Extension:LiquidThreads/Notes

Some notes about LiquidThreads.

Links:
 * Test site
 * Feedback
 * Software commits
 * All LQT bugs
 * All unresolved LQT bugs
 * Old test site

Note: LiquidThreads is being actively developed, so at times these notes may not be applicable. Please strike them as necessary.

Current issues

 * URL parameters seem long and awkward (e.g., &lqt_method=talkpage_new_thread)
 * Section anchors are named poorly (#lqt_thread_XXX); nobody knows or cares what lqt is; simpler language would be nice &mdash; update: 'nother example: &lqt_method=summarize&lqt_operand=330 operand? really?
 * Floating action box can be dizzying / aggravating when scrolling up and down
 * Header action buttons ([Edit↑] [History↑] [Delete↑]) seem awkwardly positioned
 * Thread index "Started by" column gives too much weight to original poster (perhaps remove the column altogether or at least make it optional)
 * No tooltip for the quote icon in the action box?
 * Icons are confusing (no idea what the pencil means and how it's different from the reply button, for example); both pencil and reply arrow mean write....
 * "Edited by other users" should be a link or something (it also gets covered up by the floating action box, which is a bit annoying)
 * There's a summary field for replies; not sure if that's necessary (perhaps pre-fill it?)
 * Need a graceful way to handle user signatures ( ~ )
 * Watch checkbox isn't clear whether you're watching the entire page or just the thread you're replying to
 * There appears to be non-optional em dash usage for signatures
 * Rounded corners won't be supported on older browsers (not sure they're good for a default; defaults should be as widely supported as possible, wikis can customize themselves)
 * Timestamp is really light currently (using #C0C0C0 currently)
 * Copying and pasting the timestamp of a reply is impossible with the floating action box
 * "Added to watchlist" message should probably be split for threads (you're not watching a page and its associated talk page...)
 * Perhaps add sortability to the "Last modified" column in the thread index
 * Search seems to be completely broken (tried searching for "love"; no results when there's clearly a "Love the small, dynamic post form" thread topic) &mdash; update: still seems to be completely broken; maybe the search index isn't being updated on lqt.labs.wm.o?
 * When summarizing a thread, there's a useless "Subject:" field (any changes are simply discarded) &mdash; update: still useless, though it seems to auto-fill now; should just be removed altogether
 * Summary is too similar to the original post; hard to differentiate between the two (even with the dark background) [I guess they shouldn't be in the same box???]
 * No ability to delete your own posts
 * No ability to delete others' posts
 * Deleting a post doesn't leave a marker in the thread (intentional? prone to abuse?)
 * No easy way to view log of deleted posts in a particular thread (I thought I saw a log somewhere.... can't seem to find it now)
 * Undeleting / restoring a post doesn't update "replies" count at the top of the page
 * No link from Special:Watchlist to Special:NewMessages (and vice versa)
 * LiquidThreads don't interact well with user renames (going to end up with nasty bot reliance; bad scene)
 * ? what happens if a vandal removes this? Degrade gracefully (all threads apparently disappear)? Will these go into a special category ("Category:Pages with non-visible threads"?)? Reliance on AbuseFilter to prevent mischief?
 * Preview for summaries puts thread at all the way bottom (very easy to miss; should probably at least include the first section? or have a pointer to the bottom? or use some show/hide magic?)
 * Previewing replies doesn't show the reply in context of the thread (confusing as hell)
 * Summaries are signed; replies aren't (confusing for new users.... at a minimum should have a warning?)
 * Submitting a thread summary goes to the thread page; should maybe return to starting page?
 * All the "watch this page" checkboxes are confusing (don't know if you're watching just a summary, just a thread, the actual page, etc.)
