User:Sharihareswara (WMF)/archivedectmeetings Apr2013

Misc reminders

 * Reminder of Wikimedia technical search tool http://hexm.de/mw-search
 * There's a way to enable this in your preferences as search in mediawiki.org
 * today's skins triage https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Triage/20130402
 * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_report/2013/March

Mentorship

 * Still can make it as GSOC/OPW project idea:
 * http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects#Improve_the_mediawiki-bugzilla_extension_to_a_deployable_level (Mozilla + Andre?)
 * I am happy to provide support but I don't see myself suddenly as a coder or reviewer. :) -- andre
 * Still can make it as OPW specific project ideas:
 * http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects#Browser_Test_Automation (Željko)
 * http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects#A_proper_catalog_of_extensions (Yuri Katkov)
 * http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects#Multilingual.2C_usable_and_effective_captchas (research only?)
 * http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects#System_documentation_integrated_in_source_code (does Platform want research on this? mentor?)
 * Also thinking of revamping http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_hub and main related pages. Mentor: could be Quim.
 * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_developer_hub

Amsterdam hackathon prep

 * Anything to do?
 * Outreach for more signups by 20 April?
 * WMF sprints/trainings?
 * Quim & Sumana to think about performance & Lua stuff with Rachel

High-priority escalations?
There are 3 that Andre has considered important in the last few days. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=46428,46401,46612 this weekend, we had 3 outages, and we need to improve communication around outages, Andre says. 2 of 3 were jobqueue-related.
 * bug 46428 - memcache split, blocks several other items
 * 46401, patch awaiting review
 * the http 500 error bugs
 * Rob to check out these escalations
 * where were they documented?
 * Etherpad for TechOps meeting yesterday, and short ops mailing list thread
 * * Recent Outages
 * ** 2013-03-28, Thursday - 19:40-19:43 GMT
 * ** 2013-03-29, Friday 05:00 GMT
 * ** 2013-03-31, Sunday - 21.20 GMT
 * *** LVS - fix kernel leak / upgrade kernel ?


 * Asher put in a jobqueue limit queue


 * RobLa to ask Greg to follow up

Vacations/holidays
me Andre: Texas Linux Fest: deadline April 1st - http://2013.texaslinuxfest.org/, Valerie! Željko: Chris:
 * Sumana part of tomorrow + part of Thursday
 * Guillaume out this week
 * a few days around Amsterdam (May 24th)
 * maybe Open Source Bridge Conference, Portland, June 18–21, 2013
 * maybe https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_contribute/Presentation ?
 * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Events/FOSDEM/2013_-_Lightning_-_Qgil
 * May 24-26, Wikimedia Hackathon, Amsterdam, Netherlands
 * June 10-12, Selenium Conference, Boston, MA, USA
 * Submitted talks/workshops for a couple of local open source conferences, waiting for reply (May 15-17, September 06-07)
 * Apr 22-25 (Google Test Automation Conference, NYC)
 * May 2-5 (Telerik Test Summit Peer Conference, Austin TX)
 * May 13-17 relocating, details TBD
 * May 24-26, Wikimedia Hackathon, Amsterdam, Netherlands
 * Aug 4-10 Agile2013 (not certain but likely)

Monthly report summary
Where else should we be publicizing this? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_report/2013/March/summary
 * send it to wikitech-ambassadors
 * it's already in the WMF-wide report

High-priority escalations

 * RobLa, were you able to ask Greg to follow up re outage incident reports?
 * Greg will not have it as a high urgent priority, but in the long run it is important. RobLa to talk to Greg.
 * Andre, anything new?
 * Nothing really urgent
 * some thumbnail cache purging issues again: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46976 (pinged on IRC, email to ops@)
 * https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=46836,46834 not urgent but waiting for attention / assignee (FlaggedRevs, ResLoader)
 * Localisation update problem may still be an issue right now

Best practices for community events

 * using #wikimedia-office - preferred to #wikimedia-dev, less noisy
 * greeting every person who shows up (check hostmask for possible regulars versus newbies)
 * what kinds of promotion have been effective? ambassadors list? emailing specific interested people?
 * can we let people subscribe to something so we can send a notification back?
 * Ask Alex Monk/Krenair re Echo
 * BZ - ping reporters. We have a magic URL for "YOUR reports"
 * specific steps & tasks

Followups

 * Filling in Platform & Ops in QA amenability spreadsheet
 * https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Agte_lJNpi-OdGpJSHdMZV83UjdTdHc5UFVrdXBwaWc#gid=0
 * The way we handle unit testing in Platform is different enough from other bits that priority will not be very useful for that - it's up to dev teams to do the bulk of the work on unit testing; Antoine provides generalized infrastructure. In Platform, we should focus activities on the first 3 columns.
 * Chris to publish QA work-in-progress and/or roadmap to PMs (etc.) based on this doc. (Greg does a similar thing, speaking with him about ways&means)
 * Chris to publish "when to bring in QA" guide/best practice/outline. (See FYI below?)
 * Bugzilla admin rights
 * have some been removed? what's the policy re NDA?
 * Andre has removed some (24 -> 18), still on it, been on the backburner. Policy: Not started yet.

