Talk pages project/Mobile/vi

Trang này bao gồm thông tin về công việc mà Nhóm biên tập đang thực hiện để cải thiện trải nghiệm của mọi người khi sử dụng các trang thảo luận trên trang web dành cho thiết bị di động.

Sáng kiến ​​này nằm trong Dự án trang thảo luận, nỗ lực lớn hơn của nhóm chúng tôi nhằm giúp những người đóng góp, ở các cấp độ kinh nghiệm, giao tiếp dễ dàng hơn trên Wikipedia bằng các trang thảo luận. Để thực hiện điều này, chúng tôi đang xây dựng dựa trên Tư vấn trang thảo luận 2019 và các quy ước cộng đồng hiện có, để từng bước phát triển giao diện trực quan của các trang thảo luận theo cách đảm bảo tương thích ngược với trải nghiệm trang thảo luận hiện tại.

Để tham gia và theo dõi sự phát triển của dự án này, chúng tôi khuyên bạn nên thêm trang này vào danh sách theo dõi của mình. Chúng tôi sẽ sử dụng trang này để:


 * chia sẻ và mời phản hồi về thiết kế
 * công bố kế hoạch triển khai
 * chia sẻ dữ liệu về việc sử dụng và tác động của các tính năng này.



Bắt đầu Thử nghiệm A/B

Hôm nay, thử nghiệm A/B đã bắt đầu đánh giá bộ Công cụ thảo luận di động mà chúng tôi đã giới thiệu trên các trang thảo luận: Công cụ trả lời, Công cụ chủ đề mới, Đăng ký chủ đề và bộ thay đổi thiết kế. Chi tiết hơn tại T298062.

Wiki thử nghiệm A/B

Trong những tuần tới, thử nghiệm A/B sẽ bắt đầu đánh giá bộ Công cụ thảo luận di động mà chúng tôi đã giới thiệu trên các trang thảo luận: Công cụ trả lời, Công cụ chủ đề mới, Đăng ký chủ đề và bộ thay đổi thiết kế.

Các wiki tham gia thử nghiệm A/B này là: az.wiki, de.wiki, es.wiki, fa.wiki, hi.wiki, id.wiki, it.wiki, nl.wiki, pl.wiki, pt.wiki, ro.wiki, ru.wiki, th.wiki, tr.wiki, uk.wiki.

On wikis where mobile DiscussionTools are enabled (see list), you will soon see a new link that reads "Learn more about this page" at the top of talk pages, beneath the "Latest comment" indicator.

When tapped, any page notices that exist on the talk page in question will appear.

In doing the above, volunteers will also gain the ability to customize how these talk page notices appear. See T312309 for more details.

This week, we completed an analysis to learn how A) the rate at which people published the mobile talk page edits they started and B) the rate at which the mobile talk page edits people made were reverted before and after the Reply an New Topic Tools were made available.

In summary, after the Reply and New Topic Tools became available on mobile talk pages at the Arabic, Bengali, Chinese, French, Hebrew, Japanese, Haitian Creole, Korean, and Vietnamese Wikipedias, the edit completion rate increased and the talk page edit revert rate decreased.

These results are leading us to be confident making the mobile Reply and New Topic Tools available at more wikis in the near-future.

You can learn more about these results in the Impact section below and read the full report here.

On 29 June, the mobile Reply and New Topic Tools became available to everyone using mobile talk pages at the following Wikipedias: Arabic, Bangla, Hebrew, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, and Chinese.

You can see the deployment status of all Talk Pages Project features by visiting the Deployment Status page.

The Editing team is working to enable the mobile Reply and New Discussion Tools for all editors at these 8 Wikipedias: Arabic, Bangla, Hebrew, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, and Chinese. The Reply tool is already available to all editors using the desktop site at these Wikipedias.

Tomorrow, 23 February 2022, the mobile Reply and New Discussion Tools will become available to everyone (logged in and out) accessing the Haitian Creole Wikipedia (ht.wiki).

Initially, volunteers at ht.wiki will not be able to turn the mobile Reply and New Discussion Tools on/off. The Editing Team will consider adding mobile-specific settings for DiscussionTools features in T302341.

Mục tiêu
Công việc này nhằm cải thiện trải nghiệm của mọi người khi sử dụng các trang thảo luận trên trang web dành cho thiết bị di động nhằm mục đích gây ra:
 * 1) Junior Contributors để ngay lập tức nhận ra các trang thảo luận là nơi giao tiếp với các tình nguyện viên khác.
 * 2) Junior và Senior Contributors để có thể trực quan và dễ dàng hơn:
 * 3) 'Trả lời cho điều gì đó mà người khác đã nói
 * 4) Bắt đầu một cuộc thảo luận về một cái gì đó mới
 * 5) Biết khi ai đó đang nói điều gì đó liên quan đến họ



Lý thuyết thay đổi
If the activity happening within talk pages is easier for people to see and understand and the steps for participating clearer, then people, across experience levels, will recognize and use talk pages as spaces for communicating with other volunteers about how to make Wikipedia better.