 * Action box should never overlap with post content (http://pruebita.com/floating-overlap-is-evil.png) (see also: layout redesign idea 1 layout redesign idea 2)
 * Drop-down for threads per page (temporary)
 * Configurable number of displayed threads by count (per page [already filed], globally?, per namespace?)
 * Configurable number of displayed threads by timestamp (show all threads < 1 month on a talk page by default, or < 2 days) (per page? globally? per namespace?) [Might be a really good reason to cleanup ?action=info!]
 * "Start a new thread" box is confusing; seems like you could type in a new thread topic in the place where search is (similar to InputBox); perhaps make "start a new thread" a proper button and put it on a different line?
 * Add ability to protect a thread
 * Page protection should apply to the threads
 * There's no "redirected from" text for moved headers
 * "Last modified" column in the thread index needs white-space:nowrap;
 * RC feed is showing raw HTML (&lt;a>&lt;/a>) for thread moves
 * Overlap of long thread titles with the interface
 * "Link to / More" is confusing as shit; they're at the bottom of the post, but the thread action links are above; needs better UI to indicate which post you're acting on
 * "Start a new discussion" is still confusing next to an input bar
 * "Summary" field isn't auto-filling until preview (using AJAX editing, at least)
 * Need rigorous testing with JS disabled
 * "Last modified" column in the thread index needs a white-space:nowrap; applied to it
 * Is "/reply" localizable yet? I know there's a bug about this and I thought it was fixed, but this wiki seems to indicate it's not (or the default has bad capitalization); need to investigate
 * "It's possible to post a hierarchical reply, you just use "Reply" in the menu for a particular post. It's possible to move threads into a hierarchical structure if you like. The point is that by default discussions will go linearly." &rarr; ugh, massive confusion here; needs to be re-thought
 * Auto-filled summary discards user input after preview (if the user wants to change it for whatever reason); either make it non-editable or change current behavior to not eat the user's changes
 * Any reason the thread index is limited to a certain width? May make more sense to give it 100%...
 * From the IRC RC feed: Euku moved Thread:Talk:LiquidThreads testing/abcdefhg from Talk:LiquidThreads testing to  not updating post-save using AJAX editing (referenced on this page)
 * Child threads don't get restored automatically when the parent thread is restored
 * Updating thread titles doesn't enter Special:Contributions or the RC feed (vandalism vector); it is logged in the full thread history&mdash;not sufficient, though
 * "Summarize" thread function doesn't use AJAX editing
 * "Change subject" link can be clicked an infinite number of times
 * "Change subject" "Save/Cancel" buttons overlap with thread action links ("History", etc.)
 * "More" --> "edit" --> make a change --> save --> sends user to the wrong section anchor
 * (21024) Add ability to make a thread sticky
 * (21024) Add ability to sink ("archive") a thread
 * (20536) Watch thread link needs more AJAX
 * (17114) Close disc-page for new threads
 * (19337) Some way to lock a thread to new posts
 * (19580) Make threads collapsible
 * (19975) Fix paging for LiquidThreads discussion pages
 * (20004) LiquidThreads search supports only Lucene
 * (20536) LiquidThreads thread-level commands need some lovin'
 * (20541) LiquidThreads notifications and watchlist notifications need to be unified
 * (20542) Experiment with embedding LiquidThreads discussion forums on other random pages (CodeReview etc)
 * (20545) Add AJAX-triggered inline search for LiquidThreads threads
 * (20579) Per-talkpage history function for LiquidThreads
 * (20589) LiquidThreads thread splitting and merging should be drag n drop
 * (20642) LiquidThreads tab customisation does not play nicely with Vector Skin
 * (20644) Messy 'new messages' pages
 * (20649) Inconsistent thread history display for thread view
 * (20684) Add feed for Special:NewMessages in LiquidThreads
