Extension talk:Semantic MediaWiki/LQT Archive 1

Creating a SemanticForm and using tags
Hi guys hope you can help. If I can get this working, this will be a MAJOR thing for us :>)

Example: Lets say I have an extension called NewTaskTag, which lets you insert a  into a wiki page, then you manually insert parameters as follows..

 Task = This task completed at.. Time = 6pm Priority = Severe Updated by =   Task = Time = Priority = Updated by = 

The extension then renders the html into a table like format.

Because this is a manual job, I wanted to make it easier to do this.

So, Ive installed Semantic Mediawiki along with SemanticForms.

These are great, but I wanted to know if you could use a form to do the above instead of using the normal edit option with Mediawiki.

The problem I see is how will the form know how to interpret and pass the entered bits/eg. the fields to the extension, and how would you say, in a form, place a filed to say to use ?

To further clarify what Im trying to say is the following.

If I want to use the  in a wiki page, I just go to a new page, click on Edit, and enter the following:

 Task = Time = Priority = Updated by =   Task = Time = Priority = Updated by = 

I then complete each line, eg.Task = This new task, Time = 6pm, etc etc.

What Id like to do is the following:

Create a new form that has this format:

Task: [___ Text Box for Task entry___] Time: [___ Text Box for Time entry___] Priority: [___ Text Box for Priority entry___] Updated By: [___ Text Box for Updated By entry___]

All the user would have to do is then input in the text boxes the required data, then the  would do the rest. The questions I have though are:

1)How would the form know that each text box is actually in the format: Task = Time = etc etc

And that all these text boxes are enclosed in the  tag?

2) How could you create a form that automatically enters a  tag, then the required text boxes, with each one corresponding to a parameter required for the newtasktag, then a closing ? If I can get this working by you wonderful gurus, this would totally change for the better the way we use Mediawiki!

Thanks guys in advance.

Anchors in syntax conflict
There seems to be a small issue where links (including interwiki) with section linking anchors such as Help:ParserFunctions which renders as M:Help:ParserFunctions will confuse with Semantic linking, and an interwiki link such as Help:ParserFunctions will fail with the Semantic MediaWiki extension installed. --Zven 01:22, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

How do I get Simile Timeline working with Semantic MW?
Hi, I have SMW extension installed and would love to get the Simile timeline function working, but can not seem to find exact instructions. Would you know please? Thanks 84.24.129.223
 * See the demo
 * And in my experience, if the setting "$smwgQDefaultNamespaces" is wrong, you will not get timeline.--Roc michael 23:58, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Templating #ask:</tt> Results
So I'm using the <tt>#ask:</tt> parser function and using a template to format each result. Is there a way to have <tt>#ask:</tt> send the full page name to the template instead of a link (e.g. <tt> Page <tt> instead of <tt> Page <tt>? I want to have full control of the displayed text of the link.  —Sledged (talk) 03:29, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Also, as a minor note, the template used in the results shows up as an orphaned page. Shouldn't it show up as being included in the <tt>#ask:</tt>ing page?  —Sledged (talk) 03:34, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


 * For the first question, you can set the link text with "[ custom text]" in the template. Yaron Koren 04:38, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


 * No, that doesn't do it at all. That just gives me <tt> Page custom text] </tt>.  —Sledged (talk) 05:08, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Given the near month-long lack of a response, I'll just conclude that SMW does not have built-in a way to accomplish this (though I have found a work-around using Extension:StringFunctions), and put in a request for this functionality. The most direct solution is to have the parser function pass the page's namespace and local name through to separate arguments (say <tt></tt> and <tt></tt>).  —Sledged (talk) 21:35, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

A String as Both a Property Value and Displayed Text of a Link
Suppose in a page, I have the text "The capitol is Lincoln." Now I want "Lincoln" to be a value of the property "State Capitol," and I want it to be the display text of a link to the page "Lincoln (Nebraskan City)." Is this possible? I've tried <tt> [[State Capitol::Lincoln]] </tt>, but it doesn't work. It seems I can only get it to work if I have two separate "Lincoln" texts like so: <tt> Lincoln State Capitol::Lincoln </tt>. I'm hoping for something that's a little less heavy-handed. —Sledged (talk) 07:13, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

<tt>Subproperty of</tt> Property
When a property is tagged as a subproperty of another, does it inherit the parent property's type? With the given examples on semantic-mediawiki.org, if "spouse" is of the type String, are "wife" and "husband" inherently of type String, or does it have to be declared with each subproperty? —Sledged (talk) 15:16, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Also, how can I get a list of all the the subproperties of a given property? I tried <tt>  </tt>, but it's not giving any results.  —Sledged (talk) 18:44, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

FckEditor extension incompatibility
MediaWiki 1.12

I installed both FckEditor and SemanticMediaWiki.

First, because i don't want my users need to learn Wikisyntax.

Second, because i want use WebSemantic.

But, everytime you try to edit an article, semantic attributes are interpreted by FckEditor.

Thus, you lose your attributes and the <DIV> with semantic info (normaly after the article and before category) is paste in the article's source as a content.


 * If everyone knows how it's possible to have these 2 extensions working together, thanks a lot ?

Controlling external link anchors
When you define a semantic external link by giving the property:ExternalURL the type URL somewhere in the article has type::URL the semantic link itself is always full length. e.g. Google will make the link in the article Google but the semantic property in the fact box will be full length : http://www.google.com. I have noticed that if you use interwiki links you can make the rendered link in the factbox identical e.g. MediaWiki will render MediaWiki for the link and in the factbox where Wikipedia: is defined in the interwiki table.

The question is can a set of interwiki links be controlled in a MediaWiki: namespace article similar to how Sevice links work? If not currently this would be convenient, the other approach would be to define a new Type:' to allow anchors to be the semantic object in the RDF triples of the form (subject, predicate, object)--Zven 05:05, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Feedback
I'm noticing a lack of response to a number of queries on this talk page. Is the this right spot for reporting bugs, asking for support, requesting features, etc...? —Sledged (talk) 22:22, 23 July 2008 (UTC)


 * No - I think I'm one of very few people who actually watch this page. The best place for all of those is the semediawiki-user mailing list (though you can also report bugs on Bugzilla). Yaron Koren 22:55, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Referencing a property on its own page
Can I set a property in one line on a page and then retrieve it later in the same page? For example, if I set the Location to be <tt> Location:: </tt> and later in the same page I'd like to use the Location property. Is there any way I can retrieve it again or do I need to call the #geocode function every time I want the location? Pnelnik 12:59, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

A few days later I stumbled across the answer to my own question. The answer is that it can indeed be done using #show. For example if I type: <tt> ''The city is City::Dublin. I said that the city is '' </tt> Then I'd get: ''The city is Dublin. ''I said that the city is Dublin Pnelnik 15:29, 24 October 2008 (UTC)