Project talk:Forum/archive 01

Use of MediaWiki Software in commercial setting
Is the MediaWiki software only for use in a non-profit setting? I want to start a business and would like to use this software to do that. --GameBoy1984 posted feb 22, 2008

Removing irrelevant sections

 * "This page is only for discussion of the specific content of mediawiki.org".

Yet, no-one removes the posts and some even respond. Is it the consensus to keep these? I'd like to start removing them! --Swift 09:03, 31 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Feel free to move them to Project:Support desk, which is where they should be located. --HappyDog 12:23, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Archive
Should we
 * 1) use this talk page to archive done items from Project:Forum,
 * 2) use Project:Forum/archive for that, or
 * 3) just delete done stuff?

--Rogerhc 23:39, 11 September 2006 (UTC)


 * We've previously just deleted a load of dead stuff and put a link to the old version before it was deleted. Project:Forum/archive is probably better, and certainly the option to use of the above 3. --HappyDog 02:03, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Refactor
Should we regularly refactor (summarize and cleanup) Project:Forum on the Project:Forum page itself? --Rogerhc 23:39, 11 September 2006 (UTC)


 * In general, I doubt discussions will get long enough for it to be worth doing whilst they are still live. You can refactor when archiving if you like, though it's not something I will be doing if I perform any archiving myself.  --HappyDog 02:03, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Sign?
Should we sign comments on Project pages?

Should we delete signatures from items that we refactor (clean up and summarize) on Project pages?

--Rogerhc 23:39, 11 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Depends on the page. In general, you should sign comments when taking part in a discussion, but not when adding content to a page.   --HappyDog 02:03, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Sidebar/navigation/Help
Help:Contents has a lot of redlinks(!) 66.159.220.115 01:43, 21 September 2006 (UTC)


 * The mediawiki.org site is currently writing up help pages for the MediaWiki software on this site. These were formerly (and still are to some extent) written on the Wikimedia Meta-Wiki where they still reside. Unfortunately we cannot simply copy them over as the Meta ones are under a license which won't allow them to be distributed in the public domain (which they will be here). Please go to m:Help:Contents for your immediate needs and consider contributing to our new help pages and reviewing the material already there. --Swift 05:02, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

How to customize Sidebar in previous releases, for example 1.4.10 ?? There is no MediaWiki:Sidebar in this version.

Dilema
Question moved to Project:Support_desk

Renaming title of the top box in the article
Any complaints to changing the title of the box at the top of this article to "This page is only for questions relating to the MediaWiki site". Its more informative than "Before posting", and it keeps it in style with Project:Support_desk. --Rick 02:45, 29 September 2006 (UTC)


 * No. In fact, this was changed recently by rogerhc (see previous version at ).  I think you're right, and it should be reverted back to it's previous state. --HappyDog 03:00, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Admin Interface
I can't find an Admin interface on Wiki. If there is one, where can I enable/view it? And how do I define wich files are ok to upload, because I would like to allow png too. Question moved to Project:Support desk

Account Information
I am currently running a MediaWiki for a small group of people and am the admin. I am wondering if there is any easy way (without going throught the database) as the admin to list all of the users and their information, such as real name, e-mail, etc. Hope someone can help. --Ja1217 02:32, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Listing special Things
List of eg 10 latest ADDED Articles ? Is that possible?

Because not all now how Wiki works so I would like to "post" the 10 latest posted articles on the mainpage, but is that even possible?

thx in advance --84.58.197.155 20:00, 25 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Try .  This gives the 10 newest items in the main namespace.  You may be able to customise it show a different namespace, or multiple namespaces, but I haven't investigated that.  Here is an example of the output (border added for clarity). btw The correct place to ask this type of question is Project:Support desk. --HappyDog 09:23, 27 November 2006 (UTC)


