatic fixes to pages?
In most cases, VisualEditor will not make changes to formatting on lines that are not being directly edited. In cases where markup already on the page is handled incorrectly (for example, with tables that are not closed), it may attempt to correct these.
Will the visual editor be enabled on talk pages?
​No. This question comes up quite often.
  • The visual editor is designed to edit content, plain pages of text[1].
    • Talk pages aren't content. Many of the tools and design patterns that make VE nice to use to edit content make it poor to use for discussions. ​
    • To make it usable for discussions, we would have to remove or break many of those patterns in VE. We have spent a lot of time researching with users what works best there.
  • VE can't deal with structured discussions and plain-text discussions are not structured discussions.
    • Discussions like they are on traditional talk pages are not structured discussions from a technical perspective, despite the fact there is a certain number of colons or bullet points added to each answer to provide a pseudo-structure. With the current design of classical discussions, a piece of software can't know who has replied to whom – only humans can. There is no real connection between posts (which post is the parent/child of which), which is the definition of a structured discussion.
    • At the moment Flow deals with structured discussions. In Flow, each post is independent with a unique ID, linked to other posts and to a Topic (also with a unique ID), with a specific history, and all posts can be targeted precisely. It would be possible in the future to have conversations at multiple places, to move topics or replies, and to create sub-discussions with Flow. Classical talk pages, using VE or not, do not allow that.
我在这里没找到我的问题。我在哪里询问?
直接点此在mediawiki.org或到您wiki的对应页面(通过维基数据查看列表)即可。

Community resources[edit]

Where can I read more about what communities can do to adapt the visual editor to their sites?
You can find a sort of "checklist" here on mediawiki.org.
Where can I find people experienced in this kind of effort?
There is a list of names at Help:VisualEditor/Community Taskforce.