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Arash.pt

 * 1. Take a minute to look around. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)

At first glance, I just noticed the logo change.


 * 2. Imagine you wanted to switch the article to another language. Can you figure out how to do so? What do you think of this experience?

Yes, It takes maybe 5 or 10 seconds to find it.


 * 3. Imagine you wanted to collapse the main sidebar menu. Can you figure out how to do so? What do you think of this experience?

No I did not find how to do that.


 * 4. The logged-out experience is slightly different. Please click the “Log out” link in the top right corner. What do you notice that’s different from the logged-in experience? What do you think?

It's the same collapse sidebar view. I think after logout, it's ok to don't show some links to the user. but still, I hate white spaces :)


 * 5. Imagine your main objective is reading an article. What do you think of page layout and the reading experience? How does it compare with the current experience on Wikipedia?

Aside from the logo, I didn't feel any significant change for readers.


 * 6. Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.

I know it's hard to change the look right now. Users and readers have been used to this look for years. I think you can change the way you present new designs and changes. For example, for important changes such as the location of languages, you could have an interactive presentation for the first visit. This allows the user to first understand the changes and spend less time to find Languages.

Votre nom d’utilisateur (ou « Anon »)

 * 1) Prenez une minute pour observer le prototype. Quelles premières impressions avez-vous ? Trouvez-vous que quelque chose soit déroutant ? pratique ? particulièrement intéressant ? (Gardez en tête que, puisqu’il s’agit d’un prototype, la plupart des liens ne fonctionnent effectivement pas, et il se peut que vous rencontriez d’autres bogues et bizarreries.)
 * No perceived change in a glance. But i don't quite like seing the "alarms" in red at the top, I have enouph on my phone ;) (not important)
 * 1) Imaginez que vous vouliez lire l’article dans une autre langue. Pouvez-vous trouver comment le faire ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * Took me 10 sec to find it. I prefer the new version even if i liked being able to switch language with 1 click in the past one.
 * 1) Imaginez que vous vouliez masquer le menu principal dans la barre latérale. Pouvez-vous trouver comment faire cela ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * I didn't even know we could collapse the sidebar before. Quite intuitive
 * 1) L’expérience lorsque l’on n’est pas connecté est légèrement différente. Veuillez cliquer sur le lien « » dans le coin supérieur. Que remarquez-vous de différent par rapport à l’expérience lorsque l’on est connecté ? Qu’en pensez-vous ?
 * Well "log out" seems perfect for me ;)
 * 1) Imaginez que votre principal objectif est de lire un article. Que pensez-vous de la disposition de la page et de l’expérience de lecture ? Quelle comparaison faites-vous avec l’expérience actuelle sur Wikipedia ?
 * I don't see any difference
 * 1) Vous pouvez ajouter n’importe quelles idées, remarques ou questions pour finir.
 * Nothing to say the only thing that it seems i lost is the "one click" to switch french/english/german etc. wich i use a lot.

NickK
NickK (talk) 19:41, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) Take a minute to look around. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * No significant changes at the first glance. I find confusing that all navigation boxes are uncollapsed (not a clean look), there are no categories (I use them a lot). I also found language switching confusing (see below)
 * 1) Imagine you wanted to switch the article to another language. Can you figure out how to do so? What do you think of this experience?
 * Yes, I could, but it was not quite confusing: I tried to type 'German' or 'Ukrainian' and neither worked, not intuitive at all that you have to type a native name (and this required a keyboard switch for Ukrainian). I could not easily find if a given article exists in my language, while I rely a lot on it at the moment. Having at least an option to keep an uncollapsed list is a must for me.
 * 1) Imagine you wanted to collapse the main sidebar menu. Can you figure out how to do so? What do you think of this experience?
 * It was obvious, this is a standard sign at the moment. I did not like the look at all, however: for unknown reason with an uncollapsed menu the article takes full width of a wide screen, with a collapsed it takes only a third. This is definitely not a look I would expect: if I make my window full-width, I expect the text to be full-width either (or see some rubbish adds on the sides, but not on Wikipedia). If I want an article to take just a third of my screen, I know how to resize my window.
 * 1) The logged-out experience is slightly different. Please click the “” link in the top corner. What do you notice that’s different from the logged-in experience? What do you think?
 * I did not understand why the sidebar is collapsed for logged-out but shown for logged-in. Don't we expect logged-out users to look for random articles or donate us?
 * 1) Imagine your main objective is reading an article. What do you think of page layout and the reading experience? How does it compare with the current experience on Wikipedia?
 * Opening a sidebar is not an intuitive way of making the article full-width of the screen, I would rather say it is a counter-intuitive effect. I know many websites have a habit of having narrow windows that do not like nice on wide screens, I prefer to be able to choose the width of the text block.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * This idea looks a lot like mobile. The things I lack most are categories and interwikis, they are already the reason why I use desktop version even on my mobile phone, I don't want to have to do some specific adjustments on my desktop version either