 * See also the Newest Pages extension. robchurch | talk 01:50, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Remove Edit buttons from non-registered users
Hi! I'm very satisfied with this MediaWiki program but I would like to know one thing; how can I remove Edit buttons from non-registered users and how can I remove chance to register? I would appreacite answer very much.
 * Hi, have you tried this page?
 * Manual:FAQ#How do I remove the article edit etc tabs for users who are not looged in
 * --Kohyin 20:56, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

mediawiki.de
When i try to use mediawiki.de in firefox i get the following result: The page isn't redirecting properly Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete. The URL is changed to: http://mediawiki.de/www.mediawiki.org/www.mediawiki.org/www.mediawiki.org/

TYPE=MyISAM
Hi there. I have a problem installing MediaWiki: my MYSQL database supports tables with TYPE=MyISAM and not with TYPE=InnoDB! How can I do???

Template:SettingSummary
I noticed this template takes parameters min_version and max_version. min is used for the version a setting was added but max is used for the version the setting was deprecated in. There is no parameter for a version a setting was actually removed in. --68.142.13.98 15:06, 10 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Deprecated means the same as removed - version_max is the the version the setting was deprecated in, i.e. the first version without that setting. However, you are right - this is a bad name for the parameter.  Ideally we should rename version_min to version_introduced and version_max to version_removed to avoid confusion.  However that is a massive job as there are hundreds of settings that use this template.  Perhaps a job for a bot?  Or maybe just something we can live with... --HappyDog 01:21, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Deprecated does not mean the same as removed. --68.142.13.98 17:36, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * It does in this context, i.e. settings are removed from default_settings.php when they are no longer required. If the setting is still there then it is still being used.  At least, in theory... --HappyDog 18:03, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Then I'd suggest not using "deprecated" to mean something different than the dictionary definition or common use in software documentation. --68.142.14.87 02:42, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 * *blink* - as far as I can see it is being used in the correct manner - the version where those settings are no longer available. What are you suggesting?  --HappyDog 02:33, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I suppose I'm suggesting you don't know what it means, then. See http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/deprecated.  --68.142.14.67 22:06, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... I thought I responded to this. Maybe it was somewhere else, or perhaps the edit has got lost amongst vandalism juggling (though I can't find it in the history... hmmm!)  Anyway, you're right, I was getting confused due to the way I've seen it used in a few other situations.  I have amended the template accordingly. --HappyDog 01:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Translating special pages?
I've seen special pages such as "Special:Letzte Änderungen" in German wikis, and "Toiminnot:Tuoreet muutokset" in Finnish, which is Recent Changes. Now I wonder, how can one do such translations? Smiddle 20:06, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Creating a donation for MediaWiki.org tab
I would like to place a donation link for MediaWiki.org on my site. I noticed a donation page for Wikipedia, but I don't seem to find one for MediaWiki. I love the Wiki philosophy and find MediaWiki very innovative and enabling. There are many beautifully done ready-to-use tools out there, but the price we pay for them is oten very high in many ways. Limitations, inflexibility, and costly support dependency. MediaWiki provides us with the fishing poll and the shovel to dig baits. It enables us to learn the skills instead of giving us a one-time big dinner. Of course, it is hard for many of us to actully get out there and go digging warms and so on as we are pretty spoiled, but I am personally enjoying this struggling but fun adventure. And, I would love to support the organization in my own capacity. I am not able to donate a large fund myself, but I thought I would encourage visitors to do so by linking to a donation page. Any suggestions?--Kohyin 20:48, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Microformats
Is anyone doing any work on the addition of microformat support to MediaWiki? I know some individual projects (e.g. microformats on Wikitravel) are using them. Pigsonthewing 14:44, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Protected?
Why is this project page protected? I don't understand; this is supposed to be a place to post questions, but it is not possible to! Somebody hittin that crack pipe? ;) -- ZJH 15:54, 15 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Here's the log entry. It was locked because we get a lot of vandalism/deletion of this page. The proper place to ask questions about MediaWiki is at Project:Support desk.  This page is for discussing the MediaWiki.org site, and it doesn't seem too much of a problem for people interested in helping out here to create an account, after which they will be able to edit (it is only locked for anonymous editors). --HappyDog 01:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Here's my question
I uploaded an image, Image:ZJH_Skin_01.png. In an attempt to update it with a newer picture, I found myself unable to do so; I was given the error that the file already existed. So I uploaded the new file to Image:ZJH_Skin_Andreas02.png. But it doesn't seem to make sense to have to upload as a separate file when I am trying to update the picture. Is that by design? -- ZJH 16:01, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * And just to let an admin know, they don't have to wait a week to delete the first image. It can be deleted immediately. :) -- ZJH 16:02, 15 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Normally when you get the warning that the file already exists you are able to continue with the save to replace the previous copy. The warning is just there to ensure that you meant to overwrite.  Anyway, I have deleted the first image, as requested. --HappyDog 01:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Has wiki markup become too cryptic?
I am researching available wiki technolongy for use in my development group here at Alltel.

