MediaWiki Stakeholders' Group/Meetings/2014-12-05 Telco

Purpose

 * previous meeting
 * 5th Telco, 7. November 2014

Time and Place
5 December, 2014 at 3 PM UTC


 * Dial in
 * Google Hangout


 * Whiteboard
 * http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Wiki-Co-op


 * Attendees (for real)
 * Attendees

Agenda

 * 1) Welcome - Markus
 * 2) MediaWiki Stakeholders Group Recognized!
 * 3) Release 1.24.0
 * 4) Upcoming release: Want anything special for that release?
 * 5) Bug reports and users' experiences - Mark
 * 6) RFC process
 * 7) How many people use composer as a basis?
 * 8) Extension management
 * 9) Opt-in "Registration" for update notification.
 * 10) State of projects
 * 11) Feature wishlist (Google Code-in students may work on this, too.)
 * 12) Roadmap
 * 13) Publicizing 1.24
 * 14) Future conferences for a track
 * 15) Wikimania 2015
 * 16) Mexico City, July 15-19
 * 17) Location and accommodation information are available at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2015_bids/Mexico_City
 * 18) European Hackathon 2015
 * 19) Lyon, France, May 23-25
 * 20) Location and accommodation information are available at: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lyon_Hackathon_2015
 * 21) US Hackathon Developer Summit 2015 (invitation only)
 * 22) San Francisco, California, USA, January 26 -27
 * 23) To register: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Developer_Summit_2015
 * 24) SMWCon Spring 2015, TBD
 * 25) SMWCon Fall 2015, TBD
 * 26) Other
 * 27) Closing - Mark

Attendees

 * Markus
 * Alexis (etherpad)
 * Mark
 * Cindy
 * Karsten
 * Natasha
 * Chris
 * Michael

MediaWiki Stakeholders Group Recognized!

 * Markus shows status
 * Yay! Thank you all for your involvement

Release 1.24.0

 * Markus points out that this is the place to raise concerns regarding any problems
 * Meetings are tied to releases
 * What can we do better?
 * Any findings? Plans?
 * Cindy: there are plans for an update. Were several point releases behind. Commited to keep up with the point releases.
 * Mark: once there's an official release, early adopter stuff is taken care of
 * Karsten: Not updated yet. Usually uses the latest legacy. Running on 1.23.7. Users have custom skins. They want to run on LTS version. Tests on a test instance before, manually. Release scheme is a good thing.
 * Natasha: did upgrade. Has a list of things to do. Depends on Edlira.  Is confused by Composer. Some extensions break.
 * https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g7MYYN6-AWRKp4AxdADUHx7jdsQe-XCl5V3fDEqfepM/edit
 * Chris: running wmf-branch in production. No special issues found. Needed modern builds that work with mobile frontend and such, MultiMediaViewer, visualEditor

Bug reports and users' experiences

 * Mark watched reports about people having trouble with upgrading

Report on MW users meeting in Houston

 * People seemed to like MW more than SP (SharePoint Wiki)
 * Presentation my NASA and WikiEm.org an
 * SP is pushing against MW. It would be good to come up with pros and cons
 * There's some experience with 2003 SP
 * Chris: can work on a comparison
 * Cindy: Strength is fine graned access control
 * Markus: SP is ok for small collaboration, but MW is much better for larger.

RFC process

 * We take part in the RfC discussion to bring te stakeholders' view into the discussion

How many people use composer as a basis?

 * Cindy: selective enabling / disabling of a feature on a wiki farm (not supported)
 * Karsten +1
 * Composer works with homogenous wikis, but not otherwise.
 * Makes upgrading fast, but can be problematic if one extension isn't upgraded. if the dependency wasnt updated properly
 * Mark: we need a GUI

Extension management

 * What are the requirements?
 * Come up with requirements -- Markus will be asking for feedback on mailing list.
 * Mark will talk to Quim and Rachel about Cindy going to SF

Opt-in "Registration" for update notification.

 * There will be a special page: CheckMyVersion

Feature wishlist

 * Google Code-in students are helping by looking over mailing list.
 * Alexis: currently one student has claimed the task of looking over the month of September 2014

Roadmap

 * RFCs substitute for roadmap right now.

Publicizing for MediaWiki

 * Richard wrote some blog post under CC license free to use: MediaWiki - Software moving towards the future
 * Part 1: Skinning, Mobile, Dialogues: http://blog.blue-spice.org/2014/12/01/mediawiki-software-moving-towards-the-future-part-1-of-3-skinning-mobile-dialogues/
 * Part 2: Visual Editor and simultaneous editing: http://blog.blue-spice.org/2014/12/02/mediawiki-software-moving-towards-the-future-part-2-of-3-visual-editor-and-simultaneous-editing-of-texts/
 * Part 3: Communication, Wikidata, Translation: http://blog.blue-spice.org/2014/12/03/mediawiki-software-moving-towards-the-future-part-3-of-3-communication-wikidata-translation/
 * A German version is available on the Hallo Welt blog.

Future conferences for a track

 * Wikimania 2015


 * Mexico City, July 15-19


 * Location and accommodation information are available at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2015_bids/Mexico_City


 * European Hackathon 2015


 * Lyon, France, May 23-25


 * Location and accommodation information are available at: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lyon_Hackathon_2015


 * US Hackathon Developer Summit 2015 (invitation only)


 * San Francisco, California, USA, January 26 -27


 * To register: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Developer_Summit_2015


 * SMWCon Spring 2015, TBD


 * SMWCon Fall 2015, TBD


 * We need to find ways of funding travel to these conferences
 * Could be a test case for our own funding
 * Funding raised for track could be used to support travel.