Extension talk:RevisionSlider/2018
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Hi, I happen to discover this wonderful feature but I’ve noticed that in the tutorial for the Spanish version, the third slide, is in English. I managed to understand it but some Spanish speakers may be troubled!
Thanks for your atention, PMAverageMe (talk) 21:36, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- Hi @PMAverageMe, translations for almost all Wikimedia projects including the RevisionSlider are done with the help of translatewiki.net and the translatewiki community. There you can look into the translations for all elements of a project and suggest your own.
- For the RevisionSlider in Spanish the page to look at there would be here You can easily register there and suggest a translation for the text. :-)
- Alternatively I can try to ping people here that have translated the RevisionSlider in Spanish already on translatewiki (hoping the translatewiki usernames are the same): @Macofe @RicardoSGZ
- Thanks :-) Christoph Jauera (WMDE) 13:49, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
Revision Slider is a great help for my admin tasks. Thank you. Aniket (talk) 15:20, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, thank you so much for the nice feedback :-) we're really glad that RevisionSlider is helpful for you! Birgit Müller (WMDE) (talk) 14:00, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
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This a very nice feature. No issues so far. Thank you to everyone involved. MrX (talk) 21:49, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for taking the time to give us feedback! We were really happy when we received it (and we still are :-) - this is very motivating for everyone! Birgit Müller (WMDE) (talk) 14:03, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- As far as I am concerned this useless graph is just clutter which interferes with my work. How do I get rid of it? ~ JRSpriggs (talk) 06:38, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
- Hi @JRSpriggs, you can disable the RevisionSlider by checking Don't show the RevisionSlider in your preferences under Appearance -> Diffs. Birgit Müller (WMDE) (talk) 13:28, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
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Great tool to review changes to my translation/edits. No more hussle going back and forth between tabs. Appreciate very much to have editors move between eds and save time/energy and this smoothly. Omotecho (talk) 05:08, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for the great feedback, this means a lot to us :-) Birgit Müller (WMDE) (talk) 14:09, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
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Very good addition, thanks.
Suggestion: add an icon above a bar, if there are edits on the Talk page from the same day. Or maybe, to refine better, edits from the same day by the same user. Or a counter of the number of Talk edits.
Issue: I do feel that the diff page respondes more than a little slowly, at least after loading several diffs in a row. But that's Firefox for you (v56, win10). Danny lost (talk) 21:41, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
- Hey @Danny lost,
- thanks for the feedback and the suggestion.
- To get a better understanding on what you mean: So the idea would be, to show these icons/tags/numbers that relate to the talk page of an article on the RevisionSlider view of the actual article page right? Can you give an example on how this would help you in your work? :-) - That would be really great.
- Thanks again,
- Christoph Christoph Jauera (WMDE) (talk) 11:49, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, clues about the talk-page, in the article-RevisionSlider. On the one hand, most article changes are not accompanied by talk-page discussion. On the other hand, some cases of dense activity are the result of counterpart activity on the talk-page. The edit summary is not a reliable clue for whether there was a discussion, let alone what was said there. On active articles, going through the talk-page is a time consuming effort.
- Let's say I visited an article in the past, and now on a second visit I see a lot has changed, some of it not for the better. I want to see what led to this and open the Slider. I can see when some sentence was removed, but not if someone gave a good reason for this. If there was a talk-page indication, I can jump to that discussion and see if this was the result of an edit war, a compromise, or maybe an undiscussed change. Maybe I'll learn that this is a repeating issue, that there are previous Admin decisions, and so on. Danny lost (talk) 17:45, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
- Cool, thanks for that detailed explanation. I created a Phabricator ticket so we have the feature request on our monitors and it could be considered in the future. Christoph Jauera (WMDE) (talk) 10:51, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
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Hi, recently I found out that my personal wiki revision slider could not work, display The revision slider failed to load.. I using developer tools (F12) to check, and I got
load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=ext.RevisionSlider.Api%2CDiffPage%2CHelpDialog%2CPointer%2CPointerLine%2CPointerView%2CRevision%2CRevisionList%2CRevisionListView%2CSlider%2CSliderView%2CdialogImages%2Cicons%2Cinit%2Cutil|moment%2Coojs-ui%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-toolbars%2Coojs-ui-widgets%2Coojs-ui-windows|oojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced%2Cicons-moderation&skin=vector&version=0w0sw2o:62 Error: RS-revs-not-specified
