Extension talk:Media Viewer/About/Archive01

This discussion archive includes comments made about version v0.1 of the Media Viewer, from November 2013 to February 2014. Most of these comments were addressed by new versions of Media Viewer -- and other requests were either postponed or not accepted, for a variety of practical reasons.

To give feedback about the current version now in development, please contribute to this discussion.

Many thanks to all contributors to this discussion for your helpful feedback and thoughtful recommendations!

Users of Version 1.0 were asked these questions:

Clarity

 * I like that I can see all the most relevant information about the image in one page only and the graphic display. --Daniele Pugliesi (talk) 06:29, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I like that it is possible to watch more details present on a picture, exactly text explaining what a part or a component of some graph means, so eliminates some confusion of not being sure what is on that picture. Cornel24 (talk) 17:53, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello, it's a very good idea : now we can have a look on the picture without having to go to Commons and then click again to see it in a larger size. It is quite clear, also : we easily and quickly see the picture and the information, and all the links we need are there. Thank you for this new feature ! Best regards, --Daehan (talk) 10:06, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Very good all round. Being able to just click on images to see data without having to leave the page or open another tab on my browser is very useful. It's also far smoother than most similar functions on other sites. A big thumbs-up from me. --ProtoDrake (talk) 11:52, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Неплохое нововведение, на мой счёт. Теперь можно посмотреть информацию о изображении не покидая страницу. Я не знаю, что можно добавить или изменить, но уверена, что в будущем всё будет просто идеально. Julia-Marina Savelieva (talk) 17:03, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
 * It's very good that such an application is being updated by the Wikimedia team. It really helps to save time and in the mean time shows a clarified image. --Shalini Ghose (talk) 2:43, 3rd December 2013

Context
The Media Viewer is a good idea for viewing pictures at a larger size without having to jump away from a page with their file description content. It loads rather slowly, which could be improved, but it is nice I can enlarge thumbnails wihtout having to go to another page to see the bigger picture. Arcane21 (talk) 06:34, 5 November 2013 (UTC)Arcane21


 * Thanks for your thoughtful comments, Arcane21. I'm glad you generally like the Media Viewer concept, and your feedback is much appreciated :) We are already working to improve the image loading speed, but your input is helping us give this task a higher priority. We are now fixing the most urgent bugs, and will be rolling out more tweaks and new features in coming weeks, with our next release due on 21 November, and more updates in December. If you have any more suggestions or questions, you are welcome to post them here, and/or on this Media Viewer discussion page. I am out of office until 19 November, but you can contact our community liaison Keegan (WMF) or lead developer Mark Homquist with any urgent requests. Thanks again for helping us improve this tool! Fabrice Florin (WMF) (talk) 03:09, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

More intuitive

 * I think that this is a more intuitive experience for the casual reader than the current behaviour of clicking on a link which takes you to a page about the image.--NHSavage (talk) 22:40, 18 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I find this to be a much more efficient way of viewing content than leaving the main article or taking up space in my generally overcrowded tab bar. Why didn't anyone think of this earlier? --Yea55 (talk) 18:46, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

What would you change in Media Viewer?
Also quicklinks to other image sizes are a consideration if we want users to reuse images more easily. MarkJurgens
 * I'd make the initial view/popup show a larger image size. The full screen shot of the bird is a great size. Something closer to that without needing a second click would be great.
 * I agree with MarkJurgens: it makes no sense to click two times, 1 click is enough. Moreover, I don't like the initial trasparent view, it is usefulness. --Daniele Pugliesi (talk) 06:29, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I also agree. One clicks on the image to see a larger version of the image, not a smaller version. --FrankDev (talk) 17:43, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I also agree! Ideally it should dynamically adjust itself to comfortably fit the resolution of your screen.Ballofstring (talk) 00:04, 4 December 2013 (UTC)


 * The "created on YYYY-MM-DD" placed just above "by X" seem to imply that the user uploading created it on that day. That will be correct for images taken by the user, but for uploads of old images it will be strange, making it look like the user was alive hundreds of years ago. --Ainali (talk) 09:07, 2 November 2013 (UTC)


 * The smily face in front of "by X" is strange to me, especially with the word "by". Either have a upload symbol so the row can be interpreted as "Uploaded by X" or remove the "by" So it reads as "User X". --Ainali (talk) 09:07, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I suggest to replace the smily face with an icon showing an arrow going in a box, similar to this one: File:Crystal Clear app ark2.png. --Daniele Pugliesi (talk) 06:29, 9 November 2013 (UTC)


 * I'd like to see all the main information in a summary that could be quickly copy/pasted by people willing to reuse the file. I think that author, license and source should be provided in an easy format that allows the license to be respected even if the reuser doesn't know, well, anything about how licenses work. --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 14:03, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
 * This is really important. Our readers are already struggling how to reuse files, please don't make it any harder for them. Note that the uploader is not necessarily the author! (cf. uploads from flickr by bots) --Church of emacs talk · contrib 12:55, 9 November 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm quite a fan of the links which quickly allow you to switch among image sizes. Small or full screen are not exactly my favorite formats :) --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 14:15, 4 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Clicking outside of the modal should close it. Theopolisme (talk) 21:56, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
 * +1 JamesA (talk) 23:27, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
 * This is a natural thing for me that most image viewers support, please please add this. --Nicereddy (talk) 01:29, 3 December 2013 (UTC)


 * "Use this file" menu should have the option to "copy to clipboard" or any other option that can be used together with the VisualEditor.--Micru (talk) 01:16, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, I also thought about this. +1 Micru :) Cornel24 (talk) 16:26, 12 November 2013 (UTC)


 * The resize arrow shouldn't change the size to full screen. It should have several size steps (2-3) before changing to full screen.--Micru (talk) 01:16, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I disagree: instead to have to click many times to see the full screen it, it could be easier to have some links to click to change the image in the desired format, like it happens in Flickr. See for example here, where you can choose the format of the picture in the section "Sizes". --Daniele Pugliesi (talk) 06:29, 9 November 2013 (UTC)


 * I prefer much better other color schemes and designs like the one used in "Picasa Viewer". Related images could be shown in a gallery on the lower part.--Micru (talk) 01:16, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
 * +1 Shubhamkanodia (talk) 14:12, 6 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Give more room to the image. Other sites (500px, Flickr) are handling this far better. --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 21:05, 7 November 2013 (UTC)


 * TALK PAGE! - Wikipedia is all about read-write capability and when I have this option enabled it makes it LESS write and MORE read. A button that links to the existing talk page ANYWHERE would be nice, otherwise I think this is a great tool. Victorgrigas (talk) 04:00, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree that the Talk Page should be more easily visible. I think when scrolling down a tabbed interface would work well. The default tab being "Info" and then a second tab called "Discussion" which would load the talk page in-frame. This will look better once Flow is released, but generally I think adding it in now would be preferable to later. --Nicereddy (talk) 01:42, 3 December 2013 (UTC)


 * It loads photos sloooooowwwwly. For me (on a fast connection and a fast computer), images take between 3 seconds and about 25 seconds to load.--Ragesoss (talk) 03:40, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Me too. Way too slowly. --Another Believer (talk) 03:44, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Maybe we can solve it giving the possibility to change the image resolution. --Daniele Pugliesi (talk) 06:29, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Or maybe have a preview with a lower resolution and only if user wants full screen load the picture in best resolution. Some users have slower connections, others faster, somebody access from smartphones, others from tablets and so on. I think it's appropriate to have a standard resolution for every category of devices. Cornel24 (talk) 17:39, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Perhaps whatever's loaded so far could be shown on the screen, like how loading images are typically shown? --Yair rand (talk) 03:46, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * yep, would a VipsScaler implementation help ? Slowking4 (talk) 03:09, 15 November 2013 (UTC)


 * The file information should be balanced centrally with the image, instead of jutting to the left. The layout seems to divide in the middle between the metadata (on the right) and the description (on the left), but the metadata is much more compact than a typical description, making the whole text area feel lopsided.--Ragesoss (talk) 03:40, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Also, if there is a lot of text/information below the image, concretely not a lot, just 2-3 sentences, then just a part of that text is shown. To see all that info you must scroll down. I don't say that it's hard or uncomfortable to scroll down, but it's weird to see that chunk of incomplete text. Maybe it's better to make it pop up when user's cursor is on the up directed arrow and make that arrow a little noticeable, in rest just to show general info about that picture. Cornel Punga (talk) 12:38, 31 January 2014 (UTC)


 * The transparent background against the file information is distracting. I would prefer that the text have an opaque background.--Ragesoss (talk) 03:40, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Agreed. --Another Believer (talk) 03:46, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The entire page should be overlaid with a darker semi-transparent color -- 80% black, for instance -- with the text in a white box. Lightboxes tend to work that way, for good reason. equazcion � 09:02, 8 Nov 2013 (UTC)
 * Totally agree, dark grey or black semi-transparent background would be the best. It's easier on the eyes and allows to focus on the image. Mayast (talk) 21:27, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Another voice for dark semi-transparent background. This is how most lightboxes do it and it works well. —  Scott  •  talk  13:45, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I would prefer no transparency at all: just show it in another page. --Daniele Pugliesi (talk) 06:29, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, I'm agree too. No transparency will fit better. Or why not let the user choose what he wants? Just to have a checkbox. :) Cornel24 (talk) 17:49, 10 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Each field has its own issues mostly due large variety of Commons:Infoboxes and how they are used. Some good galleries to try: Musée_du_Louvre:Inventory or Stroop_Report
 * Primary Info ( shown above the image):
 * File name - I think this one should link to the file itself so if other links fail (like for this image), this one should be always there.
 * Author - should work with creator templates like here, might need to distinguish between the photographer and the original artist, like here or here. It works here but not here. If author is "unknown" than it is hard to tell what is unknown about the image since nothing says that this field is an author. Some usernames can be also be confusing like User:Vsop.de. Another example: J. Stroop is not the author of this photo only the report this photo come from.
 * Source - source can have large variety of inputs, like here. Anything more complicated than "own work" or "self-photographed" should be skipped or replaced with "see image", so we do not get situations like with this. Source of this image seem to be too long and irrelevant.
 * License Info I think this one works fine: some licenses are recognized like CC-BY others are not and are linking to the page.
 * Secondary Info ( shown below the image): this image is missing all secondary info
 * Description sometimes like in this photo description was not found.
 * Uploader name is this the first or last uploader? I removed a lot of watermarks over the years, but some minor change like this should not make me the uploader. May be both?
 * Creation Date very few date formats seem to be recognized, like here, or here giving "Created on Invalid Date" message when date is quite clear.
 * Hope this helps. --Jarekt (talk) 17:39, 8 November 2013 (UTC)


 * I filed a few of these as bugs: 57307 (date formats), 57308 (multiple uploaders), 57311 (description missing). Will come back for more later. --Tgr (WMF) (talk) 16:56, 20 November 2013 (UTC)


 * The "Use this file" option should generate the proper attribution for use outside Wikimedia sites, according to the license of the file. Rsocol (talk) 19:29, 9 November 2013 (UTC)


 * I think it would make sense if clicking a photo with the middle mouse button (MMB) would open it in a new tab, as opening it in the Media Viewer intuitively happens through LMB. For people editing Categories or looking for fast access to the full-sized file, this would avoid having to go through the right-click menu. (Browser tested: Chrome) Julian Herzog (talk) 19:05, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, works now. Julian Herzog (talk) 11:19, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Now I have the issue that MMB-clicking does nothing at all. It was perfect until a few days ago. 79.204.231.133 16:22, 14 December 2013 (UTC)


 * The Close button (the 'X') should be on the opposite side of the image frame. It's counter-intuitive for it to be on the left side. FreeRangeFrog (talk) 04:54, 20 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Easier/clearer way to get the full-size image. I think that's what a lot of users click on an image for. At the moment, you do this by following the licencing link. I'd ideally like to see a link that does it directly, though. BTW, I basically like the feature. FormerIP (talk) 00:45, 22 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Cool but don't force this to be the default setting without let the option to the user to deactivate it. I'm from the Wiktionnaire (french wiktionary) and on our project click on image redirect automatically to Commons, and it's kind of practical when we are contributors. Vive la Rosière (talk) 01:45, 22 November 2013 (UTC)


 * I suggest to put a frame around the Media Viewer : as it stands now, it looks kind of messed-up, scattered, to me. --Daehan (talk) 10:11, 22 November 2013 (UTC)


 * With the newer layout, where you need to scroll below the 'fold' to read the more information, i'm missing a queue that this is an action I should take. My mac doesn't draw scrollbars, unless I'm scrolling, so i'm not being visually informed of the presence of this information, and even if i put scrollbars to render always, it's still not very visible. Suggest downward facing arrows somewhere in the bar above the fold to indicate that there is more content, i need a queue to be made aware of this 'pagination' action that is expected of me. TheDJ (talk) 18:11, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I think adding a "View more" button on the bottom right of the bottom toolbar, which would automatically scroll you down, would work well. I agree that this isn't very obvious right now. --Nicereddy (talk) 01:39, 3 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Title of image should link to information page, Copyright title ("CC BY-SA 3.0" for example) should link to information on what that specific license entails. Even better would be if, when clicking the copyright license title, a simple dialog appeared describing what the license permitted. Currently, the license links to the image's dedicated wiki page and the title of the image does nothing. Personally, I think this is confusing for the common user. Image showing what part I'm referring to (imgur link because I didn't want to go through the trouble of uploading to Wikimedia, apologies): http://i.imgur.com/4RTPayo.png --Nicereddy (talk) 02:28, 3 December 2013 (UTC)


 * On the Media Viewer, images uploaded by partners (GLAM for example) or during a partnership do not have a visible mention of the partnership. The uploader may not be the partner (upload by a bot) And nobody will click on the "Learn more on Wikimedia Commons" link to see if a partner uploaded it or released it. Trizek (talk) 13:42, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Also, the 'x' seems a little too small to touch on a phone. It takes me a few attempts to close the window. MarkJurgens
 * Touch screen image swipe would be a great feature on mobile devices! The < > arrows are small on a phone. (Until Apple makes a bigger screen for me)

Closing the window
I feel weird that the "X" to close the view is on the top left and not in the top right. Of course, there is nothing inherently wrong with this. Barcex (talk) 17:58, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
 * +1 I expected the closing X on the top right position too. Raymond (talk) 21:38, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
 * +1 I expected too the closing X on the top right, as it is usual in most programs. Codex December 3, 2013


 * That's where it'll be in the next version, see Multimedia/About Media Viewer.--Eloquence (talk) 21:54, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't feel such discomfort, maybe because I'm left-handed and right-handed too. But, I'm agree that most users expect the closing X at right. Cornel24 (talk) 16:14, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
 * It probably should be consistent at least. For me that button is too flat. No hover highlight feedback for instance. TheDJ (talk) 09:15, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

I expected the window to close if I click on the empty space that is available very much in the surroundings of the viewer. Looking for an X is very slow and annoying (even if it was in the right corner, where I'd expect it to be). --2003:63:2F00:D800:98DD:D5CA:240B:868A 14:16, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * In most lightbox scripts the image can be closed by clicking on the "X", clicking on the background (my usual choice), or pressing "ESC". I think that those other options should be introduced here as well. When I used the Media Viewer for the first time, I spent at least a few seconds clicking on the background, until I noticed the "X"... Mayast (talk) 21:27, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * +1 to close the lightbox by clicking on the background. I'm too lazy to move pointer over the close button and click, I just want to click Face-smile.svg -- LLM (talk) 21:33, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Agreed - this is standard behavior across lightbox scripts. —  Scott  •  talk  13:42, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Agreed, again. This is how Facebook does it as well, which is probably the most familiar experience to most users, and... well, it's a standard. Why should we deviate from the standard? To make the web more difficult? One last thing -- Google+ will not allow you to click in the empty space to exit, and that is extremely frustrating--for me, at least. Not that anybody uses G+... DanHakimi (talk) 02:41, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * This is 56402 (Exit lightbox when clicking on backdrop). –Quiddity (talk) 03:20, 19 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Merged into this thread from another thread.

The "x" should be at right and the full screen at left. No ? --SleaY (talk) 00:12, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I blame designers, who use Macs. :)
 * In all seriousness, the new version (on mediawiki.org RIGHT NOW) has the close button on the right side, inside the image. --MarkTraceur (talk) 01:22, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The version on English Wikipedia has the X box on the left side (top left corner, next to the image). As a lifelong PC user (don't go all holy wars on me, I'll consider switching the day my library of video games works on a Mac and not a day before that), the placement of the close box is disorienting. Sven Manguard (talk) 03:22, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
 * End merged thread.

Some usability suggestions: The X shouldn't change position based on the size of the image. The X shouldn't be visible only on hover. These two things make the user have to 'hunt' for the function, hoping it's available somewhere. The effect is I feel 'stuck' in full screen mode. Worse, the image is in a slightly different spot each time based on image size. Please no more roll-over on new usability designs. Don't hide functionality. Display the X in the top right hand corner of the screen. Visible at all times. MarkJurgens
 * +1. Additonally close on clicking empty space. --2003:63:2F21:B200:CE2:8A44:3B29:E754 09:29, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
 * +1 same feeling of being stuck. Always display the "x" and at the same place. I also think viewer should close when clicking on the background (like to say "I want to go back to the page in the background, which is the article page). --Pannini (talk) 23:30, 8 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Not sure if someone said it but you guys need to leave the X visible, a user shouldn't be hovering the mouse around to close an image. That's just plain bad design --Camilo Sanchez (talk) 15:34, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree with this, at first I was not sure how to close the window with the image in. I resorted to using the escape key, which worked, but I think that to roll it out for general use, you probably need the way to close the window to be very clear.--NHSavage (talk) 22:49, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
 * ...and if you use a touchscreen and no keyboard, you're trapped... I'm using a tablet, and had to go to this current page and conversation to understand there is a cross appearing on mouse hoover. Generally, events triggered by mouse hovering with no alternative (such as menus who can't be clicked) should be avoided, due to the generalization of touch screen devices. Epok13 (talk) 22:55, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Description should be on the top
Hi! I'm Himanis Das of English Wikipeida, I find the Media viewer quite in-acceptable because when I opened a file through it, the Source info appears in the top between the close 'X' and 'View license' button; and the Description info is present in the left side in the bottom of the file opened.

