Thread:Talk:Technical communications/Dev wiki consolidation/Where to draw the line/reply (10)

Why do you assume contributors and developers are different people? Why do you assume bot operators cannot also be third-party sysadmins, and that neither of those will be developers? Such are often developers. Even when they aren't, the development stuff is useful - you need to know what you're installing, and extensions are just as relevant as the api documentation when writing a bot, because you have to know the framework, and if the framework is lacking, that's when a bot person turns into a developer as well.

And that, I thought, was precisely why it's all here - because these things are all connected. It's organised such that there are resources friendly to users, but such that they can find more information and follow relevant development as well if they want to, and visa versa. Labs was mostly separate for security reasons or something along with the whole labs part not being specific to mediawiki, and wikitech was this internal thing specific to the WMF that everyone else just sort of ignored. So if mediawiki things are truly to be split (sure, they're already split, but I mean such that the rest of us notice), that would just make what is where more confusing. To expect most folks to not ignore one or the other would be about as ridiculous as expecting en.wikipedians to come to mw.org for information about new features (and that is completely ridiculous, in case you were wondering - 'insane' or 'suicidal' would be terms for it), because there is simply no good way to watch multiple wikis or coordinate across them - and for something like this, why should there be? Is mw.org getting too big or something?