User:Sharihareswara (WMF)/archivedectmeetings July2013

monthly report
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_report/2013/June Sunday is the deadline

VE
It's been great to have so many community liaisons, product managers, etc. working on communicating with the community about this. This kind of work used to fall more on ECT's shoulders, and it's nice to have more people to do that so we can focus on nurturing the volunteer technical community and on communicating with the community about the changes that can't get VE/Flow-level attention from the community liaisons.

prep for quarterly review
Sumana working on this today. Quarterly review is July 9th. Looking at past quarterly review, reviewing goals from last quarter, success/failure and lessons learned, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/2013-14_Goals#Wikimedia_Technical_Community note re yearly goals: https://github.com/Ironholds/MetaAnalysis/tree/master/GadgetUsage helps us with *what gadgets are installed/used on what wikis* including what the most popular gadgets are. Also need: in goals (quarterly and/or yearly) - should perhaps include improvements to website (mediawiki.org) -- tie in budget for improving docs/pages/developer engagement
 * who maintains them?
 * when were they last updated?
 * bot usage -- what bots are making the most edits, or the edits that make the biggest difference? who owns those bots and what wikis are they active on?

Metrics
Just a new URL here: http://korma.wmflabs.org - you'll hear more in the following weeks. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Community_metrics

QA activity from last week
logistics went well some people in the audience were writing code along with presenters, left with running code on their laptops Quim wants to contact attendees one-on-one, learn their names, make sure they repeat, keep them on board. 1/2 attrition is still fine - that leaves us with a group of 20 with different levels of skill. ~40 people showed up at office, including ~5 employees European event - this week? Filipin wants to organize one in a European time zone. July - mid-late July Quim in Europe so easier to organize.

Conferences, etc.
Thursday: day off for US people (Fourth of July/Independence Day) Other conference deadlines:
 * Guillaume possibly a couple days off in August/September; will provide tentative dates as soon as they're known
 * Andre:
 * July Fri05: Public holiday in CZ
 * July Wed31-August Mon05: GNOME GUADEC (Brno/CZ)
 * August Wed07-August Mon12: Wikimania (Hongkong/PRC)
 * October Fri04-Sun06: Mozilla Summit 2013
 * Sumana
 * Monday next week: traveling
 * July 16th: all-day meeting
 * Quim flying to Germany this weekend, will work from there until Wikimania, except
 * Quim on holidays July 24-31. Then flying to Hong Kong on Aug 2.
 * Željko:
 * July: some unavailability
 * August 16-18, eurucamp, Berlin, Germany (maybe, waiting for reply if my workshop is accepted)
 * September 6-7, BalCCon, Novi Sad, Serbia (maybe, waiting for reply if my talk is accepted)
 * Chris:
 * Aug 4-10 Agile2013 - "radically open software testing"
 * LCA : July 6th http://linux.conf.au/media/news/1
 * FOSDEM - with Siebrand, Quim is chasing FOSDEM people :) - as soon as there is a call for devrooms/booths Quim will start discussion

ULS & ml.wiki
SUL release: This bug report is instructive about how SUL will behave. Note the two redirects upon logging in to an SUL wiki. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/72365/6/features/uls_ime.feature https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50334 working with Amir on a browser test for Malayam ULS: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/72365/6/features/uls_ime.feature. The behavior of CTRL-M In this situation is not yet clear.

Today's quarterly review
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Volunteer_coordination_and_outreach/ECT_July_2013_quarterly_review lessons learned - talk about code review backlog - fixed nuance re "lack of awareness" - fixed nuance re pm volunteers - fixed quim to give women OPW/GSoC stats remove [1] - fixed Goals: 10+ volunteers writing automated tests? now 6: fixed add to "next" that Guillaume on VE for 1/3 of this quarter - fixed demote community metrics thing - fixed Open questions if we have time:
 * metrics, specific focus areas to widen bottlenecks, figuring out how to do maintainership right - will address
 * are there changes we need to be making to wikitech.wikimedia.org/mediawiki? What are your pain points?
 * coding and review bottlenecks we want to fix:

are JavaScript and security the top priorities?

Tech talks & helping produce & curate videos/tutorials - ok approach?

What about performance and Puppetization?

Misc

 * No need to chat, but for http://korma.wmflabs.org/ Quim needs your input on KEY metrics, things that help measuring our performance or making decisions e.g. "time to resolve bugs", "time to resolve gerrit changesets", etc.
 * +1 to time to resolve gerrit changesets
 * also, # of open changesets (not opened)
 * break down by branch? eg 1.21 vs 1.22 dev cycles comparison
 * Also Quim wants to say Thank You for the Tech News. It's been several weeks now and the quality / interest stands. Well done!
 * Please share this with user:odder, who's been doing an awesome job on tech news, sometimes doing all the work
 * I will. Quim.

Upcoming changes/dates
Other conference deadlines:
 * Guillaume possibly a couple days off in August/September; will provide tentative dates as soon as they're known
 * Andre:
 * July Wed31-August Mon05: GNOME GUADEC (Brno/CZ)
 * August Wed07-August Mon12: Wikimania (Hongkong/PRC)
 * October Fri04-Sun06: Mozilla Summit 2013
 * Sumana
 * July 16th: all-day meeting
 * Quim flying to Germany this weekend, will work from there until Wikimania, except
 * Quim on holidays July 24-31. Then flying to Hong Kong on Aug 2.
 * Željko:
 * July: some unavailability
 * August 16-18, eurucamp, Berlin, Germany (maybe, waiting for reply if my workshop is accepted, not likely)
 * September 6-7, BalCCon, Novi Sad, Serbia (talk accepted!)
 * November 7, SQA Days-14, Lviv, Ukraine
 * Chris:
 * Aug 4-10 Agile2013 - "radically open software testing"
 * LCA : July 20th http://linux.conf.au/media/news/1
 * FOSDEM - with Siebrand, Quim is chasing FOSDEM people :) - as soon as there is a call for devrooms/booths Quim will start discussion

