Reading/Web/Desktop Improvements/Second prototype testing/Feedback

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Username: Evodash

 * 1) I think the small bar at the top when scrolling down was very needed already at the start, and I find it very useful and convenient, however I think the buttons should all have text with them so that it's easier to understand which button's which since they aren't very present in the current Wiki layout. However at first sight I find this whole new layout a downgrade to the current one, as it seems like I'm using the mobile version and the actual article looks like a small widget in the middle of the page.
 * 2) More buttons appear, that's cool.
 * 3) I find them useful, yes.
 * 4) preferences shortcuts

3. No. Where am I supposed to go? It's all so hidden, and there's no reason to remove almost all the text from the menus and tabs in favor of icons that are harder to understand.

4. If this ever becomes the main layout (which I hope not, at the current state), I think that when you first access wikipedia there should be a pop up saying which layout you'd like to use, kind of like when you first open your new phone and it tells you if you want the classic android icons or the brand's icons. What I find particularly annoying and unnecessary is how the layout all seems like a mobile version of the normal website and how the actual article, what people are actually focusing on, is just a small window on the whole page especially when the page is long, and when you scroll down the article still remains small in the middle and it's very confusing. what I also don't like at all is how the bar at the left is collapsed by default, and for small windows the text is also cut in half. I don't get why it's a separate tab now, it's just unconvenient and serves no purpose other than leaving more space on the article, which however is already wasted by making the article smaller.

Final thoughts: I get that nowadays we're in a new age and everything is becoming more minimal (and rightfully so), however that doesn't mean everything should automatically become minimal. At first I thought I was using the mobile version, and this new layout is a clear downgrade to the current one, and leaves a LOT of less space for the actual article. I hope that everything I just said gets fixed, and we'll still be able to use the old layout whenever we want.

This current layout is not only inconvenient for readers, but also for editors. Why is everything so dramatically aligned to look like a minimal mobile version? Also, for us editors the experience is even worse as the article is smaller and there's less room for the editing options in visual mode, and everything looks like it's purposefully hidden to make it harder to edit. There's also no reason to make these many useless changes that just ruin the experience for everyone on wikis.

Kullanıcı adı: Sametso

 * 1) Bir süre ayırarak etrafa bakının, sayfada yukarıya ve aşağıya gidin, birkaç farklı sayfaya bakın. İlk izlenimleriniz neler? Kafanızı karıştıran herhangi bir şey var mı? Peki ya kullanışlı bulduğunuz? Özellikle ilginizi çeken bir şey? (Bunun bir prototip olması nedeniyle bağlantıları çoğunun aslında çalışmadığını ve karşılaşacağınız başka hata veya gariplikler de olabileceğini unutmayın.)
 * Pek kafam karışmadı, bütün herşey ilgimi çekti ve çok iyiler.
 * 1) Sayfaya yavaşça aşağıya inin. Şimdi biraz yukarı çıkın. Ne fark ettiniz? Bu deneyim konusunda ne düşünüyorsunuz?
 * YSayfanın tepesinde küçük bir önizleme çubuğu vardı. Bence bayağı iyi bir özellik.
 * 1) Burada gösterilen özellikler sizin için kullanışlı ve/veya yararlı mı? Okuma ve düzenleme sırasında erişim sağlanması özellikle kullanışlı ve/veya yararlı herhangi bir özellik var mı?
 * Özelliklerin hepsi yararlıydı.
 * 1) Yeni başlıkta bulunmayan ama erişmek istediğiniz herhangi bir özellik var mı?
 * Herhangi bir özelliğe erişmek istemiyorum.
 * 1) Şimdi de sayfanın en tepesine çıkın. Me saj sayfanıza gitmek istediğinizi düşünün. Bunu nasıl yapabileceğinizi bulabiliyor musunuz? Bu deneyim konusunda ne düşünüyorsunuz?
 * Evet bulabildim. Bütün profil ayarlarının tek bir yerde olması bayaği iyiydi.
 * 1) Lütfen her türlü nihai düşünce, fikir ve sorunuzu ekleyin.
 * Herhangi bir nihai ekleme yapmayı düşünmüyorum.

Username: Iketsi

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * I expected to be able to interact with the TOC by clicking on the section name.
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * Good for optimal screen real estate, but it could confuse some users by hiding away the search field and editing features. I would make the bar sticky by default and allow users to toggle its stickiness.
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * A narrow layout with a minimalist visual interface is ideal for reading but suboptimal for editing. Ideally, it should be able to quickly switch between them.
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * I need to see all interwiki language links at a glance without going through the extra step of hovering, clicking, or digging through menus. It allows me to quickly determine which languages have an article about a given topic while I am reading it, and I often read a different language that I would not have necessarily looked for, had the languages not been as visible.
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * Not having to scroll all the way to the top to click on the Talk link is a definitive improvement, but I hope the Ctr+Option+N hotkey shortcut is still kept.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * The search bar would make more ergonomic sense in the middle, and it could be a tad wider.

ব্যবহারকারী নাম:আফতাবুজ্জামান

 * 1) উক্ত পৃষ্ঠায় যান, এক মিনিট সময় নিয়ে ভালো করে দেখুন, পৃষ্ঠার উপরে এবং নিচে স্ক্রোল করুন, কয়েকটি ভিন্ন ভিন্ন পৃষ্ঠাও দেখুন। আপনার প্রাথমিক অনুভূতি কি? আপনি কি বিভ্রান্তিকর কিছু খুঁজে পেয়েছেন? সুবিধাজনক? আকর্ষণীয়? (লক্ষ্য করুন, যেহেতু এটি একটি প্রোটোটাইপ, অনেক লিঙ্ক কাজ নাও করতে পারে, এবং অন্যান্য বাগ বা ত্রুটি থাকতে পারে।)
 * 2) ধীরে ধীরে পৃষ্ঠার নিচের দিকে স্ক্রোল করুন। এখন আবার একটু উপরে স্ক্রোল করুন। কিছু কি খেয়াল করেছেন? এটি নিয়ে আপনার অনুভূতি কি?
 * হ্যাঁ খেয়াল করেছি, নিচে যেয়ে আবার উপরে স্ক্রোল করলে শীর্ষচরণ বা শীর্ষকটি দেখা যায়। খারাপ না, তবে ব্যক্তিগত অনুভূতি হল, এটা সর্বদা ভাসানো বা দৃশ্যমান থাকলে ভালো হয়। এখন মাউস নিলে দেখা যায় আবার মাউস সরালে হারিয়ে যায় যা আমার ভালো লাগেনি।
 * 1) এখানে প্রদর্শিত বৈশিষ্ট্যগুলি কি আপনার জন্য উপকারী? এমন বিশেষ কোন বৈশিষ্ট্য বা ফিচার আছে কি, যা পঠন বা সম্পাদনার সময় আপনি পেতে চান?
 * হ্যাঁ। এতে নিবন্ধের আলাপ পাতায় যেতে, সম্পাদনায় যেতে বা অন্য উইকিতে যেয়ে বারবার একদম শীর্ষে যাওয়া লাগবে না। শীর্ষচরণেই তা পাওয়া যাচ্ছে।
 * 1) নতুন শীর্ষচরণে উপলভ্য নয় কিন্তু আপনি পেতে চান এমন কোন বৈশিষ্ট্য আছে কি?
 * বাম দিকে উপরের W আইকনে ক্লিক করলে লুকানো পার্শ্বদণ্ড আসে না। এটা আসলে ভালো হত। তাহলে এটা পেতে নিবন্ধের একদম শুরুতে প্রতিবার যাওয়া লাগবে না।
 * 1) এখন, পৃষ্ঠার একদম উপরে স্ক্রোল করুন। কল্পনা করুন আপনি আপনার আলাপ পাতায় যেতে চান। কিভাবে যাবেন আপনি কি তা বের করতে পেরেছেন? এটি নিয়ে আপনার অনুভূতি কি?
 * না, আমি কিছুতেই নিজস্ব তথা L May Alcott-এর ব্যবহারকারী আলাপ পাতায় যাওয়ার লিঙ্ক বের করতে পারলাম না। ড্রপডাউন মেনুতে আলাপ নামে বা এই জাতীয় কোন আইকন দেখতে পেলাম না। তবে নিবন্ধের আলাপ পাতায় যাওয়ার লিঙ্ক সহজেই বের করতে পেরেছি।
 * 1) আপনার কোন চিন্তা ভাবনা, কোন ধারণা বা প্রশ্ন থাকলে তা যোগ করুন।
 * 1) আপনার কোন চিন্তা ভাবনা, কোন ধারণা বা প্রশ্ন থাকলে তা যোগ করুন।

Username:Huji

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * Nothing is confusing.
 * The layout is clean and familiar. It is less cluttered than current Vector which is nice. I also like the flat, black-and-white theme of the top section; what I don't like is it does not match the theme and coloring of the rest of Vector elements, namely the tabs ("Page", "Discussion", etc.)
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * I like the autohiding top bar. What I don't like is that the Wikipedia logo (globe) is replaced with a "W" logo. This makes sense for languages using Latin alphabet, but not for other languages (think Arabic, Japanese, Russian, etc.)
 * Also, in the scrolled-down view, the search box in that top bar is not rendered properly; the search button is displaced.
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * Persistent access to the "edit source" button through the new header is definitely a good thing. Same with "talk" and "history" buttons in the new header.
 * The "233 Languages" menu is not working so I cannot speak to its usability. A pedantic question is: for a page that is only available in one other language, will this read "2 Languages" or "1 Language"?
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * I cannot think of any; but I hope the extra real estate of the new header would be easily available for injecting additional tools.
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * Yes; see comment above, regarding the theme of the new header and the old Vector tabs not being consistent.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * If you type something in the search box that is part of the new header but don't press search, then scroll back up, you won't see the typed value anymore. This is likely because there are two search boxes. It would be nice if they could be in sync.
 * Before moving forward with this, it would be nice if an RTL version is also previewed and comments are solicited from RTL users (e.g. Persian Wikipedia users). I am particularly worried that the displaced search button in the new header may be an issue in RTL too.

Reading and interwiki
It's more comfortable for reading. But opening interwikis in new tabs (which needed for translation) are more complicate.--Alexander Roumega (talk) 23:44, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Username:KtosKto64

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * Lack of contents table makes the page more difficult to navigate; margins are too wide (they take up space that could otherwise be used for text); hidden sidebar makes the page feel empty.
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * I find the header movements while scrolling distracting and irritating, I don't see why it would be useful.
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * None of them are really helpful - I find the current layout easier to navigate.
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * If the header needs to be there at all, I would make it permanently visible.
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * I can figure out how to do that easily. I can figure it out even more easily with the current layout.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * I don't see the need to update Wikipedia's layout ("If it ain't broken, don't fix it"). I don't see why new features would be beneficial over current ones. New layout seems like an attempt to adapt mobile page visuals to desktop version, which I don't think is good idea. In particular, the wide margins are atrocious. Too much whitespace makes the page feel empty and less engaging.

