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Wikipedia traffic

 * http://stats.wikimedia.org/archive/squid_reports/2012-03/SquidReportCountryData.htm
 * shows much higher traffic from Android browsers than iOS browsers in almost all countries
 * this requires further analysis and may be misleading
 * another related analysis by device type reveals this:
 * 54.7% iOS
 * 25.8% Android
 * 5.7% BlackBerry
 * 3.6% Symbian + Nokia phones without further specification


 * http://stats.wikimedia.org/archive/squid_reports/2012-03/SquidReportUserAgents.htm
 * shows that estimated app traffic from iOS is higher than Android, but app traffic is 40%, while browser traffic is 60% of mobile traffic


 * http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportClients.htm
 * shows Safari mobile browser traffic at 5.12% and Android mobile browser traffic at 2.84% of total traffic


 * Overall, it seems that iOS traffic is greater than Android traffic when it comes to Wikipedia overall.

Other data

 * http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events/Presentations_Whitepapers/2012/2012_Mobile_Future_in_Focus
 * slide 21 shows in top 5 EU countries, Android is 31.2%, Symbian is 29.9%, iOS is 20.7% as of end 2011
 * strongly suggests that Symbian is the second priority in Europe (presumably S60)
 * slide 20 shows in the US that Android is 47%, iOS is 30% as of end 2011


 * Overall, suggests that Android is dominant in the US and Europe, and in Europe iOS is behind Symbian.

Android or iPhone app?
Subject: Your thoughts about a mobile app (Update -	Feedback needed) Newsgroups: gmane.org.wikimedia.wikilovesmonuments Date: 2012-04-26 06:30:41 GMT (4 days, 12 hours and 29 minutes ago) Hello,
 * From: elya

returning to the mobile app discussion, I'd like to share some ideas/perspectives and receive your opinions about those.

Timewise, we will need to concentrate on one OS - Android or iOS. One more or less simple option would be modifying the Upload Wizard for mobile use - which would exclude iOS at the moment for technical reasons.

Another approach would be a native app either for Android OR iOS (in our timeframe).

QUESTIONS: camera quality or online involvement of target group for either OS?
 * which one would be the preferred platform for us?
 * What are the market shares in your country/region?
 * Which other arguments for one or another platform are helpful - i.e.

Responses
This are the most updated stats I found, but it would be awesome to find something more detailed (per country). http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/15/gartner-q4-2011-apple-android-smartphone/
 * From: Andrea Zanni

I think that Android would be better from a communication point of view (is sort-of open source), but i don't know about the quality of cameras (I fear iPhones' are better most other's).

In Poland Android smarthphones and tablets are much more popular than Apple's ones, mainly due to price and higher number of localised apps. Regarding camera - picture taken by smartphones - no mater if Apple or Android based - won't be of high quality anyway...
 * From: Tomasz Ganicz

I second Andrea's thought. In general I value highly the quotes-openness-quotes of Android, but I think we should reach the vastest possible audience. Something maybe simple but for both would be the best choice, IMHO.
 * From: Cristian Consonni

I'll try to find some stats about smartphones in Italy.

Here's a nice PDF[1] with data for US, JAP and UK, FRANCE, GERMANY, ITALY and SPAIN
 * From: Cristian Consonni

It's free (as in beer), but to download it you have to fill a form with your data.

According to that[1][pag. 22] smartphones in Italy are mostly equipped with Symbian (52.8%), followed by Android (17.9%) and iOS (15.8%). This last two are rising (especially Android)

A friend pointed me to this chart[2], too (please note the "Raise of the Droids" :P).

HTH,

Cristian

[1]http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events/Presentations_Whitepapers/2012/2012_Mobile_Future_in_Focus [2]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:World-Wide-Smartphone-Market-Share.png

It's difficult to find reliable recent smartphone market share studies for France, but it looks like Android-phones are now more popular than iPhones, thanks to Free Mobile. Per Wikipedia, Android is also the most popular worldwide. camera quality or online involvement of target group for either OS? Camera quality is good (for a smartphone) on iPhone, and ranges from very poor to really good on 'Droid phones. I don't have stats about online involvment of Apple fanboys vs Google maniacs, but I guess both have very active fansites which could relay the announcements...
 * From: Sylvain Boissel
 * What are the market shares in your country/region?
 * Which other arguments for one or another platform are helpful - i.e.

I agree with Andrea's point regarding the openness of Android.


 * From: WereSpielChequers

We are part of the open source community. Android is licensed under the Apache open source license and therefore we should prefer Android unless iOS moves to an open license.

My thinking behind this was:

If both operating systems were equally open then we should strive to be neutral when dealing with multiple commercial outfits (If we can't deploy apps for both at the same time then we should prioritise by transparent criteria).

According to Wikipedia Android has the larger market share, and all other things being equal that would be a good reason to prioritise it.

According to Wikipedia Android is gaining market share, and all other things being equal that would be two good reasons to prioritise it. (More people will use it and as newer phones tend to have better cameras as we can hope for better quality images).

There are other operating systems out there, and in my view we should either be idealistically committing to support all of them or compromise on all that achieve a certain marketshare, or be practical and plan to support all that achieve a certain marketshare of phones with higher quality cameras.

Clearly phone camera quality has improved by a huge margin in the last decade or so, does anyone know if there are technical limitations that will prevent it eventually catching up with cameras?


 * From: André Costa

It's probably worth taking into account how difficult it is to get the app onto the official app platform or how much of a bureaucratic time delay this would entail. From what I've heard it's easier to get things into the Android Marketplace but I've got no data supporting this.

It might also be worth considering whether people involved in uploading images for Wikipedia (the target audience for the app) will actually reflect national averages concerning mobile phone operating systems. It's all very good developing an app that is usable to 75% of a nation's population, if most of our audience belong to the remaining 25% though...