Followup from quarterly review
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Volunteer_coordination_and_outreach/ECT_July_2013_quarterly_review http://etherpad.wmflabs.org/pad/p/ECT_July_2013_quarterly_review Communications of feature teams out to community - ones that don't have liaisons may not do as much Action item: Ken and Andre to continue conversation, have a meeting/chat in August -- Andre to push on this re BZ/rt Action item: Sumana to think about ECT communications for activities that don't have dedicated liaisons & talk with eng directors about, e.g., Analytics Action item: Sumana to consolidate & prioritize upstreams lists
 * felt a little rushed - think about 75 or 90 minutes in future
 * Greg maybe should be in more quarterly reviews generally
 * Try to get Alolita
 * less so Antoine

Wikimania prep
https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Transparency_and_collaboration_in_Wikimedia_engineering Andre, Quim, & Sumana

"internal" (Wikimedia) "external" (other organizations) (Sumana)
 * Day-to-day: Andre/Quim
 * Coordination of Wikitech-ambassadors, Weekly tech news, Signpost and other initiatives encouraging information and collaboration beteen Wikimedia tech contributors and editors. - Quim
 * Bug reporting - Andre
 * Long-term:
 * Helping you shape developers' priorities, with bug triage and product development opportunities. - Sumana
 * Monthly engineering report - Sumana
 * Work on news and activities with an impact in mainstream tech media, thus  raising the awareness among potential contributors at large.
 * Collaboration with established organizations & upstreams: many active groups out   there have an interest in making technical contributions to Wikipedia.

Andre, Quim, & Sumana to basically cover these points, divide them up, and one of us do an intro. will fill 15 minutes + 10 min Q&A

Upcoming changes/dates
Other conference deadlines:
 * Guillaume off on Thursday. possibly a couple days off in August/September; will provide tentative dates as soon as they're known
 * Andre:
 * July Wed31-August Mon05: GNOME GUADEC (Brno/CZ)
 * August Wed07-August Mon12: Wikimania (Hongkong/PRC)
 * October Fri04-Sun06: Mozilla Summit 2013
 * Sumana
 * July 16th: all-day meeting
 * Quim flying to Germany this weekend, will work from there until Wikimania, except
 * Quim on holidays July 24-31. Then flying to Hong Kong on Aug 2.
 * Željko:
 * July: some unavailability
 * September 6-7, BalCCon, Novi Sad, Serbia
 * September 27-28, CITCON, Turin, Italy
 * November 7, SQA Days, Lviv, Ukraine
 * Chris:
 * Aug 4-10 Agile2013 - "radically open software testing"
 * possible longish vacation in Octobe
 * LCA : July 20th http://linux.conf.au/media/news/1
 * FOSDEM - with Siebrand, Quim is chasing FOSDEM people :) - as soon as there is a call for devrooms/booths Quim will start discussion

VisualEditor
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-ambassadors/2013-July/000316.html - updated schedule
 * Guillaume working on VE through most of August.

Misc updates
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/07/23/pywikipediabot-moving-to-git-on-july-26/ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Volunteer_coordination_and_outreach/ECT_July_2013_quarterly_review#Next_quarter_goals Rachel? Who is backup? QA documentation improvement: Action item: Rachel to file bug asking to make it impossible to change email address wrong way with dev account Misc: Chris's HotCat test https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/74075/4/features/hotcat.feature
 * Andre has discussed stuff with them on 1 talk page - move to Git first, then move bug trackers into BZ
 * Action item: Sumana to consolidate & prioritize lists of upstreams
 * figuring out how to change your email address in Gerrit
 * changed it the wrong way in Gerrit, then a week later, couldn't log back in
 * LDAP problem
 * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/System_administrators
 * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developers/Maintainers
 * on a larger page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_hub
 * global search http://hexm.de/mw-search
 * or use the dropdown in https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?search=&button=&title=Special%3ASearch to choose "Wikimedia Technical CSE"
 * open question on the QA list from Rachel - how to proceed? Thanks for her bug reports! :)
 * Chris will update obsolete docs especially on browser test automation - consolidating - by August 2nd

Andre updates
Ken Jared & Howie BZ upstream GUADEC absence
 * Andre sent Ken a note summarizing positions re Ops bug workflow
 * Andre is making the workflow work for them
 * Andre, a UX example from Mobile: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51204
 * will have a delegate

Wikimania
Rachel- vacation Aug 5-9 Other conference deadlines:
 * Guillaume: possibly a couple days off in August/September; will provide tentative dates as soon as they're known
 * Andre:
 * July Wed31-August Mon05: GNOME GUADEC (Brno/CZ)
 * August Wed07-August Mon12: Wikimania (Hongkong/PRC)
 * October Fri04-Sun06: Mozilla Summit 2013
 * Sumana
 * Quim in Germany until Wikimania, except
 * Quim on holidays July 24-31. Then flying to Hong Kong on Aug 2.
 * Željko:
 * vacation late July - early August
 * August 16, eurucamp/JRubyConf EU Workshop, Berlin, Germany
 * September 6-7, BalCCon, Novi Sad, Serbia
 * September 27-28, CITCON, Turin, Italy
 * November 7, SQA Days, Lviv, Ukraine
 * Chris:
 * Aug 4-10 Agile2013 - "radically open software testing"
 * possible days off in October
 * FOSDEM - with Siebrand, Quim is chasing FOSDEM people :) - as soon as there is a call for devrooms/booths Quim will start discussion