Nom d’utilisateur :SleaY

 * 1) Prenez une minute pour observer la page, la faire défiler, observer plusieurs pages différentes. Quelles sont vos premières impressions ? Est-ce que quelque chose vous dérange ? vous semble pratique ? particulièrement intéressant ? (Gardez en tête que ceci est un prototype, donc il se peut que certains liens ne fonctionnent pas ou que vous rencontriez d'autres bugs ou bizarreries).
 * Infobox étrangement placée au dessus du texte qui n'invite pas à la lecture. Les contours du texte sont épurés ce qui facilite la lecture. Certains modèles ne sont pas correctement affichés.
 * 1) Faites défiler la page lentement. Puis remontez un peu. Que remarquez-vous ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * La barre d'outils disparait puis réapparait. Honnêtement, cela me semble être un artifice qui n'apporte pas grand chose à la lecture, mais complexifie la navigation. Peut aussi porter à confusion avec la « cloche » de notification.
 * 1) Est-ce que les fonctionnalités présentées ici vous sont utiles oui ? Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles il est particulièrement utile de pouvoir accéder pendant qu'on lit ou qu'on modifie une page tout ?
 * Oui, historique, modifier, discussion etc oui
 * 1) Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles vous souhaiteriez pouvoir accéder, mais qui ne sont pas disponibles dans le nouvel entête oui ?
 * Langages, mais pas de liens interwikis non ?
 * 1) À présent, remontez tout en haut de la page. Imaginez que vous souhaitez accéder à votre page de discussion. Arrivez-vous à trouver comment faire ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * Pas sûr... en cliquant sur le nom d'utilisateur peut-être ?
 * 1) Faites part ici de tout commentaire, idée ou question complémentaire.
 * Peut-être envisager un fond sombre, comme sur l'application mobile.

Nom d’utilisateur :TED

 * 1) Prenez une minute pour observer la page, la faire défiler, observer plusieurs pages différentes. Quelles sont vos premières impressions ? Est-ce que quelque chose vous dérange ? vous semble pratique ? particulièrement intéressant ? (Gardez en tête que ceci est un prototype, donc il se peut que certains liens ne fonctionnent pas ou que vous rencontriez d'autres bugs ou bizarreries).
 * L’infobox ne s’affiche pas correctement (elle est décalée tout à gauche, hors d’un tableau, avec le texte qui passe à la suite), les galeries d’images ne s’affichent plus en ligne mais en colonne, les palettes ne s’affichent pas correctement non plus (il semble y avoir un bug avec les listes horizontales, et il y a une gestion différentes des listes à puces). Il manque le sommaire, les liens interlangues en colonne de gauche, et les catégories. La police de caractère est différente et plus difficile à lire (problème d’espacement entre les caractères ?). Les tableaux (comme pour l’infobox) semblent aussi avoir des problèmes d’affichage.
 * 1) Faites défiler la page lentement. Puis remontez un peu. Que remarquez-vous ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * Un barre apparaît en haut avec le titre de l’article et le titre de section de niveau 1 (alors qu’on peut être dans une sous-section avec un autre titre). Il n’y a pas de lien sur le titre de l’article ou de la section qui permettrait de naviguer dans l’article. Elle n’a aucun intérêt, ou je n’en comprends pas l’intérêt.
 * 1) Est-ce que les fonctionnalités présentées ici vous sont utiles ? Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles il est particulièrement utile de pouvoir accéder pendant qu'on lit ou qu'on modifie une page ?
 * Il serait plus intéressant de pouvoir afficher tout le sommaire pour naviguer dans la page sans à avoir à revenir en haut, mais afficher seulement un titre de section de niveau 1 ne sert pas à grand chose, surtout si on ne peut pas cliquer dessus pour revenir au début de la section par exemple. (cf. ce qui est proposé ici, si j’ai bien compris : Reading/Web/Desktop_Improvements/Features/fr)
 * 1) Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles vous souhaiteriez pouvoir accéder, mais qui ne sont pas disponibles dans le nouvel entête ?
 * Le sommaire, les liens inter-langues en colonne de gauche, les catégories.
 * 1) À présent, remontez tout en haut de la page. Imaginez que vous souhaitez accéder à votre page de discussion. Arrivez-vous à trouver comment faire ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * Non, je ne trouve pas : ni ma page utilisateur, ni ma page de discussion, ni ma liste de suivi, ni mes préférences, ni ma liste de discussion, ni le lien « Se déconnecter ». En fait, c’est tout le haut de page qui a disparu. C’est assez déroutant et désagréable. Il y a des icônes noires en gras pour mes alertes et mes notifications, mais pas cliquables. Et « L May Alcott » toujours en noir en gras (un nom d’utilisateur qui n’est pas le mien ?)… Je ne comprends pas à quoi cela correspond. Il ne se passe rien quand je clique sur tout cela. (NB : impossible d’accéder à la page de discussion de l’article ou à l’historique de l’article non plus, mais c’est probablement plutôt dû au prototype)
 * 1) Faites part ici de tout commentaire, idée ou question complémentaire.
 * J’espère que cela ne sera pas déployé par défaut en l’état. TED (talk) 00:53, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Имя участника:Sunpriat
>Ощущение, что дизайнеры отобрали волшебную палочку, которая позволяла редактировать статьи, сломали её пополам и вернули нам только половину палочки. Статья выглядит больше для чтения и менее encourage к изменению текста. Раньше большая шапка немного походила на интерфейс текстового редактора, где не страшно нажать для начала любых изменений на сайте. Теперь всё спрятано и походит на любой другой сайт которые можно только читать. >Вероятность того, что читатель кликнет на раскрывающийся список достаточно низкая. Например, в левом сайдбаре у ruwiki есть ссылка Сообщить об ошибке. Теперь новые читатели о ней не будут знать, пока не откроют список и внимательно не прочитают список. Например сайдбар мог бы всегда показываться когда страница в самом вверху, скрываться когда страница начинает прокручиваться вниз, и слева-вверху показываться W — иконка интуитивно ожидается какой-то интерактивной, может по клику на ней будет прокручиваться в начало и показываться сайдбар.Очень многое заглушено в чёрный цвет. В Wikimedia Design Style Guide ведь выделили цвет действия - синий цвет. Например, когда наводится курсор на языки или меню пользователя c "…" ожидалось бы изменение цвета текста на синий - побуждающее к действию и показывающее, что это активный действующий элемент. Раньше всё было ссылкой, ссылка была активной синей и при наведении на ссылку она подчёркивалась. Теперь при наведении элемент еле заметно сереет, что почти не заметно и ни о чём не говорит.Наличие блока содержания раньше помогало редакторам отодвигать текст дальше вниз от карточки. Теперь нам придётся приспособится к новому расположению текста, но многие картинки справа сдвинутся под инфобокс-карточку.Заголовки предположительно как в Flow (Structured Discussions). Когда было содержание, оно помогало в обзоре статьи, в навигации и в понимании положения читателя на странице. Сейчас при прокрутке ощущается как "бесконечно" сменяется заголовок. Возможно в заголовке в панели стоит оставить нумерацию рядом с названием разделов, так это будет больше способствовать пониманию, в какой части страницы по отношению к началу и концу этой страницы читатель находится. Для страниц-форумов это не очень удобно, это скрывает поднятые проблемы и открытые обсуждения - более старые темы, будут получать ещё меньше внимания.Значок истории похож на действие отмена/откатывание (сравните с тем, что показывается в уведомлении notification-header-reverted "commons:File:Echo revert icon.svg Your edits on pagename were reverted" ), иконка понимается как "верни время назад" (как призыв к негативному действию "вернуть", но не как "посмотреть на историю"). Нормальное движение по часовой стрелке тоже привычно бы представляло историю как "все правки до этого момента/к этому моменту".После клика на поиск, его поле сдвинуто влево. Может он мог бы быть расширенным вправо до границы, где заканчивается обычное поле поиска, которое рядом с логотипом Википедии вверзу страницы, таким образом кнопки "поиск" у обоиз полей оказывались бы в одинаковой позиции.Сложно отобразить индикатор пустой страницы обсуждения от непустой? Если нет обсуждений - значок бы какой-то пустой. Если есть обсуждения - значок более заполненный и возможно цифра с количеством открытых тем. А просто одиночный значок не лучше слова "talk", возможно даже немного хуже, так как добавляет неопределённости. Подобный значок есть в визуальном редакторе в панели по кнопке "?"(Справка)/"Отправить отзыв" и его жирная чернота совершенно не побуждает (does not add courage, but rather scares away ) начать общение кликнув по нему. Чёрный - цвет траура, будет ассоциация с негативом, с мёртвым обсуждением, с написанием в никуда где никто не прочитает.Многие прокручивают страницы колесиком мыши. Но оно может плохо работать или со временем работать хуже - это проблема многих мышек. Тогда у колесика появляются ложные распознавания - хотя крутишь колесико вниз, иногда срабатывает как прокрутка вверх и затем опять распознается как прокрутка вниз. Такой неверный тик появляется случайно между правильными тиками колесика и длится намного меньше секунды. Но страница успевает прокрутиться на строку вверх и выплывает панель. Может стоит сделать незначительную задержку у появления панели, достаточную чтобы после неверного тика колесика его действие могло бы быстро успеть переопределиться путём правильного тика.Когда на большой странице много подразделов - 2-й уровень разбит на много 3 и 4-х уровней, а в панели всегда показывается только название 2-го уровня, - интуитивно ожидалось увидеть в панели заголовок 3-го уровня, если внури него есть 4-й уровень (например, "название статьи | 2 уровень | 3 уровень", "название | 3 уровень"). Когда прокручиваешь несколько экранов текста, несколько подзаголовков и в заголовке всё время сохраняется только название 2-го уровня, это название только 2-го уровня выглядит уже бесполезным и неуместным к показываемому к этому моменту на экране тексту. --Sunpriat (talk) 00:54, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) Уделите минуту тому, чтобы осмотреться, пролистайте страницу вверх и вниз, посмотрите несколько различных страниц. Какие у вас первые впечатления? Вас что-нибудь смущает? Вам удобно? Вы находите что-нибудь сбивающим с толку? Удобным? Особенно интересным? (Имейте в виду, что это прототип, в котором некоторые ссылки могут не работать, и в котором вам могут встретиться другие ошибки или странности.)
 * W и иконка человека несимметрично отодвинуты по отношению к статье. <br
 * 1) Медленно прокрутите страницу вниз. Теперь прокрутите немного назад. Что вы заметили? Что вы думаете об этом опыте?
 * Когда прокручиваешь вверх слева W, лупа и название статьи и справа черные иконки, особенно иконка обсуждения, доминируют над размером и тонкостью текста (текст не жирный ведь), отвлекают внимание на себя и мешают сосредоточиться на тексте статьи. Иконки должны быть более лёгкими и тонкими. Когда иконки/действия нужны, тогда человек посмотрит прямо на панель, панель не должна перетягивать внимание когда человек смотрит на текст статьи.
 * 1) Полезны ли вам показанные здесь функции? Существуют ли какие-либо функции, к которым особенно полезно иметь доступ во время чтения или редактирования?
 * нет мнения
 * 1) Есть ли какие-либо функции, к которым вы хотели бы получить доступ, которые недоступны в новой шапке сайта?
 * нет мнения
 * 1) Теперь прокрутите назад до самого верха страницы. Представьте, что вы хотели бы перейти на свою страницу обсуждения. Можете ли вы понять, как это сделать? Что вы думаете об этом опыте?
 * действительно, нет не могу понять. Может пока что-то не работает. Это конечно не часто посещаемая страница, но на уровне с настройками. Если есть место для настроек и списка наблюдения смысла убирать обсуждение мало. Выглядит словно доступ будет после клика и открытия личной страницы участника (лишняя накрутка её просмотров), что сравнимо с доступом к общим форумам через левый сайдбар - сначала кликнуть в сайдбаре форум или сообщество и от туда кликнуть на нужное название форума. Вроде терпимо, но добавляет пользователю много монотонно повторяемых ненужных ему действий.
 * 1) Завершая свой отзыв, добавьте, пожалуйста, любые мысли, идеи или вопросы.
 * Много элементов скрыто. Когда что-то скрыто, то оно не запоминается читателем. Буквально он становится не подозревающим о существовании того что скрыто. Пример: во вкладках над заголовком многие не знают что в "ещё/more" вкладке. Стоит организовать метрику, чтобы было с чем сравнить - ухудшится ли посещаемость (количество кликов и открытий) по тем ссылкам которые оказались скрыты в сравнении что было до включения нового интерфейса (в идеале чтобы сравнить год перед и год после). (возможно падение в статистике переходов/кликов по языкам)<br

