Quips

This page contains the list of quips that hosted the old Bugzilla installation, extracted from the latest dump available once Bugzilla was made read-only. Most (if not all) of the quips were added by MediaWiki developers and many of them need to be put in that context. Unless you're familiar with MediaWiki development and participate in the and  IRC channels, you probably won't understand or find them funny ;)

 I spent a minute looking at my own code by accident. I was thinking "What the hell is this guy doing?"  Play "stomp the developers" live on irc://irc.freenode.net/#mediawiki !  The answer is 42.  To bug or not to bug, that is the question.  [jwales] What good is having a war mongering President if we can't invade Estonia to kill spammers? I AM JOKING DO NOT QUOTE ME ON THAT. :-)  [kingturtle2] is lieutenant pronounced al-OOOOOOO-MIN-eee-um?  [SethIlys] Hmm... I'm getting 500 errors. [FennecFoxen] SethIlys- that's a lot of errors.  [Raul654] how the hell did List of people on stamps of Gabon get on my watchlist?  [Raul654] come on, isn't anyone here an admin on meta? [BillyH] I think Raul654 is.  [TimStarling] We already have kid editors. First they learn about how to edit a page, then they learn about VfD.  Dear diary: No wikipedia today. Had to go outside and see real people again. [S AlexS]  I don't know what to do and where to go. Outer world seems uneditable. (ilya)  [Kate-] (Jimbo)'s in hospital with total amnesia. [brion] "I started a *what* on the internet??"  [danny] I fear we have an international incident brewing between micronations on our recent changes  ...it should be regarded as a desperate measure, like removing a frostbitten limb.  Yesterday is a past, tomorrow is a future, today is a gift that's why it's called 'present'. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Text processing has made it possible to right-justify any idea, even one which cannot be justified on any other grounds. -J. Finnegan <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [TimShell] Is there an IRC client that has a command that will allow me to physically hurt another user, because I would find that useful <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Our new slogan... Wikipedia: Just a Little Bit More Than You Wanted To Know <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [DavidGerard] the gates over hell, with "ABANDON HOPE ALL YE WHO ENTER HERE" over them... if you can find a GFDL image <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [Raul654] ...so, since we're boned both ways, we might as well make a policy <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [dannyisme] SJ, I have removed the misplaced comma you inserted to irk me. do not think that your attempt at vandalism has not gone unnoticed <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [TimStarling] what, so you tested two servers, found that there was a good one and a bad one, and sent us the bad one? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [SethIlys]: I was always under the impression that we *wanted* copyleft. [JamesDay]: Seth, "we" is an ambiguous concept:) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> If there is nothing wrong, then something is seriously wrong. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> what kind of crazed micronation would this be without our pseudolegal formalisms? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> please put the text "[flame]" into the subject line so the rest of us can filter them out and get on to productive things? ;) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> I've only edited in languages I don't speak today so I don't know what's going on :) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> If Barbie is so popular, why do you need to buy her friends? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> You cannot fix a machine by just power-cycling it with no understanding of what is going wrong. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Arguing with an engineer is like mudwrestling a pig: after an hour or so you're covered with mud... then, suddenly, you notice the pig's really enjoying itself. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Deliberate complexity is the mark of an amateur. Elegant simplicity is the mark of a master. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> MediaZilla: Your one refuge from the Kids WB Yu-Gi-Oh Marathon <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> If something can fail, it will do so unexpectedly. If something cannot fail, it will do so disastrously. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> * brion kicks bacon in the eggs <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Lord, what fools these mortals be! <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [E]veryone takes one look at replaceInternalLinks and goes to watch TV --TimStarling <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Mark_Ryan has kicked Mark_Ryan from #wikipedia (reckless disregard for policy) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Silverman's Law: If Murphy's Law can go wrong, it will. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> f u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb n cmptr prgrmmng. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> In Soviet Russia, Wikipedia edits everyone. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Xirzon: are the servers up for slashdotting ? brion: we get more traffic than /. usually we don't even notice the bump on the traffic graphs <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> It was a bad idea. The users made me do it. -- Tim Starling in wikitech-l <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> "Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature." - Rich Kulawiec <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> This space intentionally left blank. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> And so, we don't need a business model, we're just doing it. [Jimmy Wales, early 21st century] <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [jwales] damn wikipedia spam. those people are taking over the internet <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Black holes suck. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Sometimes you just have to turn off the computer. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> 22,000,000 google hits for "wikipedia," polluting the Internet since January 15, 2001 <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> In Soviet Russia, bugs fix you <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> If the world were perfect, you wouldn't be seeing this. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> It matters not what the clocks say or the attitudes and labors of men. Morning is when I am awake and there is a dawn in me. (Henry David Thoreau) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> The bible doesn't give us all the details but it implies pancakes. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> To err is human. To really mess things up you need a computer <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Move along, nothing to see here! (Officer Barbrady) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> He's from one of the Lost Tribes of Israel which should have remained lost ---Woody Allen <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> * brion burns down an end user or two <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> I know how the MediaWiki namespace works, I invented it -- TimStarling <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> The Developers make no warranty, express or implied, as to the usability of this product, nor to the occupational hazard of poking shed loads of bug reports at us and expecting us to keep smiling. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [brion]: that sounds too much like... well i won't say it <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> ...but there are also unknown unknowns - the ones we don't know we don't know - Donald Rumsfeld <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> "This is a famous monkey. To see an automatically generated list of other famous monkeys click here." <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Text processing has made it possible to right-justify any idea, even one which cannot be justified on any other grounds. -J. Finnegan <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> It's better to burn out than to fade away - Neil Young <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> People who think they know everything really annoy those of us that do. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Hate the bug and love the developer. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> "There were grammatical errors even in his silence." -- Stanisław Jerzy Lec <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [Brion Vibber] A captcha of course is that annoying little thing that makes you type in a word or code to continue, to prove that you're probably not an abusive bot. (Or a blind person. Whoops!) