Growth/Communities/How to interact with newcomers/sr

The following guide has been created to help experienced users on Wikimedia wikis on how to interact with new users, especially on help desks or on Question-and-Answer (Q&A) pages. It is also relevant for user-to-user interactions, like during a mentorship.

This document gathers best practices from various websites (Wikimedia wikis, other Q&A websites...) and thoughts from Wikimedia experienced users who interact with newcomers. You can learn more about those findings on Phabricator.

Како имати успешну комуникацију

 * Увек будите љубазни, пристојни и стрпљиви, чак и ако новајлије забораве на то.


 * Поздравите корисника/цу и пожелите му/јој добродошлицу


 * Be sure that you understand the question asked. Don't try to guess what the problem is. Asking for clarifications may be appropriate, they may help you provide a more accurate answer. "What do you try to do?" is a good question to ask if you don't understand a question.


 * Check which editor the newcomer uses (2010 wikitext, visual, mobile, 2017 wikitext...), and provide a reply for that editor. Asking the user to use an editor they don't know will be a burden for them.


 * Know your limits: sometimes you won't know how to reply, especially in areas that are technical or out of your favorite topics. Feel free to ask for help from other users who are more experienced in certain areas. If the message is posted on your user talk page and you need time to write a reply, add a short message to see that you will reply later.


 * Be honest: if the request is not realistic or doable on your wiki, or generally off-topic, say so and explain why. For example, it may not be productive for the newcomer to work on content that may be deleted in only a few days. But explaining why the content can be deleted can help the newcomer to avoid future problems. Invite the newcomer to work on something else instead.


 * Newcomers may be angry or frustrated at your wiki because of a variety of reasons. Their complaints are most likely not against you personally. Keep calm and try to understand their situation.


 * If it becomes clear that the discussion is going nowhere, close it politely.


 * Have fun! Don't approach helping newcomers as a burden. If you don't have time to follow through with a request, or just aren't in the mood, then let another helper handle the request instead.


 * Watch other mentors' talk pages. Notify other mentors if you plan to be offline, so that they can take care of your page while you are away from the wikis.

Како саставити добре одговоре

 * Објасните
 * Don't point to documentation first, explain the process instead. An answer is better than linking to the answer, even if it is only one sentence followed by a link. Quote important information from other pages you link. It avoids forcing people to read many long pages.
 * Example: “To add an image, you’ll need to upload it to a different website called Wikimedia Commons.  Then you can place it in your article. It’s a little confusing, so read this link carefully.”


 * Дајте следеће кораке
 * Leave replies that tell the person what to do next. Don't just answer the specific question.


 * Уоличите
 * Reply to questions asked, because they are specific; avoid general replies. Provide examples.


 * Нека ствари буду једноставне
 * Избегавајте жаргоне и акрониме. Можете да их уводите постепено, повезивањем. Избегавајте преоптерећивање новајлије информацијама које нису у вези с њиховим питањима.


 * Будите водич
 * For instance, if someone asks how to add an image on a new article, but the action that person should take first is to add sources, tell them to add sources first (and how to), and promise that you will explain how to add an image later.


 * Направите разговор
 * Ask the newcomer a question to try to engage them in conversation.
 * For instance, if they ask, “Is it possible for me to write a new article on Wikipedia?”, you can say, “Yes, you can write a new article on Wikipedia, but that’s one of the hardest kinds of edits to do.  What do you want to write your article about? Maybe there are some easier tasks you can try related to your interests, and then you’ll learn the skills you need to write the article.”


 * Помените га/је
 * Уверите се да новајлија сазна за одговор, било којим начином. На пример, на страницама за разговоре помените корисника/цу када му/јој одговарате.


 * Објасните како одговорити
 * Many newcomers don’t understand how to use talk pages, so you can include something like, “To reply to my message, click to Edit the page, then write your message under mine.  Then publish the page.” They don’t need to understand indentation or signatures yet. You can teach them that in your next reply, maybe by using a template.