at SliderView.initializePointers (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=ext.RevisionSlider.Api%2CDiffPage%2CHelpDialog%2CPointer%2CPointerLine%2CPointerView%2CRevision%2CRevisionList%2CRevisionListView%2CSlider%2CSliderView%2CdialogImages%2Cicons%2Cinit%2Cutil|moment%2Coojs-ui%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-toolbars%2Coojs-ui-widgets%2Coojs-ui-windows|oojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced%2Cicons-moderation&skin=vector&version=0w0sw2o:43)
at SliderView.render (load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=ext.RevisionSlider.Api%2CDiffPage%2CHelpDialog%2CPointer%2CPointerLine%2CPointerView%2CRevision%2CRevisionList%2CRevisionListView%2CSlider%2CSliderView%2CdialogImages%2Cicons%2Cinit%2Cutil|moment%2Coojs-ui%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-toolbars%2Coojs-ui-widgets%2Coojs-ui-windows|oojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced%2Cicons-moderation&skin=vector&version=0w0sw2o:32)
at load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=ext.RevisionSlider.Api%2CDiffPage%2CHelpDialog%2CPointer%2CPointerLine%2CPointerView%2CRevision%2CRevisionList%2CRevisionListView%2CSlider%2CSliderView%2CdialogImages%2Cicons%2Cinit%2Cutil|moment%2Coojs-ui%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-toolbars%2Coojs-ui-widgets%2Coojs-ui-windows|oojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced%2Cicons-moderation&skin=vector&version=0w0sw2o:62
at mightThrow (/w/load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=1v29rkf:49)
at process (/w/load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=1v29rkf:50)
(anonymous) @ load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=ext.RevisionSlider.Api%2CDiffPage%2CHelpDialog%2CPointer%2CPointerLine%2CPointerView%2CRevision%2CRevisionList%2CRevisionListView%2CSlider%2CSliderView%2CdialogImages%2Cicons%2Cinit%2Cutil|moment%2Coojs-ui%2Coojs-ui-core%2Coojs-ui-toolbars%2Coojs-ui-widgets%2Coojs-ui-windows|oojs-ui.styles.icons-editing-advanced%2Cicons-moderation&skin=vector&version=0w0sw2o:62
Does anyone have any idea about this? 星耀晨曦 (talk) 14:21, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
- Hey @星耀晨曦,
- I have a few questions before I can help you. What do you mean by "personal wiki" do you maintain your own Mediawiki installation? And if so, what version of Mediawiki and what version of the RevisonSlider do you use? ( if you're not sure you can find that info on the Special:Version page of your wiki ).
- Thanks,
- Christoph Christoph Jauera (WMDE) (talk) 12:08, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, it is my wiki that I maintain. My wiki info:
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- |PHP
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- |MariaDB
- |10.2.13-MariaDB-log
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- |ICU
- |52.1
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- I use 1.0.0 （ce8f25a） version RevisonSlider. My wiki also is public, this is one of the damaged page.[1] 星耀晨曦 (talk) 13:19, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
- Hey,
- thanks for the data. I had a really quick look but did not find an easy solution. Now I created a ticket on Phabricator so we can work on it. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189096
- We will keep you updated! Christoph Jauera (WMDE) (talk) 10:04, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion.Great request! Great response! (This last includes great execution!) Suggest: Search and Find to locate specific revision to address. Some of the stuff that comes up on Wikipedia has to much of a proprietary interest from their creators: emotion being the wild-and-crazy card that over-rules over all; but this time you guys done[sic] it up right! Had I a thumb to spare, I should award ye three (3) thumbs up. SMOMMSS (talk) 22:33, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
- @SMOMMSS, I remember how happy we were when we received your feedback, but then we actually didn't let you know! So sorry for this late response: Thank you very much for your nice comment :-) About your suggestion: What exactly would you want to look for, name of author, date ...? A general "search" functionality is not planned, but we might look into making it easier to find other versions of an editor, and improve the orientation on the timeline later this year. I can let you know when this becomes more concrete! Best, Birgit Birgit Müller (WMDE) (talk) 13:05, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
Some first-glance orientation on the time axis with regard to absolute time would be helpful. This could be provided in the form of, for example,
- labeling the visible range with start and end date
- time intervals shaded differently and and labeled in some unobtrusive form (since edit frequencies vary across pages, the intervals used would probably have to adapt somehow, e.g., weeks, months, or years):
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</figure-inline> BlaueBlüte (talk) 05:38, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
- +10 for the last point. IKhitron (talk) 14:06, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
- Hey @BlaueBlüte,
- thanks for the feedback and suggestion. On Phabricator we've already got a ticket that deals with time related scales in the RevisionSlider. I left a comment there, so that we consider your feedback when looking into the issue.