Username:Sepguilherme

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * The first thing I was impressed was by the amount of white space on the sides of the page. That doesn't mean it's a bad thing, I guess if the text were to be read all across the screen, it would make the reading quite difficult and boring. It's nice to have a max width. But I guess the "floating" sidebar makes the page looks rather "empty". Otherwise, it still feels like a normal Wikipedia page.
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * I guess it's alright. It helps us to remember which page we are reading.
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * I enjoyed the little summary that shows up when using the search bar. It's useful.
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * No. Every feature I'm used to access is in the new header.
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * I couldn't find the link to my talk page. I don't know if clicking on my username was supposed to take me there, but it didn't. I tried to find it in the little ellipsis menu, but couldn't find it either.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * I like the new layout, it still feels like Wikipedia. One thing I would suggest would be if you were interested in trying some new fonts for the headers and/or the text. But, to be honest, if this new features were to be ditched and Wikipedia stayed the same, I wouldn't be sad.

Username:Triton

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * More epurate, easier to read and certainly easier for non contributors. Not specifically convenient for contributors to access quickly to their tools (I still use wikicode so I may not be the best example). Missing the plan of the article?
 * I understand Mediawiki try to be more phone/tablet friendly but how many contributors use this kind of hardware?
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * Menu at the top interesing for lecture, again, not specifically designed for contributors. Not sure on the necessity to see the paragraph.
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * More nice than useful at this stage.
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * Interwiki/Commons/data and categories
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * Not found
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * Thank you for your work

Nombre de usuario:OGalati
Gracias por el trabajo !!
 * 1) Tómese un minuto para mirar alrededor. ¿Cuáles son algunas de sus impresiones iniciales? ¿Hay algo que encuentra confuso? ¿Conveniente? ¿Particularmente interesante? (Dado que esto es un prototipo la mayoría de los links no funcionan puede que se encuentre otros bugs o defectos).
 * El menú lateral ocultable es muy buena idea. Si embargo en monitores anchos parece que el espacio extra no se aprovecha. El artículo se muestra demasiado angosto, dejando bandas laterales vacías.
 * 1) Desplace despacio la página hacia abajo. Ahora haga scroll hacia arriba un poco. ¿Qué   nota? ¿Qué   piensa de esta experiencia?
 * La barra de menú descendente es interesante.
 * 1) ¿Son las características mostradas aquí útiles para usted? ¿Alguna de las nuevas características es particularmente útil para tener acceso a la hora de leer o editar?
 * 2) ¿Hay alguna característica a la que quiera acceder que no encuentre en la nueva cabecera?
 * El Indice ocultable debería conservarse.
 * 1) Ahora, vuelva al inicio de la página. Imagine que quiere ir a la página de discusión. ¿Cómo lo haría? ¿Cómo ve la experiencia?
 * No veo otra forma que el enlace tradicional de Discusión para ir a la discusión del artículo. El menú desplegable de 3 puntos me parece muy interesante
 * 1) Por favor añada cualquier idea final, comentario o preguntas.
 * Veo las imágenes de las caras de la Luna, una debajo de la otra, en vez de verlas una al lado de la otra, como en el artículo original. Pienso que es un error en el diseño.
 * 1) Ahora, vuelva al inicio de la página. Imagine que quiere ir a la página de discusión. ¿Cómo lo haría? ¿Cómo ve la experiencia?
 * No veo otra forma que el enlace tradicional de Discusión para ir a la discusión del artículo. El menú desplegable de 3 puntos me parece muy interesante
 * 1) Por favor añada cualquier idea final, comentario o preguntas.
 * Veo las imágenes de las caras de la Luna, una debajo de la otra, en vez de verlas una al lado de la otra, como en el artículo original. Pienso que es un error en el diseño.

اسم المستخدم:Dr-Taher

 * 1) نطلبُ منك -لطفًا- أن تقضي دقيقة في تأمل هذه الصفحة طلوعًا ونزولاً وفي افتح بعض الروابط فيها. أخبرنا الآتي: ما هي انطباعاتك الأولى؟ هل تفهم الغرض من هذه الصفحة؟ هل تجدُها مربكة؟ هل تجدها مفيدة؟ (نرجو أن تتفهم أن هذا نموذج أولي، لذا قد لا تعمل جميع الروابط، كما قد تكون هناك بعض الأعطال أو المشاكل العرضية).
 * ..تصميم جديد للصفحات، ولا يبدو مُربكا، بل أراه مُفيدًا.
 * 1) انزل ببُطءٍ إلى أسفل الصفحة، ثم اصعد مرة أخرى إلى أعلاها. هل لاحظت شيئًا؟ هل لديك رأي بما شاهدت؟
 * ..لاحظت ظهور "رأس جديد للصفحة" وبه عدة إختصارات، وهي إضافة جيدة.
 * 1) هل الميزات التي تحتويها الصفحة مفيدة لك؟ خصوصًا إن كانت متوفرة أثناء قراءة وتحرير صفحات ويكيبيديا؟
 * ..نعم أرى أن هذه الإضافة جيدة.
 * 1) هل هناك أي ميزات مفقودة ترغب بأن تراها في الرأسية الجديدة؟
 * ..هل يمكن إضافة قائمة منسدلة فيها أوامر "لمح البصر" ، وقائمة اخرى فيها "الأوامر المتاحة للإداريين"؟
 * 1) نطلبُ منك -لطفًا- أن تعود إلى أعلى الصفحة الآن. تخيل أنك تريد الوصول إلى صفحة نقاشك على ويكيبيديا، هل تعرف كيفية الوصول إليها من هذه الواجهة؟ ما هو رأيك بذلك؟
 * ..نعم، هناك رمز يشير إلى صفحة النقاش. طريقة جيدة.
 * 1) يمكنك هنا إضافة أي أفكار أو أسئلة أخرى لديك.
 * ..هل يمكن إضافة قائمة منسدلة فيها أوامر "لمح البصر" ، وقائمة اخرى فيها "الأوامر المتاحة للإداريين"؟

Username:Martin Vrut

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * There are not the links at the left side of the page, that I was used to and there is nothing instead of them. There is a lot of empty space, which does not look good.
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * I actually do not like these kinds of effects. I find it annoying
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * The big search bar is quite useful.
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * Watchlist, recent changes, log out button and more
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * I actually do not know where to find my talk page which is confusing
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * I do no find this layout useful, the old one is better for me. The only change I find better than at the old one i the bigger search bar situated at the left.

Username: Greatder

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * I really wish the links on the left would be expanded by default, then I can compress them if I am doing half-screen editing. The infobox is way too wide, needs shrinking. While I like the centerness of the text I think it's a bit overboard and needs to be a tad wider.
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * Like আফতাবুজ্জামান said, I wish it was permanent instead of dynamic.
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * Yes, language switching mode and access to general stuff in the middle of reading.
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * The language is not well suggested like in mobile mode, which causes problems finding and switching.
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * That's weird am I supposed click my name here or something? :/
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * Stuff I just said above should improve massively, with emphasis on suggested language, somewhat wider text area, expanded left section by default and permanent header.

Username:Thas Tayapongsak

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * Overall this looks very clean. One thing keeps bugging me though which is the floating "W" on the top left. I think when I open the hamburger menu, the logo shouldn't be there anymore as it blocks all the links. Also, in the profile dropdown menu, shouldn't there be a link to go to one's profile page too? It works nicely with my third party dark mode extension. The clock (I would assume it is) is also a useful addition. (as I was writing this, the profile drop down turned into three dots. I would prefer more the profile dropdown, with the profile link in it.)


 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * It's good, but it disappear as soon as I hover my mouse over my browser's url search bar thing. Top left showing which section im in is useful


 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * I think it's ok as it is right now.


 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * None that I can think of


 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * good


 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * it's great.

I don't retrieve quick link to wikidata & commons
Globally I'm ok with new display. I was just unable to retrieve a quick link to wikidata & the commons. Take care, --FHd (talk) 05:39, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Oops coming from the French page, I didn't get the 4 questions. Will see again later on, sorry no time yet. Have a nice day, --FHd (talk) 05:41, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Username:Artushak

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * It looks really bad. Font is not easy to read (I prefer to use custom font set in browser settings). Left and right margins are too huge. Line spacing is too small.
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * I noticed a top bar ("sticky" one).
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * Top bar is mostly OK. It contains "talk", "languages" and "edit source" buttons, they are useful (I prefer editing source, because WYSIWYG editors are terrible).
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * Yes, I want link to my user page.
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * No, I do not know how to do it. This is bad.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * Make sticky header always visible (i.e. show it always, not only when I hover it with mouse pointer) and remove another (non-sticky top) bar. And remove those margins and do not override browser font settings.

Ім'я користувача:Богдан Панчук

 * 1) Приділіть хвилину щоб озирнутись, прокрутити вгору-вниз сторінки, прогляньте кілька різних сторінок. Які Ваші початкові враження? Щось є важкозрозумілим? Зручним? Особливо цікавим? (Майте на увазі, що оскільки це прототип, частина посилань може не працювати й що можуть бути інші баги чи приклади дивної поведінки, на які Ви наштовхнетесь.)
 * Мало місця для меню з інструментами зліва. Також нехай вміст сторінки не зсувається "туди-сюди": навіщо, і без цього між меню і вмістом є певний простір. Це дуже кидається в очі. Також, незрозуміло навіщо вільний простір справа сторінки (дивлюсь через ПК, можливо при мобільному перегляді воно все органічно)
 * 1) Повільно прокрутіть сторінку донизу. Тепер прокрутіть трішки вгору. Що Ви помічаєте? Яке Ваше враження щодо цього досвіду?
 * У шапці («прилиплому» заголовку) сторінки поруч з назвою статті відображається назва розділу. Надто різка зміна, якщо чесно. Також, йдучи знизу вгору, ледве побачивши назву розділу "Умови на поверхні Місяця", як у шапці вже "Лібрації". При такій анімації, думаю, потрібно врахувати і розмір самої шапки, через яку в певній мірі не видно контент.
 * 1) Чи є представлені функції корисними для Вас? Чи є якісь функції, які особливо корисно мати під рукою під час читання чи редагування?
 * Все, у принципі, схоже до теперішньої версії - "все під рукою". Особливо добре, що є кнопка швидкої зміни мови (зараз у бета-тестуванні вона поки що відсутня)
 * 1) Чи є якісь функції, до яких Ви б хотіли мати доступ, які не представлені в новому заголовку?
 * Меню вибору для переключення між візуальним редактором і звичайним (кнопки "Edit" і "Edit source") є лише при прокручуванні сторінки. І не має кнопки для візуального редактора ("Edit" або ж "Редагувати"), коли знаходжусь на горі сторінки.
 * 1) Тепер прокрутіть назад нагору сторінки. Уявіть, що Ви б хотіли перейти на свою сторінку обговорення. Чи зрозуміло для Вас як це зробити? Що Ви думаєте про цей досвід?
 * Не дуже зрозуміло. Є кнопка користувача ("L May Alcott" у прототипі), але не знаю, куди вона має вести (зараз вона неактивна): на сторінку користувача, чи на сторінку його обговорення?
 * 1) Будь ласка, додайте будь-які фінальні думки, ідеї чи запитання.
 * 1) Сторінка історії редагувань сторінки залишиться незмінною, візуально?