 * Пратите
 * If possible, follow up on the request by checking back later: the newcomer may ask about something else, or need further clarification. Newcomers may reply unexpected way: they may not understand how to reply, how to add their signature or how to ping a user.
 * When you explain something, ask the newcomer if your answer has helped them. The newcomer will feel more welcomed and you will get some information to improve your experience. If the conversation ends, remind to the newcomer that you're still available if needed.


 * Напишите одговор
 * Say hello!
 * If possible, respond in a reasonable time. Newcomers many not log in often or may not have email notifications enabled. They may not be accustomed to a community like Wikimedia, where discussions can sometimes involve users from many time zones. Check back in the forum occasionally for any questions that have gone unanswered for 24 hours.
 * Pay attention to how you reply; check your spelling.

Explain, or do the change myself?
One of the goals is to help newcomers who struggle with the interface or markup. It may sometimes be easier to make very complicated edits yourself instead of explaining how to do so. That's the case for multi-step processes and complex wiki-syntax. Be honest and tell the newcomer that it is a complicated edit "even for an experienced user". But explain the steps you've been through so they can learn and reproduce them afterwards.

Make your choice based on your own experience and your discussions with other helpers. But it is often more rewarding for a newcomer to understand what to do and apply it themselves, rather than having it done for them. Teaching is less efficient in the short term, but increases editor-retention in the long term.

Rely on other community members
Operating a dedicated help forum is a collective project. It depends on a wide range of helpers. All have individual strengths and weaknesses, as well as a finite amount of available time and energy.

Coordinate with other helpers to share your experience and best practices. Be open to advice from other helpers when they offer it.

Take care of the other people who reply with you. Thank and guide people who try to help. Thank people who help a lot.

Don't forget to keep the community informed of your efforts; it will help to recruit new helpers.

Примери
Ево неколико хипотетичких примера који се заснивају на уобичајеним одговорима пронађеним на неколико различитих језичких издања Википедије.

Како могу да додам слику коју имам на рачунару у чланак?


 * Погледајте ову страницу помоћи на којој се налази водич.
 * Погледајте ову страницу помоћи на којој се налази водич.


 * Здраво! Свако може да редистрибуира информације са Википедије. Поштујемо законе о ауторским правима, па не можемо прихватити сваку слику — зависи од теме и творца. Који чланак желите да илуструјете? Јесте ли творац слике коју желите да користите? Ако нисте, да ли неко други има ауторско право над том сликом?
 * Здраво! Свако може да редистрибуира информације са Википедије. Поштујемо законе о ауторским правима, па не можемо прихватити сваку слику — зависи од теме и творца. Који чланак желите да илуструјете? Јесте ли творац слике коју желите да користите? Ако нисте, да ли неко други има ауторско право над том сликом?

Чланак ми је избрисан и то је срамотно!


 * Сами сте криви: требало је да прво прочитате странице помоћи. Сада знате да на Википедији не можете радити све што пожелите, а посебно да промовишете тему коју сте одабрали.
 * Сами сте криви: требало је да прво прочитате странице помоћи. Сада знате да на Википедији не можете радити све што пожелите, а посебно да промовишете тему коју сте одабрали.


 * Здраво! Жао ми је што сте имали то лоше искуство. На основу доступних информација, изгледа да чланак који сте израдили није садржао ниједан извор. Чланци на Википедији темеље се на објављеним изворима, тако да читаоци могу да верификују информације. То је највећи проблем с Вашим чланком. Нисам нашао ниједан извор о датој теми док сам тражио по објављеним изворима. Имате ли изворе које можемо да искористимо? Ако такви извори не постоје, можда је прерано да Википедија има чланак о датој теми.
 * Здраво! Жао ми је што сте имали то лоше искуство. На основу доступних информација, изгледа да чланак који сте израдили није садржао ниједан извор. Чланци на Википедији темеље се на објављеним изворима, тако да читаоци могу да верификују информације. То је највећи проблем с Вашим чланком. Нисам нашао ниједан извор о датој теми док сам тражио по објављеним изворима. Имате ли изворе које можемо да искористимо? Ако такви извори не постоје, можда је прерано да Википедија има чланак о датој теми.