No! The description info should be in the place of source info. It'll allow people to access easy understanding of the file rather than gaining knowledge where from the respective file has been derived.

Drew: Am I correct ?

Himanis Das (talk) 08:05, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * We decided to put the description lower because, while the description may better explain the image, it will often also be very long. It's hard to reserve enough space for the image when the description takes up a bunch of screen real estate. We are considering putting the caption in the interface, though - would that be better than e.g. the title of the image for articulating its purpose? --MarkTraceur (talk) 01:35, 22 November 2013 (UTC)


 * I, personally, would prefer the description to be placed under the image. That's where it is usually placed in typical lightbox scripts, and after many years of surfing the Internet and seeing hundreds of websites and galleries, I got used to that. So I would think that many other users did, too. I also agree that descriptions are sometimes long. Image title should be at the top, not the description. Mayast (talk) 21:34, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Media Viewer size problem
Hi, Trying the new Media Viewer & it doesn't all show up (see image), To browser zoom in & out would be a pain so hoping it could be fixed?

Thanks Davey2010 (talk) 00:35, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * This should be fixed in the second version coming out very soon, and already deployed on mediawiki.org - try opening the thumbnail you created on this page with the viewer (you may need to enable the preference in Special:Preferences), and let us know if it's better. --MarkTraceur (talk) 01:19, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Wow that's alot better definitely, Apart from this it's great! )
 * Thanks for your help, Davey2010 (talk) 02:14, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem! That's what I like to hear :) --MarkTraceur (talk) 03:09, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Load image instantly
A thumbnail of the image has already loaded when entering the Media Viewer, so why not load the thumbnail first (it'll be big and blurry), and the higher resolution one will be displayed when it has loaded. Skalman (talk) 07:31, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * +1. It took 20 seconds to load the second image from Multimedia/About Media Viewer. Helder 14:14, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Was just about to suggest this myself. A scaled-up blurry version is better to look at than a spinny loading widget. —  Scott  •  talk  13:30, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Licensing and attribution
I have several problems with the media viewer: --B (talk) 13:51, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) The "Use this file on another website" has a relative link to the image description page - "/wiki/File:Donna Shalala - Knight Foundation.jpg".  That link is not going to work if you are using the image on another website.
 * 2) Many images are not suitable for reuse on every conceivable website.  For example, fair use images should definitely not have anything encouraging people to reuse them.  And even some of our licensed images - if it's not public domain and not creative commons, then we shouldn't encourage someone to use it without reading the detailed licensing information.  If you just embed a GFDL image, for instance, you are probably not in compliance with the terms of the license.
 * 3) It's not obvious which thing on the popup is the author.  Unless you already know who the author of a particular image is, you're going to think that the uploader is the author and would incorrectly attribute that person.
 * 4) We've been telling photo contributors that if someone clicks on an image, it will take them to the description page, which will show their license, attribution information, etc.  Now, that's not necessarily true any more.
 * 5) It doesn't actually do anything useful for the reader - they are already one click away from viewing an enlarged version of the image ... you've just made the click do something different.
 * Ich empfinde den Link für eine externe Seite bei "Diese Datei weiterverwenden" auch als eher schwierig. Bei CC-BY-SA soll vom Verwendenden eine Namensnennung erfolgen, aber darauf wird er nicht hingewiesen. Wenn diese Namensnennung in spezieller Form erfolgen soll, sieht er das nicht einmal. Er kann einfach einen Link kopieren. --C. König, 23. November 2013
 * This is absolutely vital. Any software hosted by Wikimedia should meet not only the legal requirements of attribution, but should provide an example that respects the spririt of the licenses by providing meaningful and easy to find attribution. The summary page does not name the author or link to their user page. The software shouldn't go out of beta until this is added. -Pete F (talk) 23:31, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
 * +1, and then some! The new viewer is very attractive, but unfortunately it optimizes the graphic display by making the attribution information less visible. We need to compensate for this by adding an image credit section along with the references on the article page. Can adding an image credit section to articles be automated somehow as a part of this project?
 * We need to be proactive about making image attribution visible because it is so important to image donors! The software should not go out of beta without consulting with our donor partners on this question. Djembayz (talk) 06:50, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

I love this but it's not for me
This is a tremendous gadget, and I honestly can see it being deployed as the default with very few changes from how it is now. I would ask, however, that if this does become the default, there is a way to turn it off. As someone that works with files, when I click on an image, I want to go directly to the local file description page (i.e. as it functions now), because the work that I'm doing with files happens on that page (and because my internet is so bad right now that the extra loading time for the large versions of images will be problematic.) So yeah, I think that for 99% of the people that use Wikipedia, this is a great thing. But for the 1% of people that spend a lot of time in the File namespace, doing the behind the scenes stuff, please make sure that there's a way to skip the lightbox. Sven Manguard (talk) 03:34, 23 November 2013 (UTC)


 * I like the idea a lot, but I'm not seeing how it's improving on just going to the image description page in the first place. For one thing, every image I've clicked on (using Firefox 16 so far) doesn't appear that much larger in the lightroom screen. I sort of sit there feeling disappointed. I've never clicked on a picture and ended up feeling disappointed before lol. Loads way too slowly, but I think that's been said. Also, I would've liked a darker screen around the image, but at least it's not bright white. Keraunoscopia (talk) 07:26, 23 November 2013 (UTC)


 * You should try the newer version on MediaWiki.org - it's much bigger. We're also working on getting it to load faster by helping test this RfC in a limited fashion, which should make the load time a little better. A dark background is on the way (as always, I blame the designers!) --MarkTraceur (talk) 18:51, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I've added an image to this section for people to quickly see what you're referring to. It's definitely better than the version currently live on wikipedia.org - thanks. —  Scott  •  talk  13:37, 25 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Sven, thanks for the qualified support :) it wouldn't be unreasonable to allow a preference to be turned off, switching off the lightbox. We have a lot of improvements coming to this project in the coming weeks, so I'd urge you to forego final judgement until then, but it would be technically trivial to keep an opt-out preference around for those of you who dislike the new experience - as long as we come to that consensus, I guess (i.e. I can't promise it, sorry). --MarkTraceur (talk) 18:51, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
 * On English Wikipedia, at least, there's almost always a consensus for things being opt-out when there's a valid reason for people to want to opt out. In this case, there certainly is, and I can imagine both file workers and admins wanting to be able to skip over the lightbox in order to do their work. Sven Manguard (talk) 04:43, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Why not add a modifier key to the click, that would bypass lightbox and take you straight to the description page. Easy to do, simple to learn for advanced users, doesn't bother the rest of the users. TheDJ (talk) 18:03, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Adding an off switch also doesn't bother the rest of the users. I don't like modifier keys, because I prefer to do as much as possible with the mouse. It's also very tedious for someone that, on some days, will view 200, 300 images in rapid succession, to have to constantly use a modifier key. Sven Manguard (talk) 19:57, 26 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Do you typically open these in background tabs? Just curious, because if you do, that should already bypass the media viewer (it only triggers on a direct click).--Eloquence (talk) 01:51, 27 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes and no. In certain tasks, like when I work with portals, I do open in new tabs. When I'm reviewing individual images as part of NFCC work, though, I open up one at a time, not in a new tab. Although, if there isn't an off switch, I suppose I can do those as new tabs too. Sven Manguard (talk) 05:20, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Same here. I just thought of an other possibility to investigate. You could have a hover effect, and have a small area that would open the description page. Bigger than the magnify icon, because that's too small a hit target, but still no more than just a fragment of the image itself. If consistently positioned, then that might also work. (basically exactly as gmail shows an image attachment these days) TheDJ (talk) 07:52, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
 * That sounds more complicated than an off switch, and would also needlessly slow me down. I don't like that idea. Sven Manguard (talk) 00:32, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I also would like a possibility to turn off this option. I more often want to see full description page than to see bigger image. BartekChom (talk) 00:36, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Motivation?
I'm not finding anywhere a compelling motivation for this. The feature as currently implemented dramatically reduces the information that's easily accessible about an image, and (despite claims to the contrary) puts the user in a "hard mode" which requires new and unfamiliar controls and actions to recover from. Everything that I can see and experience about how this works is a clear negative from both a usability and information point of view. What am I gaining in exchange? It "looks neat" seems to be the core of most positive reactions. What am I missing? Does this actually do something useful or provide ease of use that I'm not seeing.

A clear statement of the goals for the feature that we could evaluate, and against which we could measure the implementation would be helpful. Aldaron (talk) 13:51, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Problem with location maps
One thing I have just noticed is that location maps where a background image has dot added on to it to indicate locations does not work well with this feature as it only shows the background map. See for example en:List of monastic houses in Devon. This is probably tricky to fix as you have the same problem at the moment - clicking on the image only shows the backgound map as that is the actual image.--NHSavage (talk) 16:10, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Broken transparent pictures
The generated background of transparent pictures is black, which makes it impossible to read any text in many pictures. If transparency was translated to a white background - or better yet, the good ol' grey checkers - That would be perfect. ElŞahin (talk) 03:19, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes. See the first diagram under Nacre for example. Timothy Gu (talk) 19:19, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Regression with where clicking an image goes...
With a note that people may react negatively to change, including one of positive nature, please understand that clicking an image took me to the image page, before, with author and licensing information. Now, the behaviour suddenly changed... --Gryllida 02:58, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Additional click
... with people being more likely, perhaps, to be reluctant to click again to reach the file information page. --Gryllida 02:55, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

‘License’?
It's further made worse by calling the link in a quite unintuitive way, show license, with people perhaps could find file info more interesting? (The info contains other things than the license, it has description, it has author, it has history. Those are all valuable informations.) --Gryllida 02:55, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Keeping people on solid ground
Now, new contributors will also be likely to be disoriented more, without understanding where the image is uploaded to (the image page rather clearly shows that it's at Commons.) --Gryllida 02:55, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

The right arrow
...takes to an unrelated image. Where does that come from? What would the reader expect? What does he or she actually want to see? Lack of logic, unintuitive, unexpected, sorry. --Gryllida 02:55, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Ways to preview?
Please look how other websites do it, probably additional widgets or hints in the corner of the image. (I don't find examples at the moment, later more on this if I do.) --Gryllida 02:55, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Preview size
Would it perhaps leave 10% of page width free at each size, so it's relatively easy to click outside of the preview. --Gryllida 00:55, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Drawings
As stupid as my GIMP expertise is, that's what I could come up with.

Preview button
Note that this is not necessary; it might be acceptable to just change the on-click behaviour, granted it's sufficiently verbose (per the second image).

The preview
The preview is distinguished by these characteristics: --Gryllida 03:50, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Occupies only a part of the screen. You see that you still are near the article somewhere. You're not lost.
 * Clicking outside of the preview closes it. You don't have to run like a headless chicken trying to locate a single X button.
 * I did this on a light background. It may be possible to do it on a dark background instead, but I wouldn't; people have been watching this on white background for years and I don't regret them.
 * Detailed description from Commons is shown.
 * Author is shown, with license short name in braces.
 * 3 prominent links are present:
 * File details and history — link to its commons page.
 * Commons — link to Commons homepage.
 * a sister project — link to WP:SISTER (or an equivalent, eg WS:SISTER at Wikisource).

Caption or title at the bottom?
I would have thought that the title of the image is less useful than the caption that was there before the image was enlarged. Particularly for a scientific article, the cation often annotates features of the image. This would be a genuine improvememnt over the old system whereby you could eith look at the caption or the enlarged image but never both at once. Evolution and evolvability (talk) 11:42, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

What new Media Viewer features would you like to see?

 * In the Light box I think it would be nice if the image is a link to the Commons file-page. Ainali (talk) 08:52, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
 * +1 (I went into a little detail of this below). -Pete F (talk) 18:33, 26 December 2013 (UTC)


 * In Ligh box mode, clicking outside the boundraries of the light box should return you to the article. Ainali (talk) 09:07, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
 * +1 --Daniele Pugliesi (talk) 06:34, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
 * +1 Skalman (talk) 07:23, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * +1 MAssaf (talk) 23:35, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * +1 Pete F (talk)
 * +1 129.94.239.191 05:54, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Add left and right arrows to navigate to other media in the article.--Micru (talk) 01:16, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree to this proposal in the case you click on the image in a Wikipedia article. When instead you click the image inside a Commons category, the left and right arrows have to be used to navigate to other media in the category. I would really appreciate this function. --Daniele Pugliesi (talk) 06:29, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
 * +1 Skalman (talk) 07:23, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * +1--Saehrimnir (talk) 19:05, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
 * +1 This, that and the other (talk) 09:37, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
 * +1 --Underlying lk (talk) 03:32, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
 * +1 (as per Daniele Pugliese -- the reader should be returned to wherever he/she came from, just like pressing "Esc" or clicking the close "X".)
 * -1. Painfully confusing for a person who sees the article first time. 129.94.239.191 05:54, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Support for multiple page documents (Djvu, PDF, PPT, etc). For some inspiration you can take a look to the IA Book reader.--Micru (talk) 01:19, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
 * +1, the reader should have as consistent an experience as possible, and having a Media Viewer for some kinds of image files but not others would be confusing. I also agree that the Internet Archive/Open Library people would be great to consult with on this, they have been doing great stuff in this arena with free software. -Pete F (talk) 18:33, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
 * +1, 129.94.239.191 05:54, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Zooming would be useful. --FocalPoint (talk) 16:26, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
 * +1 --Daniele Pugliesi (talk) 06:34, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
 * +1--Saehrimnir (talk) 19:05, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
 * +1 --Stu Phillips (talk) 18:03, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Links to several resolution versions, as exists on the current media page, might be preferable -- see my comments below at . -Pete F (talk) 18:33, 26 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks, guys. Based on your feedback, we are starting work on this Zoom feature, which we hope to include in v0.2, if time allows. Fabrice Florin (WMF) (talk) 09:11, 19 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Why not show license at the media page?--Zhangjintao(Connect to me at zh.wikipedia.org 04:41, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
 * +1 129.94.239.191 05:54, 10 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Annotations, for images like File:1911 Solvay conference.jpg. See Commons:Help:Gadget-ImageAnnotator --Jarekt (talk) 19:33, 8 November 2013 (UTC)


 * It could be nice a function to see a slideshow of the images in the same Commons category or in the same Wikipedia page, showing the next image after few seconds. It could be great a tool to create a personalized list of pictures, then see the slideshow and to save it as a .ppt file, so it can be used to create easily and quickly some presentation to use offline (for example by the teacher in a school during a lesson). --Daniele Pugliesi (talk) 06:45, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
 * -1 129.94.239.191 05:54, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for this recommendation. We have included View files in slideshow mode for the next version v0.3, tentatively scheduled for next quarter. Fabrice Florin (WMF) (talk) 09:11, 19 February 2014 (UTC)


 * In the absence of zooming, a direct link to the raw file/full size image would help. --Duplode (talk) 01:15, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * +1. Actually, even with zooming, a direct link to the raw file will be immensely useful if I need to save the image, edit it, and so on. Dllu (talk) 06:03, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
 * +1. Agree with Dilu. It is often desirable to examine the full resolution image. Zero0000 (talk) 10:05, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
 * +1, see my further comments on this below at: -Pete F (talk) 18:33, 26 December 2013 (UTC)


 * +1 129.94.239.191 05:54, 10 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Close viewer when clicking on the large empty spaces around it and not having to search a tiny "X" somewhere. --2003:63:2F00:D800:98DD:D5CA:240B:868A 14:17, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * this is a duplicate of the second bullet point of this section. -Pete F (talk) 18:33, 26 December 2013 (UTC)


 * +1; And these large empty spaces should be there instead of black thing everywhere ... 129.94.239.191 05:54, 10 February 2014 (UTC)


 * I would like to have the lightbox note somehow that an image is a Featured Picture on the local project that the image is being viewed from. Just because. Preferably, it should note both local and Commons FP status, although that might be harder. Sven Manguard (talk) 03:30, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
 * +1, supporting the collaborative practices and processes of our projects is an important value. -Pete F (talk) 18:33, 26 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Please show the filename! This is vital for editors who want to add the image to an article and for people doing template work. — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 03:55, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
 * It looks like this has been addressed. -Pete F (talk) 18:33, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
 * +1 129.94.239.191 05:54, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Different resolutions. MrScorch6200 (talk) 17:10, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
 * +1, see my more detailed comments below at -Pete F (talk) 18:33, 26 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Please provide a link to the actual file page on Commons or wherever the image is hosted. John Reaves (talk) 03:01, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
 * +1 129.94.239.191 05:54, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * When paging with the arrows trough images on a page, use short css transformations to go from one image to the next. That would give the change less of a 'pop' effect when there are Aspect Ratio changes. TheDJ (talk) 13:47, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * -1, annoying 129.94.239.191 05:54, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Pre-loading the next image(s) would facilitate the navigation. Currenttly, loading the next image is only done when the next arrow is pressed. Pre-loading is invisible to the user and greately increase the loading perception time. --Pannini (talk) 13:43, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for this suggestion. We are now working on this feature to preload the next and previous images. Fabrice Florin (WMF) (talk) 09:11, 19 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Displaying a loading indication and/or a low resolution version of the image before the full image is displayed would help the user better understand that something is loading. --Pannini (talk) 13:43, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
 * +1, show indication 129.94.239.191 05:54, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Notes?
Is it possible to display the image notes like on commons? --Hans Haase (talk) 01:07, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * You probably mean annotations? If so, we have a bug open for that: 56666 --MarkTraceur (talk) 01:19, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Some more feedback
Please feel free to ignore/strike if I'm missing something obvious here.
 * Sunrise over fishing boats in Kerala is missing the license at the top right corner, and says date is invalid;
 * Lu3 TIFF file - missing license;
 * San-Francisco-Aerial-View-Photo-5 - invalid date;
 * Tropical Fish Aquarium - California Academy of Sciences - missing license;
 * Pentacle SVG file - missing license;
 * BetaFeatures-MediaViewer-Thumbnail - missing license;
 * Animated GIF - took a lot to load the first time, missing license;
 * 05 Micro-Macro - missing license;
 * Sydney Tower Panorama - missing license;
 * Nijkerk-grote-kerk-toren-2011- - missing license, invalid date. --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 14:15, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