2) Загалом дизайн цікавий, компактний (це ключове слово), легкий для розуміння. Дякую Вам, очікуватиму на повне впровадження. --Богдан Панчук (talk) 06:09, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Username:Dalka

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * I hope you have people who can read Russian, so I continue in Russian. Первое впечатление: пусто слева, и неясно, что же там будет.
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * Кажется интуитивно понятным, но я предпочитаю, когда нужные мне элементы интерфейса появляются по моей команде, а не выскакивают сами. Кстати, после самой первой прокрутки вообще нет ни одного элемента интерфейса!
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * Было бы хорошо, если бы можно было легко переключаться на английскую версию статьи и обратно. Язык, конечно, должен быть настраиваемым для пользователя или даже ещё и для каждой статьи.
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * Для меня самой важной кнопкой является просмотр списка наблюдения, но прямого доступа к нему там нет. Возможно, список элементов верхней панели надо сделать индивидуальным для пользователя, чтобы каждый мог подстроить под себя.
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * Нет, я не вижу, как же это сделать :(
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * В новом заголовке подсказки должны быть у всех элементов, а в составе подсказок хорошо бы показывать горячие клавиши для вызова данной функции.

Nombre de usuario:Fabro

 * 1) Tómese un minuto para mirar alrededor. ¿Cuáles son algunas de sus impresiones iniciales? ¿Hay algo que encuentra confuso? ¿Conveniente? ¿Particularmente interesante? (Dado que esto es un prototipo la mayoría de los links no funcionan puede que se encuentre otros bugs o defectos).
 * El diseño es bastante moderno, algo que me agrada mucho. El hecho de que haya tanto espacio en blanco a la izquierda y a la derecha hace que la página se vea un poco extraña.
 * 1) Desplace despacio la página hacia abajo. Ahora haga scroll hacia arriba un poco. ¿Qué   nota? ¿Qué   piensa de esta experiencia?
 * Es bastante agradable, pero como he dicho antes, tanto margen en blanco se ve extraño. Como solución, mantendría la barra lateral siempre desplegada.
 * 1) ¿Son las características mostradas aquí útiles para usted? ¿Alguna de las nuevas características es particularmente útil para tener acceso a la hora de leer o editar?
 * El nuevo diseño parece ser muy bueno y atractivo para los lectores, pero para los editores parece poco práctico.
 * 1) ¿Hay alguna característica a la que quiera acceder que no encuentre en la nueva cabecera?
 * No realmente.
 * 1) Ahora, vuelva al inicio de la página. Imagine que quiere ir a la página de discusión. ¿Cómo lo haría? ¿Cómo ve la experiencia?
 * La experiencia es similar a la actual. El botón de discusión con un tono azulado se ve anticuado, eso podría mejorar.
 * 1) Por favor añada cualquier idea final, comentario o preguntas.
 * En resumen, el diseño es moderno y agradable para los lectores, pero para los editores puede resultar poco práctico. Mantendría la barra lateral de la izquierda desplegada en todo momento para tener ciertos enlaces a mano y para rellenar el enorme margen blanco que hace que la página se vea extraña. --Fabro (talk) 06:18, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Nom d’utilisateur :Reptilien.19831209BE1

 * 1) Prenez une minute pour observer la page, la faire défiler, observer plusieurs pages différentes. Quelles sont vos premières impressions ? Est-ce que quelque chose vous dérange ? vous semble pratique ? particulièrement intéressant ? (Gardez en tête que ceci est un prototype, donc il se peut que certains liens ne fonctionnent pas ou que vous rencontriez d'autres bugs ou bizarreries).
 * J'imagine que l'infobox statique, et non plus flottante à droite, fait partie des bizarreries à ne pas considérer, tout comme les galeries d'images qui apparaissent comme des listes à puces et autres difformités dans les bandeaux thématiques en bas de page. Le texte est bien dégagé ce qui rend la lecture agréable, car l'œil reste concentré sur le contenu.
 * 1) Faites défiler la page lentement. Puis remontez un peu. Que remarquez-vous ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * Observations. Quand je fais descendre la page, l'entête disparaît et le menu utilisateur se réduit en un petit onglet fixe sur la droite. Le logo Wikipedia se réduit à son simple W caractéristique de la marque, et le menu hamburger disparaît également. Quand je remonte la page, ou que je survole l'entête, il réapparaît avec l'ensemble des outils (recherche, menu utilisateur, notifications, actions sur la page). Le titre de la page apparaît dans l'entête avec le nom de la section où l'on se trouve, les deux éléments étant séparés par une barre verticale.
 * Remarques. 1. Le menu hamburger n'est plus accessible quand on descend dans la page. Pour pouvoir afficher le menu de gauche, il faut donc remonter en haut de la page. C'est pas pratique ! 2. Je ne comprends pas pourquoi il faudrait cacher l'entête lorsqu'on descend dans la page. Je préférerais qu'il reste affiché tout le temps et qu'il occupe la totalité de la largeur de l'écran. Une présentation combinant votre proposition avec ce style me conviendrait davantage. 3. Le logo réduit à son simple W me donne un sentiment d'appauvrissement. 4. Le titre combiné avec le nom de la section dans l'entête donne un résultat hideux quand celui est long, et plus encore quand la section est longue également. On se retrouve avec un entête sur deux lignes, avec les outils utilisateurs et les outils de la page placés sur la ligne du bas. C'est pas beaux !
 * 1) Est-ce que les fonctionnalités présentées ici vous sont utiles ? Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles il est particulièrement utile de pouvoir accéder pendant qu'on lit ou qu'on modifie une page ?
 * Je ne suis pas sûr de ce que je dois comprendre par « utiles ». Les outils présents dans l'entête sont utiles, la fonctionnalité elle-même, j'en sais trop rien ! Au regard des critiques que j'ai formulées ci-dessus je dirais non, elles ne me sont pas utiles.
 * 1) Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles vous souhaiteriez pouvoir accéder, mais qui ne sont pas disponibles dans le nouvel entête ?
 * À première vue, non. Enfin, oui, le menu hamburger quand on est plus pas dans la page.
 * 1) À présent, remontez tout en haut de la page. Imaginez que vous souhaitez accéder à votre page de discussion. Arrivez-vous à trouver comment faire ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * Probablement en cliquant sur le nom de l'utilisateur, mais je ne peux pas confirmer, rien ne fonctionne à ce niveau.
 * 1) Faites part ici de tout commentaire, idée ou question complémentaire.
 * Je pense qu'on peut réduire davantage les outils de notification. Actuellement il y a deux icônes (clochette + casier), simplifions ! L'entête de Winter me plaisait mieux.

Nom d’utilisateur :gdgourou

 * 1) Prenez une minute pour observer la page, la faire défiler, observer plusieurs pages différentes. Quelles sont vos premières impressions ? Est-ce que quelque chose vous dérange ? vous semble pratique ? particulièrement intéressant ? (Gardez en tête que ceci est un prototype, donc il se peut que certains liens ne fonctionnent pas ou que vous rencontriez d'autres bugs ou bizarreries).
 * beaucoup d'espace inutilisé de part et d'autre mais lecture agréable. La liste des autres langues est intéressante mais le gras attire trop l'œil. La source et l'historique ne sont pas accessibles. Il n'y a pas de bandeaux de portails en bas.
 * 1) Faites défiler la page lentement. Puis remontez un peu. Que remarquez-vous ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * Ce bandeau escamotable n'est pas intuitif. sans cette question je ne l'aurais pas vu. Il manque le bouton "modifier" et le menu des sections
 * 1) Est-ce que les fonctionnalités présentées ici vous sont utiles ? Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles il est particulièrement utile de pouvoir accéder pendant qu'on lit ou qu'on modifie une page ?
 * Il ne faut pas trop surcharger cette bande
 * 1) Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles vous souhaiteriez pouvoir accéder, mais qui ne sont pas disponibles dans le nouvel entête ?
 * .non
 * 1) À présent, remontez tout en haut de la page. Imaginez que vous souhaitez accéder à votre page de discussion. Arrivez-vous à trouver comment faire ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * oui
 * 1) Faites part ici de tout commentaire, idée ou question complémentaire.
 * pas pour le moment

ব্যবহারকারী নাম:MS Sakib

 * 1) উক্ত পৃষ্ঠায় যান, এক মিনিট সময় নিয়ে ভালো করে দেখুন, পৃষ্ঠার উপরে এবং নিচে স্ক্রোল করুন, কয়েকটি ভিন্ন ভিন্ন পৃষ্ঠাও দেখুন। আপনার প্রাথমিক অনুভূতি কি? আপনি কি বিভ্রান্তিকর কিছু খুঁজে পেয়েছেন? সুবিধাজনক? আকর্ষণীয়? (লক্ষ্য করুন, যেহেতু এটি একটি প্রোটোটাইপ, অনেক লিঙ্ক কাজ নাও করতে পারে, এবং অন্যান্য বাগ বা ত্রুটি থাকতে পারে।)
 * ...পরিবর্তনটির বেশিরভাগই সুবিধাজনক ও আকর্ষণীয়। তবে কিছু বিষয় যা ভালো লাগেনি, যা নিচে ব্যাখ্যা করেছি।