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> When all else fails, reach for the hammer. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> When you start accusing everyone of being in on a conspiracy, you shouldn't be surprised if they decide to confirm your paranoia by banding together against you. (en:khaosworks) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> When I was a child I used to pray everynight for a bike. One day I realized that that is not how God works, so I stole one and prayed for god to forgive me. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> (brion) blocking all packets from 10/8 doesn't work too well when you're on a 10/8 network <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [brion] ...we can pretty much assume satan's involved; this is Wikipedia, after all <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> If the automobile had followed the same development cycle as the PC, a Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and explode once a year, killing everyone inside. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> "Install Linux, problem solved," is not advice. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [robchurch] so exercise is like installing Windows ME [brion] yes <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [TimStarling] globals are magical structures, like little winged monkeys that fly your data from wherever it is generated to wherever it is needed <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> brion: "i hate you, nfs" <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Unlike others your brain is a masterpiece. In the left half, nothing is right and in the right half, nothing is left. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> twincest: please provide a vaguer error message <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> "If it ain't broke, hit it hard enough and it soon will be!" <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Don't fix it because you should, fix it because you might be the only one who can. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> LeonWP: I already see how you'll gzip the topic one day because it's full of uninteresting stuff nobody reads <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> No matter what you do, someone out there, somewhere, will hate it - Titoxd's First Law <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> "I don't really get analysts on these things, I just do what I think sounds cool" - Jimmy Wales <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> (Brinstar) If it wasn't for C, we'd be using BASI, PASAL and OBOL. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> (Toba) how can you be decidedly and forcefully indifferent? (est) I DON'T CARE <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <TimStarling> temporary solutions have a terrible habit of becoming permanent, around here <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <brion-office> well breaking wikipedia gets real fucking old :) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Wikinews: Just because we wrote it in our pyjamas doesn't mean you shouldn't take us seriously. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> I flipped a three-sided coin, it came up "no consensus". --Kbdank71 <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.  —Ford Prefect in "Mostly Harmless" by Douglas Adams <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Never trust a programmer with a screwdriver. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> /* Sure this won't happen */ die; <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> IMO you should go with Python or something if you wanted to rewrite MW. (Of course, the downside there is that then all the Perl-lovers will hate MediaWiki *and* its developers eternally, whereas now everyone can loathe the language it's written in in total harmony, but there's always a cost.) -- Simetrical <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Contrary to popular belief, Unix is user friendly. It just happens to be very selective about who its friends are. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Simetrical> Why do IRC clients always pick the wrong name to autocomplete to? siebrand: they always pick right for me! <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> (Tim Starling) Also it probably helps robustness when you don't add 7 stack levels per pair of double braces. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Computer programming is the only profession in which you have a valid excuse to do nothing: "My code is compiling" <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Titoxd> all users are malicious, stupid, or outright dangerous <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> 18:11 < Simetrical> "Happy birthday! Soon this bug will be able to buy alcohol." <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <TimStarling> we use rackmount servers <TimStarling> they're harder to squeeze the cats into <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> give me a time machine and a clue-by-four and i can fix this problem for you <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Simetrical> Remember, your commit message isn't too long until it causes people's machines to go into swap when they read the commit mailing. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> basically wikipedia runs on the "when brion or tim gets drunk and plays with svn" build <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Splarka> that makes baby JS cry <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> if they say "do this" i'll be like "make me" and they'll be like "ok i will" and i'll be like "bring it!" <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <TimStarling> teaching is fun, it's like making clones of yourself who will do your work for you <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> I can has use case? < Simetrical> werdna, Support ~ <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Duesentrieb: WORKSFORME <Duesentrieb> GOODFORYOU <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> FunPika: do squids like candy... RobH: The squids run on information and the souls of kittens, they crave not your candy. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> oh wait... i have to *apply* the patch <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Splarka> The world will not end with a bang, but with a return false; <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Duesentrieb: London subway stations mostly sound like obscure Scandinavian death metal bands <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> If it ain't broke, it needs more features. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Splarka> wow demon, you're looking so and lately, wha' ? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <pc> can someone teach me how to backup a wiki for upgrade without scripts >_> <MrZ-man> pc: you mean like writing down the content of all of the articles on paper? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Splarka> "you caused an accidental launch of a thermonuclear device with your buggy code, you precipitated World War III! 8 billion people are dead! what do you have to say for yourself?" "PHP sucks" "Oh, well, there is that" <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <RoanKattouw> avar: You managed to commit a regression that went unnoticed for 4,5 years I blame Nikerabbit <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Facts don't cease to be facts; but news ceases to be news. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [21:05:18] Chuck Norris once dared domas to a hacking contest; Chuck Norris will never use a computer again <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> If you have more than 1000 objects loaded on a single request, you are doing something wrong as far as I am concerned. -- Rasmus Lerdorf <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Please include your latitude, longitude, and elevation in your bug report, so we know where to target the ICBM. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> I don't know nearly enough about animal reproduction to continue participating in this conversation -- TrevorParscal <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> : Hey all, Just wondering if anyone has done mediawiki in a high availability cluster? Are there any good examples out there? I've looked and struggled to find anything. <p858snake_>: dmarsh: does wikipedia count? