Extension talk:TinyMCE/2018

Redlink to property NS not working on MW 1.27.4 with enabled TinyMCE

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First of all thanks for the work on this extension. It looks very promising especially in combination with the PageForms extension. I did stumble into a fault when using TinyMCE on MW 1.27.4

When using the redlink to create a non existing category page with TinyMCE enabled the below fault pops up:

Exception encountered, of type "Error"
[2d3360ca5125f698ce4c74db] /mediawiki-1.27.4/index.php?title=Category:Test&action=tinymceedit&redlink=1 Error from line 3229 of C:\Apache\htdocs\mediawiki-1.27.4\includes\EditPage.php: Call to undefined method Article::openShowCategory()
Backtrace:
#0 C:\Apache\htdocs\mediawiki-1.27.4\includes\EditPage.php(3194): EditPage->showPreview(string)
#1 C:\Apache\htdocs\mediawiki-1.27.4\includes\EditPage.php(2706): EditPage->displayPreviewArea(string, boolean)
#2 C:\Apache\htdocs\mediawiki-1.27.4\includes\EditPage.php(600): EditPage->showEditForm()
#3 C:\Apache\htdocs\mediawiki-1.27.4\extensions\TinyMCE\TinyMCEAction.php(34): EditPage->edit()
#4 C:\Apache\htdocs\mediawiki-1.27.4\includes\MediaWiki.php(493): TinyMCEAction->show()
#5 C:\Apache\htdocs\mediawiki-1.27.4\includes\MediaWiki.php(288): MediaWiki->performAction(CategoryPage, Title)
#6 C:\Apache\htdocs\mediawiki-1.27.4\includes\MediaWiki.php(735): MediaWiki->performRequest()
#7 C:\Apache\htdocs\mediawiki-1.27.4\includes\MediaWiki.php(509): MediaWiki->main()
#8 C:\Apache\htdocs\mediawiki-1.27.4\index.php(43): MediaWiki->run()
#9 {main}

Tests where done on default wiki installs with only the TinyMCE extension enabled with the following configuration:

Product	Version
MediaWiki	1.27.4
PHP	7.0.28 (cgi-fcgi)
MySQL	5.6.25-log
ICU	57.1

This only happens on MW 1.27.4 , on 1.29.2 and 1.30.0 it is working just fine. If more information is needed please let me know.

I did not get TinyMCE to work in a free text field in Page Forms yet but I am trying to find out what is going on and if this is also related to MW 1.27.4 or not. Thanks and regards. Felipe (talk) 08:53, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi there

Thank you for trying this extension. I managed to reproduce this error as I also use MW 1.27.4. I will have to investigate further but won't be able to do this until tomorrow, so perhaps you could check back in about 30 hours or so?

Many thanks

Duncan 194.176.221.149 (talk) 09:16, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

No problem, there is no hurry :-) Felipe (talk) 10:30, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Jongfeli

Yaron created a fix for the redlink problem. I have uploaded this to the distribution. If you have a chance to try it out would you let me know if this fixes the problem for you?

Many thanks

Duncan DuncanCrane (talk) 07:06, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello Duncan,

Yes this fixes the problem, thanks. Is it a good idea when I report bugs on GitHub instead of this talk page?

Regards,

Felipe. Felipe (talk) 08:14, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Felipe

Thanks for the feedback and your very helpful suggestions.

Its fine to report bugs on GitHub for now. In the not too distant future we'll move this extension to the Mediawiki Git repository.

Many thanks

Duncan DuncanCrane (talk) 11:50, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

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MW 1.30 issues with internal links

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Hi I have just tried TinyMCE on a local server that is not connected to the Internet. When I try and add an internal link to the main page I get the following code generated:

[[Main Page|Main Page]]
  [[Main Page|Main Page]]" class="link internal mw-internal-link mceNonEditable" title="Main Page">Main_Page​<br>

Any idea what's gone wrong, or is it a bug? Squeak24 (talk) 14:18, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

OK, I have commented out the following lines in TinyMCE\tinymce\plugins\mw_link\plugin.js:

//rel: data.rel ? data.rel : null,

//"class": data["class"] ? data["class"] : null,

//title: linkTarget ? linkTarget : null

//title: apage ? apage : null

That has partly fixed the issue, I am now getting this as an error:

Main Page
  
   [[Main Page|Main Page]]">Main Page​

Squeak24 (talk) 15:52, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Are you using the latest TinyMCE code? Yaron Koren (talk) 15:58, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

I downloaded the master copy yesterday from the main extension page. 82.110.109.208 (talk) 12:27, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

I have just transferred a copy of TinyMCE I had on a virtual machine onto the live environment and it seems to be working OK now. The copy I am using was downloaded before easter. Squeak24 (talk) 13:39, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Apologies Yaron, I should have saved the page first. When I saved the page the internal link converts to:

[Main%20Page Main Page] Squeak24 (talk) 14:02, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi there.

