Help talk:Starting a new page

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New page templates
I want a template so every time a new page is created, the same headers are created by default for each new page started. i.e. they create a new page, and on that new page is already header1/header2/header3 with special instructional text under each header as guidelines. Is this possible?


 * Have you seen this?: Manual:Creating pages with preloaded text

Creating Redirects
"Don't forget to setup redirects when you create a page. If you think another person may search for the page you've created by ussesrestesting a different name or spelling, please create the proper redirect(s)."

ok, but how do you create the redirect ??

-- 129.33.1.37  - 15:28, 29 November 2006


 * just read the text and click on Help:Links ;-) -- :Bdk: 01:33, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

The Links help doesn't actually explain redirects very well. Meta does, but like all the meta help pages, it needs to be severely pared down to be ported here (and in fact, it can't just be imported willy-nilly because meta is GFDL and not Public Domain). 64.121.2.59 21:25, 15 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I think this is clearer now (and we have a page Help:Redirects) -- Harry Wood 13:52, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Protect a page
How do I do a 'protect page'? I see no link to any explanation on this. Thanks for your feedback VReijs 10:05, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * If you are a sysop, you should see a "protect" tab on top of every page, if using the Monobook skin. You can also click on "edit this page", and on the address bar of your browser, replace  with  . If you get a permissions error, then you need to get a wiki admin to protect the page for you. You can also have a look at Help:Administration on Meta for more detailed instructions. Titoxd (?!?) 07:35, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

URL problem
You can use the wiki's URL for creating a new page. The URL to an article of the wiki is usually something like this:

* http://www.example.com/index.php/ARTICLE   or    * http://www.example.com/wiki/ARTICLE

this doesn't work?? HOw com I have to do it like this instead:-

http://wiki.example.com/index.php?title=ARTICLE

-- 60.51.120.123 - 00:03, 11 April 2007


 * Yeah so you're seeing '?title=' in the URL. Actually that's the default way a MediaWiki URL looks, until the server administrator does installation steps to beautify the URL, so in a way it might make sense to chage the instructions here to show the '?title=' bit. On the other hand many administrators do often figure out how to beautify their URLs, so for users of these wikis...
 * That's not actually relevant to the instructions being given here anyway. The point is that you can create a new page, by replacing the article title appearing at the end of the URL.
 * -- Harry Wood 14:00, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

I am having similar issues to the above, I am using IIS 6, MediaWiki 1.15.1, PHP 5.1.4 & MySQL 5.0.22
 * If I do http://www.example.com/index.php/ARTICLE the wiki redirects to http://www.example.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
 * If I do http://www.example.com/index.php?title=ARTICLE then I get a 404 Page Not Found error.

Am I correct in expecting a wiki page with edit open or selectable? Any help would be appreciated?


 * Configure IIS. —Emufarmers(T 19:17, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

No Links for Spammers
The page www.my-wiki.org is a existing url which contains a lot of adverts. Please change the URL in the example to something like example.net from RFC 2606.

-- 89.244.74.23 - 17:43, 1 July 2007

how to put a new page in a namespace?
i'm trying to create a simple site:

main page child a  child b   child c

where main page would contain a table of contents for all its child pages, and each child page would contain links back to the parent page. i believe i need to use subpages to accomplish this, and in order to use subpages, i have to turn on namespace subpages. i also, seemingly, would need to put each of the pages into this new namespace. at this point i have no idea how to put a page into a namespace. i also have no idea how to get a table of contents on the main page. after sinking 3 hours into this i feel like an idiot.

-- 68.167.89.124 - 03:25, 22 January 2008


 * Wikis actually work best if you dont try to be too clever with heirarchical navigations structures etc. My advice is, write the main navigation points into the text of the wiki pages itself (rather than trying to auto generate it in any way), and keep your actual page naming entirely flat, especially for key pages linked off the main page. So even though you create the impression of 'Child' pages of the main page, you're actually linking to other pages on the same flat level. Your Main Page wikitext might look like...

Welcome to this wiki about fruit. Please feel free to edit.

Apple - Information about apples

Bannana - In depth analysis on bananas

Orange - A detailed look at oranges


 * Even though 'Apple','Banana' and 'Orange' are not "child" pages in any Content Management System sense of the word, psychologically and navigationally, they effectively are. The Main Page list must be maintained by hand.


 * That answer might seem lame to you, but remember that this allows the wiki community to develop an organic navigational structure, and really in my experience this is the best way to keep wikis simple and effective.


 * If you are wanting to ignore this, and activate sub pages. Set the variable $wgNamespacesWithSubpages e.g.

$wgNamespacesWithSubpages = array(       NS_TALK           => true,        NS_USER           => true,        NS_USER_TALK      => true,        NS_PROJECT_TALK   => true,        NS_IMAGE_TALK     => true,        NS_MEDIAWIKI_TALK => true,        NS_TEMPLATE_TALK  => true,        NS_HELP_TALK      => true,        NS_CATEGORY_TALK  => true );


 * ...to activate it across all namespaces (which is what you would want).


