Help:Strukturerade diskussioner/En sida

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Alla dokumentationer för strukturerade diskussioner pÄ en sida.


Installation

Kom ihÄg att strukturerade diskussioner kallades tidigare "Flow". Vissa verktyg och processer kanske har kvar det gamla namnet.

Wikimedia Foundations wikier

Strukturerade diskussioner Àr bara aktiverade pÄ vissa av Wikimedias wikier. Vissa av dessa wikier har aktiverat det som en betafunktion för alla anvÀndare. Det kommer inte installeras pÄ fler av Wikimedias wikier.

Andra wikier

Du behöver installera tillÀgget StructuredDiscussions pÄ din wiki.

LÀs mer pÄ TillÀgg:Strukturerade diskussioner .

Aktivering

Administratörer pÄ wikier som har installerat strukturerade diskussioner har rÀtt att skapa, flytta och radera strukturerade diskussionsbrÀden.

För att aktivera flow, gÄ till Special:EnableStructuredDiscussions pÄ din wiki. Skriv in sidans namn i det första formulÀret. Det andra textytan lÄter dig fylla i brÀdbeskrivningar.

Detta genomför följande uppgifter:

  • arkivera diskussionssidan i wikitext pĂ„ en undersida;
  • Skapar ett Strukturerade diskussioner-brĂ€de som ersĂ€tter diskussionssidan.
  • skapa en lĂ€nk till den arkiverade undersidan pĂ„ Strukturerade diskussioner-brĂ€das beskrivning (spalten till höger);

Det Àr inte möjligt att omvandla sida i wikitext till strukturerad diskussion. Det beror pÄ hur strukturerade diskussioners struktur (ett brÀde med Àmnen).

Sidflyttar utförs som pÄ andra sidor.

Raderingar av strukturerade diskussionsbrÀden utförs som pÄ andra sidor. Om du dÀremot vill arkivera brÀdet, behöver du flytta den till en undersida först.

Inaktivera

PÄ vissa wikier har det tidigare funnits en betafunktion lÀt anvÀndare aktivera Strukturerade diskussioner pÄ sina diskussionssidor. Denna betafunktion stöds inte lÀngre, men anvÀndare som en gÄng aktiverat det kan inaktivera det.

Skulle de göra det kommer "Flow talk page manager" utföra följande uppgifter:

  • avarkivera sina tidigare diskussionssida i wikitext;
  • arkivera strukturerade diskussioners brĂ€de pĂ„ en undersida. Den hĂ€r arkiverade sidan finns till följande adress: User talk:USERNAME/Structured_Discussions_Archive_1 .

Det finns ett underhÄllsskript som kopierar innehÄllet i ett strukturerat diskussionsÀmne till en wikitextsida.

Kontakta oss om du behöver hjÀlp med att inaktivera din sida.

Alla strukturerade diskussionssidor kommer förmodligen vara inaktiverade och konverterade under 2024.

Byta namn, radera, ÄterstÀlla

Vill du döpa om, radera eller ÄterstÀlla ett brÀde strukturerad diskussion, se administrationssidan.

Known problems (and how to solve them)

Some problems may occur when people use Structured Discussions. This page lists these problems.

Structured Discussions is not working for you

There is two possible known cases.

Browser compatibility

Structured Discussions is following MediaWiki's software compatibility. If your browser is not on the list of the "Grade A" browsers, Structured Discussions may not work for you. In any case, having an up-to-date browser is highly recommended for safety reasons.

It is possible to use Structured Discussions without JavaScript or on a text-only browser.

If you still have a problem, it may come from your account settings.

Account settings compatibility

Check compatibility

If your browser is up-to-date, you may have a problem with gadgets or personal scripts you use.

