Reading/Web/Advanced mobile contributions/Navigation prototype feedback/Feedback

Daylen
1. What Device and browser are you using? iPhone 6 and Safari

'''Take a minute or two to orient yourself. Click around the mobile navigation at the top of the page and see what is different. Keep in mind that since this is a prototype most of the links don’t actually work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.'''

2. What are some of your initial impressions (do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly notable?) As a Wikipedia editor, I realize that the star icon is for adding a page to your watchlist; however, it seems more like an add to favorites button for the general public. The languages button looks more like a translate button, I would rather see it in the search or up to the right of the article title. The history button should be moved up with article and talk. The language/watchlist/history/edit toolbar shouldn't scroll down with the page, I doubt someone would change the page's language in the middle of an article. Under the user icon, the beta button seems to just be cluttering the interface, it can already be accessed under preferences.

3. Is anything particularly hard to find? The edit button is definitely harder to find that it should be. A text label should go along with it, as the icon is unclear.

4. Is anything missing? I'm not sure how it would handle banner templates. Categories and navboxes are still missing.

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5. An article’s talk page The new section button is super unclear. No message that this is about discussing changes to the article, not a general message board about the topic. The prototype is missing edit buttons next to the sections.

6. Search The Wikipedia wordmark stays in place while typing the search. Also, the search doesn't work (nothing happens when I press enter).

7. Your own talk page The search doesn't work.

8. The wikidata item for a page The link under the menu isn't working.

9. The history of a talk page Very cluttered. The text went from very spaced out to squeezed. The links are so small now, they are hard to press. A back to article button should also be present.

10. Community portal None of the links in the hamburger menu function on my phone.

11. Your sandbox Link not working. However, I can see the link turn grey when I click on it, which unveils that the shovel icon has a white background.

12. Notifications I really like this; however, an exit button should be in the top right corner.

'''13. Final thoughts? Anything goes...''' Dark mode, please!

Amire80
1. What Device and browser are you using?

Samsung Galaxy S7, Firefox.

'''Take a minute or two to orient yourself. Click around the mobile navigation at the top of the page and see what is different. Keep in mind that since this is a prototype most of the links don’t actually work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.'''

2. What are some of your initial impressions (do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly notable?)

The icons are spread evenly along the top bar. Not especially useful, but not bad either.

3. Is anything particularly hard to find?

The languages icon is the important thing for me. It is at the same place, so it's not worse than it used to be. However, I have a strong suspicion that a lot of people who would read it in a different language don't know that "文A" means "You may find your language here". It's an icon that designers on several websites use, but I don't know how well was it tested with users who actually need to find a different language.

4. Is anything missing?

Nothing that I can immediately see.

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5. An article’s talk page

Found the "Talk" icon underneath the title was easy, and clicking it did what I expected. Great! (Now, if only writing on talk pages was as convenient...)

6. Search

It's at the top, at the usual place. No comments.

7. Your own talk page

Tapped the person icon, and the "Talk" icon was there. Pretty OK.

8. The wikidata item for a page

"View Wikidata item" under the three dots menu. Found it quickly and easily. It's the one that I'll probably use the most often!

9. The history of a talk page

The clock icon in the middle of the bar. Easy to find. It's a shame that the history page has such a messy and outdated design :(

10. Community portal

Under the three-stripes icon, easy to find. It will be a challenge to make the actual page work well in all languages, though, because it's heavily customized everywhere differently.

11. Your sandbox

Easy to find under the Person icon. I doubt that it's very useful, though. Sandbox was useful on the desktop fifteen years ago, when people needed to play with wiki syntax a lot. By now the focus on both mobile and desktop should be on letting people do things intuitively immediately without having to test in a sandbox. The wiki approach is supposed to be focused on letting all people edit quickly and not on learning wiki syntax tricks.

12. Notifications

In the bell icon, easy to find.

'''13. Final thoughts? Anything goes...'''