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> To deprecate something means say nasty things about it, like "that function is lazy and good for nothing". But to save time, programmers just say "this is deprecated", instead of thinking up a new insult every time. -- Tim Starling <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> I saw a human pyramid once. It was very unnecessary. - Mitch Hedberg <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [TimStarling] "What OS is your server running on?" [Anonymous] "Windows 95. And PHP keeps making Windows crash." <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> on twitter: wrote a wikipedia article by pen today: gonna mail it to Jimbo <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> quick, hurry compile your kernels <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Bryan> everybody hates php <Bryan> but that doesn't really matter <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Belinda> Wiki BROKEN. DOMAS HELP US <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Mental notes are for poor people who can't afford real notes. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> p858snake: edit via sms.... wtf thats like 140 character max <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> svip: your comment is my comment, except wrong <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> have fun being an evil capitalist overlord <AryehGregor> Will do. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Those who can, do. Those who can't, go to #mediawiki for help :) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [In relation to single letter interwikis] Tim Starling: Simple solution: delete Wikiquote. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Homesick C developers write null as NULL because they want to believe that it is a macro defined as ((void*)0). This is not necessary. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> we invented computers so i wouldn't have to walk all the way over there <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> vvv: We came to the conclusion that the current template system indeed sucks <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <RoanKattouw> DreamWeaver won't let you edit those? That's stupid s/ won't let you edit those// <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Brack10> Mediawiki is the best thing that ever happened to me :) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <^demon> Bugzilla's permission systems suck. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Reedy> 1. Replace | with | <Reedy> 2. ????? <Reedy> 3. Profit! <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <^demon> Reedy: Don't you want 30 installations on your localhost? <Reedy> I don't have any on my localhost :o <RoanKattouw> ^demon: Of course you want 30 wikis on your localhost, so you can destroy the wrong one <^demon> Shut up. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Chzz> Whoever fixed up the edit summary box to turn red to show when too long, etc. ***THANK YOU***  big improvement; finally, a GOOD change! I want your babies. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> I will commit a new version using -e. Please check if it works there (alternatively, send me a Mac :) --Platonides <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <TimStarling> MediaWiki is useful for everything, it can simulate nuclear weapons blasts or feed your cat <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <^demon> Ok Reedy you need to stop doing everything I'm about to do. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <RoanKattouw> I was in a LinAlg course when I first visited the office, where of course we drew "Vector vs. Monobook" sketches on the whiteboard <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> we should migrate to nosql then we wouldn't have all these tables/fields problems and could have more agile development! and everything would just work <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> let's party like it's 1994 <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Platonides> if you haven't installed it, you don't have it installed <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Tim Starling: "Switched to debhelper 7 since it's the first version of debhelper designed for use by humans (as opposed to Debian maintainers)" <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> platonides is awesome <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Dantman> That's why I need a browser <Dantman> I don't memorize large lists of functions from different languages <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <^demon> qdb: You should ask in #mediawiki-i18n. The guys who run translatewiki.net hang out there. [16:39] --> You are now talking on #mediawiki-i18n * ^demon kicks himself, walks away *very* sheepishly. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> .. I always knew there was somthing odd about Chad, he's secretly british Why else would he configure debian with en_GB.UTF-8 as the default locale ?:) because you like correct english and utf8? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <TimStarling> yes, I could enable raw HTML <root-80686> TimStarling: great, thanks <TimStarling> I would first have to be bat-shit insane <TimStarling> but that shouldn't be a problem, let me just take some drugs <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Tiptoety> You know you deal with too many users when you block them in 2008, then come back and give them userrights in 2010. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <^demon> MaxSem: $wgTitle? Really? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> AryehGregor throws rocks at everyone generally, then gets back to work <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> well, I'm confused about GENDER <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> * ^demon can give Bugzilla the lovin' it needs <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <TimStarling> anyone here? don't ask if anyone's around, just ask your question <TimStarling> thanks for that pearl of wisdom larne np <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> I edit-conflicted myself on bugzilla ¬_¬ <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <adam_miller> End of the day ArticleAssessment commit. Progress was made. True story. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <TimStarling> no, I restarted it <TimStarling> properly, with a big kill -9 stick <TimStarling> not by touchy feely stuff <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Q: How many Wikimedians does it take to change a light bulb? ... A: All of them, everything is by consensus. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <TimStarling> tiff_out_of_service? <TimStarling> like a sign on a vending machine? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> TimStarling> I managed to push a change, at least: http://github.com/tstarling/wikimedia-mobile/commit/d65daad76eb8df2b909b65fbac49c8c8b5e7d097 <Ashlee> I'm surprised you didn't just add an OBSOLETE file and import it into SVN. <TimStarling> I probably will if I have to do it a second time <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> note to self: when you remove the power cord before adding your battery, the computer shuts itself down. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> subscribed once, subscribed forever; you can never quit developing for MediaWiki <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Ashlee> Free as in beer. <Reedy> You've been lied to, there's no such thing as free beer where is this mythical free beer of which you speak? <Reedy> It's got strings attached hahaha. see? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <TimStarling> ok problem solved, wikipedians don't deserve action=parse <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <^demon> !sequel is Reedy likes it when you say SQL as Sequel :D <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> I can't believe it's not SQL! <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> ^ SVN Sucks <Reedy> ^ What he just said ^ What he just said <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> "I've always assumed that it was a feature...It might be a bug, sometimes it's hard to tell the difference round here." --DuncanHill <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Reedy> Computers Suck. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <felicity_> hm, so asterisk isn't as hard to use as it appears, it's just badly documented <Reedy> Badly documented open source software? Well I never... <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Huray! This is magic! I love the software. Thank you!!! <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Q: How many programmers does it take to change a light bulb? ... A: Can't be done, it's a hardware problem. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Reedy> 23:07, 6 June 2006 tim marked it deprecated <Reedy> heh <RoanKattouw> That's "only" 4 years and a few months ago <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <RoanKattouw> Wait what <RoanKattouw> Proprietary software that does *not* run on Windows? <RoanKattouw> And it's not even Apple? