Thread:Talk:Athena/Great stuff, go even further!

Mad props. I think this design is great.

I would go even further in getting rid of links, or stuffing them into icons. I see "Random Page" has gone (probably available in the "more" stuff?). We should carefully consider and measure whether things like "Contents" are really useful any more. Yes it will be painful for us, but the more things we can eliminate, the easier it will be for the user to find important things, like "Edit page" or "Help".

"Upload File" is an interesting case. IMO in a desktop situation, it ought to be moved to the editing experience. However, it's also the easiest way for a user on a mobile device to contribute anything -- perhaps they can add a photo to the very article they are reading. Have to think about that.

I see you added an "updated N units of time ago" thing. That's a great idea to get across the idea that this is a living document. I think the "Edit page" thing is very bold, but that's probably about what is needed, if we believe it's an important goal to let users know they can edit.

I like the simple black and white graphics. MOAR of this please. Now the lock and other icons in the title look downright dowdy.

One question, what's are the 3-D elements on the top and bottom toolbar about? Are you trying to suggest that there are "Article" actions and then other stuff? Not sure it's worth ruining the plain top and bottom visual line. I find them a bit of a distraction from reading.