Talk:Thumbnail style update

Love it
* Love* how MediaViewer allows me to see the actual difference between screenshots on this page. Love it. --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 09:35, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * is this a kind of paid editing to support the media viewer? Where can you see the difference between one picture?--Hubertl (talk) 16:37, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I believe she is referring to the slideshow-functionality. I know she uses a small notepad computer, and might not use browser-tabs, hence it might not be as easy to jump back-and-forth between images (as for someone with browser tabs and mousewheel). (Also, it helps that I captured all the screenshots at the same screensize and placement, meaning things generally line up, so the small changes are easier to see). HTH. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 18:27, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

white space?
Did anyone consider this effect?



Please go back to the drawing board and come again, once you understood layout. --H-stt (talk) 14:57, 23 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm concerned about this as well. While I have a certain affection for the "box" that surrounds thumbnails (the off-white box feels like it helps), the simplest solution might simply be to leave present the extant  border around the image itself. {&#123; Nihiltres &#124;talk&#124;edits}&#125; 16:11, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * But the idea of the update is to get rid of all the borders and frames, in order to get a neat clean image. Great for photos with sharp edges. Useless for diagrams or any other graphics that rely on white space. This "update" was designed by someone who has not the slightest idea about real life design. --H-stt (talk) 16:20, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Not having a clue seems to be the standard mode at WMF. --Voyager (talk) 16:47, 23 July 2014 (UTC)


 * You can always add a border parameter to images, like the example on the right. The downside here is that it appears you can't have a caption as well? We could change this, of course. Steven Walling (WMF) &bull; talk   16:54, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * If necessary, you could draw a box by placing the image inside a table.
 * User:H-stt, I think that the lack of a border would be an advantage for diagrams. The difficulty is when the white edge is actually part of the image.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:12, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Indeed. And I did raise the issue of diagrams, in comments at the earlier gerrit patch (pointing specifically to en:Insulin and en:Fractal); Jared replied "After looking at the example pages in mobile (with borders+boxes) and and mobile beta borderless+boxless I cannot find an instance where the boxes add to the appearance of the articles rather than detract." So, I believe it is just these edge-cases such as flags, that we need a solution for. (Using tables would not be an acceptable solution, for en:Semantic HTML reasons). Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 17:36, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * +1 for not using a table for this. Helder.wiki 17:48, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I've filed as an enhancement request to support captions on images with the border style. Steven Walling (WMF) &bull;  talk   20:14, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm ambivalent about that workaround. While it avoids compromise on the part of the original design, it both a) makes a significant change to one of the other image behaviours, which might have unforeseen consequences and b) requires users to actively correct the (introduced) problem. Are there problems with removing the borders but retaining the "box"? If not, that might be an interesting alternative. {&#123; Nihiltres &#124;talk&#124;edits}&#125; 15:15, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * How about the next examples? --H-stt (talk) 15:10, 24 July 2014 (UTC)