Help talk:Logging in/Archive 1

request for rewording of login problems sentence
I have been asked by Nemo to review this help page with a view to tagging it for translation. I do not understand the following sentence in the 'login problems' section: If you log in and enabled the cookie feature, a subsequent log in as a different user without the cookie feature enabled will appear as logged out. Who or what will appear as logged out? And should it be "If you log in and enable ..."? Please reword Lloffiwr (talk) 15:49, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I have no idea what it means either. That troubleshooting section was mostly rubbish, as far as I can see; I removed some parts which are surely outdated or belong to a MediaWiki installation guide, you can remove this sentence too.
 * Thank you very much for looking! It also encouraged me to do some copyediting. --Nemo 17:11, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
 * You also asked me a while ago to set this page up for translation. Unfortunately I don't have time at present to learn how to tag for translation so I won't be able to do the tagging. Lloffiwr (talk) 17:27, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
 * No problems, I can do that. :) The most valuable part is what you are already doing. --Nemo 17:50, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Sentence deletion ✅ Lloffiwr (talk) 18:05, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

e-mail address preference
"You don't have to give your email address if you don't want to." This is true for all Wikimedia wikis. But is it true for all wikis? Is this something which can be set when a wiki is started? Lloffiwr (talk) 16:11, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
 * That's certainly the default, so it makes sense for it to be reflected here. I'm not sure what's the specific configuration setting to change it, the only way might be to move editing rights from normal user to the emailconfirmed implicit user group.
 * In general, I agree that this page should contain little or no Wikimedia-specific information. --Nemo 16:54, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
 * There are other things on this page which may only apply to Wikimedia. Do you know of a coder who can specifically identify Wikimedia-specific information? We could then reword to "may" instead of "will" or just add a sentence about the page giving information on the MediaWiki default configuration - user may need to check with the wiki administrator. Lloffiwr (talk) 17:20, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not a coder but I can do that fairly easily. ;) --Nemo 17:50, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Families
I'd remove the whole "Some projects using MediaWiki software form a family [...]" paragraph, it doesn't look useful. --Nemo 16:59, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Could shift it to the "unified login" section. Or delete totally if you prefer. Lloffiwr (talk) 17:06, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, I moved it there and reduced it considerably. It makes little sense to duplicate here information about specific farms. It was very funny to read that Wikia has more than 1000 wikis, they have about 340 thousands now. :) --Nemo 17:15, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

✅ Lloffiwr (talk) 17:31, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

proposed addition to logging out section
Is this proposed addition to the "logging out" section correct? Lloffiwr (talk) 17:02, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Some wikis log users out automatically after a certain time with no activity. You may then receive a warning message that you are logged out, if you try to save an edit; but only if the wiki was customised to provide a warning message.
 * Only partially. It's not really about lack of activity, just how long the cookie lasts. The warning message exists by default at MediaWiki:anoneditwarning. --Nemo 17:49, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

✅ marked by Lloffiwr (talk) 18:04, 10 September 2013 (UTC)