 * 1) Please see the interlanguage links icon comment above. It deserves its own attention and testing with people who are not experienced editors like I am. In particular, it will benefit the most from testing by showing people an article in a language they don't know and seeing whether they are able to find an article in a language they do know. This is supposed to be this icon's real purpose.
 * 2) "Download PDF" is not so necessary for Wikipedia articles when using Firefox on Android. The browser has its own PDF saving function and it works very well, even in hard to display languages such as Urdu and Burmese. I don't know about other browsers, however. It's possible that the "Download PDF" button will be popular in some countries that need better offline reading support, but you should give some thought to whether it should be so prominent to everybody. I'd imagine, for example, that the Wikidata button would be much more useful for
 * 3) Same for "Print". I never printed anything from my phone. Maybe it will be useful for some people, but please think whether it should be so prominent.
 * 4) (Going back to languages yet again, one could argue that reading in other languages is also something that not everybody needs, but this does have to be discoverable because the people who need it, really need it.)

Romaine
1. What Device and browser are you using?

Samsung, Android

'''Take a minute or two to orient yourself. Click around the mobile navigation at the top of the page and see what is different. Keep in mind that since this is a prototype most of the links don’t actually work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.'''

2. What are some of your initial impressions (do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly notable?)

Not confusing, it is clear. But I must say, experienced people know what the star (watchlist) is for, newbies might not.

3. Is anything particularly hard to find?

Nope, everything easy to find so far I could think of.

4. Is anything missing?

Not that I can think of.

Try navigating to the following places, adding any feedback you have (note: most of the links don't actually work when you tap them, just find them in the nav if you can)

5. An article’s talk page

Link easily found, is prominent visible. (But on the talk page wondering why there is one button for editing (which suggests adding new header + message), while editing in general seems missing.)

6. Search

Originally I did not notice the whole bar of search and others, but is logically there.

7. Your own talk page

Seems logical place to me.

8. The Wikidata item for a page

Easily found, logical place.

9. The history of a talk page

Easily found. However, after visiting the history getting back to the article or talk page itself, seems to be missing.

10. Community portal

Easily found, logical place.

11. Your sandbox

Easily found, logical place.

12. Notifications

Easily found, had seen it already.

'''13. Final thoughts? Anything goes...'''

I use interwiki links a lot, the ones in the sidebar. Both to other Wikipedia language editions and to Commons, etc. The button for this in the top corner is not working, so I could not try it. In the actual Wikipedia version only the language links to articles about the same subject in other Wikipedias is there in the mobile version, but not the link to Commons and Wikiquote, while in the webversion this is available in the sidebar.

C933103
1. What Device and browser are you using?

Android Sony Compact Phone, Chrome Browser

'''Take a minute or two to orient yourself. Click around the mobile navigation at the top of the page and see what is different. Keep in mind that since this is a prototype most of the links don’t actually work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.'''

2. What are some of your initial impressions (do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly notable?)

Nice that talk page and other features are more accessible. However it increased the distance before users can scroll down to article content

3. Is anything particularly hard to find?

Article main text

Also how to switch to night mode?

Link to Preference and Beta features should probably be put on the left hand side menu for easier to find?

4. Is anything missing?

LanguageConverter buttons

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5. An article’s talk page

Actually is the button taken too much place for what supposed should only be used by editors to discuss the article?

6. Search

the default text should not overlap with typed text

7. Your own talk page

It can be shove into some more hidden places as user usually won't visit their own talk page unless they get notified.

8. The wikidata item for a page

okay. But how many people actually interested in visiting wikidata item?

9. The history of a talk page

How am I supposed to navigate to history of a talk page when currently the prototype doesn't link to a working talk page? I would have expect to find link to that there

10. Community portal

Seems to be a rather strange choice of button placement

11. Your sandbox

IMO the button shouldn't be available as everyone have their own different sandbox link

12. Notifications

How would it group notifications from different wikis?

'''13. Final thoughts? Anything goes...'''

Please develop an editor that won't use js by default

Also, ability to switch between different mobile editors

And how about implementing a text to speech button?

jessiscool
1. What Device and browser are you using?

Android Moto phone Chrome Mobile browser

'''Take a minute or two to orient yourself. Click around the mobile navigation at the top of the page and see what is different. Keep in mind that since this is a prototype most of the links don’t actually work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.'''

2. What are some of your initial impressions (do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly notable?)

- language - favorite - history - edit
 * I find the placement of the "Article" and "Talk" pages super clean
 * I'm assuming the top level icons are:


 * I like the human readable accessibility of the phrase "cite this page"
 * This is a finger friendly design. The target taps are nice and easy to do without messing up anything.