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <RoanKattouw> It [UploadWizard] doesn't care if there were errors, it just moves on That's a very Soviet behaviour <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Reedy> !domas <mw-bot> I don't know anything about "domas". You might try: !blame !nosql <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Reedy> i can't drink atm mouth glued shutt? <^demon> freakolowsky: If his mouth was glued shut how could he talk to us right now? <^demon> Stupid question. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Raymond_: why the hell you use $wgUser->getSkin while being in a Skin object? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <^demon> IRC cabal already discussed this :p <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Reedy> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23602#c7 * Reedy barfs <Reedy> danese, can you beat your contacts at apple around the head please? <Reedy> It seems they're trying to make me and Roan cry <ArtemisRich> Reedy: She's not actually looking at her computer right now...but I'll make a note of it. (To Danese: please beat Apple) <felicity_> shitty code in an Apple product? that's impossible, everyone knows Apple is infallible and their products are completely perfect <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Reedy> i was trying to think of 3 letters swear words <ChristianAdamski> fuk ? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> I don't have bureaucrat access to my own life! <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> "Remove shitty ass useless fucking ampersands that just make it harder to avoid fucking strict notices" -- aaron, r35219 <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> " Change version number from '1.6alpha' to '1.6devel' so know-it-alls who bitch about how we're running alpha software can shut the fuck up" <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <RoanKattouw> Lesson of the day: don't try to be clever and rename a directory /and/ the files in it in the same commit <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Platonides> or at least they should be documented so we could reproduce it !b 1 | Platonides <mw-bot> Platonides: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1 <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Dinoguy1000> now for more wierdness... has anyone told you your voice is sexy, brion? Dinoguy1000: actually yes, i am a sexy sexy man. what can i say? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <TimStarling> I just had to figure out the contents of your LocalSettings.php using my extra-sensory powers <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Bryan> if this weren't goddamn wikimedia, I would be totally surprised that people are accusing each other about incivility about line breaks <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Bryan> I think complaining is general is good practice because it eventually improves MediaWiki <Reedy> <Bryan> I think complaining is general is good practice because it eventually improves .*? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Reedy> LewisCawte, developers hate documentation. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <TrevorParscal> dude, you have a deep fryer, how bad can you life really be? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Nikerabbit> RoanKattouw: what happened to $wgWhateverVersion? :o <RoanKattouw> We killed it with fire <RoanKattouw> May it rot in hell <^demon> \$wg\w+ sucks! <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> you kids these days, with your yum and apt-get and so forth. in my day, installing stuff was *hard* <^demon> jorm: Yeah, must've sucked having to build all your library dependencies by hand. <^demon> Like, really sucked. <^demon> I pity you <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <RoanKattouw>: I wish we had a X-Squid-Dont-Mess-With-My-Headers-I-Know-What-Im-Doing-Just-Go-Away: true header <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Nikerabbit> putting a cat in a microware result in a broken cat <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Sean_Colombo> RoanKattouw: I <3 you. Just sayin'. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> hmmmm, urwiki needs more lolcats <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <^demon> Long term evil plans :) that'd make a great domain name... longtermevil.com not to be confused with google.com <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> $wgEnableGlobals XD <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Social networking is like email on crack <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> domas about DPL: "abandonware" <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Shirley: creating a wiki is like creating a baby, yes you should have a good reason to create one, but if you don't for whatever reason, you should have an _extra_ good reason for killing one <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Tim Starling: "Like the Christian concept of freedom from sin, we can only strive to fix bug 1, we can never actually fix it." <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [^demon] I miss the old days. When the only way you knew the site was updated was by watching the admin log or wikitech-l <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <TimStarling> when I wrote Preprocessor_DOM, I left a cache-shaped hole in the code <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <^demon> It was protected by the "ssshhh, don't mention it" cipher ;-) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> "a programmer is someone who spends two weeks automating a task that takes 10 minutes" <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Anyone know where in the MediaWiki source code is where it changes newlines to BRs and double-newlines to P HTML tags? <Bryan> midnight426: includes/parser/Parser.php <Bryan> (you don't want to look into that) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> : I don't think anyone has every used "that makes sense" in reference to mediawiki:Sidebar before, ever. :P <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <^demon>: I actually interact with other human beings face to face. <^demon>: I know, I'm weird like that <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> r83994 * tstarling * Committing so I can revert it without being too sad. r83995 * tstarling * Revert r83994, no longer needed <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Psychosis> well the solution is simple, just delete PPFrame_DOM::expand and Parser::braceSubstitution domas> :***** I want your babies  <Psychosis> that won't break anything will it? :) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Anyway, my suggestion would be to recognize that it becomes skull-explodingly impossible to address every imaginable concern in a single poll/RfC/whatever. --Tryptofish <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> "There's no reason C code can't be secure, beautiful and readable. It's just a matter of good habits." --Tim Starling <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Whether you use Git or Subversion, you still need people with brains reading code (Tim) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Daniel_WMDE> using mediawiki as a one-person notepad is like mowing your lawn with a tank <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> * ^demon whistles while mw compiles <^demon|away> thank god <^demon|away> we can finally use the "My code's compiling" excuse! <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <p858snake|l> most places don't need that though <p858snake|l> so its pointless to add it <Happy-melon> that's pretty much the definition of an extension <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <brion_> the road to hell is paved 40 bytes at a time <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> What's the current development/deployment model we use? <Nikerabbit> Commit then flee! <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> There's only one thing worse than magic: hidden magic. (Hannes Landeholm) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> why do jquery.each and jquery.map have different param orders on their callbacks :PPP <Reedy> Sounds something like PHP would do <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> TimStarling: "It should be harder for future developers to screw up. I don't really trust developers to read comments, even when they are written in capitals." <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> is there an API for search? * yuvipanda rtfms <Reedy> yes <Reedy> yuvipanda, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php <Reedy> press ctrl + f <Reedy> type words <Reedy> PROFIT <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> folks, we need to add more slaves to db9/db10. so that when someone runs 6 hour INSERT statement, more slaves get lagged by that much. :) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> "And yes, I know the tests take forever to run. Get yourself a fast machine with an SSD..." --Rasmus Lerdorf <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> hashar: Oh, I saw #wysiwyg in your identity card, and I thought it was your surname <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> hashar: Roan> why arent you with us! you are alone in your room when you could be... hacking with us! <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <^demon> You can join the mile-high club. <^demon> The elite few who've fixed the site from 40k feet. