Thread:Talk:Flow Portal/The whole concept seems to be based on wrong assumptions/reply (2)

I don't know if you are right. Our talk pages are not necessary for a subculture to emerge – but I'm quite sure that they were an important factor in how our subculture actually looks.

Assume threaded discussion like they are on this page: They are boring. Only text, hard to read in my opinion, absolutely impersonal. Is this what you want a discussion on your talk page to be? Impersonal? It might be efficient for pure discussion (however I'm not even sure about that) but besides that it's even worse than classical forums where you have smileys and avatars to add something personal to your posts (but I don't thing this would be suitable to Wikipedia either).

If you're talking about user tests: Did you run tests on the new system you want to implement? I'd volunteer as a test candidate ;). To already share some of my frustration on threaded discussion (this is basically the first time I get in touch with LiquidThreads):
 * I feel like a dumb beginner that is surfing the internet for the first time right now. I don't find the new posts (they are always hidden because they are too deeply nested).
 * After reading new posts via the "you have new messages" link I still seem to have new messages, which I don't find though. Actually I forgot to click "mark read" so it probably still were the old messages (although I read them already twice: once on the new messages tab and once in the thread after somehow finding the correct thread again andclicking the "show N messages" link a few times).
 * At the same time I'm not quite sure on which thread I'm actually replying (the new messages tab is just too confusing). Where is the direct link with the content just plain in front of me? Right now I'm missing my watchlist sadly.
 * Just a few seconds ago I did a very bad error: I scrolled the page. I needed propaply 30 seconds to find the edit field again. It was somewhere "arbitrarily" hidden between a flood of posts.

Edit: It's ridiculous – I'm adding a reply but I don't see it. The replied message is still marked as new however. Where is this anywhere near user friendly? I'm considering myself very skilled regarding anything technical but I'm totally struggling with this LiquidThreads-thing.