User:Sharihareswara (WMF)/archivedectmeetings May2013

7 May 2013

 * The QA list thing: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48057
 * Decided to create qa@ list and, at first, target it to new Wikimedia contributors who are into browser test automation

Conferences and vacations, etc.
Schedule Amsterdam, OSBridge, Wikimania travel soon! For Amsterdam: Talk with Doreen & cc Sumana


 * Guillaume possibly a couple days off in early July
 * Andre:
 * Public holidays in CZ on May Wed08
 * Holidays (BE/NL) May Mon20-Thu23 -- any replacement available? Quim maybe? I'll be here--Quim
 * Sumana
 * Wed & Fri May 15 & 17 off
 * a little vacation before & after Amsterdam
 * Some time traveling or training in June
 * Quim vaguely thinking on some holidays in July. Specific dates coming soon.
 * Željko:
 * May 15-17, DORS/CLUC 2013, Zagreb, Croatia
 * May 18-23, vacation, Amsterdam, Netherlands
 * May 24-26, Wikimedia Hackathon, Amsterdam, Netherlands
 * June 10-12, Selenium Conference, Boston, MA, USA
 * August 16-18, eurucamp, Berlin, Germany (maybe, waiting for reply if my talk is accepted)
 * September 6-7, BalCCon, Novi Sad, Serbia (maybe, waiting for reply if my talk is accepted)
 * Chris:
 * May 13-17 relocating, details TBD
 * May 24-26, Wikimedia Hackathon, Amsterdam, Netherlands
 * Aug 4-10 Agile2013 - "radically open software testing"

budget

 * TODO - Once the board approves the budget, let's talk about how to plan to use the VDC budget & the dev tools contractor budget
 * TODO - Quim, Rob & Sumana to discuss metrics contract

ambassadors / noticeboard notifications
Questions:
 * Original proposal at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tech/Ambassadors#Noteworthy_changes about a weekly tech summary (for upcoming deployments, etc.) living on mediawiki.org (or meta?)
 * Recent proposal on enwiki about a "Developer's noticeboard" for developers to post tech announcements in a place free of the VP/T: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29&oldid=555024288#Developer.27s_Noticeboard
 * Alternative proposal: Consolidate announcements on the ambassadors list and use bot to archive/link wikitech-ambassadors emails on wiki (talk page/noticeboard/archive): http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-May/thread.html#69231
 * Problem: it'd be better not to have to wait for someone to develop that tool; in the meantime, that wikitech-ambassador weekly summary could be folded into the previous "tech news" proposal, and posted using the Global delivery system to ambassadors talk pages, noticeboards, etc. And since we'd actually be using the distribution list more, we can advertise it more (Guillaume has an ambassadors recruitment blog post on his todo list). Also, recruitment for volunteers to help with the weekly summary (cf. discussion started with people from Signpost and similar community newspapers doing that kind of monitoring already)
 * Does that make sense?
 * mediawiki.org or meta around Tech (Guillaume currently thinking meta, but there are arguments for both)
 * any questions / comments / advice?

"Less is more" discussion
Proposal by Quim: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Technical_communications#Technical_communications:_less_is_more Quim: let's try to think about activities when posting a tech blog post, and vice versa, just to check if closer collaboration is relevant

wikimedia-l thread/rules for volunteers' participation
Andre figuring out policy re adminship in BZ, groups - aim for early June for having a policy stated

Quick update by Andre about his outreach to dev teams for regular triage meetings (if time left)
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Development_teams_usage Some teams Andre meets with regularly. Some teams take care of triage on their own. And then on TODO: Echo in E2, QA component. Situation is a lot better than it was 6 months ago!
 * AFT is better now - fewer unprioritized & Highest
 * WM Labs - Andre can change priorities; the Labs team doesn't really use it.

