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'''You want to try Flow on your wiki? It is possible!'''

All pages on all Wikimedia Foundation supported projects are eligible, in time.

See also Flow/Rollout for a list of wikis that are using or discussing Flow, and more technical details.

For a community
It is possible to try Flow on your wiki.

The most common trials are, at the moment: Flow deployment needs a community decision. Please follow the three steps:
 * Flow on one trial/sandbox page (default activation),
 * Flow on real-working community pages (help desk, wikiproject, village pump...),
 * Flow activation for all users on at their demand (Beta feature).

1. Community discussions
How to: If your wiki has already enabled Flow as a Beta feature for all users and you want to deploy Flow on a wikiproject or a community page, go to step 3 and fill out a community request with a link to the community consensus to have that page activated.
 * 1) Start a discussion with the community, to get consensus on starting the trial. You can ask to have a test page or use that one.
 * 2) Discuss about the possible deployments (test, community page(s), Beta feature...).   It's good to discuss where the community wishes to trial Flow after that. We recommend to have a real-working environment, e.g. a helpdesk, or village pump, or a wikiproject, or similar...
 * 3) After consensus is reached, add a link below to the community result and the link(s) to the page(s) you want Flow on.

2. Technical details to consider
For the first use of Flow at a wiki, the developers need this information: You will have to check for translations in the language(s) used in your wiki : If you have all this ready or done, please add the relevant information below. You can fill a Phrabricator task if you want (with #Flow tag).
 * If any, the exact name of the local discussion & feedback page, e.g. Wikipedia_talk:Flow or Discussion_Wikipédia:Flow. However, we recommend to use the global feedback page at mw:Talk:Flow where you can post in any language.
 * The exact name of a "sandbox" page, where the community would like to test out Flow, e.g. Flow/Sandbox or Viquipèdia_Discussió:Flow/proves, useful for trials and check for translations
 * What word to use for the "Topic" namespace and check if that name is not used (it is possible to archive old contents)
 * Tell us the local standard (most common) page-archive naming system(s), so that we can try to follow the local custom. E.g. ".../Archive 1" or ".../Archiwum/1" or ".../Archives/2013/July".
 * the documentation (that page first),
 * Flow interface messages on TranslateWiki (the many MediaWiki:Apihelp-... messages can be safely ignored).
 * If you consider to convert a whole namespace to Flow for good, please check that list.

3. Community requests
Please list it here:


 * Community consensus for Polish Wikipedia, here. Tar Lócesilion (queta) 23:21, 6 March 2016 (UTC) - Phabricator task
 * Pending: community discussion still ongoing. Trizek (WMF) (talk) 13:48, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Community consensus for Odia Wikipedia is here. (Related Phabricator task: T110846)--Jnanaranjan sahu (talk) 09:12, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Seems like there is consensus on Norwegian (bokmål) Wikipedia for turning on the beta function. Configuration in T132693.Jeblad (talk) 14:43, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
 * We're creating a new project on fr.wikipedia to explore the possiblity of WP:TWA adaptation. We would need Flow on fr:Discussion Projet:Wikipédia, l'aventure . --Dereckson (talk) 13:05, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Pinging other interested project participants to validate the consensus for this request: User:Rama, User:Trizek. --Dereckson (talk) 13:05, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * go for it, Trizek (talk) 13:08, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Please do, and thanks a bunch! Rama (talk) 13:11, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ Trizek (WMF) (talk) 13:13, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Request from ar.wp to have two communitiy pages converted to Flow - 12 August. ✅

Reach community consensus first!
You can start a discussion on your wiki to get community consensus to have Flow on test pages, or individual pages. Please see the #For a community section above before adding a request if your wiki does not have community consensus.

Check first if your wiki has Flow available as a Beta feature.

Requests for wikis which have reached consensus
Requests for Catalan WP, French WP & WKT, Hebrew WP, Persian WP, Arabic WP, Urdu WP, Kabyle WP only.


