User talk:Sänger

Civility
As you may or may not be aware, the users of mediwaiki.org expect a certain degree of politeness and civility. You are not showing that.

This is not the English Wikipedia, nor the German Wikipedia, nor Meta, nor Commons, nor anywhere else that allows rude and hostile communication.

If you wish to continue contributing here, you will need to do so civilly, with respect for all, and try to be helpful. Otherwise, you can expect a topic ban or even be blocked in short order.

Best. --Jorm (WMF) (talk) 22:33, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

@Jorm (WMF): I've got a question regarding civility and the WMF: In this virtual surroundings of the Wikiverse I can't fathom anything more hostile then the brutal actions of Erik against the German community, closely followed by those against enWP, to get his buggy bling-thing MV made opt-out instead of opt-in, as the communities wished. How did you deal with such extremists, if you find some hard words about the uselessness of this blabber-device Flow and the short-sightedness of it's developers punishable?

In other words: How was Erik reprimanded for his extreme hostility, I would even call it a declaration of war, against the communities? --♫ Sänger - Talk - superputsch must go 07:19, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * @Sänger S.G - the politics and wherefores about Superprotect and its effect on the communities is not really a topic for mediawiki.org. It is a topic appropriate for Meta or the local, affected wiki.  You'll have to have those conversations there, I'm afraid - though I'll wager that if you use the same mode of hostility and incivility in those communications, you'll get exactly the response one would expect:  none.--Jorm (WMF) (talk) 14:07, 5 October 2014 (UTC)


 * This is the wikiverse, MediaWiki is just one part of that big community, not that divided from it, and such hostile actions by paid staffers against the paying community are on topic anywhere in the wikiverse. --♫ Sänger - Talk - superputsch must go  17:31, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Mediawiki.org is a project that is devoted to the development and maintenance of the MediaWiki software and its extensions. It has a limited scope with regards to the politics of the Wikimedia movement. Super-protect is off topic here, except as a discussion of its technical implementation.  The actions and policies of the Wikimedia Foundation are likewise off-topic, except in regards to the resourcing towards various technical initiatives. --Jorm (WMF) (talk) 17:46, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * MediaWiki.org is the project that delivers the software to Wikipedia and its sister projects, and as well as a spin-off, but not essential, free software for other, off-wikiversum projects. The core is WP and its sisters, they generate nearly all the donations by delivering good content through it's editors, the rest will have to work with what's done for them. The tail won't wag the dog, at least it should not do so. --♫ Sänger - Talk - superputsch must go 18:08, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm a volunteer (not tied with the foundation) and second what Jorm says here. And even if you feel like you have a point on superprotect, which I know many people do, two wrongs don't make a right.--Jasper Deng (talk) 01:25, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

added your items and renamed the page
I added your text from the talk page, renamed the page to make it relevant, while keeping your existing text. This is done in complete good faith in order to help your very helpful thoughts become more visibile, and as part of our Be bold culture. I hope this was helpful, and of course you are always free to edit or revert. Than you--Melamrawy (WMF) (talk) 11:11, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem, looks good this way.
 * I've just seen too many eager hiding in the times of the putsch against the communities with superputsch. Lot's of stuff was pushed to archives as fast as possible in the so-called community consultation. The SLA (Schnelllöschantrag, speedy deletion) just looked as the same pattern again: Shove it somewhere, were nobody has to read it. Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 11:32, 18 March 2016 (UTC)