There is no obvious interface for getting to a larger version or the original media file. This is particularly important in screenshots, for example, which may be unusable in the thumbnail or lightbox size and resolution. —Michael Z. 2013-11-06 15:49 z 


 * 1) It takes much longer (10 seconds or more) than normally to load/view an image. Normally i open files in a new tab which is quicker.
 * 2) The date given is wrong. For example "Erstellt am -2147483629. Dezember 1969" (=photo taken december 1969) when you view the photo commons:File:Hattingen - Rathausplatz - Rathaus 03 ies.jpg on Ennepe-Ruhr-Kreis. I don't know from where the media viewer could have taken this information. The photo was made in 2010 see its information template and the exif informations. Holger1959 (talk) 21:32, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
 * This date shown (in December 1969) is in fact 2010 seconds before 1 January 1970 00:00 UTC, which seens to be used like the base date for Unix timestamps (or the  and   API's and similar in standard C language libraries).
 * "2010" alone is not interpreted as a year, but as an Unix timestamp (Unix timestamps are not used in image description page for the date field, dates containing only digits, possibly without any separators as in this case where there's only a year) should be interpreted using ISO parsing rules). Additionally the display format used to render it should not add any unspecified precision (here we just have a year, but NO month, NO day of month, NO day of week, and NOo time of day in hours, minutes, seconds). Parsing should be done like date properties in Wikidata.
 * Verdy p (talk) 20:10, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

There is already a user script for that - Picture Popups
There is already a user script that displays images in larger sizes on the article pages - en:User:Zocky/Picture Popups. It's advantage is that it does not gray out the whole article when showing the images, instead they open in windows which you can move around the page and you can open multiple such windows. My suggestion is to allow this behaviour in Media Viewer as well. --V111P (talk) 21:37, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
 * media viewer hangs on large images (over 50mb) ? integrating VipsScaler would be a nice fix ? Slowking4 (talk) 03:32, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Sorry
Simply adjust the settings in preferences (appearance / file) for quick viewing and better than what is proposed by default. I use daily (1280x1024) and 300px for miniature; Its gives a result better and faster than what is proposed by this beta. The caption data is very fragmented and they are not directly accessible. This gadget is slow and I do not see the interest. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 13:36, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Invalid date
All my pictures have correct dates and times in the information template. The information template translates the dates correctly to different languages. However, this viewers says that the date is "Invalid". Barcex (talk) 18:05, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Same for me, all my images are tagged with the global standard time and date notation (2013-09-07 17:59:30). In the normal view, this is interpreted correctly, the Media Viewer regards it as "invalid". Julian Herzog (talk) 15:08, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Interestingly, as I just found out, it's interpreted correctly here: commons:File:Eurojet EJ200 for Eurofighter Typhoon PAS 2013 01 free.jpg, only the displayed format of the date is still wrong then (what's "6/19/2013"?). I have my date display preference set to "2013-11-10T15:11:17", but that seems to be ignored. Julian Herzog (talk) 15:12, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * +1 Im deutschsprachigen Layout ist die Zeitangabe auch nur als "invalide date" zu sehen. --C. König, 23. November 2013
 * Curiously, if I set my language in English I get the date in Spanish: "Created on jueves, 30 de mayo de 2013". Setting my language in Spanish, or any other one, I get "Invalid date" for the same image. --Vriullop (talk) 09:58, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Because invalid date on my photos?--Paulo rsmenezes (talk) 11:15, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

The "x", again
So the X moved to the right side, good. But there are still problems (Firefox): Skalman (talk) 07:21, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Before the first image has loaded it is visible on the top right
 * While an image is loading, the X isn't visible (important if you're on a slow connection)
 * You have to hover the image to see the X (annoying for small images) (why can't it be in the very top right always?)
 * I imagine that people with poor eyesight will have problems seeing the X. Add more/darker shadow
 * It goes off the screen if I scroll down to view (I suggest position:fixed)

After enabling the feature, I also have this comment: --Pannini (talk) 23:20, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
 * the "x" should be always visible, displaying it only on hover needs discoverability, for small images this is not obvious.
 * I think research has to be done to decide if it should be placed at top right of the image, or top right of the viewer page (always at the same place, independently from the image size).

I agree on the visibility/discoverability issue. I opened an image, and then when I wanted to close it I couldn't figure it out right away. First, I tried clicking on the background page - many similar image viewers support that as a way to close the image. Then I tried scrolling to see if somehow the close link got hidden off an edge of the page. I only found the X when I happened to move the mouse over the image on the way to somewhere else. I didn't think to hover over the image, because it seems strange to click on the image in order to close it. Katie Ryan A (talk) 15:35, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Wouldn't the "x" be easiest to find if it was in the top right corner (not of the image, but on the very right of the browser space, on black background, always visible). Of course, if the image dimensions are right, it will extend to the very right corner of the space. Then, the current system makes sense. But because the dimensions have to match perfectly for that, it's a rare case anyway. Julian Herzog (talk) 10:25, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Jiggle when resizing the window
Resizing the window (e.g. by going to fullscreen mode) makes the UI jiggle around a bit (Firefox). Skalman (talk) 07:21, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Some tiny issues

 * The "x" still appears on the upperleft corner. I guess it hasn't been fixed yet. Btw I use Google Chrome.
 * When the there is a template on the space "author" it looks weird. (see Smit.Faces of Lorises.jpg).

--Andresisrael (talk) 14:31, 22 November 2013 (UTC)


 * I believe that the update hasn't been rolled out to all wikis, but do you have this issue also on this wiki (example page with images). Skalman (talk) 17:12, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Text too small in Monobook
In both the older Wikipedia version and the newer version here, the text is very small when using Monobook. This seems to be a common issue with new features. Jay8g (talk) 04:30, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Full screen
When I view images full screen, pressing the full screen button, there is a delay before the image is full screen, there shoudl be a timer or something that signales that this process is happening.Victorgrigas (talk) 03:58, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Arrow keys for scrolling
Usually inside a page I can use the arrow keys to scroll up and down in the page. When the Multimedia Viewer is open, it seems these keys are captured, and the scrolling isn't working. TheDJ (talk) 22:25, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

View on Commons link doesn't
Clicking on the "Learn more on Wikimedia Commons" link during picture preview actually takes the user to a fullpage view of the image on Wikipedia. She then has to click a new link "description page there" to be actually taken into Commons. -- Brianhe (talk) 08:34, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Came here to give this feedback as well. I would like the link to go directly to the file on commons.wikimedia.org. The file's read-only mirrored page on en.wikipedia.org is never useful. --Delirium (talk) 08:32, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * For wikis where is local upload disabled is local file page totally useless. Please, give direct (and bigger)link to commons. JAn Dudík (talk) 08:12, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Seconded, please link directly to the Commons page and save us from having to click to the next page every time.--Underlying lk (talk) 15:57, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I noticed this is bug 57842 on Bugzilla but it doesn't reflect this bug-finder count. - Brianhe (talk) 17:07, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I presume the bug report above records that the software inserts an extra https: in the address. Someone should fix it! Chris55 (talk) 15:06, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

View on Commons in non-English Wikipedia
Another error: in Polish Wikipedia you are taken to page "File:Plik:Filename.ext" and informed that doesn't exist (e.g. links to ). It happens because "Plik" means "File" in Polish and should be omitted, but it isn't. I suppose it may happen in other language versions as well. Szczureq (talk) 13:19, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * It's fixed, thanks. Szczureq (talk) 15:14, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Single & double click modes
I would like too see

1. A reader oriented mode activated by a single click: Show only what the ordinary user is interested in, show the picture in a clean as possible environment!

2. An editing "mode" activated by a double click, working as today, goes directly to Wiki Commons

Svjo-2 (talk) 16:15, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Twinkle
Hi again,

Seems either this or Nearby Pages feature is causing Twinkle not to work?

parsererror "OK" occurred while contacting the API.

All day it's not worked for me & as soon as I disable both beta features it works....

Cheers Davey2010 (talk) 00:42, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Davey already knows this, but for others who might be looking for an answer.. This problem is in Nearby pages. It is being tracked in 57556. TheDJ (talk) 18:05, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Regarding list of known bugs
Can someone change the "many known bugs" link in this page's lead section to one that does not require a Bugzilla login (probably using the regular Bugzilla search feature, which does not appear to generate a  query parameter on other installations I've tried) or explain why this is not possible? --SoledadKabocha (talk) 01:12, 23 November 2013 (UTC) (+clarified 18:28, 23 November 2013 (UTC))
 * Does [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&component=MultimediaViewer this link] work for you? --TMg 13:50, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, that works. --SoledadKabocha (talk) 01:41, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Categories?
When you click on an image and the viewer displays it, the categories in which the image lives are not included. Unless I am overlooking something? --Another Believer (talk) 19:30, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
 * You observed correctly. TheDJ (talk) 20:05, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree that this is a significant problem. If one of the goals is to help the reader browse and discover content on Commons, categories seem like an indispensible tool for doing that. Flickr offers tags and sets in its Media Viewer. Are we content to offer nothing analogous on Commons? -Pete F (talk) 18:19, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Right. It's well pointed. I was thinking that something is wrong, something is missing :D Very, very important to have access to images in Commons.

Date with time
The creation time of is shown as "Invalid Date" on this article from it.wiki. I think it's because the time is included in the date field, it should be fixed because (at least until some time ago) Wikimedia Commons' Upload Wizard detected and inserted the time by default when uploading a file. --Una giornata uggiosa &#39;94 (talk) 22:31, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Request - file page link
I like the viewer to view but I cant click through to the image page can a link be added so that its one click away. Gnangarra (talk) 01:24, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

"Invalid date"
Hi.

Instead of displaying "Invalid Date" (e.g. for ) you should display "&mdash;" or add it (the message) to translations and change it to something more appropriate for end-users (e.g. "unknown" or something like that). --Nux (talk) 18:02, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Slow
It seems that this is slower to show the image than simply loading the whole page which takes away the appeal for me. Rmhermen (talk) 21:42, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Tears of Africa


 * +1, I have the same impression. File Description Site loads almost instantly with image. Media Viewer needs like 3 seconds to display image. --2003:63:2F00:D800:946B:F52D:F075:BC6D 11:30, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * This has mostly to do with the fact that the image thumbnail used for file pages is often already generated. For the lightbox it still needs to be done while it is requesting the image. The developers are aware of this and working on a solution TheDJ (talk) 12:54, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Too slow to be useful Shoshie8 (talk) 21:03, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Invalid date (RuWiki)
What's happened with date in Russian Wikipedia? All files dated: -2147483629 December 1969. --U-leo (talk) 15:53, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Sideways scrolling opens Media Viewer
When scrolling sideways with the arrow keys or touchpad, the media viewer automatically opens, even if no image is selected. This seems to be an issue with the new scrolling through images feature. This only shows up on the newer version here, not the Wikipedia version. Vector, Firefox, Windows 7. Jay8g (talk) 18:50, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

A black background is not the best idea (at least for transparent images)
On transparent images, a black background doesn't work well. On images with black parts, you can't even tell they are there. On other transparent images, it simply looks bad. Jay8g (talk) 03:42, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes! See for example he:טריצרטופס, images comparing size of man and dinosaur. Kotz (talk) 07:30, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * +1 on that, for transparent illustrations, the standard background should be white or light grey. Julian Herzog (talk) 10:20, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree as well. It is pretty useless for the exploded view of the en:International Space Station as well.--NHSavage (talk) 15:03, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Not to mention tens of thousands of chemical structures – most of them are pure black on transparent. --Anypodetos (talk) 12:16, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I also agree. This is the reason I've disabled the media viewer, and the reason I've come to this talk page. --Keithonearth (talk) 18:25, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * (Me too) I have been getting tired of getting a black screen and having to go back to open a new tab to see information. Disabled! Nanite (talk) 13:52, 8 February 2014 (UTC)


 * +1, black text on transparent images disappears completely, see for an example of this.--Underlying lk (talk) 06:21, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

OT?: Activation in Preferences does not work
Using here Opera Version 12.16 Build 1860  Plattform Win32  Betriebssystem Windows 7 (Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 6.1) Presto/2.12.388 Version/12.16) gives me no change in the checkbox for activating the helpertool. Thanks, Conny (talk) 09:47, 11 December 2013 (UTC).

Dark-on-light bug
This doesn't work if the dark-on-light preference (" Use a black background with green text on the Monobook skin") is enabled. This is an increasingly useful mode (lower energy use with OLED displays). At en, its at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Preferences&success=1#mw-prefsection-gadgets under Appearance; this wiki doesn't have the gadget. (Can someone confirm this is reproducible? I have a lot of custom settings.) By 'doesn't work' I mean the text is unreadable.--Elvey (talk) 21:55, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I completely agree with this. Either white or perhaps with the option to switch? Evolution and evolvability (talk) 09:04, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The black background in the large display area may be OK, but the image itself clearly needs a white background instead (or at least the skyblue-whte checkers pattern) for images with transparent backgrounds.
 * Those transparent images (or half-transparent with alpha channels) are unreadable. the bacground can be black ONLY for photos that don't have any transparencies (most of them are JPEG), but this black background is a nuisance for most graphics, and notably most SVG images, and many PNG or GIF images.
 * If needed, include a bacground color selector in the Media Viewer:
 * include at least the choice between "white", "black", "light checkers", or "automatic";
 * you may also include a color chooser, or a lightness gauge from 0% to 100% for using any gray between back and white;
 * you could also allow the user to specify another bacground image by giving its File:Name, that background mage can combine with a background color behind it);
 * for the "automatic" choice, use "black" only for JPEG images or videos; use "white" for PNG, GIF, SVG, PDF, DJVU; if GIF images or JPEG2000 include an alpha channel or maps a transparent color, use the "light checkers" as default;
 * for the default choice among these options (settable by a clikable button "set as default") use a stored user preference;
 * if there's currently no stored user preference (or the user is not logged in), use the choice "automatic" by default (however even a non-logged in user may want to have a semi-permanent choice, kept at least in a session cookie).
 * Note The user default should be separate between the standard website version and the mobile site versions (where black is more desrable to preserve battery.
 * In fact the mobile version of Wikimedia sites (or the Wikimedia applications available on application stores) should also include a preference for using a dark skin with a black background (and light text) as most as possible (unfortunately we have lots of infoboxes that would need tweaking for supporting an "inverted video" skin, specally tuned for mobile users (OLED color displays are draining the battery too fast with too much white color; on Android for example, the default UI is black with gray texts and very small uses of plain white).
 * We desesperately need full support for a Vector-like dark skin supported by default in MediaWiki. This developement should also be made for accessibility (i.e. an option for high contrast, for people having difficulties to read, and a personal setting for defining the base font size, which is REALLY too small, even smaller than the browser's default font size).
 * Verdy p (talk) 19:32, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Maintenance icons in the viewer
This is hardly a major issue, but maintenance icons such as probably should not appear when navigating between the article's images.--Underlying lk (talk) 09:13, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Agreed. icons that are children of blocks with class .metadata should probably be excluded. TheDJ (talk) 13:01, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

On Wikipedia, links don't go to Commons
In the current version of the Media Viewer, if you view a file on Wikipedia, the "Learn more on Wikimedia Commons" and uploaded by links go to the corresponding pages on Wikipedia, instead of on Wikimedia Commons like they should. This will be particularly confusing in cases where the user who uploaded it to Commons doesn't have an account on that wiki.--Sage Ross (WMF) (talk) 21:15, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
 * This is a bug that also affects Meta-Wiki, the links to "Learn more on Wikimedia Commons" are in fact going to the page File:File:Name on Commons. Verdy p (talk) 19:35, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Suppressing CTRL-click
On my Windows 7 + latest Firefox setup, I *think* the viewer is suppressing the CTRL-click ("open in new tab") option, which I use frequently. This seems like unintentional behaviour :) Jarry1250 (talk) 11:38, 16 December 2013 (UTC)


 * The same goes for Shift-click and Ctrl-shift-click. Skalman (talk) 11:41, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
 * It even suppresses it on the magnify icon. TheDJ (talk) 13:47, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
 * +1 on Chrome / ubuntu => To open in a new tab : No Ctrl + Click, no middle click. Symac (talk) 15:02, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
 * +1, as mentioned above, on Chrome/Win7. No middle-clicking or any other direct way of opening a file in a new tab. This basically doubles the amount of clicks I need to navigate files. Julian Herzog (talk) 10:29, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Get gallery with unrelated extra picture when clicking on a single picture?
I clicked on the image in Lucy Maria Field Wanzer and it gave me a popup of the image (good!) but also a right arrow that, when clicked on,. Not sure how that got in there? Weird bug. -LuisVilla (talk) 19:33, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: I just fixed the link in the above comment, which I assume was meant to go to English Wikipedia. -Pete F (talk) 18:57, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

@Luis, I figured out what's going on. The Media Viewer, in this context, uses the arrows to display all images in the source article; in this case, there are exactly two images in the article. The "mystery image" is a tiny thumbnail in the w:en:Template:Women's-History-stub template, so it is displayed when you click the right arrow. -Pete F (talk) 19:46, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