To check on that problem, at your choice:

  • if you are on a Wikimedia wiki, test if you can use Structured Discussions on an other wiki with your global account. Check on the list of wikis where Structured Discussions is available and try Structured Discussions there. That option will not be relevant if you are using global scripts (written on your global.js).
  • create a new account for test purposes. Don't activate any extra gadgets or add scripts to that account. Try then to use Structured Discussions.
  • clear your cache and the try to post a message on a Structured Discussions board
  • check for broken scripts
Find and solve the problem

You can identify which gadget or script is not compatible by locating it. When you have found the problematic script or gadget, please contact script/gadget's author, your local script/gadget project or the administrators.

If you still have a problem, unselect all gadgets and clear all scripts from your account, save the changes, clear your cache. Then re-enable all gadgets and scripts.

If then you still have a problem, please contact the Growth team.

It is not possible to use Search to find Structured Discussions topics and contents

Special:Search page does not includes Structured Discussions topics.

Manage topics

Filter topics

Location of the filtering menu on a Chinese wiki.

On top of a Board is an option to filter topics.

  • "Nyaste Ă€mnen" will show you topics stored by when they have been created.
  • "Senaste aktiva Ă€mnen" will show you topics as they have been updated, most recent first. Resolve a topic updates it.

Edit a topic/a message

The three-dots menu allows you to access many options: edit the topic title, the summary, resolve... (here in French).

Editing, like many other actions is accessible through the three-dots menu.

Autoconfirmed users can edit any message, to fix problems or look at the wikitext.

When a message is edited, a new entry is added to the History page. The username of the last editor who changes the message is displayed below the message itself, on the timestamp. To see the differences between the edits, click on the timestamp.

When you edit a message, all basic editing applies.

The title itself can also be edited. In the ... menu next to the topic's title, select "Edit title".

The topic title only allows wikitext markup allowed by the edit summary.[1]

Summarize a topic

Summarizing a topic will help people to understand what happened in the Topic. It can be done anytime: during the conversation to summarize what happened, or at the end after a decision is made. Summarizing the topic will be suggested when you mark a topic as resolved.

You can put links or templates in the Summary (like {{Mall:Se Àven }} or {{Mall:SpÄrad }}). All basic editing applies.

Logged-in users can summarize a Topic.

Resolve a topic

Resolving a topic hides all answers for that topic, and a check mark is added to the Topic title. Summarizing the topic will be suggested when you mark a topic as resolved. You can expand a resolved Topic by clicking on the Title or on the Summary. You can re-open a Topic anytime, by clicking on the Topic's menu (three dots icon). You need to reopen a topic to do any administrative actions (hide, delete, suppress).

A resolved topic is identified by a grey font color on the table of contents.

Logged-in users can resolve a topic.

Customization

If you want to only have a start-a-new-topic page, with nothing else around, use action=new-topic.


Notifications

You can receive many information about Structured Discussions with the Notifications.

Notifications received

Structured Discussions action several notifications.

Actions with notifications

Highlight new messages

If you click on a notification for a new message, a blue highlighting will be displayed on the side of all new messages for the given Topic.

Highlight mentions or thanks

If you click on a notification for a mention or a thank on a Structured Discussions board, the message where the mention is has a green highlighting.

Actions from notifications

You can unwatch a topic from notifications. Click on the ... and then on "Stop watching activity".

Watchlist

You can turn off Structured Discussions notifications on your notifications preferences. Your watchlist will be still updated with a new line for every subject on a talk page you watch or a new line when someone answers a Topic you watch.

Watch a topic

To watch a specific subject, click on the star on the top of the Topic, near of the title. It turns blue. If it is already blue, you already were watching this topic.

While watching, you will get a notification for every edit to this Topic, and a new line in your watch list.

When you create a Topic, you are auto-subscribed to this Topic.

Watch a Talk page

To watch a whole page, click on the star on the top of the page, near of the search field. It turns blue. If it is already blue, you already were watching this page.

While watching, you get a notification for every new subject posted on this talk page. You will also get a watch list entry.

Permalinks

Permalinks allow users to create a link to a Topic, or to quote precise elements from a Topic.

Board permalink

Like other pages on your wiki, a Board's permalink is the URL displayed on the browser's navigation bar, or, for internal links, the page title. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User talk:Example and [[User talk:Example]] are both permalinks to the whole board.