Impact
This section will contain information about how this work impacted the Objectives of this project.

Analysis 1: Reply and New Topic Tools Impact


In this impact analysis of the mobile Reply and New Topic Tools, we sought to answer two primary questions:


 * 1) After the mobile Reply and New Topic Tools were introduced, how – if at all – did the likelihood that people would successfully publish the new talk page topics and comments they started drafting change?
 * 2) After the mobile Reply and New Topic Tools were introduced, how – if at all – did the likelihood that people would publish talk page edits that are reverted within 48 hours of being published?.

To answer the questions above, we compared the rates at which people published the edits they started and the rates at which published edits were reverted before and after the mobile Reply and New Topic Tools were made available at the following Wikipedias: Arabic, Bengali, Chinese, French, Hebrew, Japanese, Haitian Creole, Korean, and Vietnamese. The results from this test can be found in the "Findings" section below.

Timing

This analysis was completed on 1 September 2022. These results include data from the two weeks before and after 29 June 2022.



Findings


 * Edit Completion Rate Increased
 * There was a 53.4% (12 percentage points) increase in the rate at which people who are logged in and logged out published the mobile talk page edits they started.
 * There was a 155% (14 percentage points) increase in the rate at which people who have made <100 cumulative edits published the mobile talk page edits they started.
 * Revert Rate Decreased [[File:Mobile talk page edit revert rate before and after deployment for mobile reply and new topic tools.png|alt= A chart showing the mobile talk page edit revert rate before and after deployment for mobile reply and new topic tools |thumb|318x318px| Mobile talk pages revert rate (by account status) ]]
 * There was a 5.6% decrease in the proportion of mobile talk page edits people who are logged in made that were reverted.
 * There was a 10.2% decrease in the proportion of mobile talk page edits people who are logged out made that were reverted.

Full report


 * Impact of Mobile Reply and New Topic Tools

Background
The Editing Team is committed to evolving wikitext talk pages in a way that gives experienced contributors more leverage to coordinate their work and connect with other volunteers, while making the same communication practices and capabilities legible and intuitive for newer contributors.

For these wikitext talk pages to be valuable, Junior Contributors need to intuitively recognize and use them as spaces to communicate with other volunteers about improving the wiki and Senior Contributors need to be able to spend minimal effort understanding the conversations happening on a given page.

The trouble is, volunteers across experience levels find that the current mobile talk page experiences lacking. Specifically, user feedback, usability tests, and the Talk Page Consultation (see: #Mobile users and #Design) have highlighted the difficulties people have reading and using talk pages on the mobile site:

Recognizing talk pages"'I felt I had to scan the page a lot for what i needed, as different elements didn't really stand out. It wasn't really obvious that i was looking at a message from someone...' – Junior Contributor, Usertesting.com"

Responding to comments"'I can reply only to the last comment. Replying is not clear, I cannot see how many colons is there (I must count them).' – Patrik L., Czech Wikipedia"Starting new discussions"'Mobile editing is very confusing and difficult, as others have said. There is no mention of signatures when editing a mobile talk page.' — そらたこ, Japanese Wikipedia"Evaluating activity and navigating talk pages"'...desktop lets me 'see' the whole of a talk page at once. It gives me an overview, allowing me to determine at a glance, not only the topics, but also the number and depth of replies a user has received. Whilst mobile view gives me a nice tidy page and big text to look at, it gives me absolutely no idea of whether any given topic has been answered by anyone.' – Nick Moyes, English Wikipedia"

History
Many projects, conversations, and research have worked to, and are working to, improve contributors' experiences with talk pages. This project is better off for their existence. Some of the projects the team continues to learn from are listed on the main project page and below. If there is a project you think we should be aware of, please boldly add it here.


 * https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Template_talk:Fig/sandbox
 * Custom section calls to action at it.wiki: Wikipedia:Bar/2021 04 14
 * People using custom CSS change how talk pages appear: https://global-search.toolforge.org/?namespaces=2%2C4...
 * Convenient Discussions
 * reply-link
 * Flow satisfaction survey
 * Moderated Testing, November 2014: talk pages and Flow
 * Talk pages consultation

Glossary
The Talk pages project glossary is intended to help us all communicate about talk pages more effectively by making sure we have a shared understanding about the words we use in our discussions and documentation throughout the project.