, mostly -- unless it seems worthwhile to exempt images contained in stub templates. -Pete F (talk) 19:46, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for fixing the link, Pete. I actually do think it seems worthwhile to exempt images contained in stub templates - it will be confusing for users to see these images treated as "first class" members of the article when they aren't. -LuisVilla (talk)

(See the section below as well, maybe there is a way to label stub images to prevent this. -Pete F (talk) 23:45, 4 January 2014 (UTC))
 * I agree with Luis that this issue needs to be solved. Not just images from stub templates, but almost every transcluded image should be excluded from the MW, including base images for dot maps and the icons from flag templates.--Underlying lk (talk) 03:39, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
 * This is all fine by me -- I only marked it "done" because it seems far less of a problem than some of the other stuff discussed on this page. But you're right, it is a problem, and it shouldn't be all that hard to solve. -Pete F (talk) 22:04, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

"Learn more on [sitename]" goes... straight to commons
In an interesting reversal from earlier times when "learn more on Commons" went to the local page, now "learn more on [sitename]" goes straight to the Commons page.Jay8g (talk) 02:32, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Hangs my Browser
I've given up on the Media Viewer, every time I tried to use it, it hangs my browser. Using Windows Explorer 9. Wee Curry Monster (talk) 10:30, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Scrolling broken in Monobook
In Monobook, the information scrolls up beyond the bottom of the screen (see screenshot). Monobook, Firefox 26, Windows 7 Jay8g (talk) 20:14, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Link
Hi, the link on images says "Learn more on Wikipedia", but links to Commons. Thanks, Matty.007 (talk) 20:25, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Seems to be fixed, but in ruwiki it requires grammar:prepositional while seems to be grammar:genitive. Ignatus (talk) 19:12, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Malware from Media Viewer?
I don't know if this is true or not, but my PC start experiencing a problem regarding loading videos from Niconico ever since I activated Media Viewer on December 5, 2013 which was a Thursday. The videos loaded properly before it was activated, but it doesn't completely load properly even after disabling Media Viewer. The PC can still load videos from YouTube and BBC, so only Niconico videos have the problem. Can anyone help investigate on this? I really appreciate if someone could rescue me from this troubling abyss, since I'm pretty much low on solutions now. Thank you. --Bumblezellio (talk) 20:50, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Media Viewer bug
Hello, When Media Viewer is activated we can't play a diaporama. I tested it here. 92.89.123.3 12:10, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the feedback, I filed a bug for this enhancement here. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 22:56, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your great feedback!
Thank you all for your wonderful feedback, everyone! Especially Daniele Pugliesi, Cornel24, MarkJurgens, Ainali, Elitre, Micru, Ragesoss, Jarekt, Holger1959, Barcex, Raymond and Julian Herzog, to name but a few. Your detailed feedback is absolutely invaluable to us -- and much, much appreciated :) We are passing on to our development team recommendations to address the issues you raised. Some of these issues were already on our to-do list, but your comments are helping us give these tasks a higher priority. We are now fixing the most urgent bugs, and will be rolling out more tweaks and new features in coming weeks, with our next release due on 21 November, and more updates in December. If you have any more suggestions or questions, you are welcome to post them here, and/or on this Media Viewer discussion page. I am out of office until 19 November, but you can contact our community liaison Keegan (WMF) or lead developer Mark Homquist with any urgent requests. Thanks again for your amazing suggestions, and for all that you are doing to help improve this tool as a collaboration between the community and the foundation! Fabrice Florin (WMF) (talk) 03:11, 12 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Fabrice, can you clarify when you are planning on making the new beta live on Commons and other sites? I think the version there is still "v1"-- it looks very different from the "v2" on this site. Was there ever an update in November / December? Has it been pushed back? -Pete F (talk) 23:33, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Image resolution, downloads, and license
The media viewer currently does not indicate to the viewer that other (specifically higher) resolutions may exist, or how to download them. Since reuse is an important value of the Wikimedia movement, some useful information about downloads should be available on the main screen. As it currently stands, clicking on "use this file" also does not indicate that there are higher resolutions available; one has to know to click "Learn more on Wikimedia Commons" in order to find them.

To somebody not familiar, "Learn more on Wikimedia Commons" is not a very appealing link -- this is the kind of language that many sites use to link to a very generic "about us" or "about this site" page, not specific information tailored to a specific image (as is the case here). I am concerned that an Internet savvy (but not Wikimedia savvy) audience will completely overlook this highly useful link.

The "CC BY-SA" (or other) license abbreviation looks like a Martian language to most readers. It should be introduced with text like "You are free to reuse this image in accordance with this license" (which should automatically detect when the file is Public Domain, and say something more like "You are free to reuse this image, to which nobody has ownership rights.") Also, this text should probably be next to the "Use this file" link -- the license is currently in a different part of the UI.
 * Some parts of this, but not all, are addressed in v2, available on mediawiki.org. -Pete F (talk) 23:41, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Personality rights are currently not addressed in the UI. The WMF board and many community members have expressed that it's important for files to indicate clearly, where needed, that the subject has consented to its broad publication. This tool should reflect that desire.

Longtime readers of Commons and other MediaWiki-based sites may be very used to the idea that clicking the image itself brings you all the information available about the file. In this case, once one is in the Media Viewer, clicking on the photo itself does nothing. In order to respect the principle of least astonishment (as an idea, not a policy), this should be altered so that the second click on the photo (i.e., the first click within the Media Viewer) takes one to the expected place, i.e. the full Commons description page.

''The following issue is addressed in v2, visible on Mediawiki.org. -Pete F (talk) 23:41, 4 January 2014 (UTC)'' Finally, a small detail: the "X" used to close the box is in a slightly different place than on sites like Flickr and Facebook. Conforming to evolving design consensus seems like a good idea. On those sites, the "X" is in the upper right corner of the window, not the upper right corner of the image. (Nice to see that the escape key works as expected, though.) -Pete F (talk) 18:13, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
 * addendum This last one might not seem significant depending on what file you're looking at -- I suggest a narrow, portrait-oriented photo like File:Washington County Fair drop ride 3 - Hillsboro, Oregon.JPG. (The dark background also contributes to the difficulty finding the X.) -Pete F (talk) 18:54, 26 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi Pete F, we are now developing a brand new version of 'Use this file', which will address many of the issues you raise above. The key specifications for this improved feature are included in these three Mingle tickets:
 * Share this file
 * Download this file
 * Embed this file


 * We appreciate all your detailed suggestions above, and are taking them into consideration. This doesn't mean, however, that we will implement them all. I would be happy to discuss them with you in greater detail in our upcoming IRC 'office hours' chat on Fri. Feb. 21 at 10am PT -- or set up a separate call to go over this, since you have so many ideas that would take too long to respond to individually in this discussion. Cheers. Fabrice Florin (WMF) (talk) 09:11, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Author info difficult to read
I can't read the author info (eg: A.Savin (userpage · contact) - Own work) which balck on black or blue on black background. See https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Featured_picture_candidates/File:Isabelle_Faust_B_09-2012.jpg/2 for example. Jkadavoor (talk) 15:59, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Now OK; thanks. Jkadavoor (talk) 07:16, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Attribution in a little more depth
It seems like some improvement has been made around attribution since this discussion was started (but it's hard to tell what has changed, I haven't seen any response on this from the dev team?)

As it currently stands, the name of the "author" appears below the file name. This is a good place for it, but in many cases it is not apparent that this is attribution to the author/photographer etc. Many of these will be Wikimedia usernames, which at first glance might not appear to represent a person. We also have readers and authors from many different cultures, so a name is not always recognizable as such.

I'm not sure what the best way to resolve this is, because in some cases "photographer" might be the best title, in others "producer," etc. But it seems to me we have used "Author" pretty consistently on Commons, and it works OK. So I think unless somebody has a better idea, the name should be preceded by "Author: "

-Pete F (talk) 19:20, 31 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Pete F. Our current plan is to add a 'By' label in front of the author name, which should clarify that this person is responsible for creating that image, without taking up any more space than needed. This is also consistent with the attribution practices of Creative Commons, and therefore with other parts of our user experience. Fabrice Florin (WMF) (talk) 09:11, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Spinning wheel
The spinning wheel icon looks broken/strange on black background. --Atlasowa (talk) 12:19, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * +1. Especially since the GIF isn't of that great of a quality. Timothy Gu (talk) 19:22, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The spinner has been removed in the latest version which is currently running on this wiki, and I think now on Enwiki, too. :) (For other spinner-related bugs, see 54814 and 28318.) –Quiddity (talk) 20:14, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

licence link

 * There is almost no licence info on mediaviewer page, just a View license link which is broken (facepalm. "Learn more on Wikimedia Commons" link is broken too). Mediaviewer informs me that "This file is lacking author information." and nevertheless invites me to Use this file.
 * OTOH, here i get good licence info, CC BY-SA 3.0 with a nice CC logo (but the link is broken too).
 * Mustn't the licence term be linked, right at the mediaviewer page? Not 3 degrees/clicks away. This is legal stuff and it is important for reuse.
 * You need to facilitate licence-compliant reuse and sharing. Have a close look at how people share/link to "Wikipedia images" on twitter. Hotlinking to upload.wikimedia.org, different sizes etc. Use this file doesn't explain how to share. --Atlasowa (talk) 13:02, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * It seems Media viewer failed to understand all licenses, including new CC BY 4.0/CC BY-SA 4.0 Jkadavoor (talk) 08:54, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi! I'd like to assure you that we're working on it - most CC licenses should be supported now, but if you see issues with that you should definitely continue to file bugs. Other licenses are harder to support, but we have them in the backs of our minds. We will support a greater range of license information before releasing out of beta. However, the license terms being linked from the media viewer appears to be a non-starter - too many files are licensed under CC-BY-SA but have different restrictions that can only be found on the file page. That's why we decided to link to the file page itself. As for use-this-file, we specifically include the license and author/source in the HTML version of the share feature, but admittedly haven't found a good way to include attribution in the raw URL ones. In this iteration we're actually redesigning the reuse feature, but there's definitely still room for more redesign work that could include more work towards license compliance. Thanks for your thoughts! --MarkTraceur (talk) 20:04, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Black bar in Media Viewer covering up description text


See image. Sorry if this was already brought up. Sven Manguard (talk) 21:03, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Is this still an ongoing problem? It was for me a while ago, but seemed to be fixed for the last few weeks. Possibly try clearing your browser cache? (And test it at this wiki, which has 1-week-newer code than Enwiki). If it is still a problem, tell us your browser/OS please? Thanks. –Quiddity (talk) 20:17, 19 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Actually this seems like a bug relating to the image in question not having source or author, so the description is the first thing that shows up after the title. I will see if I can reproduce this locally. We will track this bug at Mingle. --MarkTraceur (talk) 19:54, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback!
Thank you all for your thoughtful comments about the Media Viewer! Your suggestions are really helpful to our multimedia team, and we have been acting on many of them already.

Some of your key recommendations have been outlined in this feedback section of our main product page, then turned into concrete action items on our Mingle project management system.

For example, requests for a larger image size (by MarkJurgens, Daniele Pugliesi, Frank Schulenburg) and a darker background (Ragesoss, Another Believer, equazcion, Daniele Pugliesi, Cornel24, Kelvinsong) have already been addressed in the current version. Concerns about slow image load (by (Mono, Arcane21, Ragesoss, Another Believer, Daniele Pugliesi, Cornel24, Holger1959) have been the focus of a couple development sprints devoted to improving performance in a variety of ways (see #154, #155, #126 or #146, to name but a few possible solutions). We're also taking to heart the many recommendations that we improve the 'Use this file' panel to attribute files correctly, with a quick summary of author, source and license (Amada44, Elitre, Church of emacs, Rsocol): these are being addressed in this new 'Use this file' panel which includes attribution-friendly Embed, Download and other functions. Requests for a Zoom feature are now being designed on this card. Other requests for a pop-up explaining the license terms are now under development (see cards #118 and #197); and we're preparing a whole new batch of features to support slideshows and other file formats, as described in this updated 'Next Version' section of our overview page for Media Viewer.

These are just some examples of how your insights are being incorporated in our release plans. We're also reviewing your longer-term recommendations, which will take more time to implement, but are under consideration nonetheless. Our focus this quarter is on completing the current version v0.2 and starting work on the next version v0.3 of the Media Viewer, to provide a better viewing experience for all users.

Sorry if we haven't been more responsive on this page in recent weeks: we have all been busy improving the product, based on your earlier feedback. In a few days, we will invite your comments on an updated beta version v0.2, which we are about to release shortly. As that date approaches, we will start archiving many of the comments above which have been addressed, to reduce clutter and to invite us all to focus on the new features and improvements. To keep up with our work and participate in our conversations, we also invite you to subscribe to our multimedia mailing list. And if you're feeling adventurous, you can test the latest features before they are released, on this beta site, but performance will be much slower on that site (you will also need to create an account, then enable Media Viewer in your Beta preferences).

Thanks again to everyone who has already contributed so productively on this page: keep your great insights coming! Keegan, MarkTraceur, other team members and I will do our best to answer your questions (for a faster response, you are welcome to mention our user name in your comments, so we are notified and can get back to you more quickly). But even if don't always respond right away, rest assured that we are reading your comments and considering every suggestion carefully. :) Fabrice Florin (WMF) (talk) 21:35, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks! A half of my suggestions weren't there. I've added them in. --Gryllida 05:55, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm particularly surprised that 'make preview bigger' and others are on the list, while I didn't expect it to occupy the whole page. Previously the preview shown on image click (without media viewer) was rather small. Having a small preview benefits the reader as he sees that he did not leave the article and didn't enter a weird new full-screen app. Some might think was "was I hacked?" or "where did I come?". --Gryllida 06:04, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Gryllida. We're reviewing your suggestions and will respond to them once we've heard from team members. As a rule of thumb, we tend to implement features which are requested by large number of users, rather than individual requests by a single community member. For example, I understand you are a big proponent of a proposed 'Preview' function, though I'm not hearing this as being a priority feature from other team or community members. I should also point out that this proposal doesn't match best practices on other top multimedia sites we've been studying for this upgrade. So I am not optimistic that this particular feature would be implemented in the near-term, though we will give it careful consideration for future releases. On the other hand, I'm happy to let you know that we plan to implement other features you are advocating, such as making the link to the file repository more prominent, as well as support for multiple page documents. Thanks again for your interest in this project. Fabrice Florin (WMF) (talk) 01:03, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
 * It'd be interesting to learn that websites have a best practice of ... occupying a whole page with a preview, with black non-transparent background. I'll watch the presentation, expect it to be interesting. :-) Again thanks for the detail. Gryllida 05:45, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Transparency
The lightbox doesn't really work that well with transparent images. Might I suggest: or or


 * Thanks for the feedback. I'll pass it along to development and we'll see if it helps. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 20:47, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Towards enabling the Media Viewer by default
It appears likely to me that, whenever the time comes, enabling the Media Viewer by default will be rejected by the Wikimedia community, for reasons deriving from our shared vision for all people to freely share in the sum of all knowledge. I think that would be unfortunate, considering all the good work that has gone into it, so I'd like to point out the high-level issues I see. I hope Fabrice and the engineering team will take a step back as well, and consider adjusting feature priorities accordingly. (Maybe this is already part of the plan; but recent communications make it appear that it's getting missed.)

According to the engineering team, the Media Viewer aims for three goals:
 * Provide a richer multimedia experience
 * Display images in larger size
 * Reduce confusion

These are worthy goals, and I'm sure all serious Wikimedians would support them. When the question gets raised, though, of whether to replace the current default view with the MV, less lofty considerations will come into play: does this new feature sufficiently meet the basic requirements already, more or less, met by the current default view? I think the answer is a decisive "no," and am skeptical about whether the apparent plan for refining the Media Viewer will change that.

What requirements am I talking about? I would summarize them as follows:
 * 1) Are all copyrights and personality rights adequately protected?
 * 2) Have we met the minimum legal standard?
 * 3) Have we met the expectations of rights-holders sufficiently that they will feel good about contributing to Wikimedia projects?
 * 4) Are (potential) reusers shown a clear path forward?
 * 5) Are they given sufficient guidance in overcoming practical obstacles to reusing materials presented by the Media Viewer?
 * 6) Are they given sufficient guidance in meeting relevant legal obligations?
 * 7) Are they given sufficiently convenient access to the right links, including a file download link?
 * 8) Have we appropriately exposed the strengths of Wikimedia Commons to our users? For instance:
 * 9) Commons provides strong assurances that all its content is freely reusable, with minimal requirements, unlike Flickr and other repositories. Is that expressed clearly?
 * 10) Commons is more organized than media repositories like Flickr (eg, category system).
 * 11) Commons invites anybody to contribute materials that serve its educational mission.

While my list above may or may not be complete, I am pretty sure it more or less reflects what most Wikimedians will have in mind, when considering whether or not the Media Viewer should be enabled by default. Whether the Media Viewer has exciting and worthwhile new features is certainly important, but it is subordinate to meeting the minimum standard of reflecting our shared values, at least as adequately as the current default media view does.

Current efforts to refine the Media Viewer seem (to me) to be missing the significance of these basic considerations. I would expect that, unless the engineering team prioritizes feedback relating to basic adequacy (reflected, more or less, by my numbered list above) more highly than feedback about improving functionality, the Media Viewer will not (and should not) be approved as a default feature by the Wikimedia community. -Pete F (talk) 04:36, 16 February 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm not a developer of this project, but do know quite a bit about it where it's coming from and I can tell you that at least the first consideration is high on the visibility list of the team. HOWEVER. it is also the most difficult problem to solve and requires a lot of technical work. This work is taking place, but it is not directly visible to most users. This frontend is using a new API to get the information that you are pointing out, and that will be developed specifically to meet these goals. BUT there is still a lot of work to do there and in the way we register licenses and copyrights of files. This project is being used as the driving force to develop this new API. I too would suggest not to enable this for ALL anonymous users until that goal is met, but having it as beta will help garner the feedback that is required to develop the backend systems for license/copyrights/authors.


