Talk:Communication

Bugzilla
Tobias Conradi 07:16, 19 November 2023(UTC)
 * domains
 * on sf.net http://bugzilla.wikipedia.org/ is promoted
 * on mediawiki.org http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ is promoted
 * two domains (bugzilla.wikipedia.org and bugzilla.wikimedia.org) offer the same(?) content? -> use http-browser redirect
 * shouldnt it be http://bugzilla.mediawiki.org? It's not for bugs in wikipedia nor wikimedia, but mediaWiki, right?
 * contact
 * bugzilla.wikipedia.org/createaccount.cgi gives brion@pobox.com. But this brion@pobox.com gives PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 9): 550 : Recipient address rejected: User unknown at least from one of my accounts.


 * bugzilla.wikimedia.org is correct because the Wikimedia foundation hosts the MediaZilla site (like several more). And please type in the name of brion correctly, not with an "a" ;-) --Bdk: 20:30, 19 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Bugzilla covers problems with all the Wikimedia websites as well as the software. Thus, it should not be a subdomain of mediawiki.org. Brianjd 03:41, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Bdk argued that because the Wikimedia Foundation hosts it, it should be under wikimedia.org. Well the Wikimedia Foundation also hosts mediawiki.org, so should we make it mediawiki.wikimedia.org (a very confusing domain!)? Brianjd 03:41, 4 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @ Brianjd: Eh? Tobias not only asked for a relocation of MediaZilla, but also quoted the difference between wikipedia.org and wikimedia.org (both are working for bugzilla.[...].org). My answer was reffering to this point and emphasizing the status quo. Your last suggestion is a bit silly. We're lucky with this short and easy domain mediawiki.org. And of course, MediaZilla can stay where it is. Anyway, this is not the place to discuss such matters. --Bdk: 10:09, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
 * BdK, thanks for telling me about A and O ;-). What's the right place to ask for a bugzilla related to the software product MediaWiki? Tobias Conradi 06:39, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Hm, suchst Du einen speziellen Bug oder wie Du eine eigene Bugzillaversion einrichtest? --Bdk: 08:07, 16 December 2023(UTC)
 * BdK, sorry haven't been here for a long time. I meant: "What's the right place to ask for a separate bugzilla-installation for the mediaWiki software? ".
 * what's the right place to ask for http-redirects?
 * another "bug": http://mail.wikiPedia.org/ should be serverside redirected to http://mail.wikiMedia.org/ . It is not very good behavior to bring in exactly the same content in the internet via two urls. It's like pollution. And than the phrase on the articles page that p seems to work better than m for site-restricted searching in Google & Co can be avoided. Deletion should occur when Googles index is updated and reflects the proper domain. best regards and happy new year, even if it's allready 26th. Tobias Conradi 20:25, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Our bugzilla covers our non-MediaWiki software and site configuration issues as well as MediaWiki. There may be some old 'bugzilla.wikipedia.org' links around, but it doesn't really matter. --Brion VIBBER 02:50, 27 January 2023(UTC)

Gmane link
Gmane is on www.gmane.org, not on gmane.net. Tinus 12:31, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for this hint :-) -- :Bdk: 14:10, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