 * 1) ধীরে ধীরে পৃষ্ঠার নিচের দিকে স্ক্রোল করুন। এখন আবার একটু উপরে স্ক্রোল করুন। কিছু কি খেয়াল করেছেন? এটি নিয়ে আপনার অনুভূতি কি?
 * ...নিচের দিকে স্ক্রল করলে পাতার উপরে উইকিপিডিয়া বাটন ও ব্যবহারকারী বাটন প্রদর্শিত হয়। আবার নিচের দিকে স্ক্রল করা অবস্থায় উপরে মাউস পয়েন্টার নিলে অনুসন্ধান, আলাপ, আন্তঃভাষা সংযোগ, ইতিহাস ও দুই ধরণের সম্পাদনা লিংক প্রদর্শিত হয়।
 * 1) এখানে প্রদর্শিত বৈশিষ্ট্যগুলি কি আপনার জন্য উপকারী? এমন বিশেষ কোন বৈশিষ্ট্য বা ফিচার আছে কি, যা পঠন বা সম্পাদনার সময় আপনি পেতে চান?
 * ... নিচের প্রস্তাব অংশে বলেছি।
 * 1) নতুন শীর্ষচরণে উপলভ্য নয় কিন্তু আপনি পেতে চান এমন কোন বৈশিষ্ট্য আছে কি?
 * ... নেই।
 * 1) এখন, পৃষ্ঠার একদম উপরে স্ক্রোল করুন। কল্পনা করুন আপনি আপনার আলাপ পাতায় যেতে চান। কিভাবে যাবেন আপনি কি তা বের করতে পেরেছেন? এটি নিয়ে আপনার অনুভূতি কি?
 * ...ব্যবহারকারী আলাপ পাতায় যেতে পারিনি।
 * 1) আপনার কোন চিন্তা ভাবনা, কোন ধারণা বা প্রশ্ন থাকলে তা যোগ করুন।
 * ...নিচে যোগ করেছি

মতামত: MS Sakib

 * যা ভালো লেগেছে
 * 1) পাতার উপরে ব্যবহারকারী লিংকগুলো বিস্তৃত না রেখে একটি ড্রপডাউন মেনুর আওতায় নিয়ে আসাটা বেশ ভালো লেগেছে।
 * 2) আন্তঃভাষা সংযোগ বাম পাশে না রেখে উপরে রাখাটা পাঠকদের জন্য বেশ সুবিধাজনক।
 * 3) নিচের দিকে স্ক্রল করলে পাতার উপরে উইকিপিডিয়া বাটন ও ব্যবহারকারী বাটন প্রদর্শিত হওয়াটাও বেশ সুবিধাজনক।
 * 4) আবার নিচের দিকে স্ক্রল করা অবস্থায় উপরে মাউস পয়েন্টার নিলে অনুসন্ধান, আলাপ, আন্তঃভাষা সংযোগ, ইতিহাস ও দুই ধরণের সম্পাদনা লিংক থাকাটাও খুব ভালো লেগেছে।
 * 5) ডান দিকের পার্শ্বদণ্ডে ও ব্যবহারকারী মেনুতে নতুন কিছু প্রয়োজনিয় লিংক যুক্ত করাটা অবশ্যই ভালো উদ্যোগ।


 * যা ভালো লাগেনি
 * 1) ব্যবহারকারী মেনুতে ব্যবহারকারী আলাপ পাতার লিংক নেই।
 * 2) বর্তমানে প্রচলিত সংস্করণ চালু করায় সময়, বাংলা উইকিপিডিয়ার আলোচনাসভায় অভিযোগ করেছিলাম, পার্শ্বদণ্ড (সাইড বার) লুকানো হলে দুই পাশে বেশ অনেকটা ফাকা জায়গা থেকে যায়। পরে তা ঠিক করা হলেও, নতুন প্রস্তাবিত সংস্করণেও দুই পাশে বেশ অনেকটা জায়গা ফাকা থাকার সমস্যাটা আবার শুরু হয়েছে।
 * 3) সাইডবারে সম্প্রদায়ের আলোচনাসভার লিংক নেই, যা খুবই অসুবিধাজনক।
 * 4) নিচের দিকে স্ক্রল করলে পার্শ্বদণ্ড খুলতে আবার পাতার একদম উপরে যাতে হয় (বর্তমানেও তা-ই)। এটা না করে পাতার যেকোন স্থানে থাকা অবস্থায় পার্শ্বদণ্ড খোলা-লুকানোর ব্যবস্থা থাকলে ভালো হতো।
 * 5) পার্শ্বদণ্ডটি প্রয়োজনমতো বিস্তৃত হয়না। ফলে পার্শ্বদণ্ডের লিংকের লেখাগুলো পুরোপুরি প্রদর্শিত হয়না।


 * প্রস্তাব
 * 1) উপরের সমস্যাগুলোর সমাধান করা।
 * 2) পার্শ্বদণ্ডে ও ব্যবহারকারী মেনুতে কোন কোন লিংক প্রদর্শিত হবে তা যাতে ব্যবহারকারীরা তাদের পছন্দসমূহ-তে নির্ধারন করতে পারে, সেই ব্যবস্থা করা যেতে পারে।

-- MS Sakib (talk) 06:43, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

ValeJappo
--ValeJappo (talk) 06:43, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * Some icons, such as the 'edit source' ones are quite confusing.
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * A "header menu" will appear. I love this, however it should be fixed: it appears fully just when hovering it with the mouse. When you move a bit from it, it will disappear. I will make it appear when the mouse is a bit more down in respect to it, and most important, you should wait some seconds before making it disappear.
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * Those features are usefull, but I don't like any in particular.
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * Since there is written which section I am currently reading, I would like to be able to press on it and change section.
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * Yes, however I belive that using the new header (or however something different from the old one, it is very boring) even at the very top would be better.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * I really enjoyed using this prototype, I hope MediaWiki will be such soon. I noticed that the sections' index disappeared: I will add it on a corner. I would also display images aligned left/right in the blank space in the corners, when possible. Also, [edit] near the sections' name is very boring: you could change it with an icon. As suggested before, I would like to see a section switch added in the header, and I would remove the old one at the very top of the pages; some icons needs to be changed.

Nom d’utilisateur :31NOVA
--31NOVA (talk) 07:15, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) Prenez une minute pour observer la page, la faire défiler, observer plusieurs pages différentes. Quelles sont vos premières impressions ? Est-ce que quelque chose vous dérange ? vous semble pratique ? particulièrement intéressant ? (Gardez en tête que ceci est un prototype, donc il se peut que certains liens ne fonctionnent pas ou que vous rencontriez d'autres bugs ou bizarreries).
 * Un énorme recul concernant l'interface, c'est beaucoup trop petit, même la version mobile du site est plus agréable à naviguer qu'avec ce prototype. La petitesse de la place dédiée aux articles me dérange énormément. Le fait de devoir déplier la barre à gauche me dérange et en plus de cela bouge l'article ; déjà qu'il est tout petit, il doit être déplacé pour une simple barre ?! De plus, la page d'accueil est immonde avec cette interface. Néanmoins l'icône pour naviguer entre les différentes langues disponibles est utile.
 * 1) Faites défiler la page lentement. Puis remontez un peu. Que remarquez-vous ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * L'interface semble être intéressante pour lire des articles avec peu de texte en défilement automatique. Ça m'étonnerait cependant que beaucoup de gens fassent ça.
 * 1) Est-ce que les fonctionnalités présentées ici vous sont utiles ? Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles il est particulièrement utile de pouvoir accéder pendant qu'on lit ou qu'on modifie une page ?
 * Non, aucune à part l'icône pour naviguer entre les langues.
 * 1) Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles vous souhaiteriez pouvoir accéder, mais qui ne sont pas disponibles dans le nouvel entête ?
 * Rien ne semble manquer à première vue.
 * 1) À présent, remontez tout en haut de la page. Imaginez que vous souhaitez accéder à votre page de discussion. Arrivez-vous à trouver comment faire ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * Oui.
 * 1) Faites part ici de tout commentaire, idée ou question complémentaire.
 * Ne pas changer d'interface.

Username:Persia
با سپاس--Persia (talk) 07:20, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * مورد گیج‌کننده‌ای در طراحی جدید وجود ندارد و از نسخه قدیمی به مراتب بهتر است. اولین چیزی که نظر من رو جلب کرد سرعت باز شدن صفحات بود (:
 * نوار خودکار می توانند به هنگام ویرایش کمک کننده باشد.
 * اگر ویژگی قفل کردن نوار خودرکار به اضافه شود خوب است.
 * در نسخه فارسی کره ویکی زیر نوار جست‌جو قرار دارد و دیده نمی شود.
 * با اسکرول کردن به سمت پایین اگر ستون کناری هم در دسترس باشد بهتر است

Utilisatrice:Datsofelija

 * Prenez une minute pour observer la page, la faire défiler, observer plusieurs pages différentes. Quelles sont vos premières impressions ? Est-ce que quelque chose vous dérange ? vous semble pratique ? particulièrement intéressant ? (Gardez en tête que ceci est un prototype, donc il se peut que certains liens ne fonctionnent pas ou que vous rencontriez d'autres bugs ou bizarreries).
 * Infobox trop longue à mon gout et trop étendue...
 * Faites défiler la page lentement. Puis remontez un peu. Que remarquez-vous ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * Je remarque une bande en haut de la page et j'aime bien, mais ça rappelle un peu trop facebook...
 * Est-ce que les fonctionnalités présentées ici vous sont utiles ? Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles il est particulièrement utile de pouvoir accéder pendant qu'on lit ou qu'on modifie une page ?
 * accèder à la liste de suivi par exemple, ou à sa page de discussion ou celle de la page qu'on modifie...
 * Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles vous souhaiteriez pouvoir accéder, mais qui ne sont pas disponibles dans le nouvel entête ?
 * Non aucun.
 * À présent, remontez tout en haut de la page. Imaginez que vous souhaitez accéder à votre page de discussion. Arrivez-vous à trouver comment faire ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * Oui, j'ai trouvé, cela ne bouge pas et est plutôt pratique à mon gout.
 * Faites part ici de tout commentaire, idée ou question complémentaire.
 * Aucun autre commentaire... Datsofelija (talk) 07:25, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Username:Wikiviciao

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * No, pero le da un aspecto nuevo a Wikipedia, que creo que gustará bastante.
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * Está bien que no tengas que desplazarte hasta el incio de la página para editar.
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * Si. La lista de enlaces que hay en la derecha habitualmente.
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * La lista de enlaces que hay en la derecha habitualmente.
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * Sí, está bien.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * Me gustaría saber para cuando estarán disponibles estos cambios y si habrá una opción en preferencias para verlo como antes. Gracias. Wikiviciao (talk) 07:54, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Nome utente:Esc0fans

 * 1) Prenditi un minuto per dare un'occhiata, andare su e giù per la pagina, guardare un po' di pagine. Quali sono le tue impressioni iniziali? C'è qualcosa che trovi confuso? Conveniente? Particolarmente interessante? (Ricorda che dato che questo è un prototipo la maggioranza dei link potrebbero non funzionare e può capitare di incontrare altri bug o difetti).
 * (en)Personally I don't like it becuase it's similar to the mobile version and users won't have the mayority of the tools on the left side. I don't like the blue color for the template like stub or copypaste: I prefer the various color because is more simple to explain how is important to do something now. Id don't like the languages menu because is difficult to find the languages and there anren't the stars of quality and the locker of a protected page on the voices. |||(it)Personalmente non mi piace perché la barra laterale con tutti gli strumenti è a scomparsa. Anche il cambio di colori degli avvisi è inutile: i colori aiutano a capire la gravità del problema. Non mi piace per nulla quel menù per le lingue e non sono segnalate i siboli delle voci di qualià o delle protezioni
 * 1) Scorri lentamente verso il basso la pagina. Poi torna un po' in su. Cosa hai notato? Come valuti questa tua esperienza?
 * (en):In my opinion is like the actual version|||(it) penso sia uguale alla versione attuale
 * 1) Le funzionalità che hai visto qui ti sono utili? Ci sono altre funzionalità a cui sarebbe particolarmente utile accedere mentre stai leggendo o editando?
 * (en) I find the menu in the left useless because to use lots of tools you have to open a menu and you waste time|||(it) TRovo inultile il menu laterale da aprire e chiudere perché fa perdere tempo
 * 1) Ci sono funzionalità che ti piacerebbe avere accessibili ma non sono presenti nella nuova header?
 * (en)In this header I don't find the disambiguation marker ||| (it) Non trovo il rilevatore di disambigue
 * 1) Ora scorri fino all'inizio della pagina. Immagina di voler passare alla pagina di discussione. Come pensi che si possa fare? Che ne pensi di questa esperienza?
 * (en) I don't like, I found it unconfortable for me|||(it) non mi è piaciuta, la ho trovarta scomoda
 * 1) Se hai idee, commenti o domande finali, aggiungile.
 * (en) Please put the languages under the other wikis: I find too difficlut find italian when tehere's more than 10 languages ||| (it) Per favore non spostate il menu lingue con questa impostazione è difficile trovare it.wiki

