Talk:Universal Language Selector/Design/Interlanguage links

Feel free to provide any feedback

Please make it stick across devices so that it works across handsets, tablets, and desktop
We've long talked about this feature and in a multi device world we shouldn't have to train each of our devices about what languages we speak Tfinc (talk)
 * Thanks for the feedback. That makes a lot of sense. There is no need to repeat the learning process once per device. Pginer (talk) 01:41, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Reports
Now that the code landed in the ULS repo \o/ can we file bugs and enhancement requests in the ULS component? --Nemo 11:06, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, I filed two before I forget, with [Interlanguage links] label. --Nemo 21:57, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

ULS in "personal" position
What's wrong with this feature when the ULS trigger is in the personal tools position? It works just fine for me on after enabling it in preferences, the ellipsis button is very clear and the language selector opens in a sensible way. --Nemo 20:55, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Removed from ULS, filed a bug. --Nemo 07:32, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reporting this. There are a couple of related improvements we are working on:
 * Make sure that the beta feature is not listed as a beta feature on those wikis where it cannot be applied to avoid confusion.
 * Use a more accurate way to determine if the feature should be available for a given wiki. Currently the ULS position is used as a conservative way to make sure the feature only applies to wikis where we are sure interlanguage links exist. We can base this logic on $wgInterwikiMagic and $wgHideInterlanguageLinks instead which are the variables directly related to the use of interlanguage links on the sidebar.
 * --Pginer (talk) 11:52, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Edit manually
I just activated the new Beta function, as the first on the german wikipedia (yay!). How ever, the inital languages it shows (Alemannisch, العرب, Boarisch, català, English, français, italiano, lumbaart, rumantsch) are completely irrelevant to me and I'm missing a direct way of editing them (add, remove, sort) cause it should look more like (Deutsch, English, Alemannisch, français).--Sevku (talk) 19:29, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm the first who have activated it on the Dutch Wikipedia and I have the same question. - Supercarwaar (talk) 19:54, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * For context, the list comes from here: . And if I understand correctly, when it comes to languages considered by CLDR in use in the country, it picks the first by number of speakers to reach the amount of 7-9. Languages that one has previously selected in ULS should come first in theory? I tried to select Latin but I don't manage to get it to the list. --Nemo 21:17, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * First, thanks for your interest in the feature and providing detailed feedback. Our design goal is to make a set-up process unnecessary by making it unnecessary to select a language more than once it if was not included in the initial list (since your last choices should be remembered). However, it seems that some of the criteria for selecting the relevant languages are not working yet. In particular previous choices should be the most important criteria to make a language appear in the initial list and are not working now. In a context where selecting a language to access content makes it appear the next time, there is not much need for having a specific set-up process, but once the criteria for anticipating languages is working, we can reevaluate this --Pginer (talk) 12:54, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Labels look like links but aren't
Please make the blue labels in the UI actual links I can open by clicking the middle mouse button, for example. --TMg 15:17, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback. You are right, links on the language list should be real links. I've added this to the list of issues to be fixed. --Pginer (talk) 16:01, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Line break
The gray text at the bottom breaks in certain languages. For example in German it says "20 weitere

Sprachen" with a much to big line-height. --TMg 15:17, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Search functionality obfuscated
The search box at the top of the UI doesn't look like a search box. It looks like a headline. The only hint that you can type something is the blinking text cursor. This is bad for usability. And it's strange since the same UI element in the ULS language selection actually does look like an input field (example screen shot). It does have a border. This one does not. --TMg 15:17, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

"More" shouldn't show same languages again
I expected the "..." button to show what it says: more languages. Instead it's like it shows the same languages again (with the completely generic headline "Sprachen" in German), plus some more. I find this confusing. Are these two selections of "common" languages based on two different assumptions? --TMg 15:17, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Misplaced pop-up
Unfortunately this was a one-time issue I can't reproduce: the pop-up was misplaced, half hidden in the top left corner of the screen. This can be easily avoided by limiting the top and left position to positive integers. (With something like Math.max(0, x).) --TMg 15:17, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Are you facing issue like, http://i.imgur.com/QLyM4sI.png here? --KartikMistry (talk) 15:31, 14 March 2014 (UTC)