Wikimania
April 30th is the submission deadline; What shall we submit?
 * https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions
 * Quim & Andre each to submit a standalone thing? Maybe merge them into 1 ECT "state of the union"?  Single session is nicer to the organizers

FYI
Quim wants to organize a couple of surveys:
 * Quantitative and mostly "external": best timings and channels for QA activities.
 * Qualitative and mostly WMF: best ways for QA activities to contribute to development efforts.
 * Qualtrics

Vacations/holidays
me Andre: Željko: Chris:
 * Sumana offline of today + morning Wednesday + part of Thursday
 * Guillaume out for probably a few days this week
 * a few days around Amsterdam (May 24th)
 * maybe Open Source Bridge Conference, Portland, June 18–21, 2013
 * May 24-26, Wikimedia Hackathon, Amsterdam, Netherlands
 * June 10-12, Selenium Conference, Boston, MA, USA
 * Submitted talks/workshops for a couple of local open source conferences, waiting for reply (May 15-17, September 06-07)
 * maybe August 14-18, JRubyConf (August 14-15) + European Ruby Camp (August 16-18), both in Berlin, Germany
 * Apr 22-25 (Google Test Automation Conference, NYC)
 * May 2-5 (Telerik Test Summit Peer Conference, Austin TX)
 * May 13-17 relocating, details TBD
 * May 24-26, Wikimedia Hackathon, Amsterdam, Netherlands
 * Aug 4-10 Agile2013 (not certain but likely)

GSoC/OPW
Signal-to-noise is good. We're pushing new people to useful pages right away and there are mentors around and students are getting mentors' respect. GSoC looks good. OPW - we have requests, mostly overlapping with GSoC. Greg to consider mentoring a release manager intern
 * Aayush251 would like to submit browser test automation project for GSOC; Quim will reply
 * rachel99 is interested in browser test automation project for OPW

High-priority escalations
seems stable Andre/Greg Monday meetings help

Weekly Bugzilla report
Guillaume: any weekly tech summary ought to link to weekly BZ summary. Don't include all of it, but definitely link & perhaps decide on 1 or 2 most-relevant metrics to include
 * can Quim and/or Andre add the numbers that Quim sent to wikitech to the script?
 * Is that about total number of tickets excl. enh && lowest? It's on andre's todo list, but if anybody feels like hacking PHP and SQL: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=operations/puppet.git;a=blob;f=templates/misc/bugzilla_report.php;hb=HEAD
 * Yes
 * Andre on listing the most urgent tickets - hard to exclude the closed ones! works when Andre tests it locally. Andre's posted a BZ ticket with link to the problematic changesets
 * I am not sure if I did "update new version of this file" correctly for http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bugzilla_Weekly_Report

MariaDB rollout

 * Communcations: Look out for a blog post from Asher this week
 * errors for Andre to watch out for: replag. If there are big big problems Ops will catch it.

LevelUp working/not working
on whether people get the time they need to do this stuff. We need to make it not feel like a distraction, like it's hyper-auxiliary. More integrated into our overall set of goals. Better alignment of mentoring activities with overall goals we're trying to achieve as an eng org. Plus managers impressing importance of this.
 * graph - data -might be useful

Wikimania & Amsterdam hackathon
Wikimania: April 30th is the submission deadline; What shall we submit? Amsterdam
 * https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions
 * Sumana - respond today to Quim
 * Andre - would like to team up for a proposal. QA/community outreach, Andre could have 5 min re bug reporting?
 * Sumana needs to help wrangle tutorials for Amsterdam hackathon prep

Misc

 * Is anyone waiting on an urgent response from Guillaume? (finishing to catch up, but if you need something to be moved to the top of the list, please say so)
 * Testing activities: We need to assure more participation before getting events where we get 3-5 participants.

Vacations, conferences, etc.
Sumana: Andre: Željko: Chris:
 * June is weird
 * a few days around Amsterdam (likely May 20 - May 26)
 * Open Source Bridge Conference, Portland, (June 18–21), likely SF before or after
 * May 18-23 Amsterdam with my family
 * May 23-27, Wikimedia Hackathon, Amsterdam, Netherlands
 * June 10-12, Selenium Conference, Boston, MA, USA
 * Submitted talks/workshops for a couple of local open source conferences, waiting for reply (May 15-17, September 06-07)
 * maybe August 14-18, JRubyConf (August 14-15) + European Ruby Camp (August 16-18), both in Berlin, Germany
 * Apr 22-25 (Google Test Automation Conference, NYC)
 * May 2-5 (Telerik Test Summit Peer Conference, Austin TX)
 * May 13-17 relocating, details TBD
 * May 24-26, Wikimedia Hackathon, Amsterdam, Netherlands
 * Aug 4-10 Agile2013 - "radically open software testing"