Extension talk:Moderation

DownLoad
I am not quite sure what to download from here or from Git. Am I supposed to install Vagrant? Please tell us more exactly what to do. --Ruud Habets (talk) 11:48, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Here is a direct link:.

Email notifications and RSS
It should be configurable to send info to certain email(s) when a new unmoderated change appears.

The number of such emails per day should be limited.

The list of proposed changes should also be available as RSS (or Atom) feed. The URL of the feed should probably include a passphrase.
 * RSS feed is a good idea and is added to the TODO list. As for emails, I don't really want to go into that here. If someone else implements this, such change can be merged. -- Regards, Edward Chernenko 10:42, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Q&A
Is it possible to view the revised version of an update that's pending moderation? We can see the diff but it doesn't look like we can see the new page. As I understand it, it's probably best to approve anything that's not spam and then to revise the result. Is that the proper approach? Thanks.
 * Hello, although previewing (as when you click Preview button) pending edits can be implemented, I doubt this feature will be used. It's not a good idea to approve/reject edits based on whether they are formatted good or not, as if you reject badly-formatted edit with good text, author will be offended and won't know why it wasn't approved. General idea is to approve edit that is not vandalism/spam and then either fix its appearance if the added text is worth it, or revert if it's not that good to bother. Both ways, the text stays in history. When reverting, you also can specify the reason (viewable to whoever made the edit), when rejecting, you can not. -- Regards, Edward Chernenko 10:42, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

First, congratulation for this great work you did! We are trying to implement a workflow for some papers publication in wiki. Your extension fulfill most of our requests, and for us would be very useful to have next to diff button there, a preview for pending edits. Regards, --LiaVeja (talk) 10:23, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I will implement this (there will be an option in LocalSettings turning Preview link on). -- Regards, Edward Chernenko 23:58, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Hello, I have implemented this feature. Please try it out and let me know if it solves your problem. -- Regards, Edward Chernenko 00:47, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

SPAM
I see "Reject" and "Reject All" links, but no link "SPAM" for a particular edit. Thus I rejected some spam changes, but http://withoutvowels.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Moderation&folder=spam folder is empty. I want spam in spam folder. If a folder is always empty, this makes no sense.
 * There is a misunderstanding here.
 * "Mark as spammer" button is not the same as "Spam" button in your mailbox. When you press "Spam" in, say, Yahoo Mail, the message is analyzed and in the future Yahoo Mail will (theoretically) filter messages like that more effectively. To detect future spam like that, tens of thousands of spam messages must be analyzed. Yahoo can do it, one single wiki can't. Therefore such feature can't be implemented.
 * "Mark as spammer" is a completely different feature. It is also called a "moderation block". It is intended to block vandals, not spam. Because if you block them as usual, they'd just register a new account and continue vandalizing; but if you use "Mark as spammer", then they won't even know they were banned; their edits will just go into the Spam folder.
 * There are tonns of extensions for combating trivial spam. Noone wants to sit and moderate them one-by-one. Moderation is primarily a counter-vandalism extension, i.e. against human vandals (as they waste time and admins don't). For spam bots, time is of no concern; AbuseFilter is a good measure against them. -- Regards, Edward Chernenko 11:23, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Feature suggestion: Different levels of moderators
I suggest to allow to moderate edits of certain pages only by users of some right group. For example, I want changes to the "Donate" page of my nonprofit be approved only by administrators, not just moderators, because it is related with money.
 * It would be more practical to simply protect "Donate" page from edits by non-administrators. Edward Chernenko (talk) 13:48, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Doesn't seem to work very well with Flow
This extension doesn't seem to work very well combination with Flow. When creating a new talkpage weird errors happen.

This is more of an "FYI" than bug report, by the way ;-) Its perhaps something to mention on in the README... Carpetsmoker (talk) 14:03, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) For now, I allowed edits in Flow forums to bypass moderation. 2) (why these errors occured) Extension:Flow uses its own "Content model" (simply speaking, forum pages are not stored as plaintext, unlike other wiki pages). For edits in Flow forums to be queued for moderation, we will need to add support for this content model. Edward Chernenko (talk) 21:59, 3 February 2016 (UTC)