 * Sub pages give your wiki an inbuilt heirarchical mechanism, however I think you will still need to create the Table of Contents by hand (although I guess there's a good chance someone's created an extension to do this)


 * Another inbuilt heirarchical mechanism is 'Categories'. This creates an autmatically maintained list of 'child' pages (well pages which are in the category) but still this doesn't allow you to put that list as a table of contents on the Main Page.


 * -- Harry Wood 14:27, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Characters not allowed in a new page
Is there a list of characters we're not allowed to use when creating a new page?

I tried to create a page called 'Amquel+' and mediawiki dropped the '+'!

Why can't a '+' be used?

--Stuart Halliday 16:07, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

url problem help
hi i installed media wiki here http://poonkavanam.com/islam i can create new pages but when i click a red link i can't create new page plz help me

it working in my old domain " http://ponkavanam.com/islam " MW ver 1.13. but after move data to new domain and upgrade to MW ver 1.15; then it is not working.--Bluemangoa2z 11:19, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Page Not Found error
On the wiki I've installed, whenever I try to change the URL to a new page, it gives me a page not found error. Same with the Privacy Policy, etc links at the bottom of the page. When I create a link and then click on it, it goes to the edit page, but I'd like to be able to get to the edit page by changing the URL in the address bar too. Any ideas? -Dave
 * i have same problem--Bluemangoa2z 08:57, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
 * same problem here.--62.204.125.5 09:13, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * i found the solution. probably your IIS is misconfigured. see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18270#c19 --62.204.125.5 09:23, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I also have this problem, and the bugzilla link above seems to be broken. (Also, I run Apache) Guff 15:21, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Bugzilla link is fine for me. Anyhow, try going to http://yourwiki.com/w/index.php/ArticleName?action=edit instead. Bawolff 17:36, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Automatically create talk pages
In my Google Analytics all talk pages appear as Error 404 Non found, as there is nothing in them. I have already removed the talk tab from the wiki, but GA still sees them. I tried a robot.txt, but that did not work. All these missing talk pages (over 20000) affect my google rating... How can I avoid GA to see the talk pages or how an I automatically create every talk page with some text ? Knorrepoes 18:44, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

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Anti-computer forensics
Anti-computer forensics (sometimes counter forensics) is a general term for a set of techniques used as countermeasures to forensic analysis.

A new default behavior of "Starting a new page using URL"?
It seems that (at least) MW 1.23.3 by default behaves differently than it's described now in the "Using the URL" section of this article. A page with $noarticletext is shown instead of a new blank article page, and this intermediate page contains the red link to create the new page. The original Help pages are protected from (the most) contributors, and it is naturally that only the devs should change them. So, am I missing something or are we missing dev's attention to the Help?

This new (and good, as to me) behavior can create another problem. Some users seeing the required red link could forget to create an actual wiki link to the newly created page, i.e. could miss the fact that the red link was on a temporary intermediate page. I think it should be underlined in this Help section. --Olion17 (talk) 08:39, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Felons and Employment
There is no secret that for many decades, the government has made it difficult for individuals who have been incarcerated to find employment once they have been rehabilitated in prison and released. Although their charges may be decades old, companies and businesses continue to close their doors and turn their noses up to individuals who possess criminal backgrounds. Before being released by prison and/or jail, these individuals are reminded to get back out into society and make something of themselves; to do the right thing and change their lives. With hopes and dreams of finding their place in the working field and finding their acceptance into society again, they're being set up for failure.

This is a society issue important to solve because these individuals deserve the same rights as individuals who don't possess criminal backgrounds to seek and find employment, as long as they have the minimum requirements necessary to gain employment. Due to their criminal background, they're facing humiliation, frustration and doubt within themselves because employers aren't giving them the opportunities to show that they're team leaders and that they have the skills and potential to complete the tasks, despite their prior mishaps. These individuals have families that depend on them but because their resources are limited, they are at a breaking point where they're contemplating on committing the same crimes they've previously committed, that have already landed them in jail/prison to provide for their families; by any means and at any cost. ultimately, these behaviors will force these individuals to violate parole and/or probation which will place them back incarceration.

We've decided to eliminate and/or reduce this social issue because of our personal backgrounds, where we have witness immediate family members and friends being discriminated and mistreated in not only the work place but also in school and society as a whole. These individuals seem to have a permanent labeling as a disgrace by individuals who haven't experience some of the situations as they have as a child and/or adolescents. Also, employers don't take the opportunity to give these individuals a chance nor understand why these individuals committed their crimes in the first place; already prejudging them. Lastly, we've decided to discuss this topic because it's been pushed under the rug for too long and it's time to discuss the potential ways to assist these individuals to overcome these obstacles and barriers to they can live a functional life.