Template talk:PD Help Page

Help Contents link
The Help Contents link at the top of Template:PD Help Page is a navigational aid to help people who arrive at a specific "Help:" page find their way top level Help - Help Contents. Some people looking for help will be new to the site and not know their way around it yet and will need such navigational aid, especially in the Help namespace because the Help namespace currently has the confusing label "Help" configured as the article tab label. Newcomers see that "Help" tab label and think it goes to top level site Help but it does not. It goes to just the specific Help page they happen to be at already (or to be under if they are in its Talk, History, or Edit area). --Rogerhc 11:34, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 * This is a kludge and I am not happy with it. Maybe <- to Help Top would be better. Best would be to not have this navigational confusion built into the "Help:" namespace's article tab label in the firstplace. Ideas? --Rogerhc 11:46, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Eh, people who arrived at mediawiki.org and then already went to any specific help page, presumably do know about the edit button and the others ... they know that clicking "history" doesn't bring them to a text about the history of whatever, that clicking "article" doesn't bring them to the one and only article (whatever that could be), and also that clicking "help" doesn't bring them to the one and only help.

This template has one major aim, that is to inform about the license status of all pages in the help namespace. You can't explain on every page how this site is structured and how it may work globally. It doesn't make sense to reiterate many parallel links to support desk/forum/manual on every page (people won't read it if it's too long and has too many links). So please don't fill up such templates, that are displayed very prominently at the top of nearly all pages of a specific namespace, with needless information. Thanks -- :Bdk: 12:16, 6 September 2006 (UTC) Mary amak mittha kotha bole biye koreche. Or kaji eta. O amar sathe mottha kotha bole amar sathe relationship koreche. Ekhon mary notun kawke peyeche er nonjo amar sathe relationship ses korar jonno pahol hoy geche. Mary ke or familyr kew believe kore na. Mary sobar sathe mittha motha bole. Mary jua khele lottery khela ar manush der sathe relationship kora or ekta nesha. Mary er age o aro kichu manush er sathe relationship korar natok kore oder life o nosto koreche. Mary karo sathe mon theke relationship kore na. O sudhu game khela like kore. Manush er sathe relationship kore ei rokom natok kore. Prothom prothom ami ja boltam she tai korto ami jodi boltam 3 tar somoy ghum theke uthe thakte o thiki uthto. Ekhon mary bole ami sudhu oi rokom baje kotha niye thaki. Ei mary amak ei sob use to korechen age jodi ore ekdin na dekhat tahole bolto tumi af ager moton vvalobadho na na. Ekhon sobar kache o bole ami eisob baje jinish niye thaki. Sara khon ore sathe ei sob kotha boli. O kharap business kore. Ami or sob kichu jante perechi tai o amar sathe kotha o bolte chay ma. Apnar to sir valo kore amar sob kichu dekhchen ami keno ore video korte jabo.? O amar sathe ei rokom kichu koreche er jonnoi to ami ore kichu boli kalte to dekhlen o bahroom e ka me niye gelo ar amar sathe bole ki boyche mary ekta pagol. Kar kach theke taka niyeche oi taka o thik moton dite pare na er jonno pagoo hoy geche. Ar amar kache mone hoy o kichu kharap jinish er sathe jorito oke ami joto din dhore dekhchi bideo call o ki jeno or bag theke ber kore amak delhay na. Onek din ami or ekta jinish khub valo kore dekhechi o market e jokhon bazar korte jay tokhon o kar hath e jeno ki dey, polithin er bag e polithin er bagi o besi use kore bag ta ekdom choto. Ami 4”icn 6-“inc er moton hobe. Amar kache ou rokom ekta polithin ache. Oi polithin er bag gulo hocche o jei peket gulo te ousodh rakhe thik oi rokm. Ami ekdin oke bolechi kew ki sathe ache.?eta onek din ager kotha or sathe meet o kori nai oi din shoni bar chilo. Or husband oi din basay chilo. Gari miye ber hoy amak o ja bollo oi sob kotha kono lowery manush er mukh theke ami suni nai. O mittha kotha bole

'Public Domain Help Pages' link
Where it says "this page is one of the Public Domain Help Pages", is that the link you are discussing above? Currently that link seems wrong. Someone's pointed it to Project:Help instead of Project:PD Help (the page which explains public domain help!) -- Harry Wood 17:23, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Good spot. That probably came about from when rogerhc was moving everything around in a somewhat haphazard manner.  Fixed now. --HappyDog 17:40, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

'C' Image problem
Funny mediawiki bug. Maybe related SVG resizing. This little icon is currently not displaying properly I guess it must be an intermittent problem. Presumably the resized SVG image gets stored as rastarized image file in the cache. It's supposed to be at this URL http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/PD-icon.svg/20px-PD-icon.svg.png At the current time, it isn't there. If I ask for a newly resized image one pixel wider. it works. So I guess it thinks it has something cached, when it hasn't -- Harry Wood 11:20, 26 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Both are fine for me. --HappyDog 16:15, 26 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Actually it looked fine again a couple of hours later. It's an intermittent bug... unless I'm going crazy. Ah well. Forget it.
 * But while I'm grumbling about graphics... Image talk:PD-banner.png
 * -- Harry Wood 12:50, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh and it's gone again. You see that? Nothing at this URL (but it'll probably fix itself a bit later on) -- Harry Wood 11:26, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * There we go. It's fixed again now. Hmmm intermittent bug. -- Harry Wood 11:50, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Exclude in print
This template is useless in PDF export.

Please put in Exclude in print Category.

39.209.212.71 09:48, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Format
I don't understand the current syntax of Template:PD Help Page. How many call it via TNT and how many don't? Anyway, I'm marking it for translation because some subpages are not following the same format and are transcluded unstyled. Also, I'll streamline the text (cf. translatewiki:MediaWiki:Wikidata-shortcopyrightwarning/en) and I'd like to make it less obstrusive, for instance floating on the right side so that it lets the lead section begin. --Nemo 10:02, 27 December 2013 (UTC)


 * It's been a while since I worked on this template, but if I remember correctly, I set it up so that it wouldn't be necessary to use TNT. I don't like TNT because it requires to edit every single page transcluding the template, whereas if the template itself includes the Template translation logic, the right translation appears automatically on all pages with a single edit. I thought I had cleaned up all the subpages (and fixed their direct transclusions with a bot); what are those that aren't working properly? guillom 09:49, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Your not on your own wiki anymore
Now that help pages are linked from all over mediawiki installs, maybe this should clarify you're not on your own wiki anymore? Or something?

For example, pretend you're a new user:
 * You go to Special:Upload on your wiki
 * You see the help icon on upper-right corner
 * You click through to Help:Managing_files
 * You see the link at the bottom to special pages, and read "Special:Newimages - If you just uploaded one, you will see it here. "
 * So you click on the link, and are very confused that your image isn't there. You don't fully understand your not on your wiki anymore.

Bawolff (talk) 21:1e9, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

editsemiprotected permission required for translation!
Hallo,

I translated the core message using the "Translation" facility. However the translation of a certain message, i.e. Template:PD Help Page/core/6/ar was not saved because it required an extra permission which I do not have.

Any help?

Thank.

--Ahmad Gharbeia أحمد غربية (talk) 09:17, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Removal of Edit and Translate links
I don't understand why they should be there. Few templates have a translation link, and only sysops can edit the template. Removing these links would make its visual cleaner. Eduardogobi (talk) 18:52, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Editprotected
Please remove the edit link as the page is fully protected. Ups and  Downs  (↕) 19:17, 28 February 2018 (UTC)