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Man, Does this mean that wikimedia uses animal testing? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> < Reedy> Ryan_Lane, we're nearly at internet pollution saturation point! < Ryan_Lane> delete delete delete! <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> 2011-05-15 : (FIXED) Wikimedia cluster should reverts back to MediaWiki 1.3 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28984 <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> "Also, there is both a Brion and a Bryan. There is no such thing as a Bryon though." (bug 20512) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <^demon> I love my mom, but I don't let her touch the preprocessor. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> If this is bad in any way, please change. If it's not, just let it be and don't demand I make a mathematical proof of the universe making sense :p -Jeroen De Dauw <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <TimStarling> binasher: I like you, why weren't you here two years ago? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <RoanKattouw> This is embarrassing. It's 3am in Sydney and Tim still has the best ideas <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <TimStarling> ehcache > mysql <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Reedy> domas, you might've just killed the site... I know <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> domas: "who are you, and on what did you base your opinion? in the end, everything is a user issue, we shouldn't do anything." <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [jorm] Nobody noticed and it got deployed at least to TranslateWiki, where they started to cry... <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> You have written the patch? And you have regression tested it? Sorry, can't release not enough developer time. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Myra> "Why aren't there more people to help me whenever I demand it? What do I pay you people for???" <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Tim: "Years ago, I tested LOCK IN SHARE MODE on InnoDB. I was unable to find a use for it apart from error generation." <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> we can't read your computer's mind so don't know what to check until we can see some of it ;-) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> man what did i come into this channel to do like 4 hours ago :) // Brion loves helping :D <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> "Like this revert on Facebook" <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <neilk_> hey, I don't know if you've noticed, but we run like a metric assload of wikis. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <RoanKattouw> For $7k, you could get a very nice $2k laptop and spend the rest on a lavish vacation to Australia or something <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <TimStarling> it's hard to be serious when you're talking about time travel <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Brion on image rotation: Poop! Nobody wants sideways coffee, it’ll just spill all over that shiny laptop. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Alright, I just have to assume it's fueled by black magic and sorcery then <^demon> Yeah, there's a lot of that. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Reedy> If in doubt, escape moar <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> neilk: There are a million subtle ways in which this just won't be the web, and it will drive people nuts. You can forget about user scripts. Or your browser extension that does spellcheck in Linear B or whatever. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Nikerabbit> I looked the code for rlike and didn't find where it does this. Can you point me to it? $pattern = preg_replace( '!(\\\\\\\\)*(\\\\)?/!', '$1\/', $pattern ); <Nikerabbit> I thought that was ascii art :) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <^demon|away> git is scarier than puppet. that's sorta like saying "amputation is scarier than eye surgery" <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> I like disruptive progress <RoanKattouw> haha  <RoanKattouw> It's the wiki way <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <^demon>It's 20-f'ing-11 and we don't have conflict detection on UserRights. ^demon facepalms <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Really? Semantic Web Browser? <^demon> Someone still needs to write Semantic Release Notes. <^demon> And Semantic Special:Version <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Essentially, the recaching operation could be doing ~35 times fewer queries, that should help. --Roan <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> "write this cool application that helps us hire people easier! Okay, now write an app that helps us fire those same people!" -- jorm on reedit <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> We must believe in free will. We have no choice. -- Isaac B. Singer <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Aaron|home> 1% of the error types are responsible for 99% of the output <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> root is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> < hasharCodeReview> PHP SUCKS A**!!!! we can't do stuff like :    continue if( $foo === 'bar' ); < TimStarling> or ($C,$_,@\)=(($a=$/[1]*4)*5+1, q||x(0x20).q|\||.chr(32)x(0x10).q$*$.chr(0x20)x(0x10).(pack("CC",124,10)), sub{s/.\|(\s*?)(\S)./\|$1$2/}, sub{s/\|(\s*?).(\S)/ \|$1$2 /}, sub{$2.$1.$3},sub{$tt=(3*$tt+7)%$C}, sub{$1.$3.$2}); <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> you know, sometime people just make mistakes <MaxSem> for some of them, they get executed <MaxSem> it's life <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Your chicken, your egg, your problem. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <OrenBo> what's an nfs server amongst friends? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> it's hard to bump a Bishop from one's schedule varnent: just move them diagonally? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> i am ... baffled <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> < LauraHale> And then I procrastinated by going to a seminar on procrastination. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> after flying back I debugged Barack Obama <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [15:07] binasher: it might have worked if i escaped the $ but ghetto backticks work there for sure <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Morbus> did mediawiki get native zebra striping in 1.17 or 1.18? <TimStarling> zebras are not native to mediawiki <TimStarling> they live in africa <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [18:57] TimStarling: puppet likes user crontabs for some reason [19:01] TimStarling: I fixed this once already, but it looks like it has been very carefully unfixed <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Despite the name, this MWDebug class doesn't handle debug logging -- Tim on r105123 <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <TimStarling> so a function returns null and we see sweden's coat of arms everywhere. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [18:14] TimStarling unfortunately my psychic debugging skills don't extend as far as actually telling you what line of code the issue is in <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <MrZ-man> though knowing MediaWiki, its probably still confusing to use - $wgDontNotUnDisenableInstantCommons <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <^demon> Docs exist solely for developers to go "omg you didn't read the docs!" when people ask common questions. In practice, nobody reads docs before asking questions. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Ryan_Lane> drphil: I would also like to receive help with putting passion back into my relationship with preilly <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> God gave us offset parameters for a reason. -- Tim Starling at r88883#c17334 <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> i heard you wanted to chat about my sticky cookies? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> brion wanders off into svg dreamland… leaving a of breadcrumbs for his return <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Nemo_bis> lol, did you have to flood the channel like that to fix a space <Nikerabbit> Nemo_bis: yes I always give more or less information than requested <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> brion: it is good to see you merging changes can't wait for some CAPSLOCK revert message :-D WHAT COME ON I'M NICE <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Ryan_Lane> I want to stab someone right now <Ryan_Lane> I'm going to take a little bit to find who did this <Ryan_Lane> and I'm going to stab them <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> yo dawn I heard you like YuviPanda so I put some YuviPanda in your YuviPanda <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Reedy> $copyright = $copyright; <Reedy> lol <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> git off my lawn <-see what i did there? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> "What you see here in this issue is one of the edge cases (how often do you use large numbers in PHP?) where it does not work well." -nikic@php.net <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Jens_WMDE> i must say, Reedy looks nothing like I imagined. when i heard that the british devop/infrastructure guy is to come over, I imagined a unix wizard with a Gandalf-style beard :) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [11:03] RoanKattouw When I say "the US" I really mean "the entire world except Europe" <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Damianz> The only time I reboot is when I move house <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Reedy> $oldLang = $wgLang; $wgLang='en'; wfMsg( 'foobar' ); $wgLang=$oldLang; <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Qcoder00> I've found a bug <Nikerabbit> I've found hundreds... I usually report them to bugzilla.wikimedia.org <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [21:36] TimStarling fusion power is just a sci-fi fantasy designed to keep physicists in jobs <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> 08:47 Growing up sucks, since you can no longer freely attentionwhore <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <TimStarling> I mean, if you configure CN to give a banner to 50% of people, you wouldn't be surprised when it gets an impression rate equal to 50% of page views <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> what's a084ddab1f6b0ed412a2e722732db3b1cebfea35 ? <Reedy> A hash "They gave me technically correct, but completely useless answer." <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Reedy> Mobile staff are weird. <Reedy> Can we all join in? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> i'm just wrapping my brion around all of this <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Schroeder> hello i want to pruchase mediawicci but i cant find a place to purchase it on microsoft website <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> hey, i am using the alpha so do i just rename the file: skins/myskin/MySkin.i18n.php to: skins/myskin/MySkin.i20n.php? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> why can't I see AAAA records with: dig @ns0.wikimedia.org en.wikipedia.org? need new glasses? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <MaxSem> thus all the recognition lies on the shoulders of squid <MaxSem> AND SQUIDS DON'T HAVE SHOULDERS! <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> "Ben Loblaugh (blobaugh): FileRepo refactoring, Azure support ... Sorry, that should be 'Ben Lobaugh'. I blame Sumana for the Arrested Development jokes." --Tim Starling <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> You can't win against a unicorn, you just can't. --RobLa <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> i am so in love with git stash. don't tell sarah. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <RoanKattouw> I'm sure terrorists use Microsoft Excel to manage stuff, that doesn't mean Microsoft supports terrorism, right? ;) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <TimStarling> what does +1 mean anyway? <Brooke> Reviewer has a working mouse. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> I also vote for any proposal which increases the number of kittens I get to view on a daily basis. -- Leslie Carr <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> This Wikimedia thing is awesome. They hold business meetings on this archaic communication platform from the 80s! <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <@^demon> Ok, bot's been in timeout long enough. Now, is everyone going to stop treating it like it's a toy? Bots are serious business :) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> ^demon: Holy shit gerrit looks beautiful! That's all I came on irc to say <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> marktraceur> siebrand, high priest of l10n, has decreed it so. Let us feast and be thankful. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> !blame <wm-bot> Whatever happened, it's Domas' fault. For everything else, there's `svn blame`. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <TimStarling> doc comments are docs that's why they are called doc comments <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Please let us know when it is feasible to execute you. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Brooke> I try emoticons sometimes. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> jorm: If you ask nicely, I'm certain we can send you some chicken pox. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> TimStarling> so it doesn't matter how fast your language is, it's always possible to write slow code in it <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> because fuuuuuuuck, CSS and JS on WMF wikis is a big fucking mess (feel free to quote me on that ;-) I know what I'm talking about) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39746 <-- incidentally, "Funky Array Magic" is the new name for my band <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <^demon> I'm finishing off the puppet manifest and rebuilding the whole instance. would it need a component on the receiving instance or is that just about having a git daemon listening?  <Ironholds> it's cute how you guys have this conversation like those are real words ;) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Yes, what the world needs is another horribly confusingly named foundation. After we establish the MediaWiki Foundation, we can start work on the MikiWedia Foundation and the WediaMiki Foundation. ;-) -- MZMMcBride <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> bawolff: Welcome to 2012, how was the trip? marktraceur: scary <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> I love that Reedy doesn't have root I don't trust him anyway <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> omg 1.5 don't trust reedy with shell he will deploy 1.5 everywhere <Reedy> It's the future! <Brooke> 1.5 is bigger than 1.20. Everyone knows that... <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> fix syntax terror. [r80249] <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <[KrusheR]> ashley should i use git or svn repositories? as much as I hate saying this, git; since WMF will not support SVN from mid-2013 onwards and TWN plans to drop i18n & l10n support for SVN extensions in October 2012 (IIRC), I've had to move the things I wrote to git, despite that I'm not a git fan at all <Brooke> ashley: Git happens. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> 'The real WTF is the common perception that unit testing wastes time rather than saving it. A software project that's in trouble "doesn't have time for unit testing". In the same way that person facing a tiger "doesn't have time buy a gun".' - arty, thedailywtf.com <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <MatmaRex> and what are you suggesting i do, gather up random people from #wikipedia-XX and have them come here and shout at you in broken english? :/ <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Coordinating people to write encyclopedias was expensive. Well, until 2001. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Eloquence> Every time I enter a query into Gerrit's search box my mind is prepared for an Application Error overlay. It's like a small electric shock performed by the UI. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> * saper wants to have Ph.D. on differences between 'git checkout' and 'git reset' <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Any advice that includes use of a time machine may be safely disregarded. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Sid-G> This is a sufficiently advanced bug, it is a feature. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <ToAruShiroiNeko> domas are you around by any chance? nope <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Last time I checked, JavaScript didn't have the ability to generate different attributes depending on whether or not its host segfaults. