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Preguntes generals

 * Què és EditorVisual?
 * EditorVisual és una iniciativa de desenvolupament de programari de la Fundació Wikimedia que permetrà modificar les pàgines d'un lloc web propulsat per MediaWiki sense haver d'aprendre la sintaxi wikitext. Amb EditorVisual, es podrà donar format a les pàgines d'una manera molt similar a la dels processadors de text. Mentre es facin les modificacions, la pàgina tindrà pràcticament el mateix aspecte que quan ja s'hagi desat.


 * Per què s'està fent aquest canvi?
 * La sintaxi tan complexa del codi wiki emprat a l'antiga finestra de modificacions és la barrera més gran per fer la primera modificació, i per tant la barrera més gran per començar el camí que podria portar algú a esdevenir un membre productiu i expert de la comunitat de contribuïdors. Per fer créixer el nombre de casos d'èxit en els primers intents de fer modificacions, ens cal un sistema de modificació que sigui millor. Per a més detalls, llegiu la nostra explicació més extensa.


 * On he d'anar per saber-ne més de com s'utilitza l'EditorVisual?
 * Vegeu la Guia d'usuari d'EditorVisual.


 * Quan s'habilitarà l'EditorVisual al meu wiki?
 * El calendari actual de desplegaments futurs és a VisualEditor/Rollouts. Durant el 2013, més de la meitat de les Wikipèdies van rebre l'EditorVisual com a opció per a tots els usuaris. L'EditorVisual és disponible com a característica beta d'alta voluntària per a gairebé tots els usuaris registrats de tots els projectes de la Fundació Wikimedia.


 * Per què esteu desplegant el programa quan encara no s'ha acabat de desenvolupar?
 * S'han d'afegir característiques al programa i se n'han de resoldre els problemes. Però, al cap i a la fi, la millor manera de detectar els errors i d'identificar les característiques que hi manquen és que hi hagi com més persones millor utilitzant el programa i potinejant-hi. Encara que sabem que els errors de programari són un obstacle a curt termini, tenim pensat corregir-los i l'ús és la manera de saber què hem de corregir.


 * He trobat un problema amb l'EditorVisual. Com us puc demanar que el resolgueu?
 * Si voleu i podeu, informeu-ne a Phabricator, al producte "VisualEditor". La majoria de les Wikipèdies grans també contenen una pàgina destinada als comentaris sobre l'EditorVisual; vegeu-ne la llista a Wikidata. També hi ha una pàgina central de comentaris a MediaWiki.org.


 * How do I disable VisualEditor?
 * To continue to edit the wikitext directly, simply click the "" button instead of "". On section edit links, you can open the classic wikitext editor for that section by clicking "" instead of the regular "" link. On wikis where VisualEditor is still a Beta Feature, you can simply uncheck its box in the Beta tab of your Preferences; on the other wikis, you can check the Temporarily disable VisualEditor while it is in beta box from the Editing tab instead.


 * A feature is missing in VisualEditor. How do I ask you to add it?
 * Some features are currently being developed or planned. The Roadmap, the Wikimedia Engineering goals pages for 2015–2016 and the Phabricator workboard provide some additional information as well. If you can't find any reference to the new feature you'd like to suggest, please submit it using the same process used to report an issue.


 * Will it still be possible to edit using wikitext after VisualEditor becomes the primary editing interface?
 * Yes. While VisualEditor will eventually be offered to all users by default, a method for editing the underlying “source” text will continue to exist. There are no plans to remove wikitext editing.


 * Can I use familiar wikimarkup like  and  in VisualEditor?
 * No. Currently, those shortcuts will trigger the link and the template tool respectively. If you use wikimarkup in the article, a warning message will appear. See VisualEditor User guide for more about how to use VisualEditor.


 * Why is my browser not supported?
 * Building a modern editing interface for Wikipedia and its sister wiki is a technical challenge, but it's possible using modern web technologies and standards. Unfortunately, some browsers don't support many of the features we need for VisualEditor. We're doing our best to support the most common browsers: VisualEditor works well with recent versions of the most popular web browsers: Firefox 15 and up; Iceweasel 10 and up; Safari 7 and up; Chrome 19 and up; Opera 15 and up; Microsoft Internet Explorer 10 and up; Edge 12 and up.  In some browsers, such as Internet Explorer 9, a warning message will still show up, but users shouldn't experience any major problems editing. Trying to work around the limitations of older browsers would divert resources from improvements that would benefit the majority of users. We encourage you to upgrade to a supported browser and, if you can't, to continue to edit using the source wikitext editor. (See target browser matrix for specific details.)


 * Does VisualEditor work with Wikisource's ProofreadPage, or Wiktionary's templates, and other features that Wikipedia doesn't have?
 * VisualEditor is flexible enough to be adapted to all Wikimedia sites. However, Wiktionary's heavy reliance on templates will require significant work by community members to provide TemplateData to their users, and Wikisource's ProofreadPage tool will require some additional work to integrate VisualEditor smoothly.


 * Can I install VisualEditor on my personal wiki outside Wikimedia?
 * Yes, at your own risk. VisualEditor and Parsoid extensions are available for download but they're still experimental; note that Parsoid requires nodeJS. If you do install and use them, please let us know what worked and what didn't in Phabricator.


 * Does VisualEditor make automatic fixes to pages?
 * In most cases, VisualEditor will not make changes to formatting on lines that are not being directly edited. In cases where markup already on the page is handled incorrectly (for example, with tables that are not closed), it may attempt to correct these.


 * Will the visual editor be enabled on talk pages?
 * ​No. This question comes up quite often.
 * The visual editor is designed to edit content, plain pages of text.
 * Talk pages aren't content. Many of the tools and design patterns that make VE nice to use to edit content make it poor to use for discussions. ​
 * To make it usable for discussions, we would have to remove or break many of those patterns in VE. We have spent a lot of time researching with users what works best there.
 * VE can't deal with structured discussions and plain-text discussions are not structured discussions.
 * Discussions like they are on traditional talk pages are not structured discussions from a technical perspective, despite the fact there is a certain number of colons or bullet points added to each answer to provide a pseudo-structure. With the current design of classical discussions, a piece of software can't know who has replied to whom – only humans can. There is no real connection between posts (which post is the parent/child of which), which is the definition of a structured discussion.
 * At the moment Flow deals with structured discussions. In Flow, each post is independent with a unique ID, linked to other posts and to a Topic (also with a unique ID), with a specific history, and all posts can be targeted precisely. It would be possible in the future to have conversations at multiple places, to move topics or replies, and to create sub-discussions with Flow. Classical talk pages, using VE or not, do not allow that.


 * My question isn't here. Where do I ask?
 * You can ask on the VisualEditor feedback page on your wiki (see the list on Wikidata) or on the central feedback page on mediawiki.org.

Community resources

 * Where can I read more about what communities can do to adapt the visual editor to their sites?
 * You can find a sort of "checklist" here on mediawiki.org.


 * Where can I find people experienced in this kind of effort?
 * There is a list of names at Community Taskforce.