3. Is anything particularly hard to find?


 * did you get rid of section edit links? this is super important for mobile users to save in scrolling

4. Is anything missing?

(your feedback here)

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5. An article’s talk page

again, I love this placement. It's very high in the page hierarchy so it's easy to find.

6. Search

It seems intuitive here. A part of me wants to the capability to do a in article search in a quicker way. I think that I want this because I don't see section edits or a TOC.

7. Your own talk page

I'm a little confused if it should be in the Username1980 tab or the "Talk" tab.

8. The wikidata item for a page

Nice, I'm curious to see what this is and how it's different than Page Information. Nitpick but the weight of the icon compared to the icon above and below it seems heavy.

9. The history of a talk page I always find this specific element a bit confusing. I knew how to get to it at least.

10. Community portal

is this "talk"? I often get confused by the Talk page, community portal and my own talk page.

11. Your sandbox

Super clear.

12. Notifications

LOVE LOVE LOVE nice work. Clean and intuitive. How will alerts look?

'''13. Final thoughts? Anything goes...'''


 * I would test if the language icon is universally understood, if you haven't already

MichaelMaggs
1. What Device and browser are you using?

iPhone, Safari

'''Take a minute or two to orient yourself. Click around the mobile navigation at the top of the page and see what is different. Keep in mind that since this is a prototype most of the links don’t actually work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.'''

2. What are some of your initial impressions (do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly notable?)

Interesting idea to insert the infobox between the first and second paragraphs of the lead. That works well here, but not sure how it will work more generally. In some articles it may destroy the reader's flow and obscure the sense.

The infobox appears in full, which means a lot of scrolling down to the second paragraph. Would prefer it to be kept within a Quick Facts expandable section, but in that case you'd need to find a way to make sure the lead image isn't hidden by default.

3. Is anything particularly hard to find?

All OK

4. Is anything missing?

Noted immediately that the text "''Kurosawa" redirects here. For other uses, see Kurosawa (disambiguation)''" is missing. That is not good.

I hope that warning templates such as Template:Disputed are not going to be omitted. Just because a reader accesses an article on mobile should not mean they miss the very important information at the top. Leaving out any templates simplifies the text but they are absolutely essential for even a casual reader, especially where they indicate that the text may be disputed or unreliable. They are also crucial for any editor. (That's a fundamental issue with the existing reader, and the reason I almost always drop out into desktop mode).

Categories and navboxes are still missing.

Try navigating to the following places, adding any feedback you have (note: most of the links don't actually work when you tap them, just find them in the nav if you can)

5. An article’s talk page

Easy to find, but no apparent way to edit a talk page (eg to correct a previous comment or to reply to a thread). Appears only to allow entirely new postings.

6. Search

There's a nice big search bar along the top, but does that search the whole of Wikipedia or search for text within the current page? If the former, I can't see clearly how to do the latter.

7. Your own talk page

Easy to find

8. The wikidata item for a page

Easy to find, and increasingly a useful feature.

9. The history of a talk page

Easy to find but layout on iPhone needs work. Layout generally very messy and confusing, especially to anyone who isn't closely familiar with what this looks like on desktop. On all lines apart from the first, the radio box directly abuts the bracket that immediately follows prev. The buttons are far too small to work with, and the user has to expand the text hugely before clicking on anything - which causes the text to move off the screen.

Odd that to go from the talk page to the main page requires clicking on the Article button at the top, but going from history to the main page requires the user to hit the back button on the browser.

10. Community portal

Easy to find

11. Your sandbox

Easy to find, but of very limited usefulness especially on mobile.

12. Notifications

Easy to find. Presumably unread notifications will light up the bell icon.

'''13. Final thoughts? Anything goes...'''

A dark mode would be nice.

Puppe100
1. What Device and browser are you using?

Samsung Galaxy J5 (2017), Samsung Internet

'''Take a minute or two to orient yourself. Click around the mobile navigation at the top of the page and see what is different. Keep in mind that since this is a prototype most of the links don’t actually work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.'''

2. What are some of your initial impressions (do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly notable?)

Lot of different functions. More links to userpage, whatclist and contributions.

3. Is anything particularly hard to find?

Nothing. I found everything what I need on mobile.

4. Is anything missing?

Minor edits, if they aren't yet.

Try navigating to the following places, adding any feedback you have (note: most of the links don't actually work when you tap them, just find them in the nav if you can)

5. An article’s talk page

Easy to find. More easier than it's now.