P.S. i'm form it.wiki so i'll answer in English and in italian--Esc0fans (talk)

Username:Saifunny

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * The page layout is more clean and modern, similar to the mobile version. I liked it as it was before, but I think I may get used to this layout. The thing I like better in the current desktop version in comparison the the mobile version, is that it is a lot more easy to find actions.
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * It's nice that when scrolling up the navbar shows the title of the article and the current section. Why isn't this also the behavior when scrolling down?
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * The features I use most: User page, user talk, watchlist, alerts and notifications, editing a page and a specific paragraph, version history,  canceling a version.
 * The features I use less, but still use: Moving a page, asking for a page to be deleted.
 * I think that editing a page should be very easy as it is now. I think that the visual-editor editing button that always appears next to the history of the article (in the Hebrew Wikipedia) should remain.
 * I like the editing buttons on every section, it's probably my most used feature.
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * I think that the watchlist should also appear outside of the hidden menu - next to the alerts and notifications buttons (as it is now). It is very useful to see the number of changes updating in live in front of my eyes all the time. Hiding it will make my Wikipedia experience harder because I'll have to explicitly click on it and go inside. I like it that you can see the changes and mark them as seen without going to a different page.
 * There is a lot of place in the side of the page. Why not to make the sidebar open by default? I find it easier to navigate in Wikipedia this way.

Saifunny (talk) 07:58, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * Actually, I didn't find how to do so. The navbar talk is probably the article talk. In the hidden menu next to the user name I didn't find that option. I think this page should also be very easy to access.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * In the Hebrew version, the search box is covering the Wikipedia logo. I think it should move more to the left - there is a lot of empty space in there.
 * In the current desktop version it is hard to find another users' contributions page. If you can make it easy to find from the user page, as it is in the mobile version, that would be great.

Gebruikersnaam:Laurier

 * 1) Neem even de tijd om rond te kijken, de pagina op en neer te gaan en naar een paar verschillende pagina's te kijken. Wat is uw initiële impressie? Is er iets verwarrend? Handig? Interessant? (Houdt er rekening mee dat dit een prototype is en sommige koppelingen niet werken en er mogelijk bugs of andere problemen zijn die u kunt tegenkomen.)
 * Geen inhoudsopgave vind ik een gemis. Hele tekst is smal, ik wil gewoon de hele breedte van het venster gebruiken. Als ik dat te breed vind verklein ik liever het window. Verschil in opmaak tussen kopje 3 en 4 onvoldoende. Talen bovenaan is mooi, maar je moet er eerst op klikken ipv dat er alvast enkele links direct aanklikbaar zijn, dat is niet mooi: elke extra klik t.o.v. huidige situatie is teveel. Kortom: als lezer heb ik enkele verbeterpunten, maar op zich ziet het er wel mooi uit. Als Wikipediaan kijk ik er anders tegenaan: ik kan niet vinden waar ik met één klik naar mijn volglijst, mijn gebruikerspagina en mijn overlegpagina kan komen. Volglijst vind ik terug na heen en weer scrollen en
 * 1) Scroll langzaam naar beneden. Scroll nu een klein beetje terug. Wat valt u op? Wat is uw mening over deze ervaring?
 * Je ziet het Wiki-icoontje en de naam van het artikel plus kopje waar je je op dat moment bevindt. Ook direct bewerklinks en link naar overlegpagina. Prettig! Je kunt pas naar je eigen volglijst of voorkeuren na een klik op drie puntjes (menu). Dat vind ik erg onprettig: elke extra klik t.o.v. huidige situatie is teveel. Ik gebruik mijn volglijst erg veel, en heb RSI. Ik zie ook nu pas dat de 'bewerk'-link pas na heen en weer scrollen tevoorschijn komt, dus niet als je bovenaan bent! Dat vind ik absoluut niet gewenst. Bij de nieuwe 'scroll-header' zouden geen andere functies moeten staan dan bovenaan.
 * 1) Is de functionaliteit die u hier ziet nuttig voor u? Zijn er functies die specifiek nuttig zijn bij het lezen of bewerken?
 * Het zou heel fijn zijn als je de gifjes ook gestopt konden worden, zodat er geen beweging in beeld is. Beweging in beeld kan erg afleidend zijn voor veel lezers.
 * 1) Is er functionaliteit die u zou willen gebruiken die niet beschikbaar is in de nieuwe header?
 * Directe link naar Special:GlobalWatchlist op meta . wikimedia
 * 1) Scroll terug naar de bovenkant van de pagina. Stel u voor dat u terug naar uw overlegpagina wilt gaan. Kunt u er achter komen hoe u dat moet doen? Wat vindt u van deze ervaring?
 * Ik kan niet vinden hoe ik op mijn gebruikerspagina en mijn overlegpagina kan komen. Volglijst vind ik terug na heen en weer scrollen en klik op menu (is extra klik, dus verslechtering), maar mijn gebruikerspagina en mijn overlegpagina zie ik helemaal niet meer. Onacceptabel, sorry.
 * 1) Heeft u nog andere gedachten, ideeën of vragen?
 * Lijkt voorbereiding op unificatie van gebruikerservaring op phone, tablet en desktop/laptop. Op zich mooi, maar dat kan qua schermbreedte-gebruik zeker ook anders.

利用者名:Glaceonwiki
以上になります. 提案や作業などお疲れさまです. ありがとうございます. --Glaceonwiki (talk) 08:57, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) ここで手を止めて全体を見回してみましょう. まず第一印象は？ なにか分かりにくい点は？ 便利な点は？ これは面白そうだという点は？（留意点はこれは試作版のため動作しないリンクがあるかもしれないことで、その他、バグやおかしな挙動に遭遇するかもしれません. ）
 * ...第一印象は見た目がシンプルで見やすいということです. モバイル版の見た目に近づいた気がします. 初めは「最近の出来事」などの今までサイドバーにあった機能がどこにいったのだろうかと迷いましたが、ハンバーガーメニューを開くということが一度わかってしまえば大丈夫でした. サイドバーにあった機能はあまり使用頻度が高くないので、一つにまとめてしまうのは視認性向上につながっていると感じました. 検索窓が見やすくていいですね.
 * 1) ページの下に向かってゆっくりスクロールします. 次にわずかに画面を上へスクロールしなおします. なにか気づいた点はありませんか？ この操作をしてみて何か感じたことはありますか？
 * ...面白い機能ですが少しチラチラしてうざったいですね. 今は1pxのスクロールでもヘッダが降りてくるようですが、例えば3行分など、まとまった量を一度に上へスクロールしたときのみ降りてきてほしいです. でなければサイズをやや小さくして、常に表示してしまうのも一案.
 * 1) ここで示した機能はあなた自身にとって役に立つと思いますか？ （その中に）閲覧や編集をするとき、特にこれは便利だと思う機能はありましたか？
 * ...ページのどこにいても履歴や編集ができるというのは、ウィキペディアン目線から見れば便利ですね.
 * 1) この新しいヘッダにはないけれど、使えるとよいと思う機能はなんでしょうか？
 * ...上へスクロールしたときに表示されるヘッダに記事名と節名が表示されると思うのですが、その節名の隣に∨字型のアイコンを配置して、そのアイコンから他の読みたい節に飛べるといいと思いました. 長大な記事を読むときでも目的の情報に到達しやすくなります.
 * 1) では、ページ最上部へスクロールしてください. ご自分のトークページを開きたいと想定します. どうすればよいか、わかりますか？ この手順についてどう感じましたか？
 * ...残念ながらトークページの開き方はよくわかりませんでした. 自分のユーザー名が表示されると思しき人型のアイコンを押すことで自分の利用者ページに飛ぶのかトークページに飛ぶのか不明瞭です. できれば「…」アイコンの中に入れ込むか、吹き出しマークのようなものを配置していただきたいです.
 * 1) 最後に自由記述式でご意見、提案、質問をお書きください.
 * ...①アラートと通知を一本化してはどうでしょうか？分ける意味があまり感じられないので. ②検索窓の隣のあたりにでもGoogleの"I'm feeling lucky"よろしく、おまかせ表示のボタンを配置してみてはどうでしょう？おまかせ表示は個人的に大好きな機能のひとつなので. まあ重要度は低いですが. ③記事の横幅と文字サイズをもう少し大きくしてほしいです. 元のMediawikiと同じくらいでお願いしたい. 特に文字サイズが小さくなったことで可読性が下がりました. 文章主体のコンテンツなのだから、文章の読みやすさが何をおいても第一.

Username:Geraki

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * It looks nice and clean, but:
 * 1) * The sidebar displays a vertical overflow bar even when there is no overflow. Also the sidebar is too narrow, it will be a problem for non english wikis. Also the sidebar uses small font-size: make it at least 0.8em.
 * 2) * In a narrow window with the sidebar open, the article text overflows a couple of characters without a horizontal overflow bar (should not overflow at all). I believe that displaying the sidebar on top of the article text (like in Minerva) would be a lot better. In current Vector I am allowed to narrow the window even more and it just reflows the text up to the point I can narrow it more.
 * 3) * In a narrow window with the sidebar open, the search box dissapears and the only way to search is to scroll down to display it in the floating header.
 * 4) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * I like the top bar, but: I would be better to be sticky (always displayed) than appearing only when scrolling up. Make the 'W' icon be a real link as the Wikipedia logo. Why to remove the hamburger icon? Why remove the alerts and notices icons?
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * All are one click or two clicks away. Editing icons and Watch icon are the most useful. Then alert and notices icons, and for some users and wikis the Recent Changes and CP and Village Pump items in sidebar.
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * Watch icon is missing when scrolling down!
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * ??? Ok. Now where did you hide it?
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * I would like the sidebar menu to float on top of the content on narrow displays like the user bar and like in minerva and timeless skins. On wider displays, depending on the user's preference about the max-width, display left of the content when on top of page, then available from the hambourger icon.

