Frontend standards group/2014-10-23-Weekly

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Status[edit]

  • Going with Mustache in core \o/
    • note: make sure we land Mustache lib via composer if possible
  • PHP OOUI has been merged
    • Progressive enhancements are next
  • RL template module ready to be merged (?) - would rather do this way before next deployment as it is a breaking flow/mobile change.
  • Icon libraries
    • Trevor has been talking with May and Jared
    • Discussion about a distributed library rather then a central one
    • Icon module should be reviewable within a week


Discussion[edit]

  • composer and similar management for js (npm/bower?)
    • make sure we can pin versions! so when building tarballs or reverting to old versions things don't explode with wrong/unexpected versions
    • npm vs bower -- nested dependencies are weird in npm? bower installs just one jquery, npm installs many
      • bower may be a better fit for our needs due to this consistent versioning of installed packages? but hate to have to choose
      • switching bower -> npm probably easier than switching npm -> bower if we have to change later
  • further discussion -> needs timo & ori!
    • key asks:
      • Should we have a js package manager?
        • Room feels yes but Timo says no, lets discuss
      • If we use one, which one is it? bower or npm?
    • Increase of dependencies in MediaWiki?
      • should just be a development/fancy deployment dependency. tarballs would presumably have everything preincluded, as with composer libs
      • not that much more trouble than adding composer as a development dependency
      • (if anything it's easier to install npm than composer! and it can all be scripted.)

Front-end library management in MediaWiki core[edit]

  • Investigation and possible standardization of javascript library management for MediaWiki core using a system that meshes with Composer management of PHP libraries
    • Some details at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T807
    • Bryan and Kunal are willing to be fingers on keyboards for this as part of the Q2 "Librarization" project but need input and guidance from this group

TODO[edit]

See if we can move this meeting to just after Lunch [Tomasz]