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Broken Abuse Filter
Hi guys,

can you please have a look at the AbuseFilter and fix the wrong blocks, which it is making? E.g. see the block of my IP 88.130... from today (December 2nd), 13:30 o'clock.

I was answering a support request on the Support Desk and in the answer I wanted to include a link to an older Support Topic. The topic name is one of these random numbers. As soon as I try to point to a topic, it incorrectly blocks me, telling me, I would be a spam bot doing a mass attack.

It would be great, if this broken spam filter could be fixed, so that it at least properly allows mediawiki.org links again.

Cheers!

Jörg --88.130.119.246 22:54, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Internal links inside mediawiki.org also are not working correctly. This misconfiguration currently prevents me from helping users at the Support Desk. --88.130.73.233 15:45, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Hello! Thanks for mentioning the problem here, and sorry for any inconvenience :( I changed the filter to not block users anymore and the filter rules should be more specific when identifying the real spam and let you post links :) Please give me some feedback, if you still have problems :) Best! --Florianschmidtwelzow (talk) 16:45, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi Florian,
 * it is better now, but the problem is not yet solved.
 * Links to Flow topics and internal links with twice two square brackets seem to be working correctly now.
 * What is not working yet, are external links to mediawiki.org. E.g. a link to api.php or a link to the history function with an old revision or so. --88.130.73.233 19:00, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

A feedback, surprisingly "identified as SPAM", took me here
In response to a request for feedback, on the contents translation tool, in https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tema:T2vwbskdnhgwkwek (the catalan Wikipedia) I just reported a problem (Subject "Tables translation"... or so) but, when sending it, I got a warning message saying that this had been identified as spam and suggesting that, if it wasn't, I should contact an administrator. The "user list" pages the message link took me to do recomend comming here for admin actions. My feedback provided links to original, translated and reconstructud pages, which would take me some effort to rebuild. Can someone do somethig for me: recover my contribution and take it to the proper destination? Thanks, --FranSisPac (talk) 17:24, 28 April 2016 (UTC) (also in ca:Usuari_Discussió:FranSisPac)

Remove Flow of my talk page
Hello, it is that Flow is active in my talk page (no it did) and I do not want that system, can help me to remove it. Thank you. -- Alvaro Molina  (Let's Talk ) 21:42, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
 * You should be able to turn it off at Special:Preferences. Please let us know at Talk:Flow how you would improve the feature, or what you had problems with. Thanks! Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 04:47, 11 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi, I want the same as Alvaro Molina; I've done as you said but my talk page is still a Flow page.--Syum90 (talk) 16:05, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Fixed for you. As above, please give us any feedback at Talk:Flow that you can. Thanks. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 17:02, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I deleted AlvaroMolina's talk page because it was still under Flow, and was showing under speedy deletion. It seems I also can't disable Flow by normal means for myself (the feature is added on all uncreated anon. talk pages, among other areas). Tropicalkitty (talk) 19:47, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Now fixed that, too. (Using special:ChangeContentModel, as opposed to special:EnableFlow (this auto-archives existing content), both of which are available to admins on this wiki). Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 17:47, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know about that. Tropicalkitty (talk) 17:55, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Thank you very much :-) I will provide my reasons at Talk:Flow as you asked.--Syum90 (talk) 06:42, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for the help, my talk page returned to normal. Regards. -- Alvaro Molina (Let's Talk ) 18:27, 12 April 2016 (UTC)


 * , I have the same problem, I need User talk:Mlpearc Phone changed via Special:ChangeContentModel from Page content model-flow-board to Page content model-wikitext, not sure how to requests this, hoping this can be resolved here. Thanx,  Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 14:57, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I did it for you. --wargo (talk) 15:08, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. Cheers, Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 15:11, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

So I've got User talk:MarcoAurelio/Archive 1 which is an old flow board. I changed its content model to wikitext, deleted it and... suprise! The flow board re-appeared. Can that be fixed? I repeated the process w/o deleting this time. Regards, MarcoAurelio (talk) 19:01, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Redlink talkpages are flow by default. If you want to keep that page as a wikitext page, the easiest solution is to either add some content (e.g. archive) or redirect it back to your existing talkpage. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 19:09, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Ah, so everything in User_talk: is now flow by default, even subpages? In that case I'll leave the page as it is now. Regards, MarcoAurelio (talk) 19:12, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Delete Talk:Technical Collaboration Guideline/Vision
Please delete Talk:Technical Collaboration Guideline/Vision to make space for move from the actual talk page, which was moved and made orphan without reason (the new talk page is empty). Users expect to be able to find and follow comments to a page but outside the page itself in the standard ways (clicking the "Talk" tab, watchlisting the subject page) but the moving user declined to consider solutions for that problem. Nemo 08:30, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I actually proposed a solution allowing to keep the default discussion pages based on Flow and the extra wikitext-based discussion pages created manually by a user, having both of them linked to each other and to their content page. I explained my reasoning to Nemo.--Qgil-WMF (talk) 08:51, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * ❌; I don't see a reason to fork the conversation away from the standard place. Also, please don't edit war, let alone to subvert this wiki's decision to use Flow by default on talk pages. Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 14:55, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Consider importing
Greetings, folks on enwiki have discussed whether en:Pygments is content more suitable for this project than the English Wikipedia. This is a question for this page I believe - if the answer is yes, can someone please import the contents from en:Pygments here? Once that is done - or if the answer is "no" - en:Pygments should be edited and  added to it. Thanks! Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 10:12, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * ❌ Extension:SyntaxHighlight already says all we need, for the rest there is http://pygments.org/ . Nemo 12:03, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * And I have thus deleted the enwiki article. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 12:37, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Another broken Abusefilter
Hello, I just report it : an user was catch by Special:AbuseFilter/43 Flow spam filter: low number of stopwords on topic Topic:Tbp3t0o9tjao4s4x. Thanks --Framawiki (talk) 08:05, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Just for info: The filter doesn't really consider other languages than English. This means, that languages other than english may trigger the filter for no valid reason :/ --Florianschmidtwelzow (talk) 05:24, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
 * From the abusefilter log I don't see many benefits from this filter: it seems to mostly catch non-English external links spam which should be caught for its URLs instead. Can we disable the warning? Nemo 09:51, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ per above. --Nemo 17:46, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