 * 1) On fr wikipedia please Louis GP gouter (talk) 16:00, 12 March 2016 (UTC)✅
 * https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Lev._Anthony Could you please add Flow on my Talk page please?✅
 * 1) W:ar:usertalk:ziad --Ziad (talk) 22:15, 15 April 2016 (UTC) ✅
 * 2) On WP:fr please Queix (talk) 15:44, 9 May 2016 (UTC) ✅
 * user talk:doror on he.wiki. Doror (talk) 17:11, 13 June 2016 (UTC) ✅
 * 1) User:MohammadtheEditor on fa:w Thanks MohammadtheEditor (talk) 06:42, 6 July 2016 (UTC) ✅
 * 2) w:zh:User talk:A2569875/Flow on zhwiki, please!!!! I want to KEEP old user talk page, so I want put the Flow page in another page. Can you help me put the Flow page in this page?  --宇帆(留言·[//facebook.com/messages/100002851091331 聯] 絡) 06:26, 22 July 2016 (UTC) ✅
 * 3) w:zh:User talk:Wolfch/Flow on zhwiki. I also want to KEEP old user talk page, Can you help me put the Flow page in w:zh:User talk:Wolfch/Flow ? Thanks--Wolfch (talk) 15:13, 26 July 2016 (UTC) ✅
 * user talk:TZivyA On hewiki. tnx TZivyA (talk) 10:20, 5 August 2016 (UTC) ✅
 * 1) w:zh:User talk:金坷垃播种者/Flow on zhwiki. I also want to KEEP old user talk page.Can you help me put the Flow page in w:zh:User talk:金坷垃播种者/Flow? Thanks.  金坷垃播种者 (talk) 08:09, 9 August 2016 (UTC) ✅
 * 2)  w:ar:ويكيبيديا:سجل الزوار on ar.wikipedia, Thanks.--جار الله (talk) 22:10, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Stalled requests for other wikis, awaiting community consensus
Your wiki has not decided or reach a consensus about using Flow. Please see the section above before adding a request.
 * 1) Wittylama (talk) 20:09, 29 July 2015 (UTC) on en.wp.
 * 2) For now, on talk pages on plwiki, commonswiki, if possible. Kszapsza  (dyskusja ) 12:18, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
 * 3) User:Halibutt @ pl wiki please. Halibutt (talk) 11:44, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 * 4) Nirmos (talk) @ svwiki
 * 5) User:Nizil Shah (talk) at w:gu
 * 6) User:Мұхамеджан Амангелді at w:kk
 * 7) Ash Crow - w:br:, s:fr:, s:br:, c:, d:
 * 8) Tar Lócesilion  pl:
 * 9) Jay8g (talk): en WP, Commons
 * 10) KartikMistry (talk) - at w:Gu:
 * 11) Josve05a (talk) (when possible) on sv.wp, en.wp, Commons
 * 12) Edgars2007 (talk) at Latvian Wikipedia
 * 13) Rzuwig ► 11:51, 1 August 2015 (UTC) - commons
 * 14) Lazowik (talk)  pl
 * 15) QuimGil (talk) at Commons
 * 16) Yann (talk) at Commons
 * 17) Yodaspirine oncommons, fr.wikisource--Yodaspirine (talk) 14:52, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
 * 18) Shizhao on Commons
 * 19) Mbch331 (talk) 13:17, 3 October 2015 (UTC) on nlwiki and commons
 * 20) TomT0m (talk) 09:40, 6 October 2015 (UTC) on en.wp
 * 21) Shani Evenstein Esh77 (talk) 10:02, 30 September 2015 (UTC) - at en, outreach, meta
 * 22) Nbfreeh on wuu.wikipedia
 * 23) Billytanghh on en.wikipedia, thanks.--Billytanghh (talk) 13:15, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
 * 24) User:Medium69 on Commons please. --Medium69 (talk) 22:36, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * 25) User:Taiwania Justo: meta, please. Taiwania Justo (talk) 00:17, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
 * 26) User:Almondega on pt:w and wikidata, please. :)
 * 27) User:فلورانس on fa:w and fa.voy, Thanks --فلورانس (talk) 23:11, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
 * 28) Ochilov - talk pages in ruwiki, eowiki, metawiki. -- Ochilov   (talk)  16:45, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Karol Szapsza (plwiki) — Karol Szapsza  (talk ) 16:16, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * User:Doror UnFlow. he.wikipedia. i don't like the Flow. Doror (talk) 15:55, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * User:Taiwania Justo: please active flow in commons, outreach (new request, Taiwania Justo (talk) 04:13, 29 July 2016 (UTC)) and meta. Taiwania Justo (talk) 05:25, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
 * It is already possible on Outreach, as a Beta feature. Trizek (WMF) (talk) 09:15, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Temporary parking
please remove flow from help desk page. this extension is new and made confuse newbiesYamaha5 (talk) 13:16, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * It seems Flow has some bugs for Persian language (mostly easy bugs) I will report them all. Please remove flow from help desk to fix bugs and we will bring it back once the bugs are solved. Ladsgroup (talk) 14:10, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, I've moved the help desk page back. Are you concerned about the way that the header templates looked when they were copied into the side rail? I think the big template with the blue header is using a fixed width, and it didn't play well in the smaller space. I'm sorry, I should have spotted that and asked you about the template before I enabled Flow. Let me know what I can do. DannyH (WMF) (talk) 18:23, 10 September 2015 (UTC)


 * 1) I should say my talk page on,  and here are have Special:TranslatorSignup enabled, is this will be affected? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:34, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey Liuxinyu970226, I've transferred your message here. Trizek (WMF) (talk) 08:59, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

What will happen?
Flow will be deployed as soon as possible on the requested page(s) and on a feedback page (usually WP:Flow in the local language). You will receive a notification when it is done.

The previous talk page will be archived, and Flow will be alive on your page!

Caveats
Note: You may miss some automated messages until the bot-writers adopt Flow (see T107093 and related tasks). See further notes at T98270 ("Opt-in for Flow on your own user talk page")

Data
Between Wikimania 2015 (07/13 - 07/19) and end of September, you've been 55 to request Flow on your personal talk pages. Thank you!

At the moment, there is a community consensus and active boards on users talk pages on the following projects: Catalan Wikipedia (4), French Wikipedia (22) & WKT (0), Hebrew Wikipedia (6), Mediawiki.org (33), Persian Wikipedia (1), and Wikidata (9). (Figures are the number of requests and activation based on this page.) We also notice some requests for wikis where the consensus has not been reached, like Commons (9), Polish Wikipedia (3) or English Wikipedia (2).

Flow will be available as a beta feature soon (T98270). We plan to track the activation automatically (T114111).