UCOSP Spring 2012/Standups/06 Mar

 So... I've spent a week rebuilding computers. And I missed last Friday's meeting.  Did anything happen?  nah, everyone was busy and dropped in for two minutes and left  heh.  shea fixed word of the day on friday  Well, Dlemieux is working at a gaming conference in California.  Yah, I saw that, but my re-install of Eclipse sorta failed.  So I can't check it out.  ooh hes at GDC?  i think our features are essentially done for the alpha unless more things are broken upstream  yah. I was jealous. The description is "work a bit, then attend talks"  As far as I'm aware, upstream is working well.  Heya Sheac!  did you have any progress talking to the wiktionary people to allow us to collapse the elements we want? Hi Amgine Hi tony_  hey!  tony_: No, I'm getting roundly ignored there. <Amgine> I may just go around behind people's backs and do it. <Amgine> If we can get a list of the templates which need updating - like the translations template - I can just try that. I'm still really sketchy on what MediaWiki means by templates sometimes. You're talking things analogous to document elements from HTML, but in WikiText? <tony_> well the main element is the giant translation element <Amgine> A template is a wikitext page which is 'included' at the time the page is parsed for presentation. <Amgine> That way something which shows up a lot of different places can be abstracted. <Amgine> So, for example, the translation template shows up in a million or so pages; very important that they all look the same, and can be edited *once* to change it everywhere. Ok. So like CSS ? … I think I got it. <Amgine> Yes, a bit. Anyway, It sounds like Tony's got a candidate <Amgine> Yep. And it relies on a class, NavFrame, which I'm looking up right now. <Amgine> Trying to track down where the js is being added. <Amgine> Okay, I found it in this page <Amgine> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js <Amgine> It looks like it is heavily, heavily encumbered. <tony_> im pretty new to css, but for some reason i cant find the class called "translations" in the css files in a wiki page <Amgine> It isn't. <Amgine> The translations template is using a series of classes; the one we're looking at is NavFrame I believe. <Amgine> Wiktionary person says mw-collapsible is not allowed in the MobileFrontend either, so I'm asking the maintainer of that extension about it. <Amgine> Okay, they're right. collapse *doesn't* work on mobilefrontend. Does it make sense for us to muck with it in our application? Relatedly, some of our pages get cut off laterally because they're too wide: … Coincidentally the Translations box (template?) <tony_> its just the translations and related.terms elements that get cut off i believe You may be right. I only noticed it with translations Ok, so this looks like something we want to chat with Dale and Patrick about. In the meantime, are we partway through standups? <Amgine> Yep. <Amgine> Who has done what? <Amgine> (missed Friday so I am out of touch) I can go I've moved the bugs that I could confirm to our Bugzilla account The Word of the Day button is fixed And I've been spending my time trying to figure out our Saved Pages bug (wherein clicking a Saved Page doesn't result in navigation to that page) That last one has taken my up until now, and I'm still at it I was going to ask Yuvi about it, since it looks like he was having some similar troubles with Wikipedia <Amgine> Yah, I haven't been able to connect with Yuvipanda for a couple days. <Amgine> I'll ask him to get in touch with you about that issue when I see him. <Amgine> Any other blockers? Nope. That's it. <Amgine> Cool. Tony_: what has been happening officially? <tony_> i fixed the listen in last week and i havent had much to do since <Amgine> <Amgine> Okay: Announcements: Dlemieux is in California enjoying a game conference. <tony_> if it comes down to it, we can just parse the html to cut out elements <Amgine> Won't be to any of the meetings. <Amgine> (this week) <Amgine> I haven't got any other specific announcements, other than a huge thank you for the bugs, sheac. no prob! On that topic, we've already got a comment from someone on our translation TODO item I'll grab a link to it... <Amgine> I think we should add everyone's e-mail addresses to the cc fields, and start assigning things (and marking as fixed, etc) <Amgine> So we are aware when people comment. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34834 Well I got an email. I'm not sure if it's because it was my bug or what. <Amgine> Ah! Siebrand. Yes, you got an e-mail because it was your bug. <Amgine> He's the tranlations/i18n/i10n guru. <Amgine> Almost everything MediaWiki does is heavily translated to many many languages. He manages much of the work. <Amgine> I don't remember who was interested in the translation/i18n side of the app? <tony_> we only have those two new menu items that need translating right? it should give details in the bug. let me check yeah - that's right. four items in messages-en.properties but when we do the conversions from Wikipedia --> Wiktionary in the remaining places, we'll need to translate/transliterate those as well <Amgine> Okay. <Amgine> Just filed a bug, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35018 Looks great! Errr… "awful" ;) <Amgine> <Amgine> Anyone have anything else to talk about for this standup? <Amgine> Sounds like we're done then. agreed! So I hope if Yuvi isn't too swamped he can suggest some avenues to look down with regard to this SavedPages bug. <Amgine> Yes. He was annoyed about something in phonegap, probably this, and was pulling it out by the roots from the sound of things. yeah, i'm having trouble nailing it down, but there seem to be a couple things - maybe related, maybe not it'd be great to see them through to resolution! :) <Amgine> Make sure there is a bug about that, and that it is assigned to you. There's a bug for sure - thanks for reminding me to self-assign <Amgine> Tony_ You may want to troll through the outstanding bugs and grab any you plan on working on. <tony_> sure <Amgine> I will send an e-mail in the next couple hours to everyone, reminding about the Friday standups, and linking to this log.
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