 * I have recently met this team and I have great confidence in them. But I too support your statement that the team needs to watch out for the above concerns. Especially the Commons and top 5 wikipedia projects are sticklers for correctness when it comes to legal requirements and EDUCATING users regarding licensing. These aspects need to be extremely well thought out and balanced, so any development would at some point have to be validated against these basic community principals. TheDJ (talk) 11:40, 17 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Pete F, thanks again for your thoughtful recommendations above, which we are reviewing. We are now hard at work on addressing the first two points you raise above about copyright protection and appropriate tools for re-users. Regarding your third point, Media Viewer already links to Commons in many places, and we will consider making those links even more prominent, while still aiming to reduce confusion for users. We would be happy to discuss your advice in greater detail in our upcoming IRC 'office hours' chat this Fri. Feb. 21 at 10am PT -- and am also open to a separate call to go over this 1:1, if you like. Thanks again, and regards as ever. Fabrice Florin (WMF) (talk) 09:11, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

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The minimum dimensions are required for existence are 6 space dimensions and 27 time dimensions (all combination of the past-present-future the basic time dimensions are of 9) which can be drawn on vector diagrams The beginning of infinity and the end of infinity is number zero Now I am sending you the proofs from the Revelation of the Bible and with other reference is the Eternal Voice At first I start with The Eternal Voice The sacred syllables of world religions contains the Holy numbers for the Supreme Holy Manifestations. Number Zero = Brahman, Alláh, Jahveh, Most Great Spirit, Absolute Unknown Essence, All three Christ and the Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ, Bahá’u’lláh, Holy Ghost (Alpha & Omega), Sat-Kit-ananda, Siva, the infinite Preexistence of the TIMEBOMB, infinite Space Universe), Thine Own Being and the Entity of Nothing The beginning of infinity is number zero and the end of infinity is number zero again. Holy Number 1 =  Brahma, Lord Krishna Holy Number 2 =  Vishnu and Vishnu Yasha (Kalki) Holy Number 3  = Lord Krishna, Siva Holy Number 4 = Jesus Christ Holy Number 5 = Báb, Bahá’i Faith Holy Number 6 = (Shield of David, 12 tribes) Abraham, Moses, Zoroaster= 666 Holy Number 7 = Muhammad Holy Number 8 = Siddhartha Gautama- Buddha Holy Number 9 = Bahá = Bahá’ulláh Holy Number 10 = Holy Mariner, the Wonders of Creation, the Midmost-Heart of Creation

The sacred syllable a-u-m pronounced “om” referred to the Hindu Trinity of Vishnu, Brahma, and Siva and symbolized the abstract unity of the Universe absolute (a) is the Holy number 1 and relative (u) is the Holy number 2 and are related (m) Holy number 3 Geometry in the syllable is converted into numbers: absolute (a) has three ends are Holy number 1-2-3 and contains one point of intersection which counts for Holy number 4; and relative (u) has 2 ends counts for Holy number 1-2; are related (m) consists of 2 parts one has 2 ends stands for Holy number 1-2 and the second sign stands for Holy number 1 and when you add the two together sum is Holy number 3 When you add up the highest Holy numbers in a-u-m 3+2+3 the highest number is Holy number 8 of progressive revelation of Hinduism to Buddhism When you add up the Holy numbers in a-u-m in order starting with the lowest number by proceeding to the highest then we receive the Holy numbers 4-5-6-7-8-9

The six pointed star (formed by two triangles) of the Jewish faith is referred to as “Magen David” –meaning the shield of David The six end points of the two triangles counts for the Holy number 6 One triangles numerical value is the Holy number 3 Each end points of the two triangles makes the serious of Holy numbers 1-2-3-4-5-6 When you multiply the 3 end points of the two triangles then equals to 9

The flame represents ”the pure religion” for Zoroastrians, however, the inverted swastika, is one of the oldest religious symbols known, it is also associated with the Zoroastrian faith. The swastika, signifying in Sanskrit blessing and well being, has been traced back to the dawn of civilization in Asia and found in archeological excavations and ruins all over the world. It was a favorite emblem among early American Indians and it is not to be confused with the Nazis symbol whose lines point in opposite direction Swastika has four ends equal Holy number 4 also has one point of intersection that add to 4 equal Holy number 5 Under the flame there is a dish counts for number 1 and the flame also counts for 1 Add up the Swastika Holy number 4 with the dish and flame it makes the Holy number 6 and Add up the swastika Holy number 5 to the dish and flame it makes the Holy number 7 The large flame consists of 7 smaller flames which is also Holy number 7 When you add up the swastika Holy number 5 to either to the dish (1) it makes the Holy number 6 or have it with the large flames then it makes the Holy number 6

“The Wheel of Life” consisting of a wheel with eight rays represents the Noble Eightfold Path of Buddha and considered the eye of civilization Each rays are the Holy numbers 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 The center of the wheel is the eye of civilization and counts for 1 that we add to 8 it makes the Holy number 9

The figure of the cross (consisting of two right lines perpendicular to each other) exists in all things. Displayed as a token of sacrifice in all periods of the ages, the Christians use it to symbolize the crucifixion of Christ and the redeeming blessing of His sacrifice The two right lines have 4 ends which is Holy number 4 The two right lines has the point of intersection which counts for 1 that has to be added to Holy number 4 then it makes the Holy number 5 and each ends of the two right lines makes the serious of Holy numbers 1-2-3-4

The crescent, the symbol of the Islamic faith, refers to the beginning of the religion of God which grows to be a full moon. It is also associated with the lunar calendar because it determines the date of the pilgrimage to Mecca and the dates of fasting The crescent has two ends counts for Holy number 1-2 The other symbol is like a five pointed star and its ends counts for Holy number 5 and when you add them together sum is the Holy number 7 In the Islamic symbol you find the Holy numbers 1-2-3-4-5-6-7

The five pointed star, representing man, is the symbol of the Bahá’i Faith as used by the Báb The number nine is held sacred by Bahá’is because it is the numerical value of the word “Bahá” Nine is the highest digit, hence symbolize perfection, comprehensiveness and culmination. It is used in the form of a nine-pointed star to symbolize the perfection of the Bahá’i Revelation which constitutes the ninth in the line of existing religions, the most comprehensive Revelation that mankind has ever known

Revelation in the Bible The number of the beast=666 Revelation chapter 13:17-18 and chapter 17:9 that is the Catholics The number for the Satan is 13 = chapter 13 Revelation 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. 9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. Rome was build on 7 mountains and the woman is the Catholics The Hebrew and Greek alphabet does not have separate characters or alphabets for numbers and letters. Letters are also used as numbers. So each letter is a numerical value. The Hebrew equivalent of our "w" is the letter "vav" or "waw". The numerical value of vav is 6. So the English "www" transliterated into Hebrew is "vav vav vav", which numerically is 666. HEBREW-ENGLISH-NUMBER TABLE

The English equivalent is below the Hebrew letter (in parenthesis). The number value of the Hebrew letter is below the English letter. The "vav" or English "w" or "6" is highlighted in yellow. By the way, Hebrew reads right to left. vav vav vav = www = 666 Nero Bust of Nero at Musei Capitolini, Rome Nero (Latin: Nero Claudius Caesar Augustus Germanicus;[1] 15 December 37 – 9 June 68),[2] was Roman Emperor from 54 to 68, and the last in the Julio-Claudian dynasty. Nero was adopted by his great-uncle Claudius to become his heir and successor, and succeeded to the throne in 54 following Claudius' death. During his reign, Nero focused much of his attention on diplomacy, trade, and enhancing the cultural life of the empire. He ordered theaters built and promoted athletic games. During his reign, the redoubtable general Corbulo conducted a successful war and negotiated peace with the Parthian Empire. His general Suetonius Paulinus crushed a revolt in Britain. Also, he annexed the Bosporan Kingdom to the empire, and the First Roman–Jewish War began. In 64, most of Rome was destroyed in the Great Fire of Rome, which many Romans believed Nero himself had started in order to clear land for his planned palatial complex, the Domus Aurea. In 68 AD, the rebellion of Vindex in Gaul and later the acclamation of Galba in Hispania drove Nero from the throne. Facing assassination, he committed suicide on 9 June 68 AD.[3] Nero's rule is often associated with tyranny and extravagance.[4] He is known for many executions, including those of his mother[5] and the probable murder by poison of his stepbrother, Britannicus. He is also infamously known as the emperor who "fiddled while Rome burned", although this is now considered an inaccurate rumor,[6] and as an early persecutor of Christians. He was known for having captured Christians burned in his garden at night for a source of light. This view is based on the writings of Tacitus, Suetonius, and Cassius Dio, the main surviving sources for Nero's reign. Few surviving sources paint Nero in a favorable light.[7] Some sources, though, including some mentioned above, portray him as an emperor who was popular with the common Roman people, especially in the East.[8] The study of Nero is problematic as some modern historians question the reliability of ancient sources when reporting on Nero's tyrannical acts The Greek spelling, "Nerōn Kaisar", transliterates into Aramaic as "נרון קסר", nrwn qsr. The Aramaic spelling is attested in a scroll from Murabba'at dated to "the second year of emperor Nero." [34] Adding the corresponding values yields 666, as shown: Resh (ר) Samekh (ס) Qoph (ק) Nun (נ) Vav (ו) Resh (ר)	Nun (נ)	Sum 200	60	100	50	6	200	50	666

In the apocalyptic Revelation of John, Nero is the second beast who, through miracles and the threat of death, compels the worship of the first beast. Moreover, the second beast marks everyone, both the great and small, with its own mark. "Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six" (13:18). (This riddle, in fact, was not solved until 1835.) In both ancient Greek and Hebrew, letters also represented numerals (as they do in Latin), their values assigned according to the order of the alphabet, alpha and aelph, for example, having the numerical value of 1. By adding these values, words could be represented as the sum of their numbers. This literation of numbers and numeration of letters was known as isopsephism by the Greeks and gematria by the Jews (which, in cabalistic practice, has been used to interpret Hebrew scripture). If the Greek spelling of Nero Caesar (Neron Kaisar) is transliterated into Hebrew (nrwn qsr), the numerical equivalent is 666. What is curious, however, is not so much that 666 can be decoded to signify Nero but that the name of the emperor is encoded in this particular number, especially since it could have been represented more readily in other ways. If "Nero" is retained in Greek, for example, the numeration would be 955 or, if "Neron," 1005; in Hebrew, then 256 or 306. It only is when the words are transliterated into Hebrew that the numeration adds up to 666 (nrwn qsr, 50 + 200 + 6 + 50 + 100 + 60 + 200). Even so, this is an alternate spelling, a letter in "Neron" being transliterated (nrwn instead of nrw) but not in "Caesar" (qsr instead of qysr), although these forms do appear in both the Talmud and a contemporary Aramaic scroll from Qumran. It is intriguing, therefore, that 666 encodes the name of Nero in Hebrew when Revelation, itself, was written in Greek. One should appreciate, too, that there were no numbers in Greek or Hebrew and that the "the number of the beast" was not presented as a figure but as letters of the alphabet or written in full. That is to say, it was not expressed as "666" (indeed, discrete Arabic numerals would not be invented for another five hundred years) but as the numerical values of the three letters representing 600, 60, and 6. For Watt, the significance of 666 is that its expression in Latin is the sequential Roman numerals DCLXVI, which parallels but is the antithesis of the "Alpha and Omega" that John uses to characterize both Christ (22:13) and God (1:8, 21:6). As the Deity represents the beginning and end, so the Antichrist is a reversal of the first and last, D (500) preceding I (1). To phrase this another way, 666 (or rather DCLXVI) signifies the Antichrist because that number signifies Nero, and Nero--who as someone who was a matricide, proclaimed his divinity on coins struck identifying him as the "Savior of the World," and was the first to persecute the Christians--signifies the Antichrist. Revelation Chapter 4 1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. 2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne. “, and one sat on the throne.” He who sat on the throne is Bahá’u’lláh 3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald. Verse 3 He is Bahá’u’lláh the Absolute Unknown Essence

4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold. “and they had on their heads crowns of gold” crowns of gold on their heads means the four beast ruled in human history “four and twenty elders” are the 12 Apostle and the 12 Immam Chapter 19:4 = Chapter 4:4=Chapter 4:8 5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God. Seven lamps is the seven world religions and is seven Spirits of God-Alláh Verse 2-3, 9-10-11 He is Bahá’u’lláh 6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind. “And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal” sea of glass like unto crystal is the Bahá’i revelation and the four beast are the (Christianity, Democracy, Communism, Ummayyads) 7 And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle. “lion” is Communism “calf” is Christianity “man” is Revelation Chapter 13:17-18 and Chapter 17:9 and his number is 666 that is the Vatican and the Ummayyads “eagle” is Democracy 8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, LORD God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come. Verse 8 Four beasts are Christianity, Democracy, Communism and Ummayyads 6 wings x 4 beasts = 24  means they are persecuting other 6 world religions they hate other world religions. 6 wings are the 6 continents on Earth Chapter 19:4 = Chapter 4:4=Chapter 4:8 9 And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever, “Him” is Bahá’ulláh the Absolute Unknown Essence 10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying, “Him” is Bahá’ulláh the Absolute Unknown Essence 11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created. He is “O Lord” Bahá’ulláh the Absolute Unknown Essence On the 1st day of Ridvan Bahá’ulláh recreated all things in creation on the 9th and 12th days He deployed the 27 time dimensions to begun the Holy War in all creations Revelation Chapter 5 1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. Right hand is the power of the Lord and with the right side of Alláh is the divine side the left side is the beast that I use in the Holy War in all infinite creation “hand of Him is Bahá’u’lláh “a book is written” is the Kidáb-i-Aqdas “sealed with seven seals” are the seven world religions same as seven holy scriptures 2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof? “strong angel” is Muhammad 3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. All holy scriptures containing prophecies and only the authorized divine existence is able to resolve and disclose the mystics that has been written 4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. Verse 1-5 Bahá’i revelation and explanations of the Holy Scriptures is the Kidab-i-Iqan Verse 5 5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof Seven seals are the 7 world religions with the mystics of its holy scriptures Tribe of Juda is my ancestor and I am the Lion of the tribe of Juda From genealogy of Abraham Christianity, Judaism, Islam and the Bahá’i Faith were established and its result a Bahá’i chosen one shall “loose the seven seals” and reveal the mystics of the seven Holy scriptures which are the seals. Verse 6 6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth “stood a Lamb” Reference to the Báb –Hadrat-i-A’lá because I am the spirit of Hadrat-i-A’lá and like for John the Baptist was to Elias in verse 6 7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. “And he came” I am “the book” is the Baha’i Revelation “right hand of him” is Bahá’u’lláh

8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. “before the Lamb” is the Báb –Hadrat-i-A’lá

9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; “Thou art” Reference to the Báb –Hadrat-i-A’lá with Him the beginning of Bahá’i revelation and fulfillments of prophesies

10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. The Bahá’I Faith has spread but wasn’t accepted as a ruler of humanity being rejected by the leaders of nations and the old world older remained in effect till my manifestation because the “kings and priest” still on power See Chapter 13:1 and chapter 17:10 and verse 12

11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; Number of angles are 10.000x10.000=100,000,000 Number of angels are 1000x1000=1.000.000 1.000,000,000 has 9 zeros and for 1.000.000 has 6 zeros and the difference between zeros are 3 zeros means in 144000 in which the first zero is dedicated to Jesus Christ the second zero is dedicated to Bahá’u’lláh which is identical to the Báb because the prophecies were fulfilled on exact date in 1844. The 3rd zero has been dedicated for Me Holy Ghost and the 3 zeros are the three Christ The #2 # 1 in the above equation adds up 2+1=3 which is the Holy number of Siva and Lord Krishna In 100,000,000 and in 1,000,000 has two 1s and add them up equals The Holy number 2 In 100,000,000 has 8 zeros and for 1,000,000 has 6 zeros 6zeros + 8zeros =14=1+4=Holy number 5 Twice number 1 = 2 and add the value of 3 of three zeros and the 2+3=Holy number 5 When you add up 9 and 6 zeros it equals to 15 zeros out of which #1 stands for Brahma, Lord Krishna and # 5 stands for Báb, Bahá’i Faith 15=5-1=4 is the Holy number of Jesus Christ See Chapter 14:1 and verse 3 144000=1+4+4=9+000= 144000 = Each zero is 1 Christ and has three therefore there are three Christ =1+4+4=9 = Number 9 = Bahá = Bahá’ulláh The beginning and end of infinity is number zero=Alpha & Omega

12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing. The Lamb is the Báb –Hadrat-i-A’lá “was slain to receive power” was martyred and established the Bahá’i Faith “to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.”

13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. “unto him that sitteth upon the throne” Him is Bahá’ulláh “and unto the Lamb for ever and ever” the Lamb is the Báb –Hadrat-i-A’lá

14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.

