Architecture meetings/RFC review 2014-04-02

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2100 UTC, 2 April, at #wikimedia-officeconnect.

Requests for Comment to review[edit]

  1. Scoped language converter - C. Scott Ananian
  2. Square bounding boxes - C. Scott Ananian

Summary and logs[edit]

  • LINK: : https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_meetings/RFC_review_2014-04-02 (sumanah, 21:00:25)
  • Today we're covering 2 RfCs, both from C. Scott Ananian: scoped language converter & square bounding boxes (sumanah, 21:00:34)
  • scoped language converter (sumanah, 21:00:59)
    • LINK: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Scoped_language_converter (sumanah, 21:01:05)
    • C. Scott has very significantly revised this RfC from what it was last year! (sumanah, 21:01:11)
    • I asked cscott what he'd like out of today's discussion, and he said: "(a) confirm consensus on replacing the existing template-based system with a "glossary" system. (b) discuss how glossaries should interact with templates (page inclusions)" (sumanah, 21:01:24)
    • much discussion about Chinese Wikipedia(s), language variant usage (we don't have enough stats probably about this), existing Parsoid team plans, community consensus issues (sumanah, 21:24:46)
    • AGREED: more discussion onlist (sumanah, 21:29:45)
  • square bounding boxes (sumanah, 21:29:56)
    • LINK: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Square_bounding_boxes (sumanah, 21:29:57)
    • "The current mediawiki syntax for image thumbnails and resizing works poorly for images which are taller than they are wide." (sumanah, 21:30:02)
    • "The upright option attempts to remedy this, but properly scaling an thumbnail to fit a square bounding box requires the user to manually compute the aspect ratio of the image. There is no way to directly limit or scale a thumbnail based on height. (sumanah, 21:30:10)
    • C. Scott would like for us to weigh four proposals for remedying this situation: (sumanah, 21:30:24)
    • 1) Change mediawiki to use square bounding boxes by default (opt-out). (sumanah, 21:30:24)
    • 2) Add a new image option to request a square bounding box (opt-in). Proposed implementation in changeset https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120856 which has not been merged yet. (sumanah, 21:30:24)
    • 3) Add a new "upright=auto" option (minimalist, opt-in) (sumanah, 21:30:24)
    • 4) Add a new "scale=N" option (adds new functionality, opt-in) (sumanah, 21:30:24)
    • cscott says about today's discussion: "Visual Editor and others would like to provide square bounding boxes for images and thumbnails, which existing wikitext syntax does not support consistently. I hope to gather consensus around one of the four proposed solutions." (sumanah, 21:30:48)
    • LINK: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sjabloon:Largethumb (gwicke, 21:50:32)
    • ACTION: cscott to patch bare "thumb" to have square bounding box (TimStarling, 21:58:50)
    • pixel sizes, 'upright', strange conversions, and other issues occasion much comment and confusion (sumanah, 21:59:35)
    • ACTION: cscott to patch upright to have a square bounding box, and use dumpGrepper to see whether this breaks too much (cscott, 21:59:55)


Meeting ended at 22:00:04 UTC.


Action items[edit]

  • cscott to patch bare "thumb" to have square bounding box
  • cscott to patch upright to have a square bounding box, and use dumpGrepper to see whether this breaks too much


Full log[edit]