User talk:Kylu


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AnonDiss's bureaucrat request
Hi I'm wondering why you didn't promote Anonymous Dissident? He has been an admin here a lot longer than yourself, and before you were given bcrat rights, there was a very sure need for more bureaucrats. He's not exactly untrustworthy - he's an admin on 5 other wikis, as well as a bcrat on Species. I just find it a little disappointing that you have come on here, with basically no experience on this wiki at all, and taken over and basically said no to a highly suitable individual (who in fact was endorsed by two people, which you've seemed to ignore). What gives?  Majorly  (talk) 08:54, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: the original discussion regarding rights is at Project:Requests/Bureaucrat/Anonymous Dissident


 * I explained this to you on IRC, I tried to explain this on AD's bureaucrat request, and will explain it here one last time:
 * I was on the -tech channel when Simetrical mentioned they were starting to get some rename requests on here, specifically on bureaucrat talkpages.
 * I did suggest that I could handle rename requests if they were going to pick up.
 * I did suggest that a central place to request rights and renames would be a good idea.
 * I never suggested I'd promote anyone to either sysop or bureaucrat.
 * As far as I'm aware, the only people on this wiki who usually get either sysop or bureaucrat rights are developers of some sort. Simetrical's wording of the header at Project:Requests tends to emphasize that.
 * This wiki, along with the *.labs.wikimedia.org and test.wikipedia.org, are in my mind "developer wikis", meaning that those of us who have local rights have them only given the tolerance of our various developers and shell users. Being neither, I am in no position to grant permissions to others.
 * I am, in my opinion, bureaucrat here solely to take load off of the developers for SUL-related rename requests. I suspect that once the SUL mergers are finished, I'll be turning the bit in myself or they'll remove it for me.
 * My hold request was based off of a discussion with one of the developers. In the absence of more rename requests, I was told there is no reason to promote anyone else to bureaucrat.
 * I'm personally disappointed that you've come here, where I volunteered in an honest attempt to help, and decided to grill me about a decision that I did make clear on the request page was not mine to give. I also find it odd that you would do this after I explained the situation to you on IRC (I do have the logs if you'd like), and that here you take a decidedly chiding tone about it all.
 * The developers have no desire, I'm sure, of our bringing wiki-drama to this location as exists elsewhere. The request was placed on hold, and after AD's comments on the request page and this note, I have no intentions of promoting anyone at all on this wiki unless otherwise instructed by either a local bureaucrat or developer.
 * I do fully expect that the matter is settled. If you disagree, please leave the messages regarding the issue at Project talk:Requests/Bureaucrat/Anonymous Dissident. Kylu 00:06, 31 March 2008 (UTC)