I just tried this with the latest version of the TinyMCE code but could not reproduce the error. There were quite a few changes made to the handling of links over the last week or two. I'm not sure from what you say if you are using a version from before Easter and also if you still have the lines commented out that you tried before?

Otherwise would you let me know the versions of software you are using, including your browser?

Many thanks

Duncan 194.176.221.149 (talk) 09:11, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Duncan,

I have uploaded a video onto my server so you can see what it's doing. I have reverted back to the most current download I had which I downloaded on Tuesday. I did try and re-download it today on my Surface Pro but McAfee kept deleting it saying it had found a virus.

The software details are:

• Windows Server 2012 R2 Standard
• WAMP
• MediaWiki 1.30
• MSVC14 (Visual C++ 2015)
• PHP Version 7.1.9
• Apache/2.4.27 (Win64) PHP/7.1.9
• WAMPSERVER 3.1.0 64 bit.

System details are:

• Intel (R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2660 v3 @2.60GHz 2.60GHz
• RAM 4GB
• 64 bit operating system, x64-based processor.

Any help is appreciated.

Gary Squeak24 (talk) 15:15, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Gary

I got it now. I have uploaded a change to the mw_link plugin which I hope will fix the problem you've had. I think also I need to rewrite this plugin which I (rather crudely) adapted from a standard TinyMCE plugin. The current plugin should work OK but it is rather difficult to follow!

Thanks for trying out this extension - its very helpful.

Duncan 86.165.114.182 (talk) 07:13, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

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Errors when uploading images

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I have just tried to upload an image using TinyMCE and got the following error:

I'm sorry, you have encountered the following warnings trying to upload this file: The destination filename is not allowed Please correct the errors and try again

I am using Windows Server 2012 R2 with WAMP. Squeak24 (talk) 15:01, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi there. Thank you for trying out this extension. The warning is a result of the file upload API issuing a bad filename warning. This 'feature' doesn't appear to be well documented but as far as I've been able to tell it arises if the filename is meaningless or is likely to be changed during the upload because it cannot be stored as specified.

Perhaps you might try providing an alternative destination file name in the upload wizard to see if that works? If you feel the filename should be accepted by mediawiki e.g. because it has worked using the standard upload special page, the would you let me know what it is and I can investigate further?

Duncan 194.176.221.149 (talk) 08:32, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

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Some feedback and remarks

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• The documentation is not clear on the following (quote): ...by having WikiEditor displayed on pages where TinyMCE is disabled, if both extensions are installed.

  But how do you actually disable TinyMCE on a page, is this even possible? VisualEditor from Hallo Welt uses the behavior switch __NOEDITOR__

  It is actually very powerful to be able to disable TinyMCE with a behavior switch.

• Using editor=tinymce in a form works just fine. The only problem is that the toolbar hides itself when the focus is not on the editing field.

  This makes the page shift up and in my opinion is not necessary. I tried to figure out where this is set but to no avail.

• Selecting and uploading a picture via the Upload/edit file has some issues.

  When doing the following:

• You end up with:

  [[File:Some file name for some file.jpg|link=Some other link|alt=Alternative text|none|middle]]

  But it should be:

  [[File:Some file name for some file.jpg|link=Some other link|alt=Alternative text|none|middle|thumb]]

  -There is also no possibility to add the caption text.

  -Pictures are also not shown in there thumbnail size when editing in TinyMCE. When pictures are big this makes editing practically impossible.

  -After changing the size of a picture in the TinyMCE picture editor pop up it is not possible to save the page.

  -The button View and edit wiki source code is not working when there is a picture of file on the page. Felipe (talk) 13:37, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi

Thanks for these really useful suggestions. I'll have a look at how the Hallo Welt extension implements the __NOEDITOR__ switch and see if I can adapt it. Likewise I can look into adding a setting that enable one to togglle the hidden toolbar on and off.

Will post back here when I've had a chance to look into this.