- Best,
- Christoph Christoph Jauera (WMDE) (talk) 09:10, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
More useful would be a proper way to discover when certain content was added, altered or removed. English Wikipedia has a feature "Revision history search" which links to an unfortunately-named widget called "WikiBlame". This could potentially be very useful, but unfortunately it seems to have been written by and for techies, and the user interface is virtually incomprehensible for the ordinary user. It is also very slow. Mihia (talk) 01:12, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
- This is a separate feature that came up in different community wishlist surveys in the English as well as German Wikipedia community. The Phabricator card T2639 collects most of the discussions that already went into this. The wish is currently marked as "can not be realized for technical reasons" in the German Wishlist. Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE) 07:31, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
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Hi. There is a button of revision slider, browse history, in mobile version, that does nothing. It's better to remove it, isn't it? IKhitron (talk) 14:32, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
- Can you please clarify what you mean when you say "mobile version"? I'm aware of several ways to get a mobile view:
- The "mobile view" link at the end of each page leads to the view small-screen devices like phones get by default. Example: https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Mobiler_Unterschied/178162652. Revision slider is not active there. This is being worked on as part of phab:T165835.
- Users can use the same mobile skin on desktop. Example: https://de.wikipedia.org/w/?diff=178162652&useskin=minerva. RevisionSlider is active there and works, as far as I can tell.
- There are mobile apps for Android and iOS. RevisionSlider is not meant to work with these.
- Maybe you experience the problems you describe on a specific device? Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE) 13:08, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
- Reproduction steps:
- Windows 7, last Quantum
- Install Side view extension - allows to compare desktop and mobile versions side by side.
- Open some diff page.
- Click the side view button on browser address fiels, nearby the bookmarking star.
- The mobile version of the same page appears in the side view IKhitron (talk) 13:50, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
- I found a gadget on the English Wikipedia thats called "Mobile sidebar preview" (source code). But I assume this is not what you mean. RevisionSlider works fine with this, as far as I can see. Are you talking about a browser extension? Which browser are you using, and where to find this extension? Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE) 16:16, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, like I said: I'm on Quantum. You can find it on [2]. IKhitron (talk) 16:30, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
- Personally I'm happy to see the Mozilla folks working on a feature like this. But I honestly don't think it makes sense hunting bugs in an experimental Firefox feature that started just a few days ago, according to the page. Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE) 16:36, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
- Let's talk in May? IKhitron (talk) 17:04, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
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The RevisionSlider would be much more useful if you could filter, which changes are displayed: I am missing a filter by author: If you see some changes on a page which are not neutral for example. Then it would be useful to check which other changes were done by this author (and no: the history of the edits of this author helps only if the edits were not done over a long time frame). Semon (talk) 12:36, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- I'm afraid this request is a bit out of the scope of this project. RevisionSlider currently does not provide any filter. Instead, we are currently investigating possibilities to highlight edits, e.g. edits by a specific user. At the same time other teams are working on RecentChanges and Watchlist filters. Please check this out: Edit Review Improvements/New filters for edit review. Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE) 07:54, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
- +1 on the idea of a future useful feature. Call it a "raw requirement" based on user input; and file it away with whatever project might benefit from this user input. Cheers.
N2e (talk) 14:33, 7 August 2019 (UTC)- Baffling. I'm looking for a particular edit. This is not helping my search based on the edit's content. You may still use this, I just want to turn it off and go back to before. 2601:646:C700:1C70:48DA:DC29:2E3E:9F60 (talk) 04:30, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
- I'm sorry? RevisionSlider is not meant to replace the history. What makes you believe this is the case? Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE) 07:20, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
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| I didn't say how good is it. I said WHAT good is it. What is it used for? What does it DO? Ce sert de quoi, ce truc? | |
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What good is it? BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 21:20, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
- Very good. [[kgh]] (talk) 08:30, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
- What? It's very good. [[kgh]] (talk) 06:44, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
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What is it used for? What does it do? It’s so confusing, should be more intuitive otherwise seems useless to me. 103.214.223.154 (talk) 00:15, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
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Hello there. In our wiki, the sidebar contains collapsible items. When using the Revision slider, all items in the sidebar are suddenly shown expanded and the small triangle to collapse the subitems are gone. As soon as I change to any other article, the sidebar is shown correctly.
This happens under Mediawiki 1.27 as well as 1.31. I use the vector skin, and I have also installed the "CollapsibleVector" extension. AnonymusGdpr (talk) 20:43, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Uh. Are you able to tell us what exactly "our wiki" is? PS: I found the issue. Unfortunately it seems there is no easy, quick fix. I created phab:T211557 to help us keep track of it. Additional input and ideas are welcome. Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE) 08:11, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- You can see it here: https://test.perrypedia.proc.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Perrypedia%3AWillkommen&type=revision&diff=1364380&oldid=1363459
- When first opening the page, the items in the sidebar are collapsible. Now open the RevisionSlider; they are still collapsible. Now move any of the sliders: the sidebar changes to non-collapsible.
- This is, of course, a minor problem. Eventually the RevisionSlider is a great thing and very useful for us. AnonymusGdpr (talk) 10:36, 10 December 2018 (UTC)