Talk:Wikipedia App Design

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Page 1 : Feed me more knowledge
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Page 2 : Navigation Drawers
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 * More that a bit concerned with the concept of draws behind drawers show on this screen, I think its possible to show users there is "more behind" but could be rather difficult.
 * Yuvi mentioned that on Android, that's the current pattern. Toggling between one thing and another in the same drawer. We could think of a better way to combine site nav/profile/notifications. But the reason for this move is the questions that I had like: What's important to us? We want more editors, we should think about having a dedicated space for just that to happen. Is the site nav/settings broad enough to have a dedicated drawer? Same with notifications and profile. Site nav wise, we might think of ways to not have links at all. When that happens we only have settings and profile page. And now it sounds like the right drawer is all about you and your preference for the app. Why don't we include notifications because it's only to editors that notifications become heavily used. What if I'm a read-only user? At least it's obvious now I can do more than read and make heavy use of one of my drawers. We can experiment to present it better, I'm positive there is another way. But we like the idea of combining these items in the right drawer. What do you think in that area? MGalloway (WMF) (talk)
 * It might be annoying to have to go through notification every time to see my profile/contributions Jaredzimmerman (WMF) (talk) 09:28, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * We could look into "remembering" that I ignored my current notifications until a new one comes up. Or "remembering" that I ignore my notifications and from then on defaults to site nav/settings. MGalloway (WMF) (talk)

Page 4 : Contribution overlay
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 * Drag from the W? I'm confused, it seems that this means there are now 3 drag left to right actions now, which seems really overloaded. Jaredzimmerman (WMF)
 * They are all different ideas, not all combined! That would've been an overload. MGalloway (WMF)
 * I think we can do better at showing contribution CTAs to me this feels like its actually hiding them Jaredzimmerman (WMF)
 * This is an addition to inline CTAs. There are many ways of contributing that you don't typically see within the article. MGalloway (WMF)
 * if it only turns into a draggable element when there are recent changes would it be obvious when its not in the puzzle piece stare? Jaredzimmerman (WMF) (talk) 09:28, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Also turns into a puzzle piece when there is an opportunity to contribute, which is pretty common on WP articles. But for articles like one that's so polished and is a FA, alerts of a recent edit and anything that deserves one still convey the edibtability of a polished article. MGalloway (WMF)

Page 5 : Drag to Contribute
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 * I know this could make the articles themselves cleaner but it feels like a weird interaction, it could also could be an accessibility issue, dragging to drop something on a specific precise point on screen could be a problem for people with mobility issues.
 * the puzzle piece thing is fun, but it hides the actual change, making the user have to click through to more info rather than giving them something at a glance. Jaredzimmerman (WMF) (talk) 09:28, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I know we've never seen this pattern anywhere thus far and might be why it's weird, I was thinking wildly how to make it a fluid and fun experience to find places to contribute. I can't think of a reason why this should be the only way users can edit yet, but I'm thinking it would be nice as an addition to other methods. Btw, I changed the topic to Page 5 instead of Page 3 cus it sounded like a comment for Page 5. MGalloway (WMF)
 * This feels like a weird interaction to me too. Drag-n-drop is great for direct manipulation like 'move this item from here to here' but feels very.... rarefied when used as an action initiator. --brion (talk) 12:51, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Page 7 : How did I get here?
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 * I like the concept. Jaredzimmerman (WMF) (talk) 09:28, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

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 * but, this actually seems like it would be a good "edge drag" screen rather than a totally separate place, I wonder if partial left edge drag was previous page, and full edge drag was history/how i got here would work?
 * This is a great idea, need to consider the interference of pulling out the left nav though. Left nav could be accessible via button tap instead. MGalloway (WMF)
 * partial vs full edge drag sounds complicated :) What if dragging over to reveal stuff on the left showed a (horizontally laid out) how-did-i-get-here thingy, which you can just keep on panning through to go farther back? --brion (talk) 12:50, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * would break these into "threads" "e.g. Search→wikilink→wikilink→wikilink→current page, External link→wikilink→offsite link,   echo notification→article→history,   Random→article" basically some of the ways you navigate are purposeful, like following wikilink, and some that start new threads through the site, like search, random, and external sources. Jaredzimmerman (WMF) (talk) 09:28, 10 November 2013 (UTC)