FAQ link
The link to FAQ needs updating to Help:FAQ. -- Barrylb 16:34, 3 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Done --HappyDog 16:49, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Project:Support desk
Linking to Project:Support desk from within this site would be quite helpful! --Flominator 06:21, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
 * It would be, if there were enough people answering the questions that get posted there. The reason for that page was primarily to stop questions being posted ad-hoc around the site, however the page clearly says that questions posted there may go unanswered.  I would rather draw attention to the methods of communication that are likely to get a response... --HappyDog 12:36, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Maybe the site gets more attention ,if more people know it? --Flominator 09:11, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. --Rogerhc 05:58, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I think this is a pretty poor way of offering support. Look at how long the page is. Forums and mailing lists are far better. I've answered a couple questions on that page, and to be honest I don't plan on ever answering any more. I can't monitor the status of the threads. I can have emails sent when the page is updated, but the page has nearly 200 threads; the emails I would receive would almost definitely not pertain to my threads. I think that page should be put out of its misery. --Ryan lane 18:09, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * We are not a commercial organisation (dammit we're not even an organisation)
 * We don't "offer support", because there is no "we". All help provided by this website and most of the other channels of communication is provided by individuals voluntarily giving up their time to help others.
 * This page clearly states that Project:Support desk "...is less frequented than the other sources of help listed on this page",
 * The top of the support desk also states "Questions on this page are unlikely to be answered very quickly, and may not get answered at all.".
 * The main purpose of the page (as stated two paragraphs up) was to stop the questions that people were asking (despite being advised not to) being scattered all over the site, and instead localise them in one place. If people ignore the warnings and post there, that's their choice, and from what I can see a fair number of them actually get answered, eventually.  (...or at least the ones that consist of more than a "my internet is broken please fix it").
 * All that said, if you can think of a better way to organise this and are prepared to stay here and run it then please go ahead and refactor (this is wiki, after all).
 * --HappyDog 01:45, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Hello, I came and registered on mediawiki.org via wiki.roblox.com. now the point is that my username get not recognized back on wiki.roblox! Please help Pappyloopy (talk) 15:31, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

mwusers.com
The site mwusers.com seems to be down... A few pages can be found in the google cache... Where can you turn to now when you have questions on the mediawiki? --87.176.236.127 11:54, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Seems to be up again. --Shape 20:48, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Wrong link for the mediawiki-announce list
The link to mediawiki-announce list on the Communication page is not working!
 * Current link:mediawiki-announce* correct link: mediawiki-announce

VoskampM 15:27, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Notes on communication channels

 * Some notes I sent on an email to Outreach Program for Women interns. To be integrated here whenever I have a chance, unless someone is faster than me. Basically it is a different priority for community channels, leaving IRC to the last instead of te first.--Qgil (talk) 19:20, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

In the MediaWiki project the default channel of collaboration are wiki pages and their associated discussion pages. This is an effective way to have accumulative documentation and discussion really specific to the topic of each page, visible by and open to those finding or watching regularly those pages.

Sometimes you want use a mailing list related to your work, being wikitech-l the fall-back if there isn't any more specific. This is good for open participation and archiving. Each email has a URL that you can point to from wiki pages or whatever.

Then, synchronous communication is also good:

You can have it scheduled and formalized around Google hangouts (voice/video, possibility to archive as YouTube videos, probably also to download and upload to Commons) or IRC meetings.

And finally there is the convenient, casual and ad hoc pure chat on IRC. As Smana points out it is better if it happens in one of the established channels. However, anything will do (even vis a vis chats in private rooms) as long as you get the previous points and use this communication as some kind of remote substitute to 'casual office chat'.

Add the French-speaking mailing list on the French translation
There is since one month a new mailing list dedicated to MediaWiki (hosted by WM CH). I would like to add this mailing list on the French page Communication/fr -- and just on this one because it is not relevant for the English users. In order to not dissynchronise the translation tool (i.e. not directly add the link on the French translation), it can be added a template at the end of the section "Mailing lists" which displays something only when called by the page "Communication/fr" (I tested this scenario on a test wiki). Any opposition to this type of localisation? ~ Seb35 13:51, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Sort Users by Edits
Is there a way I can sort users by the number of edits they make and have it show the number of edits? Please reply soon.-CC 02:39, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Can we advertise on our wiki (add space for advertising)?
Does Wiki run ads or do any type of Advertising? Can I add space on my Wiki for advertising?
 * Which wiki? Wikimedia projects don't have ads. Your own MediaWiki install can support ads. --Nemo 14:12, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Phabricator Person's are not helping me. Please help me
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102460 NehalDaveND (talk) 05:58, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Query regarding nomination of my pictures for deletion
Hello, i had shared few of my amazing pictures for wiki loves earth 2016, in which few images that i uploaded were from my own  Facebook page. But now i am notified as it has been nominated for deletion. Since these are my own art i dont think there must be an issue publishing these images. I would really appreciate a positive response with this regard. Thank you. Shravan Kamath94 (talk) 09:18, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Using keyboard-interactive authentication
how can i fix this problem, i can't login my account, any help?--جار الله (talk) 15:29, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