Revelation Chapter 6 1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. the Lamb is the Báb –Hadrat-i-A’lá “opened one of the seals” is His Manifestation in the Quran 2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. Verse 2 is in direct relationship with Chapter 19:11 The white horse is the Bahá’i Faith “and he that sat on him” is Myself 3 And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. 4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword. “horse that was red” is the American Indians “power was given to him” the leader of the American Indians is the one who started their migration from Asia to the American continent 5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. “the black horse” is the black race of mankind “and he that sat on him” is the Christian church “pair of balances” is the Christian faith Christianity spread around the Earth and the last territory was Africa just a few years before 1844 6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine. 1 penny=1/12shilling=0.0833333333 number 3 in the equation are infinite 3 1 shilling=1/20font=0.05 1font=1/20 divided by 1/12=0.602409639penny=6+2+4+9+6+3+9=39=3x9=27=2+7=9=wheat 27=7-2=5=barley wheat= the Holy number 9 is Bahá = Bahá’u’lláh and Bahá’ulláh’s teachings barley= the Holy number 5 is the Báb, Bahá’i Faith and the Báb’s teachings 1 measure of barley=1/3 measure of wheat which means the Báb is the forerunner of Bahá’u’lláh 27=2x7=14=Holy number 1 is = Brahma, Lord Krishna and the Holy number 4 is Jesus Christ and we find progressive revelations in the number 27 because has four results 1,4, 5, 9 27=we find 7 zeros in conversion equations of penny-shilling-font 27=we find two nines in 0.602409639=3 zeros represents three Christ 6+2+4+9+6+3+9=39=3+9=12=1+2=3 is the Holy number of Lord Krishna, Siva 39=9-3=6 is the Holy number of Abraham, Moses, Zoroaster 39=9/3=3 39=9-3=6 take the results 3+6=9 and 3x6=18=1+8=9 and 18=8-1=7 is the Holy number of  Muhammad and in 18 number 8 is the Holy number of Buddha and the Letters of the Living “and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine” “oil” signifies Islam that has in direct relationship with Chapter 11:4-5 of the two olive leaves and olive oil and you find the full explanation of Chapter 11 in the Some Answered Questions “wine” signifies Christianity has in direct relationship with the bread and wine and you find the full explanation in the Some Answered Questions on page 97-99 “thou” are the disbelievers of Islam and Christianity and warning them not to oppose Islam and Christianity

7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. 8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth. “pale horse” is the yellow race of mankind and refers to the Chines for the Mongol Empire and communism “and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell” is Dzsingisz kán Genghis Khan (/ˈɡɛŋɡɪs ˈkɑːn/ or /ˈdʒɛŋɡɪs ˈkɑːn/,[5][6] Mongol: [tʃiŋɡɪs xaːŋ] ( listen); 1162? – August 1227), born Temujin, was the founder and Great Khan (emperor) of the Mongol Empire, which became the largest contiguous empire in history after his death 9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: “the fifth seal” is Christianity “the word of God” is Jesus Christ see chapter 20:4 and chapter 1:9 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? “O Lord” is Bahá’ulláh 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. in direct relationship with chapter 3:5-7-9 12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; “the sixth seal” is Islam “there was a great earthquake” Bahá’u’lláh had prophesized the end of the two kingdoms below and the earthquake is the first world war “sun became black as sackcloth of hair” in which the sun is the emblem of Persia kingdom “and the moon became as blood” in which the moon is the emblem of the Ottoman kingdom see chapter twelve in the Some Answered Questions 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. “And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth” stars of heaven are the two Catholic kingdoms the German and Austrian-Hungarian Monarchy that lost the first world war “, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.” The result of the first world war 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. “And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together” heaven is the Catholic faith and after the first world war the Catholic faith was decreased in power “mountain and island” is the assets of the Catholic faith 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; “kings, great men, rich men, chief captains, mighty men, bondman, free man” are Catholics “hid themselves” lost their true believes in the Catholic faith and only they found shelter in the remaining power of the Catholic faith which is in the dens in the rocks of mountains 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: “mountains and rocks” is the remaining power of the Catholic faith “Fall on us” Bahá’u’lláh’s letter addressed to the Pope “the face of him that sitteth on the throne” is Bahá’u’lláh “wrath of the Lamb” is I am and see in relation with chapter 17:14 and chapter 19:16 17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? “great day” is our era the Judment Day

Revelation Chapter 7 1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. The four angels are Abraham, Krishna, Buddha, Zoroaster because they are on the four corners of the earth. The point of compass are the world religions (Abraham-Judaism-Christianity-Islám-Bahá’i Faith) Lord Krishna (Hinduism) Buddha (Buddhism) Zoroaster (Zoroastrianism) “the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree” meaning that nothing can’t change the power of the world religions non of any ideologies that has risen in history of mankind and progressive revelation shall protect the previous world religions

2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, “And I saw another angel ascending from the east,” This fifth angel is the Báb= #5 His Holy number ascending from the East “, having the seal of the living God” meaning that the Báb had manifested and created the Holy Books the Arabic and Persian Bayán. And the “living God” is the 20 thousand martyrs (Bábist) See References Chapter 5:1

3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. “Hurt not the earth…….. till we have sealed” meaning that no change shall take place in human civilization till the Bahá’i Revelation “servants of our God” are the Bahá’is Verse 3 = verse 4 and 9 also see chapter 9:4 4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. Verse 4 = Chapter 14:1 Chapter 14:1 144000 = Each zero is 1 Christ and has three therefore there are three Christ =1+4+4=9 = Number 9 = Bahá = Bahá’u’lláh The beginning and end of infinity is number zero=Alpha & Omega Mount Sion: In 2002 United Kingdom Middlesbrough; Moses power-existence accessed into my body during the night in my sleep like what Moses saw (Exodus 3:2) Tablet of the Holy Mariner “Around which the Glory of Moses doth circle with the everlasting hosts;” Tribes of the children of Israel are the chosen once whom will lead humanity through the Bahá’i Faith 5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand. 3x12000=36000

6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nephthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand. 3x12000=36000 7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand. 3x12000=36000 8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand. 3x12000=36000 verse 5-8 equal 144000 9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; “stood before the throne” is Bahá’u’lláh “before the Lamb” is the Báb –Hadrat-i-A’lá see chapter 5:9 and chapter 3:5 10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. “salvation” means when Bahá’u’lláh announced His station manifested “to our God which sitteth upon the throne” is Bahá’u’lláh “salvation …..unto the Lamb” means when the Báb –Hadrat-i-A’lá announced His station manifested 11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, 12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen 13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? “are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they” They are the Bábist 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. “great tribulaton” meaning that the Bábist caused great tribulations in Islám “and have washed their robes” meaning that Bábist have had unshakeable faith and robes means the Bábist faith “and made them white in the blood of” meaning that those 20 thousand Bábist martyrs whom sacrificed their life for the Báb –Hadrat-i-A’lá “the Lamb” is Báb –Hadrat-i-A’lá 15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. “ throne of God” is Bahá’u’lláh “and serve him day and night in his temple” meaning that the Bábist have waited for Bahá’u’lláh manifestation and the “temple” is the Bahá’i Faith “: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them” meaning that “and he” Bahá’u’lláh is also suffer like every Bábist from persecutions but His manifestation protect them 16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. “They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more” meaning that with the Bahá’i Revelation they gain eternal knowledge for which they don’t have to wait anymore “neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.” The sun is the previous world religions which degrading for the end of its cycle that won’t effect the Bahá’i Revelation and Bahá’I followers

17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes. “Lamb” is I am the 3rd Christ the Holy Ghost “throne” is of Bahá’u’lláh “, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters” meaning the non stop manifestations of the Bahá’i Faith prophesies “God” is Alláh I am Revelation Chapter 8 !!!!! 1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. 2 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets. 3 And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. 4 And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand. 5 And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake. 6 And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound. 7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up. 8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; 9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed. 10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; 11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter. 12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise. 13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound! Revelation Chapter 9 !!!!! 1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. 2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. 3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. 4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads. 5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. 6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. 7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men. 8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions. 9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle. 10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months. 11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon. 12 One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter. 13 And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God, 14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates. 15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. 16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them. 17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone. 18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths. 19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt. 20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: 21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. Revelation chapter 10 !!!! 1 And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire: 2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth, 3 And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices. 4 And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not. 5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, 6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: 7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. 8 And the voice which I heard from heaven spake unto me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth. 9 And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey. 10 And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter. 11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings. Revelation Chapter 14 Verse 1= I am the Lamb of God 1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. 144000 = Each zero is 1 Christ and has three therefore there are three Christ =1+4+4=9 = Number 9 = Bahá = Bahá’u’lláh The beginning and end of infinity is number zero=Alpha & Omega Mount Sion: In 2002 United Kingdom Middlesbrough; Moses power-existence accessed into my body during the night in my sleep similar what Moses saw (Exodus 3:2) Moses sent me a fire ball into my existence within my body Tablet of the Holy Mariner “Around which the Glory of Moses doth circle with the everlasting hosts;” “Lamb” is I am “his Father’s name” is Bahá’u’lláh verse 1, 4, is in one reference for me verse 8 = chapter 17:5 = New York New York = chapter 18 2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: “And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters” “many waters” people of the Earth was waiting of the coming of the return of Christ and the Qá’im “and as the voice of a great thunder” is the Báb’s timely announcement of His manifestation and the Bábist turbulences in Islám “harpers” is the westerners whom were spreading the manifestation of the Báb on the west

3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth “new song” is the coming of the Báb Four beats are Christianity, Democracy, Communism. and Ummayyads “144000 redeemed from the earth” =1+4+4=9 and 1+4=5 Bahá’i Faith and its followers and the Báb whom keeping the Bahá’i laws and not like other religions where the laws became merely disgraced idealistic imaginations and adding material that embodied idealistic and theistic tendencies 144=1 is Brahma 4=Jesus Christ 2pieces of 4=the Return of Christ= the Báb and Bahá’u’lláh 144=1+(4x4)=17 and 7 is Muhammad 17=1+7=8 is Buddha 17=7-1=6 is Abraham, Moses, Zoroaster that is the Holy numbers are the proofs of progressive revelation 4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. The LAMB is I am God is the Absolute Unknown Essence (and They are the 9 prophet in the Bahá’i Faith) “These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins” Virgins are the covenant of the Bahá’i Faith with Bahá’u’lláh And “women” are the other world religions in which there were no successors due to the lack of covenant and all split to different sects

5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God “And in their mouth was found no guile” Bahá’i teachings that is the message of Bahá’u’lláh reveals the human race is one and its unity is essential “for they are without fault before the throne of God” Latest most powerful Bahá’i Revelation the most comprehensive revelation that no creatures have ever seen before 6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, “And I saw another angel fly” Angel is Jesus Christ 144000 = 1-(4+4) =7 is the seven angels =7seals are the seven world religions 7 angels multiplied by 7 seals =49 =4 Holy number of Christ and 9 is Bahá’u’lláh Chapter 8:2 and 6 are the seven angels The seven angels are Abraham Krishna, Moses, Buddha, Zoroaster, Muhammad. Bahá’u’lláh 144 = 1+4+4 =9 times zero are the 9 x0 = 000000000 Each zero represents infinity of the 9 prophets with infinite power Also 9x3zeros are equal to 27zeros=2+7zeros=9zeros Chapter 8:3 is another angel appears the 8th And also in Chapter 8:13 is another angel appears the 9th and they are Christ and the Báb 7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. “Fear God” is the Absolute Unknown Essences that are the 9 prophets in the Bahá’i Holy Faith “the fountains of waters” are the holy scriptures 8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. “Babylon is fallen” which is New York, New York that is in this chapter already been prophesized see direct relationship for chapter 17:5 and chapter 18:21 in which I am the strong angel who destroys New York New York on February/15/2013 9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, “the third angel” is Moses “If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, Out of the 4 beasts 1 is the Vatican and his number is 666 see chapter 13 verse 17 and 18 with chapter 17:9 which is the identification of its place that is Rome because Rome has been build on 7 hills which was the capital city of the Roman Empire which was inherited by the Vatican 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: “The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God” every followers of the world religions drink of the wine of the wrath of Allah “ which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation” means that entire Christianity shall be destroyed while other world religions partially “God” is Bahá’u’lláh “Lamb” is I am Alláh “holy angels” are the 9 prophets in the Bahá’i Faith

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. “and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name” the four beast are Democracy, Christians, Communists and Ummayads and all its followers identifies by mark of his name 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. “commandments of God” are the laws of the world religions and God is Myself Alláh “faith of Jesus” is love and His prophesized return is Bahá’u’lláh Who emanates His love upon Jesus and upon the entire infinite creation 13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them. “a voice from heaven” is Muhammad “Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth” Bahá’u’lláh stated that the first heaven was only applicable with the manifestation of Jesus “Spirit” in this verse the Spirit is Jesus because in Islam Jesus is a prophet the Spirit of Alláh (God) “: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.” Alláh’s dialog with Jesus see reference In the Qur’án we read When Alláh said “O Jesus! Verily I will cause thee to die, and exalt thee towards Me, and clear thee of the charges of those who disbelieve, and will place those who follow thee above those who disbelieve, until the Day of Resurrection; then to Me shall be your return, so I will decide between you concerning that in which you differed” –Súra iii, 54. “they may rest from their labours” meaning Jesus’s Revelation “and their works do follow them” meaning the Revelation of Muhammad So Jesus prophesized the coming of Muhammad and Jesus made it clear that all Christians must convert over to Islam 14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. “white cloud” see chapter 17:14 and chapter 19:11 and the meaning of the white cloud is for the preparation for My manifestation “and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man”is meaning that I am being prophesized the 3rd Christ the Holy Ghost see chapter 19:11-12-13-15-16 “sharp sickles” meaning My two certified mails addressed to the Supreme Court of USA 15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. “another angel” is Abraham “Thrust in thy sickle, and reap” meaning that I have begun to receive infinite power on the end of July/2001 for fighting the Holy war in all creations in the seen and unseen worlds of creation that nobody else can stop it except Me “for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe” meaning that I shall clearance mankind on Earth that will start after February/15/2013 when a small planet will destroy New York, New York Mankind is an animal called monkey-ape see evolution theory Creation consist of two kinds of existences and they are satanic and divine

16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped. “And he that sat on the cloud” I am “thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped” meaning that my mission is to clearance the satanic existences in all worlds of creation including Earth 17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle. “another angel” is the Báb 18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe. “another angel” is Zoroaster “which had power over fire” see the syllable of Zoroastrianism and teachings and prophecies “and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.” Meaning that Zoroaster has spoken of the manifestation of the Báb

19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. Meaning that the Báb (Primal Point) had manifested and for His martyrdom I shall make revenge with bloodsirsthy vengeance upon all satanic creatures “great winepress” is the accumulated vengeance by divine existences “wrath of God” is I am Alláh 20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs 1 furlong = 220 yard = 201,17meters “thousand and six hundred furlongs” equals 1600 1600 furlongs x 220 yards = 352000 yards 352000=3+5+2+000=10 is my Holy number of the Holy Mariner and 3 zeros are the three Christ 352000=3x5x2=30 in which #3 is the holy number of Siva and 1 zero is the third zero out of three zeros of the 3rd Christ the Holy Ghost I am 352000=(3+5)-2=6 is the Holy number of Abraham, Moses, Zoroaster 352000=3-(5+2)=4 is the holy number of Jesus Christ 352000=3+2 divided by 5=1 is the holy number of Brahma 352000=3+5=8 is the holy number of Buddha and #2 is Vishnu 352000=3 is the Holy number of Siva: #5 is the Holy number of the Báb and Bahẚ’i Faith; #2 is Vishnu and three zeros are the three Christ The yard equations result is progressive revelations 1600 furlongs x 201,17 meters = 321872 meters 321872=3+2+1+8+7+2=23 are holy number 2 and 3 23=2+3=holy number 5 and 23=2x3=holy number 6 and 23=3-2=holy number 1 321872= it has 2 pieces of two and add them up it makes holy number 4 321872=3x2x1x8x7x2=672=holy number 6 and 7+2=holy number 9 672=6+7+2=15 in which #1 is Brahma #5 is the Báb and Bahẚ’i Faith 15=1+5=holy number 6 and 15=5-1=holy number 4 672=6x7x2=84=#8 is Buddha #4 is Jesus Christ 321872=each number is a holy number and the above equations are the missing holy numbers 352000=(3+5)-2=6 672  15=1+5=6 The three sixes also stand for the beast  number 666 which identifies the city in this verse that is Rome see chapter 13:17-18 and chapter 17:9 Revelation Chapter 15 1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God. 2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God. 3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints. 4 Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest. 5 And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened: 6 And the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles. 7 And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever. 8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled. Revelation Chapter 16 1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth. 2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image. 3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea. 4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood. 5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus. 6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy. 7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments. 8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire. 9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory. 10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain, 11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds. 12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. 13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. 15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. 16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon. 17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. 18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. 19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. 20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. 21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

Revelation Chapter 17 The great whore is Rita Szloboda also she is the favored damsel in the Tablet of the Holy Mariner I resurrected Rita Szloboda on the first part of August/2001 in her town Rakamaz. She was raped by her body guard to death and I was persecuted and were going to be murdered due to my Bahá’i Faith and was under siege for 40 days till September/14/2001 September/11/2001 rescued me which was the identification of Mystery Babylon (Chapter 17 verses 5-8. I lived with Rita for 18 months in wild marriage out of wedlock and according to her I was her greatest love

Verse 1-4 is Rita Szloboda 1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: ‘one of the seven angels” is Zoroaster because Rita Szloboda is the descendent of Zoroaster “seven vials” means 7th century B.C. when Zoroaster appeared on Earth With arithmetic: one of the seven angels is 1/7=0,0142857143 The fifth world religion is Christianity and Zoroastrianism is the third world religion and when you add up the numbers 0+0+1+4+2+8+5+7+1+4+3=35 in which #3 is Zoroastrianism and #5 is Christianity “many waters:” is the Roman Catholic faith the beast and his number is 666

2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. “With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication” After the resurrection of Rita Szloboda the Pope claimed that the resurrection was done by Jesus Christ and Rita became the great whore for many leaders of Earth

3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. “: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast” = Rita Szloboda’s hair colour is scarlet with her skin and she is Catholic and the scarlet coloured beast is the Roman Catholics “full of names of blasphemy” see entire chapter 13 where the Roman Catholics are the false prophet “having seven heads and ten horns” seven heads means the Roman Catholics claimed sole authority on Earth (pope means the holy father) and denied the seven world religions which number equals with the seven seals are the seven holy scriptures see chapter 5:1 Also see chapter 4:5 Seven lamps is the seven world religions and is seven Spirits of God-Alláh “ten horns” are the 10 Catholic countries in Europe, South and Central America and they are Spain, France, Germany, Austria-Hungarian Monarch, Nederland Portugal, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Mexico Revelation chapter 13:1 1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. “and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, “ is the Mediterranean sea “ten crowns” are the 10 popes till today