Username: Marcel Bergeret

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * I don't see the Content table, which is a problem in long articles. Also, the text doesn't fit the width of the window, it seems that it is thought to be seen in a vertical screen (which I don't envision to use in a desktop).
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * I like the top bar; the information about which section is displayed is very nice. But why hide it? In a desktop, the space on the screen shouldn't be an issue. How can I keep it always visible?
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * Features are useful. I don't have in mind additional features to be added but sure there will be some. Is the top bar configurable?
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * 2) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * No, I haven't figured out how to get to my talk page...
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.

Nom d’utilisateur : Quarante-quatre

 * 1) Prenez une minute pour observer la page, la faire défiler, observer plusieurs pages différentes. Quelles sont vos premières impressions ? Est-ce que quelque chose vous dérange ? vous semble pratique ? particulièrement intéressant ? (Gardez en tête que ceci est un prototype, donc il se peut que certains liens ne fonctionnent pas ou que vous rencontriez d'autres bugs ou bizarreries).
 * Pour les pages comme la Lune, la Terre et autre qui ont un gros bloc d'information, je n'aime pas la nouvelle présentation qui place ce bloc au tout début, avant tout, sans bordure. C'est assez moche et moins pratique. Avant il était sur le côté et visible en même temps que l'introduction et le sommaire. Ce qui permettait de trouver certains complément d'information en même qu'on lisait l'introduction. L'idéal serait qu'il soit sur le côté "dans l'espace vide" et qu'il soit toujours visible quand on scroll sur l'article. De plus le sommaire n'est plus visible. Sur Smartphone on peut le voir en glissant le côté, mais ici il n'est plus du tout là, pour les longs articles, c'est indispensable d'avoir le sommaire pour aller à la section qui nous intéresse.
 * 1) Faites défiler la page lentement. Puis remontez un peu. Que remarquez-vous ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * Le fait que le menu réapparait en remontant est bien. En revanche je n'arrive pas à l'utiliser, je ne sais pas si c'est dû au prototype.
 * 1) Est-ce que les fonctionnalités présentées ici vous sont utiles ? Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles il est particulièrement utile de pouvoir accéder pendant qu'on lit ou qu'on modifie une page ?
 * L'appercu de la page quand on survole un lien n'est pas dispo (peut-être dû au prototype), pour moi c'est une fonctionnalité essentiel. Je l'utilise tout le temps, surtout quand je connais pas une notion, personne ou autre sans pour autant avoir à ouvrir un nouvelle article. Peut-être aussi rajouter au niveau de chaque titre de l'article une icône pour obtenir le lien hypertexte de cette section, sans avoir à revenir au sommaire. Le fait que l'interface soit épuré pour se concentrer uniquement sur l'article est vraiment bien.
 * 1) Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles vous souhaiteriez pouvoir accéder, mais qui ne sont pas disponibles dans le nouvel entête ?
 * Peut-être savoir si l'article dans tel ou tel langue est de qualité ou non.
 * 1) À présent, remontez tout en haut de la page. Imaginez que vous souhaitez accéder à votre page de discussion. Arrivez-vous à trouver comment faire ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * Je ne la trouve pas
 * 1) Faites part ici de tout commentaire, idée ou question complémentaire.
 * Peut-être rajouter l'icône des menus de la barre devant le texte des anciens menu qui sont en haut de l'article, pour garder une cohérence dans l'ensemble.

Username:Dim Grits

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * Heading not relevance to what I see and what me shown.
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * Why navbar hidden partly (W leftside and User rightside), but not pinned on demand for navigation Title#part? Dynamic bars are not acceptable for everyone. Keep option. How call leftsidebar from bottom? Add symbol menu (☰) to topnavbar.
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * The main thing is the less scrolling the better.
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * It,s not easy question after few minutes introduction.
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * I didn't find. Sorry, I'm very long in Wikipedia, maybe very old for those 🍆💦.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * Related pages on bottom.

Username:Tuvalkin
Tuvalkin (talk) 09:53, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * Not confusing because I’m used to crappy websites that work like this. But hugely disappointing, although not surprising, as this has been the trend for a while. Look, just make sure Monobook is undisturbed by this and I will go on working.
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * Some items follow me around as I scroll, instead of being anchored in their place. It’s distracting and annoying, it’s condescending and patronizing.
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * No and no.
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * Maybe, but don’t worry about that. Users can develop stuff users need. You just make sure the donations our work accrues are not all squandered away to pay for stunts like this.
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * The link to the talk page is, as ever have been since talk pages exist, clearly indicated. This is not the 1980s anymore, people don’t need to be taught how to use computers, really: It’s a link, click it. Stop trying to improve what’s not broken.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * It’s incredible how something that was supposed to be a grass-roots movement so quickly degenerated into the same kind of nightmare corporate-based outfits do too.

Nom d’utilisateur:Wizly-08

 * 1) Prenez une minute pour observer la page, la faire défiler, observer plusieurs pages différentes. Quelles sont vos premières impressions ? Est-ce que quelque chose vous dérange ? vous semble pratique ? particulièrement intéressant ? (Gardez en tête que ceci est un prototype, donc il se peut que certains liens ne fonctionnent pas ou que vous rencontriez d'autres bugs ou bizarreries).
 * L'infobox est insérée de manière étrange, elle ne prend qu'une moitié d'écran sans pouvoir lire le début de l'article à gauche comme avant. De plus, sans encadrement de l'infobox, il est facile de se perdre dans la page. Le texte quand à lui est très large et ne donne pas envie d'être lu. Les bandeaux sont illisibles et ne renseignent pas clairement sur le problème.
 * 1) Faites défiler la page lentement. Puis remontez un peu. Que remarquez-vous ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * La galerie d'image s'affiche en vertical, ce qui oblige l'utilisateur a beaucoup "scroller" vers le bas pour passer des informations.
 * 1) Est-ce que les fonctionnalités présentées ici vous sont utiles ? Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles il est particulièrement utile de pouvoir accéder pendant qu'on lit ou qu'on modifie une page ?
 * Le haut de la page est plus efficace.
 * 1) Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles vous souhaiteriez pouvoir accéder, mais qui ne sont pas disponibles dans le nouvel entête ?
 * Le sommaire n'est pas accessible.
 * 1) À présent, remontez tout en haut de la page. Imaginez que vous souhaitez accéder à votre page de discussion. Arrivez-vous à trouver comment faire ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * Sur ce point, trouver les pages de discussion ou les fonctionnalités utilisateur est plus agréable. Cliquer sur les trois petites points pour y trouver ses informations est une bonne idée, déjà standardisée sur de nombreux sites et donc devenu intuitif.
 * 1) Faites part ici de tout commentaire, idée ou question complémentaire.
 * Il y a de bonnes idées, mais cette version ne doit pas sortir dans cet état à cause d'un trop grand manque de visibilité et de clarté.

Kostal.david8

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * It looks strange, but that's probably just because I'm so used to the current layout. The page content seems off-center. Left navigation menu seems a little out of place. Overall it's probably easier to read due to the reduced text width. Language picker (in this form) is more annoying because you need 2 clicks to change a language compared to the current version. Style of the page/discussion/read/source header is really out of place with the newer design (and I honestly like the older "fade out" design that this header uses more).
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * Can be pretty useful for some people, but I don't feel strongly about it in any particular way.
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * Not really, except maybe languages. If anything, I would like to have access to page contents without having to scroll all the way up.
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * Page contents would be useful.
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * I would expect to click my username at the top left, but that doesn't seem to work in the prototype.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * The design looks very inconsistent in this prototype and I just feel like I like the classic design more - it's more friendly (but of course that's what I'm used to). The reduced width is something that's necessary though, as Wikipedia is almost unreadable on very wide screens.

Martin Urbanec

 * 1) Na chvíli se rozhlížejte, posunujte stránku nahoru a dolů, zkuste více různých stránek. Jaké jsou vaše prvotní dojmy? Je zde něco matoucího? Nebo praktického? Obzvlášt zajímavého? (Mějte na paměti, že jde o prototyp, kde většina odkazů ve skutečnosti nefunguje, a můžete narazit i na další chyby nebo jiné výstřednosti.)
 * There's a lot of blank space on both sides of the page, which I don't like, because it feels "there should be something". I don't have an extra large screen in my laptop (15.6 inch), yet the space has significant size.
 * 1) Pomalu posunujte stránku dolů. Nyní zase trochu nahoru. Co pozorujete? Co si o tom myslíte?
 * When I scroll a bit down, a part of the menu shows up (the user submenu/profile icon shows up, and the Wikipedia icon). I think the full menu should show up, as it can be helpful to immediately see talk button, or the search bar, without having to scroll all the way up. When I scroll a bit up, the full menu appears, which is an improvement, but I don't like the half-menu appearance.
 * 1) Jsou předváděné funkce pro vás užitečné? Jsou zde nějaké funkce, ke kterým je obzvlášť užitečné mít během čtení a editace přístup?
 * Generally useful, yes. It could be useful to have the move/delete/protect convo available from the upper menu as well, just as there are icons for editing with source/VE.
 * 1) Jsou zde nějaké funkce, ke kterým byste chtěli mít přístup a nové nadpisy je nenabízejí?
 * All features seem to be available via the old way (ie. the menu that's directly above the article title). So, I don't feel that there is a feature missing.
 * 1) Nyní posuňte stránku úplně nahoru. Představte si, že chcete navštívit svoji diskusní stránku. Přijdete na to, jak to provést? Jak to na vás působí?
 * It looks like an intuitive way, employed by many other sites.
 * 1) Přidejte prosím jakékoliv vaše úvahy, nápady nebo otázky.
 * I'm not sure that this would be liked by the cswiki community, considering the annoying blank space on both sides. It almost looks like it is there to add adds ;).

--Martin Urbanec (talk) 10:10, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Nom d’utilisateur : DpLed
avec le texte à gauche comme dans la version actuelle, mais s’il faut que le texte commence en dessous de l’infobox il me semble mieux que celle-ci soit centrée.
 * 1) Prenez une minute pour observer la page, la faire défiler, observer plusieurs pages différentes. Quelles sont vos premières impressions ? Est-ce que quelque chose vous dérange ? vous semble pratique ? particulièrement intéressant ? (Gardez en tête que ceci est un prototype, donc il se peut que certains liens ne fonctionnent pas ou que vous rencontriez d'autres bugs ou bizarreries).
 * Le nouveau thème est moderne et agréable à première vue, j’aurais simplement quelques suggestions pour l’améliorer encore :
 * La police de caractère est très moderne mais je la trouve assez fatiguante à lire sur un corps de texte long. Je la verrais bien remplacée par une police à empattement — Linux Libertine serait très bien —, car ces polices sont plus agréables à lire sur un corps de texte long — c’est pourquoi presque tous les livres sont composés avec ces polices. J’agrandirai également la taille de la police, que je trouve un peu petite, ce qui fatigue l’œil.
 * J’ai remarqué que le texte commence désormais en dessous de l’infobox. J’aimais bien les infobox alignées à droite
 * C’est une observation de longue date, mais si le moteur Wikimédia le permet, je préfèrerais voir le corps de texte justifié (avec ou sans coupures de mots), ce qui rendrait la page plus agréable à voir.


