Structured Discussions/fr


 * Pour les informations concernant l'installation et l'utilisation de l'extension des Discussions structurées, voir Extension:StructuredDiscussions.

Les Discussions structurées (anciennement Flow) sont un projet de l'équipe Collaboration globale de la Fondation Wikimedia pour construire un autre système de discussion pour les projets Wikimedia. Structured Discussions provides features that are present on some other popular websites, but which are not possible to implement in wikitext. For example, Structured Discussions can show readable threads on mobile as well as desktop, automatically signs posts, threads replies (with an in-database relation between each), and permits per-topic notifications.

Les objectifs principaux du projet des Discussions structurées sont :


 * rendre le système de discussion du wiki plus accessible pour les nouveaux utilisateurs


 * rendre le système de discussion du wiki plus efficace pour les utilisateurs expérimentés


 * encourager les discussions fructifiantes qui appellent à la collaboration

Structured Discussions has been deployed on user talk and wiki-wide discussion pages on various languages in the Wikimedia content projects, as well as on MediaWiki.org – see Structured Discussions/Rollout. On some wikis, including main ones like French Wikipedia, Chinese Wikipedia and Wikidata, it is available as an opt-in Beta feature, based on community decisions, allowing users to turn on Structured Discussions for their own user talk page. Sur la Wikipedia anglophone, sur Commons, et Meta ceci est désactivé faisant suite aux décisions de la communauté. D'autres wikis essaient d'utiliser les Discussions structurées de différentes manières. To request the activation of Structured Discussions on your wiki, see Structured Discussions/Request Structured Discussions on a page.

Structured Discussion was formerly known as “Flow”. Flow was a bigger project that has been re-scoped to focus on user-to-user discussions. The software has been renamed to reflect this change.

Historique
After the initial development round, Flow has been in active maintenance mode, with no major development since mid-2015; no significant new features have been added since then. The team continued to support the product and fix bugs and to make sure that people who were using Flow continue to have a good experience.

The Collaboration Team remained interested in the project and in providing an improved system for structured discussions. Des communautés ont aussi exprimé leur intérêt en demandant Flow pour faire leurs tests ou pour l'utiliser réellement. To make decisions about the way forward in this area and future developments, a survey was sent to many Flow users in September 2016; the results were published in February 2017. Ces résultats ont été utilisés pour établir les plans de la Fondation Wikimedia.

Structured Discussions improvements were a goal of the 2017-2018 Fiscal Year development plan, focusing on search and interactions between topics. Discussions around those improvements lead to the Talk pages consultation 2019, where talk pages usages and culture were discussed broadly across the wikis.

Etat du développement
Il n'y a pas de développements prévus. La maintenance des Discussions structurées est encore en cours.

Déploiements
Les discussions structurées sont disponibles sur certains wikis. Starting in July 2019, Wikimedia wikis that don’t have a Structured Discussions board enabled will not have Structured Discussions activated.

Composants du système de discussion actuel
Vous pouvez regarder le tour d'horizon rapide pour découvrir les fonctionnalités les plus importantes.

Architecture générale

 * Design density: readability is improved and eye-fatigue is diminished by a more airy design


 * Topic order: topics are displayed from last-added to first-added, like it is on most discussion systems on the Web.


 * Message separation: different messages in the same thread will be visually distinguished through design cues.


 * Navigation and archiving: the software features infinite scrolling on a Structured Discussions board, with all of the discussions accessible on the same page. A Table of Contents in the side rail to help users navigate quickly between topics on a board.

Notifications et interactions

 * Topic namespace and links to replies: each topic is a separate page and every message has its own link to ease quoting.


 * Notifications: un ensemble de sujets de notifications faciles à suivre. Users are notified when a new message is created on a page they watch, or if a reply is posted on a topic they watch. Les notifications fournissent un lien directement vers les messages.

Ajouter ou modifier les messages

 * Input method: the visual editor and wikitext editors are equal input methods, users can switch back and forth at anytime.


 * Threading: Messages are posted below the oldest one and don’t require editing a whole section. There is no need to know the threading system using wikitext, reply buttons provide two sets of indentations for digressions.


 * Auto signature: each message is automatically signed and timestamped.


 * Editing messages: each message can be edited (depending on user’s rights) without editing the whole section of messages. If someone other than the original author edits a comment, that fact is highlighted.


 * Mention users: mentioning is eased by a mini-search system.

Modération des messages

 * "Hide", "Delete" and "Suppress" - analogous to revert, revision-deletion and oversight - are available on Structured Discussion. Les utilisateurs ont également besoin de la possibilité d'effacer/supprimer des fils de discussion entiers.


 * Since threads can potentially exist on multiple discussion pages, a protection system that is equitable to users is difficult to get just right.


 * User links automatically include links to their contributions and block links, to help sysops deal with disruption quickly and effectively.

Principes du développement
With any complex software project, it's almost impossible for the designers, developers and product people to know everything. This is a particular problem in an environment like that of the Wikimedia projects - due to the sandbox-like nature of the place, there are tens of thousands of different workflows, different user needs, and different problems. Even if we could accurately identify all of them, we can't necessarily tell if our solution is the right one until we put it in front of users.

Accordingly, we're keeping two things in mind while we're developing the Structured Discussions software. Premier point : nous sommmes des partenaires de la communauté sur cela. Editors are welcome and encouraged to participate in the development process, pointing out things we've missed, identifying and describing new workflows, and helping keep us honest - when something hits this level of complexity, it's impossible to make things work without as many people helping as possible. Avant de construire les choses, nous allons ouvrir une conversation à propos de la fonctionnalité. Second: a lot of the work we're going to do, at least initially, is experimental: we don't know if it's the right implementation of a feature. Si ce n'est pas le cas, nous serions heureux de revenir en arrière.

FAQ des versions et des fonctionnalités
Voir la page détaillée.

Qui travaille sur les discussions structurées ?
L'équipe de Collaboration globale. Le gestionnaire du produit est James Forrester.

Contact et liens

 * canal IRC :


 * Phabricator:
 * Equipe de Collaboration (endroit pour la gestion des tâches primaires): Actuelles, Arriéré des tâches à réaliser
 * Discussions structurées (comme Flow): tâches ouvertes, toutes les tâches,soumettre une nouvelle tâche