New Abusefilter
Can someone please set up an abusefilter that prohibits any form of garage door repair in the user space? This is ridiculous. Mainframe98 (talk) 06:36, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ wargo (talk) 15:37, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Broken default gadget breaking a lot of site functionality
In non-debug mode I get this JavaScript error which breaks at least search box autocompletion, editing toolbar and hovercards. The error does not appear in debug mode. This is related to a gadget that is enabled for everyone. Nikerabbit (talk) 08:37, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

wmf17:11Uncaught Error: Unknown dependency: ext.gadget.enwp-boxes(…)sortDependencies @ load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=0y4qflu:158sortDependencies @ load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=0y4qflu:159(anonymous function) @ load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=0y4qflu:159each @ load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=0y4qflu:5resolve @ load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=0y4qflu:159load @ load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=0y4qflu:170(anonymous function) @ wmf17:11startUp @ load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=startup&only=scripts&skin=vector:66script.onload.script.onreadystatechange @ load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=startup&only=scripts&skin=vector:66


 * I can reproduce, after switching to Vector. Nemo 08:41, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Well I fixed it on MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition, but the cache hasn't updated yet...? Legoktm (talk) 08:41, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

New wiki
I need help finding links to create my own wiki. Can somebody help me? --Brynda1231 (talk) 02:17, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * See Hosting. &mdash; Mainframe98 talk 09:26, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Flowbot flag for MediaWiki message delivery
The mass message bot has been flooding Recent changes lately whenever messages are being sent to Flow talk pages, can a bureaucrat please hand the flowbot flag to this bot so that this doesn't occur again? The bot already has the bot flag. &mdash; Mainframe98 talk 09:26, 24 February 2017 (UTC)"Apparently  doesn't actually do what it sounds like it does; there's a task, T119630, to fix the RC-flooding behaviour, which is unfortunately apparently not easy. I've asked the team to take a look. Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 02:50, 25 February 2017 (UTC)"
 * Well that's disappointing. Thanks for the link, I've subscribed to the phabricator task. &mdash; Mainframe98 talk 11:23, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Non-MW related manual talk pages
On manual talk pages which are not directly related to mediawiki, the MediaWiki:Editnotice-101 message which appear while editing should be replaced with another message(s). There are many Pywikibot manual talk pages; try to edit one of them, and you will see how irrelevant are the links in that message. --XXN (talk) 09:19, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Testing search in deleted pages archive
Hello,

During Wikimedia Hackathon 2016, the Discovery team worked on one of the items on the 2015 community wishlist, namely enabling searching the archive of deleted pages. Now we are ready to deploy this capability in production, and are asking admins of select wikis to test-drive this feature. After accommodating any feedback from this trial, we plan to deploy it on all wikis and enable it by default.

To test it on your wiki, please go to the  page, and add   to the URL, like this: https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AUndelete&fuzzy=1. Then search for the pages you're interested in. The results should show more results than before, due to using ElasticSearch indexing (via the CirrusSearch extension). If you find anything that is not right with the results, or that you want to be changed, please comment.

Please note that since Special:Undelete is an admin-only feature, this search capability is also only accessible to admins. CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 19:02, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Request wikibreak enforcement
Hi. I request to block my account for wikibreak. Block time is three years. Please do not set autoblock. Thank you. -- mirinano ( talk ) 15:36, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅--Infinite0694 (talk) 17:40, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Botflag for User:Translation Notification Bot
This bot has the potential to add a bunch of messages to Special:RecentChanges when notifying users about translations. It in fact already has, when MediaWiki 1.29 was released. As it is part of the Translate extension and can be triggered by Translation Administrators by checking a box after marking a page for translation wouldn't it be better to have this bot flagged? &mdash; Mainframe98 talk 14:02, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Good point. ✅ Legoktm (talk) 16:24, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Redirect override tool not working
As seen from my account logs, I've been moving the pages for early MediaWiki versions into their own pages rather than subpages of the Release notes pages. For the first two moves, MediaWiki 1.1 and MediaWiki 1.2, I was able to successfully delete the existing redirect and move the page to the new name with ease. However, for some reason, on MediaWiki 1.3 and up, I can no longer do this. Attempting to move Release notes/1.3 to MediaWiki 1.3 and delete the existing redirect at MediaWiki 1.3 results in an error saying that I do not have permission to do such. I've copy-pasted MediaWiki 1.3 and I need an admin to histmerge, but before copy-pasting all the other versions from 1.4 and up, I was wondering if someone would know what the problem here is. Thanks. Nestor Lozano (talk) 14:17, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * The moves are incorrect: Release notes are still published under that title, see for instance Release notes/1.29 vs. MediaWiki 1.29. Please revert. --Nemo 16:44, 14 August 2017 (UTC)