Talk:VisualEditor/Single edit tab

Naming of the tabs
The naming of the tabs is suboptimal: Edit vs. Edit Source, it should be Edit vs. Edit with VE, as the normal Wikieditor should be the one without any appendix. Or both should get an appendix, as it is now it's just the wet dream of the VE developers, who want their new kid on the block get preferred status. Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 21:15, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Why are the talk pages of the translated pages in Flow?
Who had the stupid idea to make the talk pages of the translated versions Flow? They should all be redirects here, but with that stupid forum impersonation that's not possible. How far will the fanboys of that piece of junk go to push it down the throats of all users? Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 21:34, 16 April 2016 (UTC)


 * All Talk: pages at this wiki default to Flow, and have for a while. I've heard that it was done because the community here received five complaints within a day or two that the users wanted Flow pages and couldn't figure out how to start them.
 * Do you have comments about the translations? Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 15:06, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
 * The talk pages of the translated versions should be just  #redirect Talk:VisualEditor/Single edit tab , as there should be only one page for discussions. It was possible before to simply write that there on the talk pages after translation of the main page, now with this unwanted and useless forum impersonation it is no longer. Here is a proper talk page, why isn't it in the other languages? Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 17:48, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Any Talk: page that didn't exist before the change to Flow-as-default is now a Flow page. (Technically, those pages don't exist, so it's "offering" a Flow page, rather than anything really existing there.)  Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 16:26, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
 * So how will you get this right now? I, as a normal user, can't redirect a useless (in the sense of it should not be there in any shape, even as a proper talk page) Flow page to here, I could do so (and did) in the past. It's you duty as an admin (I think you have this status as an employee) to do so, if you were so eager to implement this useless (in the general sense) Flow page anywhere. When will you do so? Or will you guarantee that all such talkpages are properly maintained by you paid staff? Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 18:14, 18 April 2016 (UTC)