6. Search

Easy to find. But when you write something, the Wikipedia logo is on top of the text.

7. Your own talk page

Easy to find.

8. The wikidata item for a page

Easy to find. When you press thee dots you find it.

9. The history of a talk page

Easy to find, but it don't look good. That will be fix.

10. Community portal

Easy to find.

11. Your sandbox

Easy to find.

12. Notifications

In same place than now.

'''13. Final thoughts? Anything goes...'''

Looks pretty good. Lot of more functions that you need almost every day.

There are some things that will be to fix. 1. When you write something to search, the Wikipedia logo is on top of the text. 2. Page history don't looks good. Now history looks better than on this version. 3. When you open notifications or menu the scrolling don't work well. When you want go to down only article goes down, no the menu or notifications. Now scrolling works good.

I don't know is this thing only demo version, but text resulotion looks poor. Text don't looks accurate. Minor edits is also very important to add.

Ranjithsiji
1. What Device and browser are you using? Android8 (Redmi Note4), Firefox Klar, Fennac, Foss browser

'''Take a minute or two to orient yourself. Click around the mobile navigation at the top of the page and see what is different. Keep in mind that since this is a prototype most of the links don’t actually work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.'''

2. What are some of your initial impressions (do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly notable?) As a Wikipedia reader, Article, Talk, Star Icon, More menu everything is good. Notifications are great. The icon of multiple language must be changed to a much more expressive. If we can put the edit icon with text near to the article and talk section then it will be great. The Main aim of Wikipedia is edit an article.

3. Is anything particularly hard to find? The edit button must be added to article, talk set. Article index section must be on a seperate menu. 4. Is anything missing? Categories, Templates at the footer, Prettyurl or tinyurl for non english wikis, A share icon.

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5. An article’s talk page It is not look like a talk page. A redesign is needed. A top message to indicate that this is a talk page. And atleast one section must be expanded to indicate that this is a talk page. Need new section button with a different color or a good icon. Edit buttons on all sections. If there is a provision to display the date of each section then that will be more clear.

6. Search "Search in Wikipedia" is better. The autocomplete dropdown need a rework.

7. Your own talk page I cant go to the user talk page

8. The wikidata item for a page The link under the menu isn't working.

9. The history of a talk page It is super confusing. Nee a complete rework. This is just the conventional history page in desktop which is very difficult to understand.

10. Community portal Can't reach there by using the hamburger menu.

11. Your sandbox Can't reach there by clicking the link. There is a visual change on click which is good.

12. Notifications This is great. Nice design with clear seperation between sections. A close button, small x on the top right side is more appreciated.

'''13. Final thoughts? Anything goes...''' Need an option to change the font size, color (dark mode). A share button to share this page to other services from mobile.

JDrewniak (WMF)
Prefacing my review with "I'm not an active editor".

1. What Device and browser are you using?

iPhone 6S, Safari

'''Take a minute or two to orient yourself. Click around the mobile navigation at the top of the page and see what is different. Keep in mind that since this is a prototype most of the links don’t actually work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across. Also keep in mind that this design is meant for experienced users, not new readers or new editors'''

2. What are some of your initial impressions (do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly notable?)

The first thing I read is the "Talk" button. Then I see the row of icons and I try clicking them, then I click the menu with the three dots. That menu seems to reveal metadata about the article, nothing surprising, except I wonder what "Cite this page" does. I then click the menu in the top-left corner, and I notice "current events", which seems odd, since I don't expect to get my news from Wikipedia, I also wonder what "Community portal" is.

3. Is anything particularly hard to find?

I'm not looking for anything in particular, so I would say no.

4. Is anything missing?

Not for my very basic needs.

Try navigating to the following places, adding any feedback you have (note: most of the links don't actually work when you tap them, just find them in the nav if you can)

5. An article’s talk page

I click the button in the row of icons. The page changes, and I notice one icon changes in the row of icons. It has a plus button, so I assume it's for adding sections. The sections are all collapsed, I think I'd want to expand & read all sections before I add a comment. Back to the nav, I noticed that one icon changes, but the others stay the same, so I wonder what would happen if I click "print" or Wikidata item on a talk page.

6. Search

I click the search bar and start typing. Nothing out of the ordinary there.