Many thanks

Duncan DuncanCrane (talk) 07:56, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello Duncan, thanks for your responds. I have added some remarks above, concerning inserting pictures. If you want this information somewhere else than the Talk page please let me know. Felipe (talk) 12:51, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi there. Thank you for your continued testing of this extension - it's very helpful.

I've just uploaded a new version of the upload plugin which I hope fixes the inclusion of the thumb parameter in the wikicode. There are a number of other changes affecting the parsing of images between html and wikicode that I've been working on too so I hope I haven't introduced too many new bugs ;-)

Retrieving the thumbnail file is a little more complex than retrieving the image file so I'll have to investigate how to do this but I agree waiting for large pictures to load up is pretty tedious.

I used to have the caption text and don't know why I took it out! I'll try to put it back again.

I couldn't recreate the last two problems but as mentioned I have changed this part of the processing quite a bit. Would you try the file I recently uploaded (mw_uplod/plugin.js) and see if you still have these problems?

Many thanks

Duncan DuncanCrane (talk) 14:48, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Jongfeli

I've now made some of the changes you suggested which I hope will work for you. I've added the ability to add a Title/Caption in the upload/insert/amend file dialog. I have also changed the TinyMCE editor to use a thumbnail image if it can find one. It looks for a thumbnail of the image that corresponds to the users preferred thumbsize and uses this if it finds it, otherwise it reverts to using the full size file.

This last is a great improvement when editing pages with large images such as photos so thank you for suggesting it.

If you have a chance to try these changes I'd be interested to know if they worked for you. I'm still working on your other suggestions of the __NOEDITOR__ switch.

Kind regards

Duncan DuncanCrane (talk) 17:08, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello Duncan, thanks for the work done. I am busy testing TinyMCE but at this moment Master is broken. As of now I will report any issues on GitHub. Regards. Felipe (talk) 07:54, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

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How to Block HTML in TinyMCE?

See comments

How to turn off all html? I want to allow only WikiText.

thx Johnywhy (talk) 18:57, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi - there is now a config variable to preserve html tags in WikiText. If this isn't set they will be converted to their WikiText equivalents, if one exists. Hopefully this achieves the effect you want? DuncanCrane (talk) 09:27, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Thx @DuncanCrane, but i think my question is how to block HTML, not preserve it. That is, how to stop TinyMCE from inserting HTML.

thx Johnywhy (talk) 18:52, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Johny,

Wow long time no see! Html entered using the TinyMCE extension editor should be converted to its wikitext equivalent when you save the page.

Perhaps you'd let me have an example if this isn't happening for you?

Many thanks DuncanCrane (talk) 13:23, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi @DuncanCrane! i don't remember now.... :(

will let you know if i can remember

thx! Johnywhy (talk) 21:51, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Conflict with SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi

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Hi Duncan and Yaron

Great work, I have found out what the issue was I was having. I was trying something else and came across a conflict where SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi was conflicting. This extension also conflicts with TinyMCE.

Gary Squeak24 (talk) 15:16, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Gary

That's strange as it seems to work with SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi OK for me. Can you provide any further information?

Duncan 86.165.114.14 (talk) 13:33, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

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Issue with uploading images from local machine

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Hi Duncan and Yaron,

Great work with the extension. I have found another bug with the uploading the images from a local computer. I tried to upload an image named "helicopter and tank.jpg", the image uploads, but when I click on save changes it asks me if I am sure I want to navigate away from the page. The image then doesn't show up, well nothing that I have done since the last edit shows up.

Sometimes it messes with the page and I get a load of code at the top of the page which shouldn't really be happening. I am struggling to replicate this second issue at the moment because the images aren't saving.

Any help would be appreciated.

Gary Squeak24 (talk) 13:31, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Gary

I'm sorry I didn't notice you comment til now. Seems most people are using the Github page to post issues currently. I tried to reproduce the bug but couldn't. This may be because I've made quite a large set of changes to the upload functionality over the last week, so this may have fixed your bug too.

Would you try again with the latest code and let me know if that works?

Many thanks

Duncan 86.165.114.14 (talk) 13:19, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

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WikiEditor menu displays with TinyMCE menu

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A few things are happening with this on MW1.31 (which were also present in 1.30). I have added the patch in WikiEditor.hooks.php although line 75 doesn't look like the patch link, line 171 does.

