Project:Requests/User rights/Waldir 2

User:Waldir
I would like to be able to import pages from Meta. I've been improving documentation where I can, but lots of detailed information are still sitting there and creating a great deal of duplicated effort. --Waldir 19:01, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * What content are you planning to move over from meta? We only really hand transwiki out to those that can explain what they are doing and what they will be importing over. Peachey88 21:51, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm asking you the same thing I asked on previous requests for importer rights: which pages, exactly, do you want to transwiki? Will they add anything useful to this site? Max Semenik 22:53, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Answering to both: I don't have a specific list; I tend to edit things here whenever I come to read the documentation about specific features and find that I can expand/clarify some text, or add "see also"/disambiguation links to make content more understandable and/or more easily findable. I can give you the specific example that made me finally make this request: Help:Special pages vs. meta:Help:Special page. Just to make it clear: I don't plan to go on a rampage moving all mediawiki-related pages from meta to here or anything like that. I just want to, on a case-by-case basis, be able to import meta pages if that seems to be the action that would produce the most benefit. By the way, technically, I'm already acquainted with the tools: I'm an admin on enwiki, and have performed history merges and splits there; also, I have imported pages from meta to the Wikimedia Portugal wiki when our chapter was founded.
 * I hope this clears your doubts, but let me know if you'd like any further clarifications. --Waldir 01:33, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Ugh… not on the issue of the import rights, But it looks like Meta's Help: NS isn't in PD like ours is, So that could cause issues with importing it over. Peachey88 01:51, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Good point. I had overlooked that issue. I took some time to get acquainted with the discussions led throughout the past few years and collected a few thoughts on my user page; please take a look. In any case, I will be careful to avoid any licensing violations. Cheers, Waldir 16:10, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Hm, ancillary to this discussion but we might want to think about whether it needs to remain PD, isn't that for obsolete reasons related to GFDL being an inadequate package for Help that needs to be suitable for import into every mw project? I'm not sure that the license needs to necessarily remain compatible - but that definitely needs discussion elsewhere before it's changed.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 17:57, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd love to see this (re-)discussed. The main reason, given what I could gather from the discussions I read, seemed to be the need to maintain compatibility of the help pages' license with whatever license the target wiki choses. CC-BY-SA is fairly less rigid than GFDL, but it's still viral, so we would need the contributors of meta help pages to collectively agree to either PD or a permissive free license (CC-BY?) if we ever wanted to change this. That sounds like *a lot* of work, but relicensing has been achieved before at a project-wide scale, so it's definitely not impossible. --Waldir 03:51, 11 January 2012 (UTC)