Thread:VisualEditor/Feedback/Onboarding?/reply (6)

Hi, i made a similar proposal some time ago, aimed specifically at giving references with VisualEditor:
 * The ref icon (insert reference). It is very unintuitive. This has been pointed out over and over and over again.
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback#Icons_are_incomprehensible
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback/Archive_2013_07#Reference_Issues:_Omnibus_Edition
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback/Archive_2013_07#Mystery_meat_navigation
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback/Archive_2013_07#References
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback/Archive_2013_07#Attempting_to_add_a_reference
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback/Archive_2013_07#User_experience
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback/Archive_2013_07#Refs_and_templates
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback/Archive_2013_8#Icons_are_incomprehensible
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback/Archive_2013_12#Editing_a_footnote
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback/Toolbar#Icon_for_Reference
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback/Archive_2014_1#The_new_reference_dialogue
 * There is even a bugreport for the ref icon, which was "provisionally closed". And we're still stuck with the incomprehensible brick factory icon, which some WMF designers seem to prefer. I think the "ref [1] " is a lot better to understand. And yes, make [1] blue if this gets us better references, damn the design guidelines! But, who decides this?
 * How about this: Let's make a survey with 3 alternatives. Or not really a survey, rather a banner with user test, for potential new users, aka readers and editors. Show them the editbar full of icons (including the 3 ref icon options) and ask them to insert a reference, count which icon they click. Bonus: This test/survey would also work as a tutorial / invitation to edit (some time, not immediately) / participation tool / VE announcement. Win-win? (en:Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_117)

The proposal was pretty much shot down by whatamidoing (WMF).