Thread:Talk:Article feedback/Please stop/reply (5)

@Subfader: Thanks! I agree; IMDb has had a long time to figure out which rating system would work best, and instead of inventing the wheel again we should learn from the mistakes they have made in the past.

@Helder: Good work! Because you included a link to this discussion in the bugreport we can try to give suggestions for a 'compact' version of the design here.

Maybe it is a good idea to move the ArticleFeedbackTool to the talkpages. The "normal" article feedback should also be on talkpages, not on the articles themselves...

People who give 4 stars only send the message: "I like the article this much". Instead we should ask them to tell us why they decided to choose that rating: what did they like about the article, what did they dislike, what should we improve to turn the 4-star rating into 5 stars? If we know that most people rate an article 4/5 for "completeness" that fact alone does not help us. We want to know what they felt was missing from the article, but we force them to use a 1-5 star system without a textbox where they can leave a comment.

I think we lose valuable information if we ask the people who rate the article to turn the pro's and con's list they have in their head into a rating of 1-5 stars: an actual textbox where they could express their opinion would be far more flexible and give them the opportunity to be a lot more specific and helpful. But we already have that, its a talkpage. So I suggest moving all the boxes to the talkpage. Ofcourse, this means there will be a bit less input and a lot less eyeballs on the article feedback tool. On the other hand I think you might get a bit less vandalism and more people who take the time to make a serious and informed rating.

Another problem is that it slows down page loading quite a bit. Maybe we can test it with software like Yslow.

The sentence "Your ratings have not been submitted yet" appears in green, a color that tells me the exact opposite of the message.

That sentence and the arrow icon in front of it should be removed imho (if we can not move all the article feedback boxes to the talkpage) because they make the box way too big and I think they do not have the positive effect they are supposed to have: the people who fail to see the huge blue button will also be unable to see the small green sentence, probably because they need to scroll down.

Its better to put the stars and the submit button next to eachother if that fits so that people see them at the same time when scrolling down.

This user will likely not submit the ratings, and the warning will fail as well.

If you put the four rating bars and the submit button next to eachother the box needs to be quite wide and it doesn't look good

Redesign

Comparison of current design (bottom) with redesign

The redesigned interface is less cluttered because I removed the trashcan icons (they should be added back in) and the sentence that warns people they need to submit their rating with the green arrow (because you need to have scrolled down enough to see the submitbutton in order to see the warning and the warning is smaller than the submitbutton) and the icon behind "View page ratings" (no longer necessary because I changed the position of the text).

After I made the redesign I realised its probably better to swap "Objective" with "Trustworthy". Ofcourse you can move the "expert" checkbox to the bottom and the submitbutton to the top if you prefer that. Is it possible to replace "What's this?" with "Help" or "Info" or "How to rate?" or "Info about rating"?

redesign v2

Ofcourse, this is a very ugly and messy image, but you get the idea.

The endresult looks something like this. The fontsize and styling of the links on the lefthandside has changed slightly.