Topic permalink

A Topics namespace is Topic:

If you are on a Board, the Topic's permalink can be found by clicking on the three-dots icon, on the right side. If you are on the Topic itself, then the Topic's permalink is the URL displayed on the browser's navigation bar, or by clicking on the three-dots icon.

Topic links are formatted with a random sequence of characters, their universally unique identifier (UUID). This link does not currently have a hierarchical relationship between the Board and the Topic. Example: Topic:Sojhhtquzbhj3d7q

The UUID enables a Topic's title to be changed, e.g. to make it clearer, without needing to worry about breaking any incoming links. It is also needed by some future features, where a Topic may be displayed on multiple boards, or multiple wikis. A URL using the title was not possible to create, because many topics have similar titles: "Hello", "Thank you", "I need your help", etc. We are studying a way to have more human-readable URLs, which will still include the unique ID.

Post permalink

A Post's permalink is reachable by clicking on the three-dots icon, on the right side of the message itself.

Post links are formatted with a Topic's permalink and an anchor to the Post itself.

Example: Topic:Sojhhtquzbhj3d7q#flow-post-sojhhtr5w6j2go86

In order to highlight a particular topic, some elements may be added by Flow to the URL you will have in your browser address bar. Copying this URL will still work.

Tip: If you include another Post's permalink in your own comment, then any user who clicks on that link will see the post highlighted by a green bar.

Administration

All groups of user rights mentioned on this document are the ones defined on MediaWiki.org.

However, configuration varies by wiki, so consult Special:ListGroupRights on the wiki you're interested in.

Concerning posts and topics

Posts and topics can be moderated in three different ways: hide, delete and suppress.

Some users can also edit or rename a Topic or a board, or mark a topic as resolved.

The following sections mention "posts", but everything also applies to topics.

It is not possible to carry out these actions when a topic has been "Marked as resolved". You have to reopen it first.

Edit

You can edit your own posts. Autoconfirmed users can edit Structured Discussions posts by other users.

Hide

By default, any user can hide a post; it uses the flow-hide right.

A hidden post is replaced by a warning message. You can read the hidden post by clicking on the history link on the warning message. You will then access to the history page, where the message is struck through.

Anyone can unhide a post on the history page. If a post is unhidden, it becomes visible by anyone.

Mark as resolved

By default, any logged in user can mark a topic as resolved, or reopen it (making it no longer resolved).

This prevents further posts to the topic.

This uses the flow-lock right.

Delete

By default, users in the sysop group can delete posts. When it is done, the post is deleted. Sysops can restore the post on the History page. This uses the flow-delete right.

Hidden topics that haven't been replied can be successfully deleted using Special:Nuke page.

Suppress

By default, users in the oversight and suppress groups can suppress posts.

When it is done, the post is oversighted. Oversighters can restore the post on the History page.

This uses the flow-suppress right.

Rename

Renaming a topic will only change the topic title. It will not move the page from the board.

Concerning boards

Rename

A user can rename a board if they have the right to create a Structured Discussions board at the destination name.

For example, if the destination is a Structured Discussions namespace, any user can move the board to there.

If a user has the "Skapa strukturerade diskussionsforum var som helst" (flow-create-board) right, they can create a page working on Structured Discussions in any location; that means they can move a Structured Discussions board to any location.

By default, flow-bot has this right.

However, wikis can give it to additional users.

Delete and restore

Deleting a board requires the same privileges as deleting any page. When you delete a board, all topics linked to this board are inaccessible to all users, except sysops (like any deleted page). When you restore a board, all topics are visible again.

Protection and blocking

Like all pages on a wiki, it is possible to semi-protect or protect a Structured Discussions board. Blocks are also handled normally. If you block a user without selecting the "Redigera sin egen diskussionssida" option, that user will still be able to create new topics on their personal talk page.

Move and redirect

Structured Discussions board can be moved in the same way as any other page, by visiting Special:MovePage.

It is not possible at the moment to create a redirection from a Structured Discussions board.