 * (20890) LiquidThreads should store read/unread status for all messages for all users
 * (20909) LiquidThreads hasn't been tested on RTL
 * (20929) Show signature in preview
 * (20930) Lack of paper trail for thread splitting and merging
 * (20931) Hook edit for LiquidThreads post-edit updates
 * (20932) LiquidThreads editing toolbar does not work
 * (20933) LiquidThreads should have more display preferences
 * (20934) LiquidThreads has no support for RTL
 * (20935) LiquidThreads placeholders have no pointer to the new page
 * (20955) Restore quoting syntax
 * (20956) Menu does not work for thread permalinks
 * (20957) In-place editing of thread subjects
 * (20958) Threads in multiple places
 * (20961) Per-page configurable thread limit
 * (20965) LiquidThreads: API for creating and replying to threads
 * (20968) PLURAL support needed in JavaScripts
 * (21001) Blocked users cannot post to their own talk page.
 * (21021) LiquidThreads new messages should display the talk page each message is on
 * (21024) Ability to sticky, bump and bury threads
 * (21029) LiquidThreads toolbox prevents clicking or highlighting of content
 * (21055) Should be an option for whether or not to bump a topic when editing/replying to a thread
 * (21056) Make "Started By" column disablable
 * (21057) Moved thread notice breadcrumbs should assume the sort-key of the moved thread.
 * (21058) Reports that multi-level reply counting is not working correctly
 * (21067) Fully AJAXify post and edit cycle
 * (21170) Using liquid threads should't remove the edit tab, just change it
 * (21184) Within-session method of reattributing anonymous posts.
 * (21185) New Messages overflows horizontally
 * (21186) Dynamically loaded post/reply/edit forms lose changes on page transition
 * (21256) API should support &action=edit&section=new regardless of whether LiquidThreads is used on the page
 * (21268) LiquidThreads treats discussions on transcluded subpages as different discussions
 * (21319) Infinite recursion in Thread::loadAllData
 * (21379) Notification to Special:NewMessages on talk page header change
 * (21380) Cannot get to 'old style' talk page history from talk page
 * (21381) PHP Fatal error: Call to a member function topmostThread on a non-object
 * (21384) E-mail by empty sender
 * (21393) You have new messages. There are no new messages for you.
 * (21445) Headers not parsed in TOC
 * (21446) Need skin specific CSS for skins in the standard product
 * (21452) Information missing in thread history
 * (21457) Spammed by thread traffic
 * (21458) IE7 apparently unable to display edit box at nesting level > 9
 * (21462) Posting an reply to message at Special:NewMessages breaks the view
 * (21466) Exception: Post 50 has contaminated reply 50
 * (21507) Thread moves are logged to IRC in user language
 * (21531) Menu overlaps thread title
 * (21541) Pre-save transform not applied to LiquidThreads signatures
 * (21553) Remove LiquidThreads customisation of recentchanges
 * (21554) Missing second-level replies in thread permalink view
 * (21586) Should add logging table entries for thread actions
 * (21605) LiquidThreads: "This message has been edited" should have history link and last modified date
 * (21608) Only display thread fragments on Special:NewMessages
 * (21609) AJAX for post editing in LiquidThreads
 * (21610) Merge "new messages" with "my talkpage"
 * (21611) Preview button sometimes missing in action (editing a post with LiquidThreads)
 * (21612) Remove username from LQT titles
 * (21625) New Section Link
 * (21626) edit tools break LiquidThreads AJAX forms in IE
 * (21630) LiquidThreads needs testing under obscure skins
 * (21635) LiquidThreads data is not imported from database dumps
 * (21636) Toolbar overlaps horizontal rule
 * (21637) Infinite scrolling on LiquidThreads discussion pages
 * (21640) LiquidThreads revision storage breaks when serialised object size exceeds 65,555 bytes
 * (21648) LiquidThreads signatures present a difficult-to-revert vandalism vector
 * (21649) Remove signature button from toolbar
 * (21651) Call to undefined method ThreadDiffView::show
 * (21652) Thread toolbar command list takes up too much space