7. Your own talk page

Before navigating to the talk page, I assume the flow would be the same as it is for articles i.e. I would go to my user page, and from there, I would click on the talk page. When I click the profile menu however, I notice the dedicated "Talk" button, and click that instead.

8. The wikidata item for a page

Easy to find.

9. The history of a talk page

Easy to find, but the page seems very busy and crowded.

10. Community portal

I remember it's in the top-left menu (although I honestly don't know what this page does, is this the "Village pump" page?).

11. Your sandbox

Easy to find.

12. Notifications

I went "woh" when that side-menu flew out, I guess I wasn't expecting that animation because the page-metadata icon and the profile icon reveal dropdowns instead.

'''13. Final thoughts? Anything goes...'''

In general I think the prototype reveals a lot more functionality than is currently available on mobile. I think it would probably visit talk pages more frequently with that button being readily available, and possibly edit Wikidata items more often (if Wikidata has a sane mobile editing UI).

Kaartic
1. What Device and browser are you using?

Firefox Nightly 64.0a1 on a Samsung Galaxy J1 ace (Android 5.1.1).

'''Take a minute or two to orient yourself. Click around the mobile navigation at the top of the page and see what is different. Keep in mind that since this is a prototype most of the links don’t actually work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across. Also keep in mind that this design is meant for experienced users, not new readers or new editors'''

2. What are some of your initial impressions (do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly notable?)

I find a lot of icons in the page and in the sidebar as compared to the original mobile website. This seems to help with easy navigation to different pages. The sticky bar containing links to the important things such as History, Editing etc., is nice. It would be nice if the icon for sidebar was also accessible via the sticky bar as it would make it easy to navigate to other pages such as Random when in the middle of the article rather that having to go to the top of the article. Or the sticky bar should better have the search icon. It would be much more useful to find the search icon in the sticky bar as I would more likely search when in the middle of the article than accessing the sidebar. I would suppose we can't have both as that would crowd the sticky bar ;-) Or would it be better to have both and when the screen size is smaller to have more items in the top bar we could move the less important items into the overflow menu (sort of how Android does it).

Article and Talk page switching

The fact that it's possible to switch between the Article page and its correpsonding Talk page seemlessly looks nice but there should be a way to directly go to the Talk page via a link which seems to be missing currently. When I tap on the Talk page icon the URL didn't seem to change.

Also, there should be some sort of progress indicator that would convey to the user that the Talk page is being loaded. This would be helpful especially in sluggish networks. I was staring at the screen for some time surprised to see no response after I clicked on the Talk page icon while the talk page content seemed to have been loading in the background. It's good to see the switch is faster after the initial delay, though.

3. Is anything particularly hard to find?

A link to the Talk page. I'm currently not able to get a link to the talk age of an article via the Talk page icon.

4. Is anything missing?

As also noted above:
 * A link to the talk page
 * Search icon to access search bar while browsing the middle of the article

That's all for now.

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5. An article’s talk page

Unable to obtain a link that goes directly to the talk page of the article using the "Talk page" button.

6. Search

It's easy to notice the search bar found in the top of the page when a article is loaded. Unfortunately, a user who follows a section link into the article wouldn't notice the search bar that's found in the top of the article unless he already knows it would be there. Also, it would be much better if the search was accessible in the top bar which would both improve it's accessibility and avoid the problem.

7. Your own talk page

Not sure as the links don't work. Maybe by clicking on the "human" icon near the search bar which I'm expecting would take me to my User page.

8. The wikidata item for a page

In the overflow menu.

9. The history of a talk page

In the bar above the article content, the clock icon.

10. Community portal

Sidebar

11. Your sandbox

Not sure again. Possibly by using clicking on the "human" icon near the search bar which might take me to my User page from which there might be a link my sandbox. Or maybe not?

12. Notifications

The bell icon near the human icon in the top bar.

'''13. Final thoughts? Anything goes...'''
 * The notification icon seems to be off the page and extends beyond the screen width.
 * Screen shot showing that "Notification" icon is not visible
 * Screen shot showing "Notification" icon visible after horizontal scroll


 * The side bar seems to behave weirdly. It's possible to scroll it horizontally when it's open which is very weird.
 * Video demostrating the weirdness of the sidebar

Note: It would be helpful if you could ping me in case any further information is needed. Thanks!