User talk:SVG

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Question
Please see my question at Extension talk:GlobalUserGroups. —  Waterfox ~talk~ 21:12, 23 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I have answered you. SVG 21:30, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. See [ my reply]. —  Waterfox ~talk~ 00:26, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Code review
Thanks for chipping in on code review. I confess I'm a little nervous, though, because I have only seen you mark one "fixme", and lots of "ok", which probably means you're marking "ok" more than you should be. For example, I see you marking things as "resolved" or "ok" after the first "fixme" is addressed. Does that mean you've done a full review yourself, or have you merely verified that the original "fixme" is resovled? If it's the latter, then I'd like to ask you instead mark those as "new", since reviewers may stop reviewing once they've found the first problem. -- RobLa-WMF 21:21, 22 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi Rob. Excuse my late reply, I wasn't there. When I mark a revision as ok, every line I've checked. In r105078, I marked it as resolved because it saw to be solved. I wrote for the case that I still wrong "Seems being fixed. Marked it as resolved". I hope it is? Thanks for the advice. In future, I will wait at marking revisions as resolved. Regards, SVG 20:43, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Anyone can get developer access
Hi, Tim! I saw your comment on someone who was asking for developer access and just wanted to let you know -- ANYONE, including anyone who has never developed for MediaWiki before, can get developer access. I see no reason to raise barriers for this.

Thanks! Sumana Harihareswara, Wikimedia Foundation Volunteer Development Coordinator (talk) 15:40, 9 April 2012 (UTC)


 * You don't know if the requesting user knows what does it mean to develop something. Some users might think they are coding something because they are learning how to work with CSS. You don't know if the user even knows what PHP is. I don't agree with this, the user should at least know how to install and configure a wiki. If you don't want arguments for or against anything, it would be appropriate to remove the Discussion section. Tim (SVG)  15:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Tim, thanks for the reminder -- I probably should rename the "discussion" section to something else. (There should be a space for the person granting access to ask questions or give instructions, like "that shell name is taken -- how about these alternatives?")
 * Can you tell me what harm comes from granting developer access to people who are unskilled, new, or confused? I personally don't see the downside, but perhaps you're seeing something I'm not.  Sumana Harihareswara, Wikimedia Foundation Volunteer Development Coordinator (talk) 16:41, 9 April 2012 (UTC)


 * We don't know if an user can be trusted. Users should give a small example of a self-written code. It's okay if there's only a little experience cos little experiences can be expanded by working on some projects. Dcoetzee is a trusted user because he's a sysop at Wikimedia Commons, sure, that's not the problem. I know a putative developer who is just able to copy others' extensions and in cases like this it's not okay if he or she gets access to represent oneself. If the majority thinks your way is the better one, I'll accept this :-) Tim (SVG)  16:59, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * So it sounds like your concern is that people might use developer access to plagiarize. Is that the only concern, or is there something else you're worried about?  People can plagiarize whether they have developer access or not, right?  And if we find that someone's been acting in a way contrary to our values, we can cancel their access.
 * I really do want to understand the possible downsides of the wide-open approach to access -- if you have any other concerns, please share them! As you probably understand, the upsides are ENORMOUS.  People who learn with us will tend to stay with us as contributors.  The less gatekeeping we do, the faster the process can move.  And it's more in keeping with our values as a Wikimedia community: inclusivity and a low barrier to entry.  But I do want to hear arguments from the other side. Sumana Harihareswara, Wikimedia Foundation Volunteer Development Coordinator (talk) 17:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)