 * (21670) Moving a thread leads to empty page (PHP Fatal error)
 * (21686) page "edit" link not working
 * (21687) Cannot edit new contributions any more.
 * (21688) Operlapping header and links
 * (21689) Reduce screen clutter by page index.
 * (21690) Allow users to set thread paging limit with preferences or view options.
 * (21691) Header lost ability to use pre-save wiki syntax
 * (21692) personal edit toolbar lost
 * (21693) Do not rearrange page content.
 * (21694) signatures duplicated.
 * (21695) Image overlapping text "wigger"
 * (21696) Avoid unnecessary images
 * (21697) Avoid unnecessary lines
 * (21698) Recompactify text in support page
 * (21699) LQT edit does not preserve "Watch this page" state
 * (21700) Restore "minor edit" selector.
 * (21701) Preview button is missing sometimes.
 * (21702) wasted screen space by series of links on separate lines.
 * (21703) Duplicated edit toolbar
 * (21704) needless link list overlaps images
 * (21705) All sections made identical
 * (21706) message incorrectly refering to "talk page"
 * (21707) message having wrong link
 * (21708) remove gray dates / times
 * (21721) LiquidThreads "delete" link displays when the page doesn't exist
 * (21722) LiquidThreads URL parameters and section anchors are ugly
 * (21723) LiquidThreads thread action links need tooltips
 * (21724) LiquidThreads thread summaries are unsigned
 * (21725) Link to link for LiquidThreads summaries doesn't use JavaScript
 * (21726) LiquidThreads "/reply" in page title should be localizable
 * (21727) LiquidThreads "start a new discussion" interface is confusing
 * (21728) LiquidThreads AJAX reply doesn't increment replies counter until refresh
 * (21729) LiquidThreads oldid links for replies have a bad interface
 * (21730) LiquidThreads "Fragment of a discussion" link uses an unnecessary section anchor
 * (21731) LiquidThreads "thread" tab doesn't take the user to the thread
 * (21732) LiquidThreads has confusing interaction with "watch" feature
 * (21733) LiquidThreads replies non-optionally add the thread to the watchlist
 * (21734) LiquidThreads posts don't catch manual user signatures gracefully
 * (21735) Standard LiquidThreads reply shouldn't have a "summary" input (or it should be auto-filled)
 * (21743) Strange reaction to subject blanking
 * (21756) Do not waste screen space with useless trash
 * (21757) Triple edit bar
 * (21758) edit bar appears six times
 * (21759) LiquidThreads should allow "mark unread"
 * (21852) Ability to modify redirects
 * (21880) LiquidThreads "start a new discussion" jumps down too far
 * (21901) LiquidThreads "start a new discussion" exhibits strange behavior
 * (21902) LiquidThreads new thread causes missing table of contents
 * (21903) LiquidThreads namespace names (Thread, Summary, Summary talk) cannot be localised
 * (21904) LiquidThreads thread titles obscured by thread action links
 * (21909) Please describe some LiquidThreads messages to allow better localisation
 * (21920) LiquidThreads "more" link is not accessible to keyboard

Resolved issues

 * You can add a summary of your summary? Yo dawg...
 * I think summarizing a thread now accuses me of editing someone else's post
 * Non-admins have a delete link
 * When you initially click reply, the edit toolbar doesn't appear (appears after previewing, though)
 * Perhaps remove "minor" checkbox altogether for replies?
 * No tooltips for the icons in the floating action box
 * &section=new doesn't add a new section, it modifies the header (this is confusing and kinda nasty)

Fixed, but not deployed

 * Thread index "Replies" column can be confusing (only counts direct replies to the original post) (57427, 57428)
 * (20535) Display LiquidThreads permalink address in a dialog (57427)
 * Cursor focus after hitting "start a new discussion" should be the subject field (57428)
 * (21020) Page moves don't move the threads (57455, 57483)
 * (20663) Orange bar of death when watching things (57515)
 * (20663) Put "new messages" into the tooltips "new messaages (4)" (and add a special class for bolding when it is > 0) [related: 20103] (57515)

Raw notes
Commented out (though feel free to peek if you're bored).