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [Relative URIs] They're not not recommended, it just says their usage is rare. Which is a statement that was true in '05, and which we made false in '11. –RoanKattouw <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> jesus! this is the artcle on Islam! <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> I have just discovered that Roan is a GitHub repo https://github.com/cobrateam/roan specifically, he is a per-model url purging Django app "Roan uses only an optional setting: ROAN_PURGE_URL" <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Silke> I am not a coder so I did not realize I have to ask for a style guide before starting. Now I got a lot of contradictory comments from the "tabs vs. spaces universe", but nobody has actually given me feedback <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <MarkTraceur> Then again, I've seen projects in the past that just used free licenses for convenience, so if you don't actually want people to use free software, you could probably ignore this safely. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <TimStarling> just saying, since I'm a java developer, I have to tell you that PHP is not a real language and you couldn't possibly do anything complex in it <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <TimStarling> "AssumbleUploadChunks" <-- That's not how you spell assemble. <TimStarling> "Re-assable" <-- Neither is that. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> I could test Mongolian myself - I know the Mongolian alphabet and it was easy. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <ori-l> Susan: the problem w/having an abrasive genius as a role model is that it's generally much easier to emulate abrasiveness than genius <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Nikerabbit> I've missed writing docs <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [Wiki read-only for update] emacsen> I have an opinion I want to force on others! How can I do that without the wiki?! <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Can we just agree from this day forward that "put it in your user css" is not an acceptable solution for any problem, ever? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <TimStarling> E3Experiments <TimStarling> let's nuke it from orbit <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <TimStarling> shutting down the datacentre in tampa would obviously be a bigger win for technical spending than removing the watchers count from action=info <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Isarra: "I mean trusted like how we trust, say, YuviPanda to not do anything stupid because he's competent and reliable and stuff." <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> ugh.. i hate Xcode updates what you don't love downloading 2-3 gigs of dev tools over and over again? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Nemo_bis> thought that your "can not reproduce" meant "I see always without parentheses" <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> mediawiki has been written by a biotechnologist, a cinema student, a poker player, a quantic computer doctor and others. None were PHP expert, so you can definitely help. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Ryan_Lane> are there docs for this anywhere? <@^demon> Hahahahaha. You must be new here. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <TimStarling> are you saying you think something is calling putenv("TZ=BST") on our servers? <TimStarling> grepping MW+extensions for putenv shows no such code <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> 18:11 ori-l: relax everyone, i'm here. 18:11 ori-l: i'll proceed to assist tim by making uninformed guesses about what might be the issue <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <TimStarling> springle: Elsie doesn't appear to know what he is talking about <TimStarling> so don't let him distract you <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> I think it's better to have well-managed, versioned cruft than chaotic cruft. -- Tim Starling <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> MaxSem: Seems that after creating a page called Foo my tests are breaking :( <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> (NEW) CirrusSearch: Prefix search for “L’Oréal” and “L Oréal” should match L'Oréal - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58702 <Reedy> It's because they're worth it. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Reedy> In non Soviet America, MaxSem watch you <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> 21:14 Nemo_bis: you are so helpful that sometime I think you are a bot :-D <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> ChanServ destroyed my life –marktraceur, 2014 <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Gloria> Marking it easy will help. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Emufarmers> If the patch fits, you must commit. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> yeah... better be safe than offline :D <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> 22:04 akosiaris: aaah i got it. All your bases are belong to us. Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated :-) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> 22:00 hashar: akosiaris: we will rewrite history before our kingdom fall appart 22:02 akosiaris: and since history is written by the victors that means we will be victorious. And yet our kingdom will fall apart. Weird.... <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> 00:05 sumanah: I am silly Sumana <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> ^d: Such is life. * YuviPanda gives ^d a potato <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> bawolff> ha! 3 hours later I got video to play with TMH using java. Seems like it all came down to a missing space. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> apergos: first thing we do, shoot all the certificate authorities | ori: then we take berlin <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> every time you feel like killing a global, replace it with a camelcase class hierarchy that consists of the config var name followed by 'Context' <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> ^d: If you want to name your extension something and one already exists.... ^d: Just slap v5 on the end. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Nikerabbit> Nemo_bis: that's like making cars out of rubber so nobody would die <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> MaxSem smacks ApiFormatXml | MaxSem: horse poop | MaxSem: HORSE POOP |  MaxSem: !!!HORSE POOP!!! <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <^d> (It's easy, I promise) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Nemo_bis: I enjoy your use of formal logic symbols on bug 47694 <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> "Really, our staff don't do much." --Dan Garry <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> brion> isn't it the worst when your code works but only on other peoples' computers? :D <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <^d> manybubbles: Anytime we improve performance a baby Ori gets its wings :) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Deskana> Customer: "Where is this information stored?" Reedy: "In many places, but yet, also nowhere at the same time." <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Deskana> Customer: "How much will this cost me?" Reedy: "A defined amount of money, in some currency recognised by... someone." <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Reedy> Progress: rand % <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> "Yeah... we really should actually support Hebrew at some point." -- ^demon <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [02:42] I want to be calmer under "omg the sites fucked" [02:43] I wasn't calm, just groggy :D <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Nikerabbit> I know I've asked a good question when I don't get an answer in the talk page <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> "It's the Flow way or the highway." - Maryana Pinchuk <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [Tim Starling] Let's drop support for PHP 5.3 after we switch the WMF servers to 5.4 or later. I think it would be inconvenient to be unable to run our software on our own servers. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> James_F: Because nothing says "wikitext is easy" like "呢格=||||||||}}{{ Subst: 生命棋34". <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> hardikj, I'm bad at naming; the only thing I'm good at is inventing names ending in -oid <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> deploy is easy, except to figure out what to do when things break <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> it's 2014 and our OS uses four octal digits which are used as bit masks to represent permissions <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <RoanKattouw> Nikerabbit: Looking through your code now. So much cleaner than the old code, it's night and day    <Nemo_bis> and he says he doesn't like Virginia Woolf     <Nikerabbit> woof <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> never trust any software that claims to be able to fix itself -- it usually lies [bawolff] <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> (re: discussion of 3-legged unicorns) I don't see what's so hard...you find a unicorn and chop off its leg. sheesh <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> brion> i haven’t done a lot of explicit pair programming, but running ideas past someone else and having a couple people working on something can do wonders yes! <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Getting an organisation into the mindset of mentoring - into the mindset of "yes we need to train new people because they can do awesome things even if they screw up sometimes on the way there". – Lydia <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Nemo_bis> Whenever you find yourself re-implementing the MediaWiki parser, you can be sure you're doing something wrong. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Nikerabbit> I also recommend using --force <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <^d> My browser cache is hot for wiki, is yours? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <^d> I HATE YOU GERRIT <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Premature end of <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Coren> o/~ Hey, I just met you, and this is crazy, but here's my changeset, so +2 maybe. o/~ <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> MaxSem: any other tips for what makes it easier for a Windows dev? <MaxSem> yes. get a Mac <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> bawolff> Gerrit dependencies are like drugs: Just say no kids. It will make you look 20 years older from the stress <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> ^demon|away> Nemo_bis and I removed 31 preferences from Special:Preferences today. What did *you* accomplish? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Thank you very much. Frankly, I didn't think people would much care what I had to say. -- Happy user on mediawiki.org <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> To configure RAID settings, Press Control-Shift-Meta-Alt-&, then hold down the letters F and U while tapping F3 twice <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Nemo_bis> BPositive: a -1 is never reason for not submitting to gerrit <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> prefixing important passwords with / has saved me more than once btw <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Nikerabbit> I know I have been looking into one task for too long when I get "battery low" warning <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <_joe_> I'll merge your patch if you can prove me you're afk :P I think ori's afk for real <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> we should rename icinga.wm.org to christmastree.wm.org <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> K4-713> I love it when you git blame something ridiculous and discover that it was you. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> mutante: PROBLEM - Number of monitoring apps is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: 20.00% of data exceeded the critical threshold [500.0] <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Ori: In a more perfect universe, gzipping something twice would compress it twice as well. In this universe, it inflates the response size and breaks content decoding on Safari. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> On a scale of one to evil, that's super evil. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [18:07:26] I'm sipping PBR and using my 28.8K dialup connection to scan networks with SATAN to find unpatched Solaris 2.4 servers with sendmail vulnerabilities <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> ^d> Adding features is like making a baby. It's easy to say "no" beforehand. But basically impossible to kill after the fact. Moral of the story: don't have kids! <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> robla: We just need to write a security review bot :) oh dear, Chris is away for ONE DAY and you start replacing him <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <RoanKattouw> I briefly broke wikitech by rm -rf 'ing most of VE, but then I put it back <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <+marktraceur> Grawwww <+marktraceur> Someone mixed spaces and tabs <+marktraceur> MARK SMASH <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [Ricordisamoa] "angry emoticon" [MW search] Did you mean: "andré emotions"? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Reedy> Where's the regex for irc rc entries? <RD> .* <Reedy> RD: Don't be greedy <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> I imagine oversight would be a fire <Cookies52> Now, that's a right I'd love to have... <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <+icinga-wm> PROBLEM - puppet last run on rbf1002 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Epic puppet fail <Reedy> gj puppet <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> You can PM me if you want, and I can ignore you if I want. :P <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> dont worry, I wrote tests ;p <yurikR> famous last words... <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> ...he shouldn't just diarrhea update patches all over Gerrit. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <MatmaRex> "enhancement" is the status to use when you wish to show someone that other people don't care about the bug they filed <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> A lack of weirdness on Commons. First time for everything. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> AaronSchulz> legoktm: I remember reading that code years ago...I think it makes sense after an hour <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <greg-g> twentyafterfour: that sring of merges from Reedy up there ^ this is what is known as "Reedy spam" aka "when Reedy goes through the mediawiki-config backlog and MERGES ALL THE THINGS! <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> * Reedy kicks jenkins <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> If this were in Aramaic you'd be reading the other way <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Taking a single step might sound easy, but it's hard enough to know which direction is forward. –Lars Aronsson <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <andre__> I am not a private support channel. IRC means patience.  <Carmela> I thought it means Internet Relay Chat. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> anyone have a copy of "Authoring Better Commit Messages" by Tolstoy and Krinkle <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> TimStarling> we've used crashy code before, like APC when it was new, and PHP 4 <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <TimStarling> if scap took 2 seconds, we would never have made sync-file <TimStarling> well, maybe that's not quite true --- let's just say we would have removed it long ago <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Reedy> Quick, vote on the bug! That makes them get dealt with quicker! <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> PHP is not a RTL language… <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> figured it out, it's leftover cmcmahon_bug.rb where I was trying out your textarea bug :) awesome, people name bug files after me :-) <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> [20:57:31] Looked at it with Reedy some time ago and after he was done crying, he filed this bug <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <YuviPanda> GO DOUSE YOURSELF IN SUGAR AND DIVE INTO AN ANT HILL, JENKINS <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <Ironholds> wait, I'm an IDIOT. <YuviPanda> wow, finally he found out by himself... <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> <TimStarling> anyway, if you plot a curve, I think it is fair to say that preference bloat has not gone away as we have hired more engineers <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> Yuri Astrakhan: and at the end of the day, there is no such thing as a perfect "idiot-proof" way, simply because there are a lot of brilliant idiots. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> git #e707717d - Code wars: the empire strikes tap <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> James_F: Reading the policy would restrict me from being able to bend it to my will <James_F> marktraceur: Spoken like a true Wikimedian. <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> ResMar_: MediaWiki development is like that sometimes. Half the time everything we've done is a great idea, the other half of the time we all want to self-immolate <MaxSem> marktraceur, only self- ? <blockquote style="font-family:serif; font-size: 120%; font-style:italic;"> I wrote so much MW-related code that I put spaces between my parenthesis in a chat conversation ( like this ). -_-