Talk:Phabricator/Plan

Linting
Re "Pre-commit linting checks tailored to MediaWiki QA criteria", linting before uploading is a useful and important feature of Arcanist. However, this is not a blocker for migration, since I think we will need to migrate Jenkins in the interim anyway (and we'll have some kind of server-side linting regardless). Superm401 - Talk 23:36, 5 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Agreed; useful but not blocking feature. Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 01:45, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

fab.wmflabs.org
I don't see anything about the future of fab.wmflabs.org. There are some important discussions happening there, which should ideally be preserved in the eventual production instance. Legoktm (talk) 22:34, 6 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Well, that's a problem, because when we started using  it was on the understanding that it would be scrubbed out after a short while, and was only for testing functionality… Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 23:00, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Bugzilla must be last
It doesn't make any sense to move the largest, longest-serving and most newbie-facing tool first, using innocent users as guinea pigs. It also doesn't make sense to let WMF teams opt out of immediate migration, as this is a WMF operation and the learning cost for ~a handful people is negligible compared to the total cost for thousands. After all, the only thing we really must do without are Mingle and Trello; gerrit has only been used for two years; and RT is a very internal thing with super-technical users who can surely adapt to new software. --Nemo 10:27, 7 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Nonsense. Bugzilla is the least-user-friendly tool we currently have, even worse than gerrit. It is the most desperate for change. Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 16:04, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
 * @Jdforrester (WMF): I believe that user-friendliness is a matter of taste, but nevertheless, it was not brought up as an argument by Nemo above, so let's leave it aside. The fact is that Bugzilla is the most user–facing tool we have; the number of tech-unsavvy users who visit Gerrit (not to mention Mingle or Trello) is negligible to non-existent. I agree that it makes little sense to move Bugzilla bugs to Phabricator first; we should test the thing on ourselves (so to say, more tech-savvy users) first, and only then make non–technical users use it when most annoying bugs are already reported and, hopefully, fixed. It makes more sense to me to start with porting Trello, Mingle, RT and Gerrit, and only then move to Bugzilla. odder (talk) 17:03, 7 May 2014 (UTC)