Thread:Talk:New Page Patrol Zoom Interface/Effectiveness of "catching the creators while they are still online and logged in"/reply

Any solution(s) has:has to  be addressed around the three main  players: 1) The NPPer, 2) the article creator, and 3) the deleting  admin (in  the case of CSD). Gathering  research  is difficult and probably  the best  indication is the empirical experience from the kind of new page patrolling  that  I  have spent  50 or so hours doing  over the last  few days. If  anyone wants some feedback  on  how the patroller are performing, they  can go  herehttp://toolserver.org/~snottywong/cgi-bin/patrolreport.cgi than work  their way systematically  through  the list  looking  at  all the articles that  have been patrolled, and if they  have been wrongly  patrolled, checking  the NPPers'  talk  pages to  see if they  have been warned before,  and than correcting  any  mis-tags on  the fly. I'll  list  some points that  I  have mentioned many  times before:


 * 1) NPP needs to  be either a right, or NPPers must  undergo  some form  of gtraining. I  have suggested a video  turial  as the  best  solution.
 * 2) Article creators are often SPA and don't come back to  see what  has happened to  their article.  Almost  all  new pages are by  newly  registered accounts.
 * 3) Do the deleting admins always check  what  has been tagged? Or do  they  take the NNPers at  their word?Solutions:
 * Train the NPPers and make NPP  a user right.
 * De-index and move very poor but  possibly  salvagable articles to  AfC or user space; With  of course a suitable message to  the creators:
 * Welccome to Wikipedia and thank you  for your contributions. The article articlename that  you  recently  createdis unfortunately  not  suitable for immedate publication and has been moved to  [xxxxxxxxxxx where you  will  be able to  develop  it further without  fear of deletion. When the article is ready, it can be moved back  to  mainsspace by  an established editor.   Thank you, and happy  editing!


 * Get Twinkle to  leave a message on  the creator's talk  page when any maintenance tag  is applied. What  takes up  most  of my  patrolling  time is placing  custom messages such  as:
 * Welcome to Wikipedia and thank you  for your contributions. The article articlename that  you  recently  created has been flagged for urgent attention. Please consider returning  to  the article and addressing  the issues that  have been pointed out. If  the artice is likely  to  take longer to  develop  than  you  thought, perhaps you  would prefer develop  it  in  your user space. -  an editor could move it  there for you. Thank you, and happy  editing!

Such  features would be extremely  easy  to  implement - but  it  appears these suggestions are not  making  resonance. As no solution  for CorenBot  seems to  be forthcoming, and in  the light  of the dozens  of new articles (all  slated for deletion) coming  from  India in  the wake of the  India Education Program, something  needs to  be done quickly.