From what I have gathered wiki markup was designed to make the source more human readable, but with the incorperation of more advanced functionality it seems a kind of mish mash of techniques have been used (some HTML/XML tags, some special charachter markups, and very little if any indetion of code).

Has any thought been put into creating a standard descriptive XML based markup? It should even be possible to consider that a long hand representation of the source, allowing for coverting between, viewing, and editing shorthand or longhand.

For human readable WYSIWYG editors are very common for hiding the complexity of source code, and would still allow for easy editing for a lay user.

Wiki has made research a great deal easier, in allot of the respects, and I hope it continues to be the great resource wiki has become.

--SeanGenung 16:30, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

How to grant user access when registration has been disabled?
I am extremely sorry, I think there is a sub-heading or section on here that explains how to do this but I cannot locate it: I have disabled both anonymous edits, and new user registration on my new wiki. However, I believe that I can still e-mail out new VIP accounts to a few other people if I so choose as sysop; how do I do that? Can you please link me to the subheader here which explains how to do that?

Searching
Project:Forum has an item about searching. It is mentioned that index updating on the site is slow. Would someone please expand on this? Once a page is updated, how long should it take before it is indexed? --Sunergos 17:56, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Usernames
I dont know if this is the right place for this question (if not, please move tihs post to the correct location). I am sv:User:Micke and commons:User:Micke and my username seems to be taken both here, on enwiki and other wikimmedia-wikis as well. But the accounts (registered in my username ;-) have no contributions and seem to have done nothing except beeing registered. My question is, does this have something to do with the unified log-in that i said to come soon. Or has somebody realy registered this name on alot of wikis, but haven't stared to use the account? Any way, is there a way for me to have the username I am used to, here, on enwiki and so on even though my username is taken by an inactive account? Micke-sv 09:59, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * That doesn't really have anything to do with SUL. Someone just took them. On the English Wikipedia, try WP:CHU/U. Here... I don't know, I guess poke Rob Church. Titoxd (?!?) 00:30, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks! I will poke Rob Church, then :-)! -- MiCkE  d b  08:35, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

wiki category as sub folder
can anyone help me? It needed for multi subjects of wiki example I need to view all articles in category "software" at address "site.com/software/articlename". how can i do it??

Editing the navigation on the left side
Hello, how can I edit in my Mediawiki the navigation-block on the left side? I don't want certain Link, but others are missing. Can anybody help? Thanks! --Iiiiiichdenk 11:43, 9 July 2007 (UTC) Open article "Mediawiki:sidebar" and edit this --Odpisz 12:38, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Color Palette codes
Hi. My name is Aldrich. I'm wondering if anyone here can help me find the color table/codes for colors. I'm an admin-sysop at Wikicars and have been working on creating various different templates and information boxes for the site. Unfortunately, though, my color palette is somewhat limited and have been looking for where I might find "Canary Yellow" and such. Thanks. - Red marquis 11:11, 6 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Web colors -Eep² 04:08, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Variable of Username
I'm working on a Wiki, and I've been searching for hours, I'm wondering if there's an auto-variable for username, so if I did: it would place the username of the user in USERNAME and link to it. I'm trying to make a dev note console on a wiki so that only those who actually set that in their page will see it. (Imper1um 19:03, 31 August 2007 (UTC))
 * There isn't one by default, but Extension:Variables shows you how to add them and has CURRENTUSER in the example. --Nad 21:30, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Serious SPAM-problems
I have serious problems on my Wiki. I created a wiki about a Swedish comedy-group and their fanclub has written about my Wiki, so now I have a lot of visitors. A few weeks ago I started to recieve a lot of new articles containing asian letters and links to various websites. They came from different bots and I tried to block them, but it takes time to block them and then delete their articles. And it doesn't stop them. More and more bots get usernamnes and I went here for help.

