Help talk:Extension:Translate/Page translation example

This way of translating content makes the page output extremely verbose see for example https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Extension:Math&action=edit It's hard to read and to edit and it reduces the entropy significantly. This reverts the effort of the visual editor to keep the source readable. I think in principal there is no need to store all the translate tags and XML comments in the wikitext. Or is the general strategy to use the visual editor exclusively for editing? In that case I'd vote for making the new wikitext identical to docx, so that it can be edited with Microsoft Word if everything else crashes;-) --Physikerwelt (talk) 18:15, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
 * This comment is not related to the tutorial at all, is it? It seems a comment about Translate syntax.
 * Your point seems to be that the Translate marking should be possible in VisualEditor: that's 53974, which is blocked on 48891. --Nemo 18:25, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

"This page contains changes which are not marked for translation."
Hello. In the tutorial, it is written that After saving the page, you will see a link at the top of the page saying "Mark this page for translation" (or "This page contains changes which are not marked for translation." if you are not a translation administrator). Click on that link. I guess that the sentence "Click on that link" refers to the link "Mark this page for translation"? I tried to click on the two links included in the sentence "This page contains changes which are not marked for translation." and none of them lead me to the page shown in the picture. Best, Wikini (talk) 08:08, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
 * As step 1 says, the tutorial assumes you have rights configured. If you need to mark pages for translation, you need the pagetranslation permission (on this wiki, it's the "Translation administrators" group). --Nemo 14:49, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you, I didn't got it. I guess this is included in the word "configured" of the first sentence (namely "This tutorial assumes that the Translate extension is already installed and configured")? My following question is: where to apply to be in the "Translation administrators" group? Best, Wikini (talk) 12:26, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah sorry, the beginning could be clearer; the expected audience is only specified in incoming links but not on the page itself, it seems. Will see if I can fix. For what wiki do you want translationadmin flag? On this wiki it's handled at Project:Requests, on other wikis ask the bureaucrats. --Nemo 14:34, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Wikini (talk) 15:18, 10 June 2015 (UTC)