Issues seem to be intermittent with not being able to save edits, existing text not showing in editor and both edit bars appearing on the page. The last one varies, sometimes they are stacked on top of each other, sometimes the WikiEditor bar appears at the bottom of the edit window. I want to still have the WikiEditor for editing source.

Any pointers on what could be causing these errors?I've tried changing themes, shutting off the category picker (Extension:MsCatSelect) and it still persists. Sgrìobhairear (talk) 13:52, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi there

Firstly, thank you for trying our extension and providing feedback. Secondly sorry it has taken me a few days to spot your comment.

I have just added the patch to the WikiEditor extension in Mediawiki 1.31 and it seems to work fine for me. I was a bit perplexed that you thought it should be line 171 and not 75 as the WikiEditor extension hasn't changed for a couple of years and when I updated the WikiEditorHooks.php file it looked the same as in the patch.

Is it possible you added the patch to TinyMCE.hooks.php which is part of the TinyMCE extension rather than WikiEditorHooks.php which is in the 'includes' directory of the WikiEditor extension? DuncanCrane (talk) 16:26, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

WELP. YES. That was exactly it, thank you so much! Sgrìobhairear (talk) 12:50, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

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Mediawiki WYSIWYG page

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You might want to consider adding this extension to WYSIWYG editor#TinyMCE and editing the text there. Best wishes, ~ Jonathan3 (talk) 03:33, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

I've made a start on this for you :-) Difference between revisions of "WYSIWYG editor" ~ Jonathan3 (talk) 21:32, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

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Freezes when cut and paste much from PDF

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I've not tried it on multiple PDF files yet, but are you aware of a problem with cutting and pasting from PDF files? It seems that a few words work OK, but paragraphs cause it to freeze. I'm using the form on DiscourseDB. Thanks, ~ Jonathan3 (talk) 03:47, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

I've installed TinyMCE on my own wiki... cutting and pasting exactly the same text freezes the DiscourseDB page but not mine. I'm not sure whether or not to say this has been resolved... :-) I'm using the latest extension code and MW 1.29.2 Jonathan3 (talk) 21:25, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Jonathan

I had a look at the DiscourseDB page and I think it may be using an earlier version of the TinyMCE extensions as it has problems which were resolved subsequently. I'll check with Yaron to see if this might be the case, but I'm glad its working OK on your wiki.

Many thanks, Duncan ~ DuncanCrane (talk) 10:09, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Jonathan, I've now checked with Yaron and DioscourseDB was a bit out of date as far as this extension is concerned. Yaron kindly updated it, so it should now work in the same way as your local wiki. Please do try again and let me know if this is now OK?

I haven't tested a lot with cutting and pasting PDF or Word so do let me know if you have other problems and I'll try and sort them. Meanwhile I'll start on the other questions you've raised...

Many thanks, Duncan DuncanCrane (talk) 11:25, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

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Formatting error when cutting and pasting from Word

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If you create a Word document with the following lines:

Test

Test

Test

it cuts and pastes fine, as it does when you italicise the middle "Test".

But if you italicise the middle "Test" and the subsequent empty line, it comes up in the editor as:

Test

''Test''''''Test

Is there a way round this? People often mistakenly format empty lines in Word. Thanks ~ Jonathan3 (talk) 21:14, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Jonathan

Sorry for the delay getting back to you. For some reason this page had dropped off my watchlist. I'll take a look at (and your other questions) over the next day or two.

Kind regards ~ DuncanCrane (talk) 16:28, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Jonathan

I've now investigated further. Currently the drag/paste logic is pretty basic (and in places buggy) and what you are seeing in a number of your comments is the result of this. Rather than put sticking plaster over each problem, I'm spending a bit more time to come up with a more robust solution. Hope you are able to wait for this?

Kind regards

Duncan DuncanCrane (talk) 17:01, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Happy to wait, thanks ~ Jonathan3 (talk) 23:45, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

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Cutting and pasting hyperlinks from Microsoft Word or PDF documents

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Is it possible to do this and retain the hyperlink in the wiki page?

It seems to work fine when taking text from web pages (it retains the HTML).

Thanks Jonathan3 (talk) 21:22, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

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Possibly adding to "noarticletext" system message

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Currently it still has "edit this page" but it might be good to add "edit with TinyMCE" to the list. Jonathan3 (talk) 22:21, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Just noticed that when TinyMCE is enabled, it is used when you click "edit this page". Jonathan3 (talk) 22:58, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

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Single line breaks

These are currently replaced by <br /> in the middle of lines.