4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: “And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour” purple amd scarlet colour = Rita Szloboda’s hair colour is scarlet with her skin and she is Catholic “and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls” meaning that I lived with her in wild marriage and I am her greatest love in her life Rita was pregnant from me but Rita has chosen abortion due to her severe fear from her father “having a golden cup in her hand” golden cup meaning that I broke up our relationship with Rita and told her not to get into sexual intercourse without love “hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:” meaning that she did not kept my heavenly advise and without love she had had serious of sexual intercourse with different guys and finally she was raped by her body guards to death and I and the midmost heart of creation resurrected her on her funeral in her home town Rakamaz on 03/August/2001 and the miracle spread in Hungary and into other countries Before she died I told her she will die buy rapes Resurrection is such that it is the most insignificant power of the sign of the Creator

5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. “MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT” is the USA New York New York that I have indentified during the 40 days siege Sept/11/2001 Rita’s  father hired murderers whom wanted to execute me due to Rita’s death and for being a Baha’i After the 40 days of siege I went to the Embassy of USA in Budapest and filed for an incident report about my life is in danger and the death and resurrection of Rita Szloboda and asked the Embassy to give me personal protection by body guards that was denied telling me that USA won’t intervene in Hungarian society The entire Hungarian authorities were involved for murdering me and soon after the Hungarian police and commando came to my house to arrest me and taken me to the pcyhiciatric hospital after 6 hours siege because I protected myself with two axes From the pcychiatric hospital I contacted the Hungarian Baha’is to send over my message to the USA Baha’is to Steven & Nadila Birkland and Peter & Cherry Olver whom contacted the USA Embassy of Budapest and this is how I was released from the hospital after about 10 days. When I was released I called BBC CNN and the national television of Iran to inform them what had been happened with me and with Rita Szloboda. BBC denied help but CNN and the national television of Iran wanted to have media report. After that I went and bought two new axes and went to Rita’s work place treatened her employer and Hungarian authorities where I was arrested again and taken me back to the pcychiatric hospital for about 45 days from where I escaped to the United Kingdom and applied for political refugee status. During the time in the hospital I contacted the Iranian Embassy to rescue me that almost happened. In my political asylum I wrote about everything what had happened with me in Hungary and with Rita Szloboda 6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. “And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints,” When I dated with Rita I told her everything about my life including that I am a Baha’i I have spoken of the Baha’i teachings that she liked it and told me that she wants her partner being more smart then she is and that person is I am We dated for one week then she invited into her home where we had sexual intercourse Rita is 19 years younger then I am and that time she was a college student. We had had great sex every day in which she had 4 orgasm in average daily and her orgasm peak was 11 Nevertheless after awhile she run out patience because before sex I read the Baha’i prayers and one time or more she told me how can I believe in Baha’u’llah because he was nothing else then a man for which I have replied that He is a prophet So as time has passed we had had religious problems between us After our break up of our relationship I met her cup all of times warning her not to get into sexual relationship and have tried to explain why which was clear explanations So after our break up I met her and about 3 weeks later I have spoken of the issues Our meeting was taken place at the Chain bridge on Buda side of Budapest. Finally I told her in my reasoning that look Rita see this people around you and she said yes and I replied saying all creatures are being governed by the commands of the Creator because the Creator’s Mind is the computer that He had granted to mankind then Rita had replied saying that tell me who are you a prophet? I replied and told her I am not. So the meaning of “the woman drunken with the blood of saints” is that Rita was raised as a Catholic and hasn’t change her perception “and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus” meaning that she was resurrected by Me and by the Midmost Heart of Creation 7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns. See the meaning of the previous verses in this chapter and also see chapter 13 where the Catholics are the false prophet 8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is “The beast that thou sawest was, and is not” the beast is the Vatican, “sawest was” meaning that is Nero the emperor of the Roman Empire, “and is not” Nero persecuted the early Christians but he committed suicide “yet is” The Vatican inherited the beast number 666 from Nero 9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. “And here is the mind which hath wisdom” it continues chapter 13:17-18 that the number of the beast is 666 is the Vatican “The seven heads are seven mountains,”. meaning that the seven heads are Rome because it has been build on seven hills “on which the woman sitteth” is Rita Szloboda because she is a catholic 10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. “And there are seven kings” they are the G7 the most industrialized nations “five are fallen” USA, UK, France Germany, Italy “and one is” is Japan “and the other is not yet come” is Russia “he must continue a short space” meaning that Russia does not have western democracy after the break up of communism 11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. See chapter 17:8 is the same as this verse and he is the eight beast is the Vatican The other seven beasts are Democracy, Christianity, Communism, Ummayads, USA, UK, Italy.

12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. “And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings” are the 10 kings of the 10 Catholic countries in Europe, South and Central America and they are Spain, France, Germany, Austria-Hungarian Monarch, Nederland Portugal, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Mexico “but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.” Is in direct relationship with chapter 18:21 where it has been prophesized that mystery of Babylon shall be destroyed New York, New York with the 10 catholic European and Central and South American countries which is the beast that is democracy “; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. See chapter 18:21 Revelation chapter 18:21 21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all. “mighty angel” is the Entity of Life and I am the Entity of Death and the Entity of Life is my Father however I am the Divine Lote-Tree and my parent are Adam and Eve, Noeh (Hungarian) and His wives, Abraham and His wives, Lord Krishna and His wives, Moses and His wives, Zoroaster and His wives, Gautama Buddha and His wives, Jesus Christ is my Son, Muhammad and His Wives, Hadrat-i-A’lá is my brother, Bahẚ’u’lláh and His wives, Abdul Bahá and His wife, Shoggi Effendi and His wife, the 10 Avatars, the 7 Buddhas, 12 Imám, all prophets in the Bible and the prophets of the American Indians “took up a stone like a great millstone” is the small planet from space that is heading towards Earth and collide with it on February/15/2013 “Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all” The small planet shall destroy New York, New York in (“one hour with beast” chapter 17:12) is actually 15 minutes because one day in the Bible equal to one year 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. All together there are 17 kings and shall give their power and strength unto the beast 14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful. “Lamb” is I am See Verse 14 = I am the Lamb of God-Allẚh Verse 14 = Chapter 19 all away through in which I am the Holy Ghost the 3rd Christ “and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful” are the Bahẚ’is 15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. “waters” is the Roman Catholic faith the beast and his number is 666 “whore” is Rita Szloboda who incarnate the Catholics “are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.” They are the people of the Catholic faith

16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. “are the 10 kings of the 10 Catholic countries in Europe, South and Central America and they are Spain, France, Germany, Austria-Hungarian Monarch, Nederland Portugal, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Mexico “whore” is Rita Szloboda “and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.” This prophesy hasn’t been fulfilled yet but it shall be so it contains Rita Szloboda suicide that she finally will commit that has been prophesized in the Tablet of the Holy Mariner in which Rita is the favored damsel and besides I am the Holy Mariner I am also the Youth- Allẚh

17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. “God” is I am Allẚh because when they will become disappointed in Rita Szloboda then they shall give full authority to the Vatican that is one of the beasts “until the words of God shall be fulfilled” that is the full destruction of the beasts which shall be fulfilled by chapter 19:17-21 18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth Woman is Rita Szloboda and the great city is the Vatican

Revelation Chapter 19 1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God: “And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven” They are those people of existences whom had been granted for eternal life in heaven from all world religions “unto the Lord our God” is Bahẚ’u’llẚh Who is the Glory of the Paramount Supreme Allẚhs 2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand. “for he hath judged the great whore” is Rita Szloboda but she incarnates Catholicism whom are in essence is the great whore This is a geared-transformation-transferred result one to another that is Rita incarnates Catholicism that is to say Catholicism’s nature that originates from the beast “for he hath judged” is Bahẚ’u’llẚh by having the Tablet of the Holy Mariner in which the station of Rita Szloboda is the favored damsel and she is the Glory of My Paramount Supreme Empresses “which did corrupt the earth with her fornication” the Catholic church does not practice what he preaches, like most of the priests having kids from sexual encounters with women and children being sexually abused by the priests also many priest are homosexual “and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand” in the Kitẚb-i-Aqdas Baha’u’llẚh wrote His letter to the pope and the pope denied Him meaning that Bahẚ’u’llẚh commended Me to take vengeance on entire Christianity and against all beasts

3 And again they said, Alleluia And her smoke rose up for ever and ever. The word "Alleluia" or "Hallelujah" (from Hebrew הללו יה), which literally means "Praise ye Yah" or "Praise Jah, you people",[1][2] is used in different ways in Christian liturgies. "Praise Jah" is a short form of "Praise Yahweh",[3][4][5] or of "praise ye Jehovah".[6] I am Yahweh and the first praise was with Moses the second praise is I am “And her smoke rose up for ever and ever” meaning that I shall clearance all satanic existences in all worlds of creation that I have started on the end of July 2001 4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia The four and twenty elders are the 12 Apostle and the 12 Immams The four beast are Democracy, Christianity, Communism and the Ummayads Chapter 19:4 = Chapter 4:4=Chapter 4:8 The word amen ( /ˌɑːˈmɛn/ or /ˌeɪˈmɛn/; Hebrew: אָמֵן, Modern amen Tiberian ʾāmēn; Greek: ἀμήν; Arabic: آمين‎, ʾāmīn ; "So be it; truly") is a declaration of affirmation[1][2] found in the Hebrew Bible and New Testament. Its use in Judaism dates back to its earliest texts.[3] It has been generally adopted in Christian worship as a concluding word for prayers and hymns.[2] In Islam, it is the standard ending to Dua (supplication) and the "Opening" chapter of the Qur'an. Common English translations of the word amen include "verily" and "truly". It can also be used colloquially to express strong agreement,[2] as in, for instance, amen to that.[4] 5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great. “Praise our God” is Yahweh I am 6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth. “And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude” are the chosen ones of world religions “and as the voice of many waters” means nations “and as the voice of mighty thundering” are the prophesized Judgment Day in all Holy Scriptures that is our era My manifestation “Alleluia” meaning praise ye Yahweh; for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth 7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. “Lamb” is I am the 3rd Christ the Holy Ghost “his wife” My wife shall be Rita Szloboda and our wedding shall be on Mount Carmel I already have three kids and They are the diamonds of Creation being infant Allẚhs “and his wife hath made herself ready” meaning of this passage is this when Rita Szloboda will hear about my manifestation then she shall commit suicide which will be unsuccessful and after she will be looking for Me for marriage 8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. This verse speaking of Rita Szloboda because she has the favored damsel and manifested in the Tablet of the Holy Mariner in which her resurrection being foretold 9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God. “Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb” They are the branches, leaves, boughs, stems, and offshoots of the New Divine Lote-Tree that is I am the Lamb “These are the true sayings of God” He is Bahẚ’u’llẚh 10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. “And I fell at his feet to worship him” the meaning of his feet to worship him is I am because I am the fellowservant of Bahẚ’u’llẚh like the Apostles of Jesus “and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus “thy brethren” are the disciples the Apostles of Jesus “worship God” is Bahẚ’u’llẚh “that have the testimony of Jesus” see explanations in the Bahẚ’i Holy Scriptures about the station of the Apostles “: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy” meaning that Jesus is a Prophet as He has been considered in Islẚm (Spirit of Allẚh) and in the Bahẚ’i Faith Jesus is an independent Prophet 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. My station the Lamb has gotten up to higher form of my existences and the proofs are My Holy Titles Nevertheless I have infinite number of existences 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. “and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.” Is that I am the 3rd Christ the Holy Ghost which applies to my Holy Titles in all world religions 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. I suffered by severe injuries in the Holy War which takes place in the entire infinite creation “and his name is called The Word of God” meaning that I am the Supreme Holy Manifestation 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. I have two armies one is the heavenly the other one is the Army of Hell 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. See my declaration of My Holy Titles 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. See my declaration of My Holy Titles 17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; “saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven” are the heavenly existences “Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;” I am God and see my declaration names of God in different languages “supper” which has already taken place in the realm of heaven many years ago but I can’t remember for the date The topic of the supper was that Jesus didn’t want Christianity to be destroyed whereby caused my wrath upon Jesus and told Him if He does not comply with my Will then He shall be dead because I shall destroy Him So Jesus had complied with my Will because He had run out any possible option to rescue Christianity 18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. These verses 18-21 contains the proceeds and final destruction of all beasts 19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.; These verses 18-21 contains the proceeds and final destruction of all beasts 20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. These verses 18-21 contains the proceeds and final destruction of all beasts 21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh These verses 18-21 contains the proceeds and final destruction of all beasts Revelation Chapter 21 . Verse 11 and 23 is Bahá’u’lláh 11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal; 23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof verse 23 Lamb is I am the Holy Ghost The city is Haifa Israel Mount Carmel Verse 1 1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea “New heaven” is the Bahá’i revelation “first heaven and the first earth were passed” is progressive revelation (Christianity and other world religion’s cycles had ended and time had passed over it} Also see Some Answered Question page 67-72 (Commentary on the 12th chapter of the revelation on St. John)

Verse 2 2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. The new Jerusalem is Mount Carmel Haifa Israel “coming down from God out of heaven” coming down from Me The bride is the Báb (Bábist movement) The husband is Bahá’u’lláh the Bahá’i Faith Verse 3 3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God “the tabernacle of God is with men” the manifestation of the Báb and see the story of 1844 from the Thief in the Night by William Sears “and he will dwell with them” he is the Báb and them are the Bábist “and they shall be his people” the 20000 Bábist whom suffered from martyrdom for the Báb “and God himself shall be with them” God is Bahá’u’lláh, himself shall be with them is the Abhá-Kingdom “and be their God” all Bahá’is enter into the Abhá-Kingdom which is the highest secret heaven

Verse 4 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. “God” is Bahá’u’lláh and the rest of the verse meaning that what it is going to be like in the golden age that has been prophesized by Bahá’u’lláh under the authority of the Bahá’i Holy World Faith on Earth Verse 5 5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful “And he that sat upon the throne said” is Bahá’u’lláh and the first day of Ridvan when He recreated all things in the entire infinite creation Verse 6 6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely In this chapter Bahá’u’lláh is Alpha and Omega “. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely” “him” is  Bahá’u’lláh “athirst” is mankind “of the fountain of the water of life freely” is the Bahá’i Revelation Verse 7 7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son “He that overcometh shall inherit all things;” Overcometh means progressive revelation to accept the Bahá’i Faith “and I will be his God” is Bahá’u’lláh “and he shall be my son” means son of the three Christ are the Bahá’i followers Verse 8 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. It is the death sentence for the 4 beasts and they are Christianity, Democracy, Communism and Ummayyads “second death” is My coming in this era which is Judgment Day same as the end of the world Verse 9 9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. Verse 9 = Chapter 15:3 Lamb is Bahá’u’lláh The wife is Judaism The bride is the law of Moses Chapter 15:3 3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints. Chapter 15:3 King of saints is Bahá’u’lláh “Lamb” is the Báb “song of the Lamb” in which the song is the Báb’s proclamation “, Great and marvellous are thy works” is the Bahá’i Revelation Verse 10 10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, Great city is Mount Carmel Haifa Israel which is the dwelling place of the Lord “God” is Bahá’u’lláh Verse 12-13-14 12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel: 13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates. 14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. Verse 12 12 gates consist of the number of 1 and 2 and add them together it makes 3 after subtract 3 from 12 = 9 which is the number of gates on the House of Worships (9 prophets) It is impossible to have any coincidences in creation Verse 13 East, North, South and West are point of the compass = points to all direction on Earth = all world religions When the 4 (east-north-south-west) being deducted from the 12 gates the result is 8 which stands for the American Indians religion Verse 14 “Twelve Foundation” = For 1844 the teaching of Christianity was thought around the globe 1844 = 1x8x4x4 = 128 = 12 apostles and 8 = when in the 8th centuries Christianity broke up into 2 main divisions West and East –Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches Lamb is Jesus Christ 1844 = (1+8)x4x4 =144 1844 = 1000+800+40+4   144x1000= 144000 Chapter 14:1 and verse 3 800=8th centuries Christianity 40=4 is the Holy number of Jesus Christ and 0 is Alpha and Omega 4 is the Holy number of Jesus Christ 1844=1+8+4+4=17=#1 is Brahma #7 is Muhammad and 17=7-1=6 See holy # for 6 1844=(8-1)+4+4=15=#1 is Brahma # 5 is the Báb and Bahá’i Faith and 15=5-1=4 Christ 1844= (8-1)x4x4=112=1+1+2=4 is Jesus Christ holy number 1844=1x8x4x4=128=#1 is Brahma, #2 is Vishnu, #8 is Buddha 128=8-2-1=Holy #5 1844=(1+8+4)x4=52=5x2=10 is the holy number of the Holy Mariner 52=5+2=7 is the Holy # of Muhammad and 52=5-2=3 is the Holy # of Siva and Lord Krishna 52=Holy number 5 and Holy number 2 Verse 15-21 15 And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof. 16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal. Verse 16 “And the city lieth foursquare” 12000x12000 =144.000.000=1and 2=1+2+3 is 4+2)=6 zeros in 12000 twice and using 1 and 2 twice = 1+2+3=6x2=12 days of Ridván and the city is Baghdad 1 furlong = 220 yard = 201,17meters 12000x201.170meters=2414040x2414040=582758912 E12 582758912=5+8+2+7+5+8+9+1+2=47 #4 is Christ and #7 is Muhammad progressive revelation 47=7-4=3 is Krishna and Siva or 47=4+7=11=1+1=2 is Vishnu and Vishnu Yasha 47=4x7=28=2+8=10 is the Holy Mariner and 28=8-2=6 is the Jews, Moses, Zoroaster or 28=2x8=16 in which #1 is Brahma #6 is the Jews, Moses, Zoroaster and 16=1+6=7 is Muhammad or 16=6-1=5 is Bahá’i Faith and the Báb 582758912=5x8x2x7x5x8x9x1x2=403200=4+3+2+000=9 is Bahá’u’lláh and Bahá +000 is the three Christ or 403200=4x3x2+000=24 the four and twenty elders in Chapter 4:4 or 24=4-2=2 is Vishnu and Vishnu Yasha or 24=2+4=6 is the Jews, Moses, Zoroaster, and 24=2x4=8 is the Holy number of Buddha 403200=(4x3)+2+000=14+000 in which #1 is Brahma and #4 is Jesus Christ and the 3 zero are the three Christ in Chapter 14:1 and 3 403200=(4x3)-2+000=10+000= #10 is the Holy Mariner and three zeros are the three Christ 403200=(4÷2)x3+000=6 is the holy number of the Jews, Moses, Zoroaster three zeros are the three Christ See Chapter 14:1 403200=(4x3)÷2+000=6+000 that is #6 the holy number of the Jews, Moses, Zoroaster three zeros are the three Christ See Chapter 14:1 403200=(4÷3)+2+000=2,33+000=#2 is Vishnu and Vishnu Yasha 3x3=#9 is Bahá’u’lláh and Bahá and +000 are the three Christ 403200=(4÷3)x2+000=2,66+000= #2 Vishnu and Vishnu Yasha 6x6=36=3+6=#9 is Bahá’u’lláh and Bahá and +000 are the three Christ “twelve thousand furlongs” 1 furlong = 220 yard = 201,17meters 12000x201,17meters =2414040x2414040x2414040 length-breadth-height =140680332 E19 In the above line equation # 2414040 included 3 times that has 144 and 3 times 2 zeros=6 zeros that same as “And the city lieth foursquare” # 144.000.000 = above line and 24 remaining and they are the 24 eldelers chapter 4:4 140680332 E19 140680332=1+4+0+6+8+0+3+3+2=27=2+7=9 is Bahá’u’lláh and Bahá =verse 17 see the number 27 140680332=1x4+0x6x8+0x3x3x2=3456=3+4+5+6=18 Letters of the Living and 18=8+1=9 is Bahá’u’lláh 18=8-1=7 is Muhammad’s holy number