سؤال
الخوت عارفين كفاش تقراو الفيديوهات فويكي مديا Moustapha moutia (talk) 16:08, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

الخوت عارفين كفاش تقراو الفيديوهات فويكي مديا Moustapha moutia (talk) 16:09, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Edit protected
I want you to add the template on the communication page. --klekboR (talk) 03:44, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Why? Legoktm (talk) 21:22, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * To be disruptive I think. Green Giant (talk) 22:01, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

IRC Chat is terminated
Tried to click on the IRC chat in order to get help and it gave me an error telling me it was terminated. Anyone know where I can find support for this program? Thanks.

I need help
how can I began to translate?

About the specifications of MediaWiki
Hello users !!!

As you know, recently, MediaWiki was revised.

I feel that this revision makes it difficult to use the source editor.

I found it a little doubtful, so I searched around and found that the specifications of MediaWiki are decided in Wikimedia Phablicator.

However, Wikimedia Phablicator is, so to speak, a factory, and the community members are craftsmen.

Although they are experts in program development, many of them do not seem to have much experience as users of Wikimedia projects.

In the first place, MediaWiki is an infrastructure.

So it is inappropriate to change MediaWiki only by the taste of the craftsmen. Therefore, I think that the specification of MediaWiki should be decided in a more open place, not in Wikimedia Phablicator.

Please post your opinion.

And please let me know if the place to post this opinion is not here.

Thank you !!!

--HaussmannSaintLazare (talk) 06:41, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure which revision are you referring to. MediaWiki is changing all the time.
 * Phabricator is a task and bug management system, which is built for software development. MediaWiki is not a task management system, but a content management system. doesn't provide necessary features
 * Phabricator is completely open: everyone can write there, with the same account as here. --Amir E. Aharoni &#123;{🌎🌍🌏}} 07:27, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * It is unclear what your point is, and it is unclear what your question is. Please be more specific, and do not re-post topics that you had already brought up in other venues, e.g. on Tech, as that is forum shopping. Thanks. --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 11:16, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello Amire80 and AKlapper (WMF) !!!

Thank you for your joining here.

There are many problems in the current situation.

Therefore, I would like to explain little by little.

First of all, what I would like to explain is "open".

Amire80 claims that Wikimedia Phablicator is open.

Certainly, in a general sense, it is open.

However, it is not open as defined by Wikimedia.

That is because it does not follow meta:Privacy policy.

First, can you agree on this point?

Thank you !!!

--HaussmannSaintLazare (talk) 17:44, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello Amire80 and AKlapper (WMF) !!!

I have been skeptical about the basics.

The question is whether Wikimedia Phablicator is a stand-alone project.

For example, English wikipedia, Japanese wiktionary, and Wikimedia MetaWiki use different urls such as en.wikipedia.org,ja.wiktionary.org,meta.wikimedia.org.

Similarly, Wikimedia Phablicator has a different url phabricator.wikimedia.org.

But Wikimedia Phablicator does not appear in the list of Wikipedia's sister projects.

It seems to me that it indicate that Wikimedia Phablicator is not a stand-alone project but only an attached part of some project (probably MediaWiki).

Is my guess correct?

Thank you !!!

--HaussmannSaintLazare (talk) 06:11, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Communication is about general communication channels. For specific Phabricator questions, please ask on the Phabricator Help talk page. For Wikimedia projects, see Wikimedia projects. Again, this is unrelated to Communication. (PS: You may also want to check your keyboard, as it seems to always print three exclamation marks when you entered only one.) --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 14:40, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Removing Gmane links
There was an issue with gmane, and now gmane.io only serves archives. I am not sure of the value of putting the links in such a prominent display. Maybe we can remove the links? Or reduce the 2 refences to one.

In honesty I would prefer just replacing the gmane links, to the listserv archive.

Cant do the edit myself since the page is protected.

https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2020/01/15/news-gmane-org-is-now-news-gmane-io/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gmane