User talk:Verdy p

Multilingual MediaWiki
Saw your review of Multilingual MediaWiki from last year, thought I'd say hello. I wrote the patch set that introduced the SQL schema and SIL import scripts. Downchuck 02:36, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * That's a severe error ! The SIL data would give you all ISO 639 language codes, without structuring them according to BCP 47 rules. What should have been imported is the IANA database that is the much more complete (and more precise) definition, with also strong stability rules (thanks to the aliases it defines, and the preferences that it documents). Note that this does not mean that ISO 639-3 or -2 language codes are invalid, but they contain lots of synonyms, plus codes that are ambiguous enough that they are of different types (language families, synonyms in ISO 639-2 between alpha2/B and alpha2/T or even with legacy (deprecated) such as "iw" permanently aliased to the preferred "he" in BCP47, and all ISO639-2 or ISO639-3 alpha3 codes aliased to ISO 639-2 alpha2/T codes).
 * I don't know which schema you created. Was that the initial description? Did you include the language name in the same row as the table of languages or in a separate table containing the various translated (Unicode-encoded!) names of the language (these names may be fed separately from CLDR), without breaking the language ids.
 * In my review, I proposed several solutions to warranty the stability (including for specific local Wiki language codes, when they don't match the BCP47 standard, but are still needed to maintain a preference or at least a compatibility of interlanguage links). It's highly probable that you did not understand my review (about language code aliases, languages groups, dialects and so on, and how they are effectively structured by BCP47 and NOT by ISO 639), and this has already caused a major bug for interlanguage links in Burmese no longer working (and most probably new issues for Chinese, because it is a macrolanguage)...
 * Where can I review the implementation? You did not provide any link in your message.
 * Thanks. Verdy p 05:31, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Offtopic poems
Hello verdy_p, I almost always read all you write but your comment on 39068 was completely offtopic for that report in addition to being very long and complex. I appreciate that you care about translation enough to share your opinions and I'm very sad about the frustration some issues cause you, but I suggest you to instead write on wiki when you have complex thoughts to share (which span multiple issues and take a long reasoning). If you're not comfortable writing on Extension talk:Translate because of the "landlords" or whatever, I suggest you to create a new ns0 page for each of those "essays", either here or on Meta-Wiki. --Nemo 08:00, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * How insulting your post can be. This is not a "poem" or an artistic essay, these are perfectly valid observations, with justifications. They are not inventions. Verdy p (talk) 01:09, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: I just discovered your replay here by wandering, this is definitely not my discussion page, I was never notified of your reply here, your post is about edits made on another unrelated site which is definitely NOT the MediaWiki wiki. You did not even look at my user page here that says that this is NOT my talk page. Did you look at the top of this page???? NO. For this reason your post here was completely unnoticed, you did not follow the common usages. Your post here IS an offtopic poem here in this wiki. Verdy p (talk) 01:11, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry about the misunderstanding, I have a high esteem of literature so for me "poem" is a compliment. I didn't suggest artistic essays, technical essays are perfectly fine here. I stand my point that you would be able to write very useful documents on the wiki, because that's your disposition.
 * On being OT, I know this is you and this wiki's scope obviously includes MediaWiki and Bugzilla discussions: you edit actively here and it was the most suitable place where to discuss this despite the redirect above (which I saw); if you don't have email notifications enabled for this talk that's fine, my message was not particularly urgent. --Nemo 11:10, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
 * This is not a mystery, bug SUL accounts and Bugzilla accounts are not linked together. So when say say "I know it's you" it just means that my account here on MEdiaWiki is unified under SUL, it does not indicate you if this is true for all my accounts. In Bugzilla, I just said my jome wiki was FR.WP, not this wiki whch may be run by another user. Your check should have said you that MediaWiki-Wiki was NOT my home wiki.
 * And you're also wrong, I'm extremely rarely active in this MEdiaWiki wiki. That's exactly why I placed the soft redirect to my home wiki (on the user page AND this talk page). I don't want to be notified by lots of wikis, email notifications are disabled on almost all wikis except very few where I'm really active.
 * Well I occasionnaly get to this wiki to read some docs, but rarely to contribute. In that case I will see the Echo notification at top of pages, but I will not receive any email, so I'll be also very late to see the Echo notification when coming back here sometime.
 * The problem is that you posted on Bugzilla that you had alerted me, this was wrong, I was not notified at all before I read your Bugzilla response.
 * The normal policy when relying to someone on Bugzilla (if you don't want to reply on Bugzilla directly) is to contact him on his home wiki, as indicated on his user page or talk page. Otherwise you have lots of chance of never have your message read. Verdy p (talk) 02:05, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, maybe the alerts were 3 instead of 4. Anyway I was certain you would read this message, see above. --Nemo 00:16, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Universal Language Selector/Announcement Feb2014
Enjoy translating ;-) Regards, --Brackenheim (talk) 14:39, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Translate insertables too long.png
Please use shorter and/or less tvars. Thanks, Nemo 13:49, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I maintain them meaningful; in case there are changes that could rewuire translating the target of the link differently. I hate tvars named 1,2,3 that don't help seeing if the target was effectively changed...
 * They are not so long, and I use some prefixs only when they are common and obvious. I've seen frequently some sentences that required later to have links disambiguated because they are related.
 * Less tvars ?? Certainly not. We have not enough tvars with links that have to be reedited in each translation when they need changes in the source (pages moved, merged, translated, or a user changinf his preferred contact page...)