Extension talk:Page Forms

Unused 'show on select' field gets it's argument name saved
When using the 'show on select' field option, fields never used (hence hiding them) still show up in the saved article. For instance, say the field arg2 stays hidden and never filled out. On saving the article, I still get: |arg1=whatever this was set to |arg2=

Is there a way to keep the |arg2= from showing up in the article? It makes reviewing article source tedious when there are tons of them. Thanks! - Lbillett (talk) 22:49, 24 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Are you using the latest SF version? I thought this problem had been fixed, but I could be wrong. In any case - no, it's not something that can be fixed, other than by changing the PHP code. Yaron Koren (talk) 13:19, 27 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Ah. I'm still on v2.5.1. At least for now, till that queryform bug is worked out. Thanks! - Lbillett (talk) 01:43, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

edit with semantic form automatically
Hi all I have a very large wiki site of about 70,000 pages. I want to make some radical changes in the way the pages look. is there any way to edit all of them automatically via a new form?

Thanks, Asaf

MediaWiki	1.22.0

PHP	5.4.0 (apache)

MySQL	5.0.67-log

Semantic Forms (2.6.1)

Asaf bareket (talk) 07:34, 28 January 2014 (UTC)


 * No - you'd have to use a bot script or something. (Though if it's radical changes you want, I doubt a form would help anyway.) Yaron Koren (talk) 14:03, 28 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the reply. So do you have an idea of how I can work this through? the changes are not so radical... I just want to move the image from side to side and add a couple of templates. Asaf bareket (talk) 14:26, 28 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Forms are probably not what you're looking for. If you just want to display something on every article (and not necessarily change the actual contents of each article) you could output a template on all articles. If you're 'moving' some existing image on each article, the text replace extension might be a big help. You could modify the image attributes by adding "|right" (or whatever you're trying to do). - Lbillett (talk) 14:55, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Ok to Use Separate Forms for Different Templates on Same Article?
I intend(ed) to use articles containing multiple templates and figured I could create different forms to edit these templates. However, if I link to a form specifying a target page in which the target template does not (yet) exist, I get an error message with "Warning: This page already exists, but it does not use this form."

Is there a way to disable this warning? Is it bad 'form' to have multiple templates intended for modification by different forms on the same article? I expect it the warning is being generated because the form didn't find the target template on the already-created page (hence my curiosity about what's proper). Thanks! - Lbillett (talk) 20:46, 28 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Every form that edits a certain page should include the same set of templates, even if the set of fields is different - so for templates that you don't want modified by that form, you should just include a "  ". Yaron Koren (talk) 23:47, 28 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Got it. Didn't catch that intent. Keeps templates saved in right order too! Thanks so much! - Lbillett (talk) 04:20, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Semantic Forms and MW 1.22.2
We have tried SF 2.5.3 and 2.6.1 with MW 1.22.2 and SMW 1.9. There appears to be incompatibility when it comes to support for multiple-instance templates (add multiple). Formlink also seems to be broken. Is SF compatible with MW 1.22.2? Has anyone had success with this setup?

Thanks,

Longphile (talk) 19:04, 3 February 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm not aware of any issues among any of those versions. What's the error you're seeing? If it's a Javascript problem, could you use a Javascript console to see the specific error message? Yaron Koren (talk) 20:25, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm using MW 1.22.2 and SMW 1.9.0.2. I do not seem to have problems with multiple instance templates.  However, my queryformlinks do not seem to work--the links go to the Special:Runquery page, but the visualization never emerges-- it stays "Loading..." Patelmm79 (talk) 20:34, 3 February 2014 (UTC)


 * What visualization is it? And is #queryformlink really the issue? If you go to that same URL without using #queryformlink, does the problem no longer happen? Yaron Koren (talk) 20:38, 3 February 2014 (UTC)


 * So, I tried to copy the URL that queryformlink generates, and paste it into another browser tab-- same problem. The visualization is timeseries, which does successfully work in other parts of the wiki. I did test the specific query that is supposed to generate the timeseries chart, and it does show up correctly.  Patelmm79 (talk) 21:10, 3 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Alright. Well, as above, you should try to look at a Javascript console for the page and see what the error message is, if any. Yaron Koren (talk) 21:34, 3 February 2014 (UTC)


 * So I don't know if I'm doing this correctly, but I added a "debug=true" to the end of the URL, and entered the browser Java console by hitting Ctrl-Alt-J. The only error I can see is "jquery.cookie.js 406 (Not Acceptable)" and a warning that "event.returnValue is deprecated. Please use the standard event.preventDefault instead. ". Patelmm79 (talk) 00:01, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

That 406 error might be the issue, but I don't know anything more than that. Is this viewable on a public wiki, or can you replicate the problem on a public wiki, like http://scratchpad.referata.com ? Yaron Koren (talk) 01:02, 4 February 2014 (UTC)


 * I have another setup with MW 1.21, SF 2.5.3, and SMW 1.8.05 and everything works fine. When I upgraded to SMW 1.9, I was able to reproduce the same problems I saw in my above MW 1.22.2 setup.  The forms show up weird with certain drop downs missing their inputs, adding another template instance does not work, and my HeaderTabs also are not rendered correctly.  DynamicSidebar with GumaxDD was working before but now it does not work either.  Again SF formlinks does not work.  Clicking one directs me to the MainPage rather than opening up FormEdit.  I am wondering if the problems are all related to SMW 1.9 somehow (and not MW version, or SF) and its dependencies.  Could ParamProcessor in Validator be at fault here?  Don't know about it enough to comment.  Longphile (talk) 02:15, 4 February 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm guessing it's one or more Javascript errors responsible for all of these issues - see above. Yaron Koren (talk) 02:37, 4 February 2014 (UTC)


 * For my issue, I have done some debugging and have traced it to Semantic Result Formats (both version 1.8 and 1.9). Removing this seems to fix the issues related to SF, Dynamic Sidebar, and HeaderTabs both in MW 1.21 and MW 1.22.2.  I will post on the SRF discussion board and see if there is any workaround.  Thanks.  Longphile (talk) 04:55, 4 February 2014 (UTC)


 * I have set up a demo from on http://scratchpad.referata.com/wiki/Demo:Timeseries/Seismic_activities. There is a query form link at the top of the page.  The chart is currently produced correctly there, but note that scratchpad is running older versions of MW, SMW, and SRF. Patelmm79 (talk) 15:44, 4 February 2014 (UTC)