However, you can work around this issue. Assume you want to redirect Talk:Source to Talk:Destination.

  1. If Talk:Source exists, move it to an archive page Talk:Source/Archive (or a suitable archive location).
  2. Create the redirect in a wikitext namespace, as normal, e.g. at User:MyUsername/Redirect:
    #REDIRECT [[Talk:Destination]]
  3. Move User:MyUsername/Redirect to Talk:Source.

You can also use Special:ChangeContentModel to forcibly create a wikitext page in a Structured Discussions-default namespace, and then redirect it.

Categorization

You can add categories:

  • for a Board, in the board description,
  • for a Topic, in the Summary.

Categories will work like on any other page. They will be displayed at the bottom of the Description sidebar.

Preloading contents

It is possible to preload some contents with Structured Discussions. You can create a link with some parameters, and these parameters will preload the Title and the text fields.

To do this, you can use these two parameters on a Structured Discussions Board:

  • topiclist_preloadtitle= - will preload the Title field with the text you add after the =
  • topiclist_preload= - will preload the text field with a page (usually as subpage) that you call after the = (does not works with simple text)

Examples

If there is no content on given page, nothing is preloaded.


Current limitations

It is not possible to preload the Summary.

It is not possible to preload Templates.

It is not possible to preload simple text on the message field: topiclist_preload=Hello will not work.

It is not possible to add preloadparams .

Tips

  • Do not translate the parameters
  • Use magic words like canonicalurl or urlencode to be sure your link will work with special characters or spaces on your wiki.

Kortkommandon

This page outlines the various keyboard commands supported by the visual editor mode on Structured Discussions. They are based on VisualEditor shortcuts.

The shortcuts shown below are for PC, and may be different on Mac (usually replacing CTRL with ⌘ Cmd). You can press CTRL+/ (⌘ Cmd+/ on Mac) from within Structured Discussions to see the latest available shortcuts on your device.

If you have ideas for new useful commands, or have noticed problems with the existing ones, please let us know on the Feedback Page.

Textstil
CTRL+B Fet
CTRL+I Kursiv
CTRL+K LĂ€nk
Skriv [[
CTRL+⇧ Shift+6 Datorkod
CTRL+⇧ Shift+5 Genomstruken
CTRL+, NedsÀnkt
CTRL+. Upphöjd
CTRL+U Understrykning
CTRL+M Ta bort
CTRL+\
Urklipp
CTRL+C Kopiera
CTRL+X Klipp ut
CTRL+V Klistra in
CTRL+⇧ Shift+V Klistra in som oformaterad text
Styckesformatering
CTRL+0 Stycke
CTRL+7 Förformaterad
CTRL+8 Blockcitat
Skriv :
CTRL+1-6 Rubrik (1-6)
Skriv == Rubrik 2
Tab â†č Öka indrag
CTRL+]
⇧ Shift+Tab â†č Minska indrag
CTRL+[
Skriv *+SPACE Punktlista
Skriv #+SPACE Numrerad lista
Skriv 1.+SPACE
Historik
CTRL+Z Ångra
CTRL+⇧ Shift+Z Gör om
CTRL+Y
Andra
CTRL+↔ Enter Spara Ă€ndringar
CTRL+F Sök och ersÀtt
CTRL+G Hitta nÀsta
F3
CTRL+⇧ Shift+G Sök föregĂ„ende
⇧ Shift+F3
CTRL+⇧ Shift+X Ändra riktning
CTRL+A Markera alla
CTRL+/ Kortkommandon
CTRL+⇧ Shift+/
Infoga
Skriv <!-- Kommentar
Skriv <hiero Hieroglyfer
Skriv <math Matematisk formel
Skriv <chem Kemisk formel
CTRL+⇧ Shift+K KĂ€lla
Skriv <ref
Skriv <score ⧌score-visualeditor-mwscoreinspector-title⧜
Skriv <syntax Kodblock
Skriv <source
Skriv { | Tabell
Skriv { { Mall
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