It would be good if the <br /> could appear at the beginning (or end) of a line, to make it easier to look at the wikitext that is created. Would that be possible?

In fact, it would be good to have an option (for cutting and pasting) that changes source paragraphs with single line breaks into double line breaks (i.e. which Mediawiki will render as separate paragraphs). Jonathan3 (talk) 22:57, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Jonathan

Thank you for trying out the TinyMCE extension. Your question has led me to find a couple of bugs in the code which I will update for (if I can remember how to use Gerrit!!!).

Regarding your suggestions, the challenge we've had is that, as far as possible, we want the TinyMCE extension to preserve WikiText when it does the 'round trip'. In other words, if you open a page using TinyMCE and save it without making any changes the wikitext should be unaltered.

In WikiText an inline <br /> or <br> renders as a new line whether it is followed by a new line or not. This is because a single new line in WikiText is not rendered. Because of this, we currently have a way to enter a <br>, using SHIFT-ENTER, which is separate from entering a a non-displaying new line, which uses the ¶ menu button.

If we alter the SHIFT-ENTER to insert a <br> followed by the non-displaying new line, then users who didn't want the ¶ would have to delete it. So it seems to be six-of-one and half-a-dozen of the other.

A similar argument goes for the suggestion of converting <br>s in pasted text to double new lines when saving in WikiText as there are occasions where authors use <br> in WikiText deliberately and wouldn't want it converted.

Unfortunately, although it seems simple, the way WikiText renders newlines is fiendishly complex to parse accurately!

If you still feel passionate about this kind of functionality, let me know and I'll see what others think about it?

Many thanks

Duncan DuncanCrane (talk) 15:17, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi,

I support this fix too!

I have made multiple tests here: http://discoursedb.org/wiki/My_Test_Page using TinyMCE 0.3 (5f48eb9) 20:10, April 16, 2019

Here is what I have entered using TinyMCE:

Line 1
Line 2
Line 4
Line 7

Here is the HTML output:

<p>Line 1
</p><p><br>
Line 2
</p><p><br>
</p><p><br>
Line 4
</p><p><br>
</p><p><br>
</p><p><br>
Line 7
</p>

It seems to had an unnecessary <br> at the beginning of each <p>

Then, after many tests, I got different behaviours.

Once I also got "Line 1 Line 2" into the same <p>.

I hope this helps.

Best,

Clément ClemFlip (talk) 09:41, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Text area/existing text not showing

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I've just installed the extension and added the patch for WikiEditorHooks.php. The wiki is still new and doesn't have much content so on most pages with existing text, TinyMCE and rich text are showing up fine. On at least one page though, which has a Heading 2 text and some normal text, TinyMCE shows up but the text entry area is blank. I can enter text, but whatever I typed doesn't get added to the page.

Not sure if it's relevant, but I'm running MW 1.31.1 with SMW 3.0.0, on IIS 8.5 running on Windows Server 2012 R2. I'm accessing the wiki via Chrome 70 on macOS 10.14.1. Tommy H (talk) 10:34, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Tommy

Apologies for the delay replying, this page somehow dropped off my watchlist. Would it be possible to copy the wikitext from the page (using the standard editor) and pasting it here as I've not been able to reproduce the problem.

Many thanks, Duncan DuncanCrane (talk) 16:38, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi,

I would like to add that I am also having this same issue. Fresh install of Mediawiki using XAMPP and freshly installed TinyMCE but whenever I attempt to edit a page after creation, nothing appears in the text entry field. If I hit preview post, changes aren't shown and trying to view the code in the source code section >< nothing appears there either. I can normally create pages fine using TinyMCE but editing is where the issue lies. Jack.f.13 (talk) 13:05, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

I would like to add, I managed to resolve this issue by rolling back and using the last release version (not current) seems to be a bug with the latest version Jack.f.13 (talk) 02:23, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi,

I am having the same issue. I tested which text would make the editor window appear blank. For me it happend only when the last thing was a headline, not followed by standard paragraph text. E.g. if a source code of a page only contains

=Test=

the editor window would be blank. If it contains

=Test=
Test

everything would work just fine. I hope this helps. Julz711 (talk) 17:37, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi Julz, Jack and Tommy

I tried the content suggested by Julz and couldn't reproduce the error. I think I may have resolved this when fixing another problem, but if you still find you get the same thing, please let me know. Thank you all for trying this extension.

DuncanCrane (talk) 08:56, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

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