12000/3 (length-breadth-height=3) =4000 =4 is the Holy number for Jesus Christ Three zeros in # 4 are the three Christ 12000x12000x12000 = 1,728 E12 1728=2+7= 9 and 1+8=9=Bahá’u’lláh and in verse 12 number 12 being mentioned 3 times Ridván is 12 days =12000 =12days of Ridván and 3 zeros are the three Christ

140680332 E19 contains 21 zeros and 582758912 E12 contains 12 zeros =21zeros less 12 zeros =9 is Bahá and Bahá’u’lláh. 140680332 E19 contains 21 zeros and 1,728 E12 contains 12 zeros =21zeros less 12 zeros =9 is Bahá and Bahá’u’lláh. 1728 E12 = with the combination of numbers 1728 = 81-27=54=5+4=9 or 81-72=9 is Bahá’u’lláh and Bahá 1728 E12 = #1 and #2 = 12 1728 = (7-1)x2 =12  E12 = 12 zeros 3x12000 = 36000 =3+6+000 = 144000=1+4+4+000 =Chapter 14:1 and 14:3 3x12000=chapter 7:5-8 1780 =1+7+8+0=16=1+6=7 and 1+7 from 1780=8 is the Holy number of Buddha 8-7=1 which is the first number in 1780 and 7 and 8 is in the above equation and 1 zero remaining that is the first Christ Jesus 1780 = 1+7+8+0=16 = 6-1=5 = Bahá’I Faith=Holy number of the Báb’s Holy number 1780 =(1+7)-8=0+second zero = Second Christ = Bahá’u’lláh 1780 = (1+7)x8 = 64 =6+4 = 10 is my Holy number Holy Mariner 1728 = digit 8÷2=4 = Holy number of Jesus Christ 4x(1+7) =32 = 3+2 = Bahá’i Faith= Báb 1728 = 1+2 =3 7-1=6  3x6 =18 (Letters of the Living) = 1+8 =9 Holy number of Bahá’u’lláh = Bahá 1728 = 1+2 =3 7-1=6  3x6 =18 = 1+8 =9  9x8 (digit 8 of 1728) = 72 = 7+2 =9 Bahá’u’lláh= Bahá or 7-2 =5 =Bahá’I Faith=Holy number of the Báb 1728 = 1x7x2x8 = 112 = 1+1+2 = 4 is the Holy number of Jesus Christ and 112=2-1-1=0 is Alláh and Jesus Christ 1728 = (1+7)x2x8 = 128 =8-2-1 = 5 = Bahá’I Faith=Holy number of the Báb 1728 = (1+7)x2x8 = 128 = # 12 is 8 times being mentioned in Chapter 21:12:13:14:20:21 1728 = (7-1)x2x8 = 96 = 9 = Bahá’u’lláh= Bahá and #6 = Shield of David, 12 tribes, Moses, Zoroaster= 666 (3x6 in 666=18=1+8=9) or 96 = 9+6 =15 (1+5)=6 =#1 is Brahma and #5 the Bahá’i Faith=Holy number of the Báb or 96 = 9x6 = 54 = #5 Bahá’I Faith= Báb and #4 is Jesus Christ and 54=5+4=9 is Bahá’u’lláh and Bahá 1728 = (8÷2) x1x7= 28 (8-2=6= Shield of David, 12 tribes, Moses, Zoroaster) or 8+2=10 (Holy Mariner) or 2x8=16=1+6=7 (Muhammad’s Holy number) 16=6-1=5 (Bahá’I Faith= Báb) 17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel. Verse 17 144 cubits = 1+4+4 =9 and 1 cubit =45 centimeters =4+5=#9 =Bahá and Holy number of Bahá’u’lláh See Chapter 14:1 and 3=144000=1+4+4=9 and three zeros are the three Christ 144 cubits = 144x 45 centimeters = 6480 centimeters =6+4+8 =18 (Letters of the Living) =1+8=9 =Chapter 14:1 and 3,  1+4+4=9 6480 = 6000+400+80+0 =3 zeros in 6000 are the three Christ (Chapter 14:1 and 3 144000) and (6+4)x8=80 Remaining 400+0 (= 6000+400+80+0)= #4 is the Holy number for Jesus Christ and 3 zeros are the three Christ 6480 = 6+4 = #10-(Holy Mariner’s Holy number) or 10x80=800 (split between Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox in the 800’s)  or (6+4)x8+0 = 80+0 = Holy number of Buddha is #8 and the 2 zeros are the second Christ- Bahá’u’lláh 6000+400+80+0=7 zeros is the Holy nmber of Muhammed 6480 = 6x4x8 = 192 =# 9= Bahá’u’lláh = Bahá and 12 of 192=12 gates in chapter 21:12 and 21 192 contains 1 and 2 makes 12 is the 12 days of Ridvan and the 12 Apostles and 12 Imams 6480 = 6x4x8 = 192 =9-2=#7 Muhammad’s Holy number and 7-1 =6 = Shield of David, 12 tribes, Moses, Zoroaster= 666 because 192 consists of 3 digits =3 pieces of 6’s 6480 = 6x4x8 = 192 The beast’s number 666÷192= 3,46875=3+4+6+8+7+5 =33 (Jesus Christ was 33 years old when He was crucified) 6480 = (6x4)+8 =32 (#3 is Krishna and Siva and #2 is Vishnu Yasha- Bahá’u’lláh) 6480 = (6x4)+8 =32 divide with 4 digits of 6480 = #8 Buddha’s Holy number 6480 = (6x4)+8 =32=3+2=#5 is the Holy number of the Báb and Bahá’i Faith 6480 = (6x4)+8 =32=3x2=#6 is the Holy number of the Jews, Moses, Zozoaster 6480 = (6x4)+8 =32=3-2=#1 is the Holy number of Brahma and # 3 is Siva and Lord Krishna 32=3-2=1 is the Holy number of Brahma 32=3x2-=Holy number six and 32=3+2=the Holy number 5 6480+192+32=6704=(6x7)+4=42+4=4x2+4=#12 is Ridván 6480+192+32=6704=(6x7)+4=42+4=4+2+4=#10 is the Holy number of the Holy Mariner 6480x192x32=32813120=3+2+8+1+3+1+2+0=20 we take of 20 from 32813120=32813100=3+2+8+1+3+1=#18 is the Letters of the Living and 18=1+8=#9 Bahá’u’lláh and 32813100=2 zeros=2nd Christ 18=8-1=#7 is the Holy number of Muhammad 6480x192x32=32813120=3x2x8x1x3x1x2+0=288=2+8+8=#18 is the Letters of the Living 18=1+8=9 is Bahá’u’lláh and 288=2x8x8=128 which is the same number 1728 see verse 16 128=(8-2)+1=7 which is the missing number from 1728 and #7 is Muhammad’s Holy number 6480x192x32=32813120=3x2x8+1x3+1x2+0=296=2x9+6=24 is the four and twenty elders in chapter 4:4 The one zero in 32813120 is Jesus the first Christ 296=2+9+6=17=1+7=8 Holy number of Buddha 17=7-1=6 Holy number for the Jews, Moses and Zoroaster 296=2x9x6=108=1+8+0=9 Bahá’u’lláh and zero stands for the first Christ Jesus 296=(2x9)÷6=#3 is the Holy number if Krishna and Siva 296=(9÷2)x6=27 #2 is Vishnu #7 is Muhammad and 27=2+7=#9 is Bahá’u’lláh or 27=7-2=5 is the Báb and Bahá’i Faith or 27=2x7=14 in which #1 is Brahma #4 is Jesus Christ 14=4-1=#3 is Krishna and Siva or 14=4+1=#5 is the Báb and Bahá’i Faith Holy numbers 0+1x2x3x4x5x6x7x8x9=362880=3+6+2+8+8+0=27 = 296=(9÷2)x6=27 296=(9÷2)x6=27 362880=3x6x2x8x8+0=2304 362880 has one zero that is Jesus Christ and 2034 has one zero also Jesus Christ 2304=2+3=holy number 5 and number 4 is the holy number of Jesus and proofs progressive revelations 2304=2+3+0+4=holy number 9 2304=2x3+0+4=holy number 10 2304=3-2+0+4=holy number 5 2304=2x3+0x4=24 are the eldelers in chapter 4:4 0+1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9=45 that is #4 Christ #5 Báb and 45=4+5=9 is Bahá’u’lláh 6480+192+32+296=7000 is #7 Muhammad and three zero are the three Christ and the Creator 6480x192x32x296=9712683520=9+7+1+2+6+8+3+5+2+0=43=4+3=7 is Muhammad or 43=4x3=12 days of Ridván or 43=4-3=1 is Brahma 6480x192x32x296=9712683520=9x7x1x2x6x8x3x5x2+0=181440=1+8+1+4+4+0=18+0=#18 is the Letters of the Living and #0 Jesus or 18+0=1+8+0=9+0=#9 Bahá’u’lláh and 0 is Alláh 6480-192-32-296=5960=5x9x6+0=270 in which is 27= and 13 lines above in both lines and see Holy numbers 296=(9÷2)x6=27 270=2+7+0=9+0 = #9 is Bahá’u’lláh and 0 is Alláh and 1 zero is the first Christ 6480-192-32-296=5960=5+9x6+0=84+0=84+0=8x4+0=32+0=3+2+0=5+0=#5 is the Holy number of the Báb and Bahá’i Faith and #0 is Brahman, Jahveh and Alláh 5960=#5 is the Báb and Bahá’i Faith and #9 is Bahá’u’lláh and Bahá and #6 is the Jews, Moses, Zoroaster and #0 is the Creator The angel in verse 17 is Me! 18 And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass. “And the building of the wall” is the Universal House of Justice “city” is Haifa Israel “gold” is Moumt Carmel 19 And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald; 20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst. 21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass From: Ferenc Daniel Hegedus 2014 Csobanka Szaloky Sandor street 1 Hungary Europe E-mail opciousa@t-online.hu I am the Holy Mariner (the Supreme Holy Warrior over all creation), the Wonders of Creation, the Midmost-Heart of Creation for the Bahá’i Faith, Alláh for Islám, The Holy Ghost (III. 3rd Christ) and the Holy Spirit the Father for Christianity, King of Hell the Material Body in the Trinity (Zoroastrianism), VIII Buddha-Dharma Kaya in the Trinity of Buddhism, Jahveh the Creator for Judaism the Omnipotent, Omnipresent and Omniscient , Brahman (Creator) the cause of all causes and the causes of all cause , Siva (the Destroyer Creator in the Trinity), the Everlasting-Intelligent-Bliss (Sat-Kit-ananda) for Hinduism, Most Great Spirit for the American Indians (Quetzalcoatl), The infinite Preexistence of the Absolute Unknown Essence, Thine Own Being, The TIMEBOMB (27 time dimensions, space-time and time-space) I am the Infinite Universe (infinite space-sphere with infinite space dimensions and infinite plain dimensions), My highest form of existence is the Entity of Nothing that is my consciousness, I am the Holy Pirate of the infinite Universe (A Capone Chicago the gangster), the Holy Magician, Holy Clown and the supreme Holy Bagger of the infinite Universe, And the Most Powerful Holy Stud over all creations, the infinite preexistence of the Glory of  the Supreme Holy Manifestations and I am the INFINITE The most perfect form of Alláh is infinite space dimensions

To: Universal House of Justice					Date: April/06/2014 P. O. Box 155 Haifa Israel Certified Mail: RR 160 902 331HU

What hath Alláh wrought! Revelation Chapter 22 !!! I use the King James Bible like previously 1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. “And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal” The Bab’s revelation “, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.” God is Baha’u’llah and the Lamb is the Bab because all the 9 independent prophets in the Baha’i faith are Absolute Unknown Essences and They form Thine Own Being 2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. “In the midst of the street of it” is Baghdad “and on either side of the river, The river is which in Baghdad (Eufathres river) by the west, east, south and the north meaning the entire globe “was there the tree of life” Najibiyyih Garden-Garden of Redvan “which bare twelve manner of fruits” is the twelve days of Redvan “and yielded her fruit every month” Baha’u’llah’s announcement to the public “and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.” Is the Baha’i revelation

3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: Meaning mankind shall serve the Baha’i faith 4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads. “And they shall see his face” my Holy Names-Titles the Lord “and his name shall be in their foreheads” with my Holy Titles Baha’u’llah’s name shall be on their foreheads because my mission is to establish the new world order of Baha’u’llah

5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever. The Lord is I am “And there shall be no night there” night meaning ignorance “and they need no candle, neither light of the sun” meaning of this passage is Chapter 21 verse 23 “; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.” Light is heaven meaning of this passage is Chapter 21 verse 23

6 And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done. the Lord God is I am “holy prophets” are the 9 independent prophets the founders of world religions in the Baha’i faith “sent his angel” the angel is Daniel the minor prophet who has prophesized the coming of Jesus and Baha’u’llah-Glory of God the II.nd Christ 7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book. Direct meaning of chapter 1 verse 3 and chapter 3 verse 11 reference for Baha’u’llah because “he” is Jesus 8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. “angel”is Daniel the minor prophet in the Old Testament 9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. “he” is Daniel God is I am Allah see direct relation with chapter 19 verse 10 10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. “Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book” is Daniel prophecy in the Book of Daniel chapter 8 verse 26 es revelation chapter 1 verse 3

11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. The meaning of this verse is the law in creation that consist of two kind of existences either satanic or divine 12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. The meaning of this verse everybody gets what they deserve according to his/her deeds See chapter 22 verse 7 chapter 2 verse 23 chapter 20 verse 12 Psalms chapter 62 verse 12 Jeremiah chapter 17 verse 10 chapter 32 verse 19 Matthew chapter 16 verse 27 Romans chapter 2 verse 6 1Corinthians Chapter 3 verse 8 2 Corinthians Chapter 5 verse 10 13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Alpha and Omega are the three Christ and see 1 Thessalonians Chapter 1 verse 5-6 (Holy Ghost) 14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. “Blessed are they that do his commandments,”are the Baha’is “that they may have right to the tree of life” is the Baha’i Faith Baha’u’llah the city is Haifa Israel Mount Carmel 15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. See chapter 21 verse 8 and 1Corinthians Chapter 6 verse 9 and Galatians Chapter 5 verse 21 and Ephesians Chapter 5 verse 4 16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. The angel of Jesus is I am the Holy Ghost or Allah Jesus is the offspring of David who is the King of Israel see revelation chapter 1 verse 1 and chapter 5 verse 5 and Isaiah Chapter 11 verse 1 and 10 and Jeremiah Chapter 23 verse 5 Chapter 31 verse 31 17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. And the Spirit and the bride say See revelation chapter 21 verse 6 is Baha’u’llah the Spirit and the bride is I am the Father the law of the Creator is I am “let him take the water of life freely” is the Baha’i Revelation see Isaiah Chapter 55 verse 1

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. holy city is Mount Carmel Haifa Israel 20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. see Daniel Chapter 9 verse 26 21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

“I am- I am -I am the Promised One. I am the one whose name you have for thousands of years invoked, at whose mention you have risen, whose advent you have longed to witness, and the hour of whose revelation you have prayed Alláh to hasten. Verily. I say, it is incumbent upon the people of both the East and the West to obey My Word and pledge allegiance to My Person.” Hadrat-i-A’lá Domination is Alláh’s the world of the seen and unseen the Emperor (Lord) of all creation. Alláh