Talk:LiquidThreads 3.0/archive 1

See also Extension talk:LiquidThreads.

Keep refactoring possible

 * ''See also Tracking bug, Thread:Talk:LiquidThreads/Redesign/Summaries, Thread:Talk:LiquidThreads/Redesign/Discussion status, "No way to multi-home a thread" [early discussion got lost somewhere, probably http://liquidthreads.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Feedback ], LackOfReworking, w:en:Wikipedia:Refactoring talk pages

Make a page of threads totally editable
Major feature request: make LT totally editable. That is, allow any user to edit all aspects of parts of a talkpage - node indentation (what it replies to), merging of two nodes, merging of two threads, &c.

These have obvious everyday uses:
 * editing indentation: a comment is made "in reply to" one node, but should really be replying to something one level up; or two comment threads are merge in a refactoring
 * editing thread: three threads are about the same topic, in a confusing way. The whole thread-collection needs to be refactored under a parent level-1 thread.

Without this, LT and the current mechanism for summaries has limited use for large wikis -- refactoring is important for larger discussions. Sj 19:33, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I strongly agree. This is one aspect of liquidthreads being splitted on so many pages with weird relationships instead of a single page you can easily edit seeing or changing everything. Nemo 20:51, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Make all comments editable by everyone

 * ''See also Thread:Extension talk:LiquidThreads/Redesign/Is it really necessary to allow users to edit each other's posts?

Comments should be editable by everyone - or at least by all logged-in users.

Perhaps this can be its own separate right, one that individual mediawiki installations can set for themselves -- but for WMF wikis it should be available to all contributors.

It is frequent that one person needs to tweak someone else's comment; this should not be any more difficult than it is in the current LQT. Sj 20:17, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Linear threads
I realize that the "threaded" style, where replies are indented, is something of an established tradition on wikis now, but it seems to me that is due to the lack of any sort of graphical separation between posts more than a desire for the threaded style itself. Looking over some recent comments on en.wikipedia with reactions to LiquidThreads it seems to me that one of the main criticisms is that we're forced to view threads using the "threaded" style. On phpBB and vBulletin there's an option to view threads in "linear" or "flat" mode, so that they're not indented. I think that using that sort of display mode as an option, or even as the default, would go a long way in curtaining criticism of LiquidThreads. Regards, — V = IR (Talk&thinsp;&bull;&thinsp;Contribs) 15:32, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree that it is good idea to have a linear mode as an option, but I'm not sure whether it should be the default or not. Helder 17:08, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Version 3 includes a mockup of a flat mode version. --Jorm (WMF) 18:42, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Vote on topics
This is a feature suggestion, add a very simple voting ability (e.g., "like", although it could be open-ended) to a given topic then spit out the tally of positive votes put on that topic. Thorncrag   19:27, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I think a poll feature would likely work best as an additional extension upon the extension.--Jorm (WMF) 18:43, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Upgrade from LiquidThreads 2
Will users of LiquidThreads 2 be able to upgrade to LiquidThreads 3 without losing all of their threads? I think this is very important to current users of LiquidThreads.--Xevo 21:01, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * This is currently the plan, yes.--Jorm (WMF) 18:39, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Recent Discussions tag
Another feature idea, a tag that would pull recent discussions onto a page would be really nifty (e.g. .    Thorncrag    20:16, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * In the mockups, something like this exists, though I'm not certain it's clear. At any rate, the threads should be auto-sorted so that the most recently active threads bubble to the top.--Jorm (WMF) 18:40, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I think he is refering to the possibility of add the recent threads of one page to a section of another page (something similar to wikibooks:Project:Discussion index). Helder 02:11, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Right, it would probably be mostly useful for community/portal or project pages where you could perhaps pull recent discussions onto the portal page as a feature "Recent Discussions" - it could be just the topic subject, or perhaps pull the thread summary if there was one. It could be a good way to draw attention to hot topics for users who may not actually frequent the talk pages.     Thorncrag    18:23, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Cancelled?
According to the last status update, this project was put on hold in favour of developing the "mood bar" in July/August (and this has been reiterated in several monthly engineering reports), also it is not listed in the categories "WMF Projects 2011q2" or "q3". In the August Engineering report it was not mentioned at all.

Does this mean that LiquidThreads has been indefinitely shelved? Wittylama 15:09, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * No, it has not been canceled. It is (and has been) back-burnered, but never canceled.  The "Full Monty" package for LQT is a lot of work, and one of the things we're trying to do is slowly ramp up some of the features of it in other areas (WikiLove is an example of this - adding ways to express gratitude).   --Jorm (WMF) 18:38, 17 September 2011 (UTC)