Extension talk:VIKI

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Krabina (talkcontribs)

As it seems, nobody was interested in doing maintance work (even for payment), we funded implementation of a complete rewrite. So everybody is invited to use and improve Network extension, especially bringing more VIKI features to the new extension. (e. g. support for TitleIcons is currently missing)

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Krabina (talkcontribs)

I would suggest to remove the unmaintained tag from this extension. I was surprised to find out that the latest master requires MW 1.34 (I am working with 1.31). There have been several commits from the community since the last release 2017...

Kghbln (talkcontribs)

Well, you could use REL1_31. I guess this one gets "bulk maintenance" changes, however the status was changed according to this post. Moreover the topic suggests that the extension will not work with 1.32+ anyways.

Cindy.cicalese (talkcontribs)

The extension author is no longer working on MediaWiki projects. I do not have the bandwidth to take over maintenance of the extension and have not tried to install it in several years. If there is another developer willing to take it over, that would be great. But, until then, it only gets the "bulk maintenance" changes as @Kghbln mentions.

Krabina (talkcontribs)

its a very great extension, it should not get abandoned ;-)

Cindy.cicalese (talkcontribs)

I've always really valued it as well. I'd be interested to hear who is using it.

Krabina (talkcontribs)

I am very impressed, tried it for the first time in MW 1.31LTS. It is working out of the box as is!

Cindy.cicalese (talkcontribs)

Yeah, I wrote an earlier version of it then handed it over to Jason. There was so much more we wanted to do with it, but there's only so much time. It would be great to get it working with 1.32+.

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Graph: Uncaught TypeError: mw.loader.using is not a function

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37.165.121.50 (talkcontribs)

Hey there,

So I'm using MW 1.32.0 + SWM 3.0.1 + Semantic Title 4.0 + Title Icon 4.0 + VikiST 1.4.0 and VikiTI 1.4.0.

I had this problem with Title Icon 4.0 and TYPE_STRING so I corrected as in Title Icon 4.1:

if ( ( defined( 'SMWDataItem::TYPE_STRING' ) &&

$value->getDIType() == SMWDataItem::TYPE_STRING ) ||

$value->getDIType() == SMWDataItem::TYPE_BLOB ) {

$strings[] = trim( $value->getString() );


So now Title Icon 4.(1) is okay, but VIKI is not.

Graph are not rendering and I got this in console :

Graph:206 Uncaught TypeError: mw.loader.using is not a function


I tried the php maintenance/refreshLinks.php, but that's not it?

Any idea? Maybe I upgraded too far with everything...

Thanks

Cindy.cicalese (talkcontribs)

VIKI is not actively maintained at this point. However, if somebody determines that a fix is necessary for upgrading and submits a patch, it is possible that it could be considered.

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HTML numbers instead of symbols

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Silkwood (talkcontribs)

If the NODE (i.e. the page title) contains symbols (e.g. a single quote), VIKI puts the HTML number instead (e.g. ')

For example if I have the node Rickett's Hornpipe VIKI will render it as Rickett's Hornpipe

Is there a way to solve this misbehaviour?

Thank you

Cindy.cicalese (talkcontribs)

Unfortunately, there is no longer an active maintainer for Extension:VIKI.

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Not working in MediaWiki 1.30.0

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Summary by Legaulph

I did not set the width and height

Legaulph (talkcontribs)
MediaWiki 1.30.0
PHP 7.1.8 (apache2handler)
Semantic MediaWiki 2.5.6
Page Forms 4.2.1 (624f2a9) 18:20, 16 January 2018
VIKI 1.6.0 17:12, 23 March 2015

Does not display anything, and no errors showing

--Legaulph (talk) 16:13, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
77.22.28.211 (talkcontribs)

I just installed the extension and it shows up in the Version Special Page.

It looks like the collaborate.mitre.com site is offline (for ever?) and I don't know how to set up the Graph?

There is no Special Page for the Extension and I couldn't find any other way to interact wirth the extension.

I just feel kinda dump...

Cindy.cicalese (talkcontribs)

There was some infrastructure maintenance over the weekend that took collaborate.mitre.org offline. It is back up now and has the information that you are looking for.

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viki graph on SMW and non-SMW wikis

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Tenbergen (talkcontribs)

I just installed VIKI on two mediawikis.

One does NOT have SMW installed, and the extension works.

The and DOES have SMW installed, and the extension does NOT work.

I would have expected the opposite behavior. Why would this be?

--

So, I waited a day and checked again, now it works. The wiki that would not work initially is a LOT more interlinked and larger and I have had some problems with the runJobs not working right, so this might have just been a matter of the time to populate new data. Not certain, but thought I'd update here.

Cindy.cicalese (talkcontribs)

I'm glad that it started working! Thank you for your report and the update that it did begin working.

Tenbergen (talkcontribs)

Interesting though, at least one of my colleagues got the same look of the page, with no indication of the VIKI call. I did a (ctrl-F5) on her computer and then it worked. We never had a page with that name before, so it seems strange that it would have cached something that did not work. In any case, cache flush fixed it, so I am good to go, but wanted to report that back.

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Tenbergen (talkcontribs)

We have a very interlinked wiki with >2700 pages. Almost 600 are redirects, many left intentionally so people can find and link pages under different names, e.g. an acronym. I don't know if others use redirects the same way, would be interesting to find out.

It would be nice if VIKI could "mask" these and just show them as a direct link. Many of our articles have >10 links in and out, including all the redirects makes for a cluttered display.

Cindy.cicalese (talkcontribs)

That does sound like it would be useful in a situation with many redirects. While we are not actively adding new features to VIKI right now, we can add this to our list of future enhancements. We are also willing to accept patches from other contributors. Thanks!

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Tenbergen (talkcontribs)

Wow, that is one very cool extension! I have been trying to explain to some of my colleagues for years how the info is all there in one big network, but it took a long time to convince them. Being able to visualize the concept like this is great.

I had been thinking about coming out to EMWCon before installing this, but now I am convinced that I have to go! Thanks foran excellent tool!

Cindy.cicalese (talkcontribs)

Great! Looking forward to meeting you at EMWCon.

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Start with no nodes elaborated?

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RDGGDR (talkcontribs)

It would be useful to have a VIKI graph showing only specified nodes. For example, you have a wiki showing the solar system, you could do a VIKI graph specifying "All Planets" and initially it would only show all the planets. Then on elaborating, say, Earth, it could show all the other pages that link into/out from Earth.

At the moment the only way to display such a thing is to make separate pages that only contain the required links, and use Semantic Titles appropriately - which is not a great solution.

Ckoerner (talkcontribs)

Perhaps one way would be to limit via category? "Only show nodes/pages in Category X"?

Cindy.cicalese (talkcontribs)

Thank you for your feedback. We will add those suggestions to our list of requests. We used to have such functionality in an earlier implementation and agree that it could be useful. We also welcome patches in gerrit.

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