I installed a filter to filtrate some common spam-words, but I have to update the list of words all the time. Now some "user" has posted about 100 articles a day for about a month or so. I can't stop it and nobody will take my wiki serious. How do I stop the bots? I can't be the only one with this problem, but there is no information on this site about my problem.

/Abbedabb 10:42, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) How do I remove ALL articles from one user?
 * 2) How do I not only block, but REMOVE a user from my wiki?
 * 3) How do I stop bots from registering (like adding something like "type the letters you see in the box"-thing)?
 * Have you seen already this page: Manual:Combating spam?
 * These are answers to your questions:
 * You have to delete every page. You can also install Extension:Nuke, this extension makes it easier.
 * That isn't possible. I've once found a extension for this, but I can't find it anymore.
 * There is also an extension for, Extension:ConfirmEdit
 * SPQRobin 20:34, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Specifically Extension:ConfirmEdit will catch a lot of bots. Extension:NukeDPL will allow a dpl query to send a list of articles created by a specific bot to be Nuked from the database. This has to be used with caution as you can destroy articles accidentally. --Zven 02:06, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Problem User
Special:Contributions/L Also announced this in #mediawiki, hoping to stop it before they cause too much damage. -- Dr DBW |  talk  07:18, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

All Pages divided by Categories
Hi! I have a feature request. It would be nice if the wiki pages could be separated by Categories e.g.All pages by Categories. Sometimes i cant remember which category i placed a wiki page in and i find myself going back and forth between 'All pages' and 'Categories'. Thanks! Tropicalfruitz 15:04, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Project reCAPTCHA
I think it might be of interest to mediawiki. Input is welcome. Thank you. victor falk 06:08, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

MediaWiki not in content management system matrix
MediaWiki is listed in List_of_content_management_systems which has an external link to http://www.cmsmatrix.org/ But MediaWiki is not compared in the matix, seems like it should be. I'm not qualified to create the entry. Fred: fholson at cohousing.org
 * This is best discussed on Wikipedias discussion page of the article W:talk:List_of_content_management_systems --Zven 19:55, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Letter Ё in the Russian Wiki
I ask to correct an error of sorting of the pages in Russian which begin with letter Ё.

Letter Ё should be after letter Е, instead of before letter A. For this letter there should be own section

Please, consider this wish in the next versions of MediaWiki. Givi 09:46, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Short URL's and their problems
Hello! I have a mediawiki at public_html/wiki/ and am wondering how to get a short url, for instance domain.com/Home running, with all the pages working. I now have a domain.com/Home working, but then domain.com/Project:Disclaimer etc. won't work. I used these tips: Mediawiki.org / Manual:Sorth_URL, and they couldn't help me with that. Thanks!

Extensions Install here
I was wondering if someone is able to list all the extensions used on MediaWiki.org as I would like to install some of them on my own wiki --210.1.216.73 11:00, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Click "SpecialPages" link on the left, then Special:Version ∴ AlexSm 15:20, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

How to include dynamic special:search results list into an article?
I searched about 200 pages while trying to find an answer but only found a heavy extention that also didn't work.

Problem with the search and respectively the search results
We have a problem with the search and respectively the search results in MediaWiki.

The problem occurs with 2 pages/words, one is “Teillieferung” and the other one is “Direktlieferung”. If you search for “liefer*”, everything is found except “Teillieferung”. If you search for “teil*”, the word “Teillieferung” is also in the search results.

What could be the problem ???

by derSESO