Thread:Project:Current issues/User:MZMcBride and sysopping of User:Fram/reply (44)

Firstly I want to make this straight. MediaWiki is not a cited Encyclopedia like Wikipedia, it is a documentation wiki for the MediaWiki software and other documentation relevant to it.

Now first, the edit in question. Status updates on projects are essentially messages/comments from the team, they're essentially 3/4 the same as a talkpage message by a user (the 1/4 difference being you might fix some spelling and grammar in a status update you'd usually leave alone in a talkpage comment). They are someone else's words, you do not edit those words to say something else. The original edit was unwarranted. And quite frankly, I can't believe adding something like "There was no time for basic testing, but we'll let the different Wikipedia language versions do that for us." would fly even on en.wp.

On the SRP, I'd like a citation for the claim "For perspective, bureaucrats can grant sysop rights ad-hoc on this wiki, without a RfA; one chose to do so, which is how this happened.". The Requests page talks about there being no formal policy on what prerequisites are required of an admin. But there is an informal RfA process in use right there. And I don't see anything to suggest that a non-dev can have a single 'crat +sysop them and expect it to stick around. Especially not when 2 sysops and 2 'crats object to the +sysop.

For that matter the "One thing to keep in mind is that unlike most Wikimedia sites, this site is controlled by the MediaWiki developers, not its own community" quoted in this topic has been removed from it's context, "Being a developer (someone with commit access who uses it to maintain code that runs on Wikimedia sites) automatically entitles you to at least administrator status, and a long-time developer won't find it hard to become a bureaucrat. If you're not a developer, [...]" on Project:Requests.

Fram is not a MW developer. I see no rationale for him being able to bypass the RfA process. And objections from existing 'crats and sysops sound like a good enough rationale for a -sysop to remove the granted +sysop.