Talk:Flow/Design/Iteration 3

spage comments
From peering at the screen at the walkthrough: -- S Page (WMF) (talk) 22:47, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 * The down-arrow for more choices looks like the collapser from Jorm prototype.
 * Liquid Threads, Jorm prototype, and current code all have expand/collapse of replies, it seems gone from this version (!?).
 * This is partially answered in this old post on the private mailing list, and partially in the iteration 1 notes, but nothing concrete yet (as the mailing list says). –Quiddity (talk) 17:19, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I know we keep waffling back and fourth on collapsable or not, at the moment we're leaning toward no collapsing in the MVP release Jared Zimmerman (talk) 17:28, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Eventually we want people to be able to star/unstar (watch) certain items (topics in Jorm's prototype) so they appear in their personal feed or whatever.
 * in current Flow extension code: it shows most recent reply first, but I believe we want newest reply at the bottom.
 * I'm confused about levels from the mockups. In Jorm prototype and current code, a topic is the title and the initial text, any amd all replies fit under that. But it looks like in this iteration anyone can contribute new top-level items under the subject.
 * The Iteration 2 mockups showed "10 conversations" and "34 conversations" but did not show nearly that many. Will there be separate [Show more posts/conversations (on this topic)] and [Load more topics (in this board)] loaders?
 * In the first full topic, it shows 4 participants, but states there are 3 participants! I suspect these are "thin air" numbers, for design mockup purposes, ie. inexact. –Quiddity (talk) 17:19, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Trickster comments
--Ironholds (talk) 21:06, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 * 1 landing:
 * At the top, I think structuring it as "questions/ask" is probably limiting compared to actual talkpage usage.
 * How recognised is "Mins" as a contraction? Enwiki tends to attract a fairly international audience
 * The indenting between "Boiled "Alive"?" and the actual first comment seems pretty arbitrary; with every other element, indenting is taken to mean "these two things are distinct". I worry this might cause (at least, initial) confusion - it certainly did for me.
 * Is "state and explain your point" not meant to be at the bottom of the thread?
 * "34 conversations"? Surely that's posts rather than conversations? Conversations would imply different threads.
 * 2 mouseover:
 * I still find the placement of the thank tag confusing; presumably it represents "thank the user for this comment", but it doesn't look like a button, just an icon.
 * Why are some thank icons different colours? To distinguished thanked/not thanked? (This is why we need a prototype ;p)
 * No mouseover hints for topic hidden? I.e., how to unhide it, how to read it without/before unhiding.
 * 3 MoreActions:
 * Suppress/delete have been discussed; hiding them behind a flag button is not going to work.
 * If we're going to have keyboard shortcuts, that needs to be discussed - actions we really don't want to shortcut to, how we deal with shortcuts reserved by other parts of MediaWiki (or the underlying browser/OS), how we deal with OS keyboard issues and localisation.