Engineering Community Team/Meetings/2013-03-19

General requests

 * Come to the Bugzilla office hours today
 * Comments on the expanded version of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Product_development and the new version of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_contribute ?
 * Note: events on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Calendar (and related pages) now support events spanning multiple days, using the "enddate" parameter
 * Skim the open tasks https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Product_development in case you have anything to add!
 * IRC bug triage today re LQT (and a blog post! https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/03/19/help-wikimedia-squash-software-bugs/ )
 * Are we using #wikimedia-office per  https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Sharihareswara_%28WMF%29/archivedectmeetings_Feb2013#Wikimedia_QA_IRC_channel_or_mail_list_or_open_other_direct_channels.3F ?
 * Go ahead and greet every person who shows up even if it feels a little foolish
 * Check out https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Agte_lJNpi-OdGpJSHdMZV83UjdTdHc5UFVrdXBwaWc#gid=0 -- ensuring we test a variety of features and balance testability, urgency,  movement goals, etc.? (Including exploratory testing & test  automation)
 * Check Measuring success of QA activities: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/QA/Strategy#Measuring_success

Previous volunteer events
Mobile upload: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile_QA/Commons_uploads#Results

Number of people who tried to upload at least one picture (new users): 34. 9 for iOS and 28 for Android.

21 non-WMF people used the mobile web upload features, and they uploaded a total of 30 images.

QA: Browser automation testing for Wikipedia Search http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/QA/Browser_testing/Search_features Was it successful? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/QA/Browser_testing/Search_features#Evaluation In the future: let's try doing it in longer form, not so synchronous
 * Chris wanted to see ~10 edits to the backlog page http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Qa/test_backlog
 * 6 scenarios added from the exercise
 * How many people whom we didn't expect make the edits? And how many of them are not WMFers? Goal: 5 scenarios written by 5 volunteers
 * 7 participants, one not connected to WMF
 * "7" includes Valerie & Sucheta.
 * Note: the IRC channel was observed, and at least one non-participant IRC observer complimented the exercise.

Next volunteer event
What's the next exercise? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Calendar  How will we do outreach?
 * Features testing partnering with Weekend Testing scheduled Apr 6, targeting E3 projects "New Tools for New Users" or similar . Public announcements week of Mar 25.
 * predefine what data we want so we can get it from partner teams better

OPW wrapup

 * Quim has set up meetings with all mentor/mentee pairs, an all-hands at end

Search bugs
Search is nominally functioning on beta labs, but should be tested using enwiki as a reference. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34250 Andre at some point wants to push for consensus to reduce # of search components in BZ
 * Andre would like to clarify: Are we (Chris, Ram, Andre, etc) fine with http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Search and https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ram, the current status of bug reports after initial cleanup, and Search testing infrastructure [plans], or is there any further discussion or meeting wanted by involved parties?
 * http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Cmcmahon(WMF)/Search_bugs_draft
 * Of these 4 components, 2 deal with Lucene
 * move to subpage of Search
 * Chris would like to know from Ram what bugs are to be addressed in the very near future.
 * Andre, what are the candidates for fixing in the very near term? (before we switch to Solr.)
 * Let's aim to document the weird ways search works now so we can decide on behavior for the future.
 * ask Ram & Chad

Bugzilla admin rights
From February conversation:
 * Come up with guidelines and requirements who should be Bugzilla admin and why. Nothing in place currently, number growing -> coordination  and security issue, plus do non-employees need an NDA? RFC planned for  later this week by Andre.

Followup?
 * No feedback by Geoff. Philippe said that an NDA is definitely needed (Bugzilla admin = access to Security bug reports), and "whether we want to even allow it" (non-WMF Bugzilla admins) "at all, that's an Engineering decision", so the ball is back in our court.
 * Is it possible to have a lower level of access than admin that will still be helpful?
 * Decision: Andre to come up with proposed policy and bring it up at an Ops meeting, where they will probably agree, and then implement it.

Vacations & conferences
Andre: OSBridge talk deadline extended http://opensourcebridge.org/blog/2013/03/were-extending-our-call-for-proposals/ Saturday, March 23 at 11:59 p.m. Texas Linux Fest: deadline April 1st
 * Easter Holidays from Fri March29 - Mon April01 (that's public holidays here)
 * maybe https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_contribute/Presentation ?

Consider http://2013.texaslinuxfest.org/, Valerie! Željko:

out of office for Platform Engineering team meeting this week, attending local bi-monthly software tester's meetup

May 24-26, Amsterdam Hackathon

June 10-12, Selenium Conference

Submitted talks/workshops for a couple of local open source conferences, waiting for reply (May 15-17, September 06-07)

Chris:

Apr 22-25 (Google Test Automation Conference, NYC)

May 2-5 (Telerik Test Summit Peer Conference, Austin TX)

May 24-26 Amsterdam Hackathon

Aug 4-10 Agile2013 (not certain but likely)

Sumana:
 * Somewhat out of communication Thursday & Friday due to SMWCon in NYC