User talk:Shinjiman

Translations of zh pages
Hi Shinjiman, I notice you are translating the main page into various Chinese dialects. I thought you'd better know that so far Chinese pages have been under a generic 'zh' tag, e.g. Documentation/zh. I have no idea how similar the dialects are or whether it is better to have a single 'zh' or separate zh-hans, zh-hant, etc. I thought you'd better be informed about the current state so you can decide which approach would be better. Also bear in mind that all these pages will need to be kept up to date, so more languages = more work. Also, if we decide to have separate dialects for one part of the site, we should do so for the whole site, so the existing 'zh' pages will need to be moved, copied and re-translated. Thanks. --HappyDog 06:24, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
 * okay, as of the current stage of the zh variants, I will translate them later (make the page to point them to zh pages first), it's just the beginning of the translation process. :-) --Shinjiman 06:26, 12 January 2007 (UTC)


 * OK.
 * Also, according to List of Wikipedias the correct code for Cantonese is 'zh-yue'. They also list two other chinese dialects aside from 'zh': 'zh-min-nan' and 'zh-classical', which I am assuming correspond to the two names you have used. All languages should use the appropriate code from that list, so those pages will need moving and the language template updating.  If they do not correspond then they should not be included here, as we only allow languages for which a Wikipedia exists.  --HappyDog 06:34, 12 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Please see the 8217, the zh-yue/zh-min-nan are not in the classification of ISO639 nor RFC 4646, they are the combined code only. The correct code of Cantonese should be "yue" and Min-nan should be "nan", which they are specified at ISO639-3. The code cannot shown in the localised name due to lacking information set in the Names.php. --Shinjiman 06:42, 12 January 2007 (UTC)


 * OK, but this is the site for the MediaWiki software, so we need to be consistent with the way the MediaWiki software names languages. Please use the codes as they will be in a week's time, i.e. the new codes if the change is definitely going ahead, but if there is any doubt, or the process is going to take a while, please use the existing codes.  We can move the pages if and when any changes make it into the software. By 'in use', I mean it is the official address of the associated Wikipedia, and the correct language name shows up when the  parser function is used.  Here is the current state of all the language codes that have been mentioned so far. --HappyDog 06:59, 12 January 2007 (UTC)


 * As the specifications from RFC 4646, I think the Names.php file needs to be updated. Because the parser function #language is use the localised name which is depends on the Names.php file. Should I make a bug request at the Bugzilla? :) --Shinjiman 07:03, 12 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Can you tell me which, of the above languages codes refer to which language/dialect. I am currently unclear as to which ones are duplicates and which ones are different. --HappyDog 07:06, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I have submitted the patch to 8599. There's having the information what you're asking. Seems there's also some incorrect localised names in the Names.php. --Shinjiman 07:21, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

See also the IANA language subtag registry.--Shinjiman 08:03, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Update: The yue, zh-hans and zh-hant have been added in 21200 and 21201 by Raymond, the codes that added will be going live in these few days, which is after the database update in the WMF servers. --Shinjiman 16:10, 12 April 2007 (UTC)


 * It appears that this is all now fixed (the translated names seem to be showing up as expected in the tables above). Thanks for your work on clearing this up. --HappyDog 14:35, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Add Breton to language template

 * thank you. Fulup 17:26, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
I want to say thank you for adding Dutch to template:languages :-) SPQRobin 12:11, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Localisation stats
Hi Shinjiman, could you look at my question at Talk:Localisation statistics? SPQRobin 15:38, 2 December 2007 (UTC)