Talk:WYSIFTW

Name
Can you tell me what "WYSIFTW" or "WYSIWTF" stands for? Thanks. Kenrick95 14:54, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The original acronym is WYSIWYG - "What You See Is What You Get", meaning the document you edit on screen looks exactly like the result you print or publish. I replaced the last three letters with WTF, to indicate that the page will look more, but not quite like the normal wiki page. It was then suggested to use FTW instead. --Magnus Manske 16:41, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Bugs
Unfortunately, couldn't insert any text. I could delete it, and backspace it, but not insert anything. Opera 10.63 under Win7, if it's any help. Can it interefere with other gadgets? Maybe I should switch sth off? It looks too good to give up on it :D It seems also to be rather CPU consuming, am I right? (large page loaded looong)--Felis domestica 21:01, 7 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, i can confirm. Latest revision in toolserver (link) has some speed issues with Arora (Webkit based browser) but it seemed to work. With Opera 11.00 and Firefox 3.6.13 there is error "elm.children is not function in line 240" of wysiwtf.js. More specific error is in "postProcessBoldItalics : function ( elm )". With Google Chrome editor worked fine. For general usage i think that user experience would work better if templates, refs would expand as whole when one clicks them. Now user needs to click first ref open, then template open... eg.
 * After bug reporting i have to say that your editor is great! Thanks :) --Zache 08:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Speed on complicated pages
I just tried editing Anonymous (group). 218 seconds to parse before I could start editing (browser unusable in this time), and too slow to be able to edit effectively. This is on a Dell Mini 9 (1.6GHz Atom, 2GB memory) running Ubuntu 10.10 and editing in Firefox 3.6. How fast is it to open that page for editing for others? (Need numbers before trying to fix :-) ) - David Gerard 14:25, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * 10.5 sec on a two-year-old iMac, using Mac OS and Chrome 10.0.634.0. Either is too long for mass usage, but tuning before all functions are working can backfire. Premature optimisation killed the lolcat! --Magnus Manske 22:59, 16 January 2011 (UTC)


 * For what it's worth:
 * {|border=1

!Dell Mini 9, Ubuntu 10.10
 * Anonymous (group)
 * Firefox 3.6.13
 * 218 sec
 * Firefox 4.0b9
 * 71 sec
 * Chromium 8.0.552.224
 * 145 sec
 * Opera 10.62
 * 260 sec
 * } - David Gerard 12:09, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Opera 10.62
 * 260 sec
 * } - David Gerard 12:09, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * } - David Gerard 12:09, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Holy crap! 30 sec in FF 4b9, 17 sec in Chromium 8.0.552.237! - David Gerard 19:06, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Pages with inherent differences
These pages do not survive the parsing/unparsing process unaltered, though mostly with only minor changes. Please add them when you find them - they are great "real life" test cases!
 * en:French destroyer Maillé Brézé (1933)