Vacations, conferences

 * Guillaume possibly a couple days off in June or July; will provide tentative dates as soon as they're known
 * Andre:
 * Holidays (BE/NL) May Mon20-Thu23 -- any replacement available? Quim maybe? I'll be here--Quim
 * likely in SF from Jun Tue11-Mon17
 * OpenSourceBridge (Portland/Oregon) Jun Tue18-Fri21
 * Sumana
 * Wed & Fri May 15 & 17 off
 * a little vacation before & after Amsterdam
 * Some time traveling or training in June, + OSBridge
 * Quim vaguely thinking on some holidays in July. Specific dates coming soon.
 * Željko:
 * May 15-17, DORS/CLUC 2013, Zagreb, Croatia
 * May 18-23, vacation, Amsterdam, Netherlands
 * May 24-26, Wikimedia Hackathon, Amsterdam, Netherlands
 * June 10-12, Selenium Conference, Boston, MA, USA
 * August 16-18, eurucamp, Berlin, Germany (maybe, waiting for reply if my talk is accepted)
 * September 6-7, BalCCon, Novi Sad, Serbia (maybe, waiting for reply if my talk is accepted)
 * Chris:
 * May 13-17 relocating, details TBD
 * May 24-26, Wikimedia Hackathon, Amsterdam, Netherlands
 * Aug 4-10 Agile2013 - "radically open software testing"

Tech ambassadors
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/Ambassadors
 * TODO: Sumana to give Guillaume some names/email of people to test this out

Tech weekly news
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/Latest Tech/News may have a little too much to read to explore -- move "read latest news" higher up? Will it be translated before posting to village pumps? Already done: contact the Signpost-like publications. In a month: contact again those who have not subscribed yet
 * a volunteer helped a lot
 * lots of little tweaks that will make the next ones easier
 * Guillaume has reached out to a lot of people to suggest they subscribe or contribute, including Signpost-like entities
 * suggestion: crowdsource monitoring of important tech changes
 * next: blog post
 * 5 or 6 complete translations of the first issue!
 * Guillaume's involvement to gradually drop lower
 * first version was posted to VP on all wikis with a note saying "just this first one will be posted here" - people can subscribe so it's posted to a community page or a talkpage
 * look at subscribers - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors 70+ pages will get this every week
 * next time: translation before distribution
 * Different communities will want different tradeoffs. Ask McBride whether he could add a feature to global distro bot: if there's an existing translation, even incomplete, bot posts translation?  But that would be complicated, moreso than current setup
 * They choose whether they want en version directly posted on VP (distribution list)

Amsterdam prep
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Amsterdam_Hackathon_2013

misc
wikimedia-l thread/rules for volunteers' participation: Andre figuring out policy re adminship in BZ, groups - aim for early June for having a policy stated https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Calendar Next week: Quim to consider how to work with intern re June testing activities
 * If you think we should work with an org please add it to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Organizations (Talk page also good). Quim.
 * Just highlighting the new look&feel of https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-announce - feedback welcome. Quim.

Other conferences/dates

 * Guillaume possibly a couple days off in June or July; will provide tentative dates as soon as they're known
 * Andre:
 * Holidays (BE/NL) May Mon20-Thu23 -- any replacement available? Quim maybe? I'll be here--Quim
 * likely in SF from Jun Tue11-Mon17
 * OpenSourceBridge (Portland/Oregon) Jun Tue18-Fri21
 * Sumana
 * Wed & Fri May 15 & 17 off
 * a little vacation before & after Amsterdam
 * Some time traveling or training in June, + OSBridge
 * Quim vaguely thinking on some holidays in July. Specific dates coming soon.
 * Željko:
 * May 15-17, DORS/CLUC 2013, Zagreb, Croatia
 * May 18-23, vacation, Amsterdam, Netherlands
 * May 24-26, Wikimedia Hackathon, Amsterdam, Netherlands
 * June 10-12, Selenium Conference, Boston, MA, USA
 * August 16-18, eurucamp, Berlin, Germany (maybe, waiting for reply if my talk is accepted)
 * September 6-7, BalCCon, Novi Sad, Serbia (maybe, waiting for reply if my talk is accepted)
 * Chris:
 * May 24-26, Wikimedia Hackathon, Amsterdam, Netherlands
 * Aug 4-10 Agile2013 - "radically open software testing"