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 * Für Informationen zur Installation und Nutzung der Structured-Discussions-Erweiterung siehe .

Strukturierte Diskussionen (zuvor bekannt als “Flow”) ist ein Projekt des Collaboration-Teams der Wikimedia Foundation, um ein anderes Diskussionssystem für Wikimedia-Projekte zu entwickeln. Strukturierte Diskussionen bietet Funktionen, die auf einigen bekannten Websites verfügbar sind, sich jedoch nicht in Wikitext implementieren lassen. Zum Beispiel kann Strukturierte Diskussionen lesbare Threads sowohl für die mobile als auch für die Desktop-Ansicht anzeigen, automatisch Beiträge signieren, Antworten auf Threads (jeweils mit datenbankinterner Beziehung) und themenbezogene Benachrichtigungen ermöglichen.

Die Hauptziele des Strukturierte-Diskussionen-Projekts sind:


 * das Wiki-Diskussionssystem für neue Benutzer besser zugänglich machen


 * das Wiki-Diskussionssystem für erfahrene Benutzer effizienter machen


 * zu sinnvollen Gesprächen, die die Zusammenarbeit unterstützen, ermutigen

Strukturierte Diskussionen wurde für Benutzerdiskussionsseiten und wikiweite Diskussionsseiten in unterschiedlichen Sprachen für Wikimedia-Projekte und MediaWiki.org entwickelt – siehe Structured Discussions/Rollout. In einigen Wikis, wie der französischsprachigen Wikipedia, der chinesischsprachigen Wikipedia und Wikidata ist es basierend auf Entscheidungen der Gemeinschaft als Opt-In-Beta-Funktion verfügbar und erlaubt Benutzern, Strukturierte Diskussionen für ihre eigene Benutzerdiskussionsseite zu aktivieren. Basierend auf Entscheidungen der Gemeinschaft haben die englischsprachige Wikipedia, Commons und Meta die Funktion deaktiviert. Einige andere Wikis probieren Strukturierte Diskussionen auf unterschiedliche Arten aus. Um die Aktivierung der Strukturierten Diskussionen für dein Wiki zu beantragen, siehe Structured Discussions/Request Structured Discussions on a page.

Strukturierte Diskussionen war zunächst als “Flow” bekannt. Flow war ein größeres Projekt, das neu ausgerichtet wurde, um sich auf die Diskussion zwischen Benutzern zu konzentrieren. Aufgrund dieser Änderung wurde die Software umbenannt.

History
After the initial development round, Flow has been in active maintenance mode, with no major development since mid-2015; no significant new features have been added since then. The team continued to support the product and fix bugs and to make sure that people who were using Flow continue to have a good experience.

The Collaboration Team remained interested in the project and in providing an improved system for structured discussions. Communities have also expressed interest, by requesting Flow for testing or for real-cases use. To make decisions about the way forward in this area and future developments, a survey was sent to many Flow users in September 2016; the results were published in February 2017. Those results have been used to make the Wikimedia Foundation’s plans.

Structured Discussions improvements were a goal of the 2017-2018 Fiscal Year development plan, focusing on search and interactions between topics. Discussions around those improvements lead to the Talk pages consultation 2019, where talk pages usages and culture were discussed broadly across the wikis.

Development status
There are no developments scheduled. Maintenance of Structured discussions are still done.

Deployments
Structured Discussions are available on certain wikis. Starting in July 2019, Wikimedia wikis that don’t have a Structured Discussions board enabled will not have Structured Discussions activated.

Components of the current discussion system
You can have a look at the quick tour to discover the most important features.

Overall design

 * Design density: readability is improved and eye-fatigue is diminished by a more airy design
 * Topic order: topics are displayed from last-added to first-added, like it is on most discussion systems on the Web.
 * Message separation: different messages in the same thread will be visually distinguished through design cues.
 * Navigation and archiving: the software features infinite scrolling on a Structured Discussions board, with all of the discussions accessible on the same page. A Table of Contents in the side rail to help users navigate quickly between topics on a board.

Notifications and interactions

 * Topic namespace and links to replies: each topic is a separate page and every message has its own link to ease quoting.
 * Notifications: a set of notifications ease topic watching. Users are notified when a new message is created on a page they watch, or if a reply is posted on a topic they watch. Notifications link directly to the messages.

Add or edit messages

 * Input method: the visual editor and wikitext editors are equal input methods, users can switch back and forth at anytime.
 * Threading: Messages are posted below the oldest one and don’t require editing a whole section. There is no need to know the threading system using wikitext, reply buttons provide two sets of indentations for digressions.
 * Auto signature: each message is automatically signed and timestamped.
 * Editing messages: each message can be edited (depending on user’s rights) without editing the whole section of messages. If someone other than the original author edits a comment, that fact is highlighted.
 * Mention users: mentioning is eased by a mini-search system.

Message moderation

 * "Hide", "Delete" and "Suppress" - analogous to revert, revision-deletion and oversight - are available on Structured Discussion. Users also need the ability to delete/suppress entire threads.
 * Since threads can potentially exist on multiple discussion pages, a protection system that is equitable to users is difficult to get just right.
 * User links automatically include links to their contributions and block links, to help sysops deal with disruption quickly and effectively.

Development principles
With any complex software project, it's almost impossible for the designers, developers and product people to know everything. This is a particular problem in an environment like that of the Wikimedia projects - due to the sandbox-like nature of the place, there are tens of thousands of different workflows, different user needs, and different problems. Even if we could accurately identify all of them, we can't necessarily tell if our solution is the right one until we put it in front of users.

Accordingly, we're keeping two things in mind while we're developing the Structured Discussions software. First: we are partners with the community on this. Editors are welcome and encouraged to participate in the development process, pointing out things we've missed, identifying and describing new workflows, and helping keep us honest - when something hits this level of complexity, it's impossible to make things work without as many people helping as possible. Before and after we build things, we'll open a conversation about the feature. Second: a lot of the work we're going to do, at least initially, is experimental: we don't know if it's the right implementation of a feature. If it's not, we'll be happy to roll it back.

Release and features FAQ
See the detailed page.

Who's working on Structured Discussions?
The Global Collaboration team. Product manager is James Forrester.

Contact and links

 * IRC channel:


 * Phabricator:
 * Collaboration team (the primary task management locations): Current, Backlog
 * Structured Discussions (as Flow): open tasks, all tasks, submit new task