WikiLester

 * 1) קחו דקה להביט סביב. מה ההתרשמות הראשונה שלכם? האם משהו מבלבל? נוח? מעניין במיוחד? (זכרו שמכיוון שזה אבטיפוס רוב הקישורים לא באמת עובדים, וייתכן שתיתקלו בבאגים או מוזרויות.)
 * לא מבלבל
 * 1) דמיינו שאתם רוצים לעבור לקרוא את הערך בשפה אחרת. האם אתם מבינים איך לעשות את זה? מה אתם חושבים על החוויה הזאת?
 * כן.החלון שנפתח גדול מידי
 * 1) דמיינו שאתם רוצים להסתיר את תפריט הצד הראשי. האם אתם יכולים להבין איך לעשות את זה? מה אתם חושבים על החוויה הזאת?
 * לא מבינה מה הכוונה. אם הרעיון הוא להסתיר את התפריט שמתחת לסמליל של ויקיפדיה זה בהחלט רעיון חיובי
 * 1) החוויה למשתמשים מחוץ לחשבון מעט שונה. לחצו בבקשה על קישור "יציאה מהחשבון" בפינה הימנית העליונה. האם אתם שמים לב למשהו שונה מהחוויה בתוך החשבון? מה אתם חושבים?
 * בהחלט נוח יותר לקריאה.
 * 1) דמיינו שהמטרה העיקרית שלכם היא קריאת ערך. מה אתם חושבים על עיצוב הדף ועל חוויית הקריאה? איך אפשר להשוות אותה לחוויה הנוכחית בוויקיפדיה?
 * הקריאה יותר נוחה כי אין הסחות של תפריטים שלא נוגעים לקוראים.
 * 1) אנא הוסיפו מחשבות אחרונות, רעיונות, או שאלות.
 * האפשרות של קריאה בלבד נוחה ביותר. צריך לאפשר למי שרוצה לערוך לעבור למוד עריכה. הכפתור צריך להיות בולט אך לא מפריע

changement de wikipédia
Bonjour wikipédia! je trouve que desfois l'information n'est plus au moins bonne et ressourcante et a pas assez d'info, j'aimerais que vous changiez cela merci beaucoup d'avance! À chaque fois que je me retrouve devant se site je vois ma vie défilé et me rappelle de mauvais souvenir de plus, il n'y a jamais assez d'information et j'en ressort perdante. BYE BYE PT A PLUS

Theklan

 * 1) Take a minute to look around. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * I wouldn't say this is a change. Is the same thing but with the logo smaller. Change is change, this is not.
 * 1) Imagine you wanted to switch the article to another language. Can you figure out how to do so? What do you think of this experience?
 * Yes, is clearer there, I don't think people would take too long to do that. But with a menu in the left, most of the users will still go there because... well... there's a menu in the left.
 * 1) Imagine you wanted to collapse the main sidebar menu. Can you figure out how to do so? What do you think of this experience?
 * It took me like 10 seconds to find this, is not intuitive because the menu item should open a menu, not close the existing one. After closing the layout doesn't make sense. Lot of blank space that is not well balanced.
 * 1) The logged-out experience is slightly different. Please click the “” link in the top corner. What do you notice that’s different from the logged-in experience? What do you think?
 * Yes, it's different, but I think it is worst, as you don't offer the clear possibility to make more things with the articles, link to other projects or further exploration. The left menu is still the main problem, and hiding it doesn't hide the problem.
 * 1) Imagine your main objective is reading an article. What do you think of page layout and the reading experience? How does it compare with the current experience on Wikipedia?
 * It is the same: most of the readers don't even notice that the menu exist.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * I think this redesign is not even nailing the surface of what we need. The only real and visible change is making the logo smaller, something that can be actually done with a css trick. Taking two years for the change would make everything even more obsolete. We need a real redesign.