Architecture meetings/RFC review 2014-03-19

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21:00 UTC, March 19th, at #wikimedia-officeconnect.

Requests for Comment to review[edit]

  1. MVC framework - Owen Davis
  2. Structured logging - Ori Livneh, Bryan Davis, and Aaron Schulz. Second discussion, following up on 2013-12-04 meeting

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Meeting summary[edit]

  1. MVC framework
  2. Structured logging
    • This is our second discussion of this, following up on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_meetings/RFC_review_2013-12-04
    • https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/112699/ strawman implementation in Gerrit
    • According to Bryan on March 14th http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/441656 "At this point the most controversial aspect of my proposed implementation seems to be importing third-party libraries into mw-core and/or the use of composer to manage that activity. I would welcome discussion of alternatives or consensus that this is a reasonable approach for the immediate future that should be revisited if and when a better idea is found for the general problem."
    • according to Bryan today: "I just want Tim to say he'll +2 the patch :)"
    • <bd808> But yes, I need to find the way that we can use the external libraries in core or be told that's not how we do things here.
    • action Bryan to update the onwiki RfC with details from https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/112699/
    • action bd808 get someone to +2 his changeset
    • <OwynD> we've had good luck putting all the logs in elastic search and just querying it
    • bd808 "interested in fine grained runtime control"


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