 * 1) Faites défiler la page lentement. Puis remontez un peu. Que remarquez-vous ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * 2) Est-ce que les fonctionnalités présentées ici vous sont utiles ? Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles il est particulièrement utile de pouvoir accéder pendant qu'on lit ou qu'on modifie une page ?
 * J’aime bien la petite barre d’outils qui s’affiche en haut de la page, mais je ne vois pas pourquoi elle devrait être masquée quand on défile la page, cela fait un mouvement lorsqu’on remonte, ce qui peut distraire de la lecture.
 * 1) Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles vous souhaiteriez pouvoir accéder, mais qui ne sont pas disponibles dans le nouvel entête ?
 * Il pourrait être utile d’ajouter un bouton pour modifier la page dans la barre d’outil, pour éviter de devoir tout remonter. De plus, je pense qu’il serait avantageux qu’une table des matières s’affiche lorsqu’on clique sur le nom de la partie dans laquelle on se trouve, encore un fois pour éviter de devoir remonter toute la page.
 * 1) À présent, remontez tout en haut de la page. Imaginez que vous souhaitez accéder à votre page de discussion. Arrivez-vous à trouver comment faire ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * Je n’y arrive pas mais ce doit être parce que ce n’est pas encore implémenté, sans quoi je crois voir comment faire.
 * 1) Faites part ici de tout commentaire, idée ou question complémentaire....

Username:CapoFantasma97 PS: This page is damn broken

 * 1) The fact the article is not centered but moved to the side is quite distracting. There is too much white, it could've helped to use some light gray to split parts of the page; without a dark theme browser extension, it's unbearable to stare at.
 * 2) The article's header design is alright: it contains all the important features; the choice to add a language button on top is interesting, but also time-wasting, as it's another menu to open before one can access the languages. The lack of sidebars is ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE: you have lots of empty space, but you had to put it inside a useless hamburger menu, just to waste even more of your users' time... And for what may I ask since it's merely a few links, written in tiny text, that don't even make proper use of the space on the side? No one asked to make Wikipedia more like Mobile Wikipedia for PCs. While having a proper layout for the article helps with reading (including limiting the width), removing features and hiding others behind menus is just detrimental for everyone. To my understanding, some of you at WikiMedia want to "make a seamless experience among multiple device types"... well, that belief is FLAT OUT WRONG if you think it has to be done by REDUCING FUNCTIONALITY for desktop browsers. If you're smart enough, you should know that different devices have different designs, because they have DIFFERENT NEEDS. Phones have reduced screen estate, and make use of touch-screens, which does not yield accurate inputs (sausage fingers!). They need ways to make the best out of small screens, while also giving big buttons to easily touch them. PCs have large horizontal screens. They don't need to hide important elements behind menus, because there is plenty of space that would otherwise go wasted. While mice are somewhat accurate, fine prints are hard to read, so the excessively small text is a no-go.
 * 3) It seems intuitive enough that clicking on my username, it should take me to my userspace/discussion page. It doesn't work in the demo but seems obvious.
 * 4) This is terrible. The new Vector theme is instead what you should look for. Improve from that with PC user needs.

PS: The New Section button is broken. Consider fixing it, will ya? --CapoFantasma97 (talk) 10:25, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Username:shahramrashidi
No. I think it is ok.
 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience? No problem
 * 2) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing? i have no idea now  and must check it in real requirement.
 * 3) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header? I think it is ok.
 * 4) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience? It is good.
 * 5) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header? I think it is ok.
 * 2) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience? It is good.
 * 3) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.

Username:Civvì

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * On the Italian version of the page the text appears only at the end of the infobox, this is annoying. Plenty of empty space on the sides, at the beginning I thought this is a mobile version.
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * Menu appearing and disappearing, needs some time to figure out when it appears and disappears, scrolling up, scrolling down, hovering. I don't like things like this, hopefully there will be an option to have it always there.
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * I understand that this is a version for readers, I hope that editors will have the choice to stay with the current version, perhaps through an option in the preferences?
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * Do you mean the header or the disappearing header? The option to see the sidebar, at the moment you can only open the sidebar when you are at the top of the page.
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * No, I couldn't figure out where it is.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * Has this all been tested with screen readers for visually impaired readers and users? Has anybody thought about asking them about UX of this prototype?

Nom d’utilisateur :Lamiot
Faites part ici de tout commentaire, idée ou question complémentaire. En utilisation sur écran d'ordinateur, le bandeau bleu à gauche pourrait être permanent
 * 1) Prenez une minute pour observer la page, la faire défiler, observer plusieurs pages différentes. Quelles sont vos premières impressions ? Est-ce que quelque chose vous dérange ? vous semble pratique ? particulièrement intéressant ? (Gardez en tête que ceci est un prototype, donc il se peut que certains liens ne fonctionnent pas ou que vous rencontriez d'autres bugs ou bizarreries).
 * Je ne vois pas d'onglet "modifier/corriger" en haut de page (ce qui me manque un peu, qui devrait être très évident, aux moins pour les articles courts pour inviter les nouveaux à participer et les anciens à améliorer ... Je n'aime pas du tout la disposition des images les unes au dessus des autres plutôt que regroupées plutôt horizontalement (est-ce un bug ?)
 * 1) Faites défiler la page lentement. Puis remontez un peu. Que remarquez-vous ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * apparition d'un bandeau d'outils... je n'ai pas compris tout de suite, et il disparait trop facilement je trouve... pour les vieux comme moi, avoir le bandeau d'outils en permanence est utile (un effort cérébral de moins pour rester concentrer sur ce que je veux faire)
 * 1) Est-ce que les fonctionnalités présentées ici vous sont utiles ? Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles il est particulièrement utile de pouvoir accéder pendant qu'on lit ou qu'on modifie une page ?
 * (le sommaire automatique en haut de page)...
 * 1) Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles vous souhaiteriez pouvoir accéder, mais qui ne sont pas disponibles dans le nouvel entête ?
 * un gros bouton "modifier"... un lien "traduire cette page" ?
 * 1) À présent, remontez tout en haut de la page. Imaginez que vous souhaitez accéder à votre page de discussion. Arrivez-vous à trouver comment faire ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * non, pas trouvé... ou est-ce le mot "talk" (si oui, un peu ambigu, on peut penser qu'il s'agit d'un lien vers un chat)
 * : la forme "très bandeau", me donne l'impression d'une adaptation uniquement pour le smartphone, elle force à défiler/scroller plus, (c'est un peu énervant quant on sait que ce serait "mieux" autrement, et => gaspillage de plus de papier à l'impression ?)
 * 1) Dans la box, en haut de page, je préférerai veaiment une justification du texte à gauche, plutôt que centré, et dans jun cadre... L'ancienne présentation des box, dans un cadre, avec un titre, à droite de l'introduction me semble préférable.
 * 2) j'aime mieux voir mon nom/ou pseudo près de ma silhouette pour me rappeler que j'ai aussi une page de présentation/dissussion, à éventuellement mettre à jour (ou pour vérifier qu'elle n'a pas été vandalisée.
 * 3)  il y a trop de "vide" en tête de page, en particulier quand il y a une image étroite et haute (exemple).

Nome utente: Mannivu

 * 1) Prenditi un minuto per dare un'occhiata, andare su e giù per la pagina, guardare un po' di pagine. Quali sono le tue impressioni iniziali? C'è qualcosa che trovi confuso? Conveniente? Particolarmente interessante? (Ricorda che dato che questo è un prototipo la maggioranza dei link potrebbero non funzionare e può capitare di incontrare altri bug o difetti).
 * Sembra più una versione mobile, che una versione desktop. Per la lettura sembra ottima, ma per chi vuole contribuire attivamente all'enciclopedia è tutto nascosto: nessuna categoria visibile, non esiste indice e da desktop mi sembra poco funzionale
 * 1) Scorri lentamente verso il basso la pagina. Poi torna un po' in su. Cosa hai notato? Come valuti questa tua esperienza?
 * Avere un template a galleggiare da solo invece che essere integrato nel testo mi sembra una grossa mancanza: prima di implementare modifiche, bisognerebbe assicurarsi che funzionino come ci si aspetta in tutte le versioni linguistiche.
 * 1) Le funzionalità che hai visto qui ti sono utili? Ci sono altre funzionalità a cui sarebbe particolarmente utile accedere mentre stai leggendo o editando?
 * La mancanza di un indice è piuttosto grave: come faccio a navigare velocemente verso una sezione?
 * 1) Ci sono funzionalità che ti piacerebbe avere accessibili ma non sono presenti nella nuova header?
 * 2) Ora scorri fino all'inizio della pagina. Immagina di voler passare alla pagina di discussione. Come pensi che si possa fare? Che ne pensi di questa esperienza?
 * È estremamente complicato capire dove si trovi il pulsante per la mia pagina di discussione: è la campanella? il vassoio? devo aprire il menu a tendina? Troppo complicato e oscuro.
 * 1) Se hai idee, commenti o domande finali, aggiungile.
 * Credo che allineare in modo così drastico versione mobile e versione desktop non porti beneficio a chi visita Wikipedia da PC e, soprattutto, sembra rendere molto peggiore l'esperienza di chi fa l'enciclopedia. -- M annivu &middot;&#32; ✉  10:40, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Credo che allineare in modo così drastico versione mobile e versione desktop non porti beneficio a chi visita Wikipedia da PC e, soprattutto, sembra rendere molto peggiore l'esperienza di chi fa l'enciclopedia. -- M annivu &middot;&#32; ✉  10:40, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Nombre de usuario:Wiki LIC

 * 1) Tómese un minuto para mirar alrededor. ¿Cuáles son algunas de sus impresiones iniciales? ¿Hay algo que encuentra confuso? ¿Conveniente? ¿Particularmente interesante? (Dado que esto es un prototipo la mayoría de los links no funcionan puede que se encuentre otros bugs o defectos).
 * Veo que se han despejado los márgenes de la hoja (al menos en la tablet que manejo), pero que no se aprovechan para dar más espacio al contenido.
 * 1) Desplace despacio la página hacia abajo. Ahora haga scroll hacia arriba un poco. ¿Qué   nota? ¿Qué   piensa de esta experiencia?
 * Bien, como de costumbre...
 * 1) ¿Son las características mostradas aquí útiles para usted? ¿Alguna de las nuevas características es particularmente útil para tener acceso a la hora de leer o editar?
 * 2) ¿Hay alguna característica a la que quiera acceder que no encuentre en la nueva cabecera?
 * No veo una opción para editar el artículo completo (aunque supongo que aparecerá en su momento en "Ver código")
 * 1) Ahora, vuelva al inicio de la página. Imagine que quiere ir a la página de discusión. ¿Cómo lo haría? ¿Cómo ve la experiencia?
 * Bien, como siempre
 * 1) Por favor añada cualquier idea final, comentario o preguntas.
 * ¿Sería posible que el texto quedase justificado a la derecha? (es decir, que el editor de texto consiguiera alinear las líneas de texto por la derecha). Por ejemplo, la web "wiki2.org" lo hace perfectamente...
 * Otro problema habitual es la interferencia que se produce cuando se insertan seguidas imágenes alineadas a la derecha y a la izquierda (unas "empujan" hacia abajo a las otras). ¿Habría alguna manera de resolverlo?
 * Otro problema habitual es la interferencia que se produce cuando se insertan seguidas imágenes alineadas a la derecha y a la izquierda (unas "empujan" hacia abajo a las otras). ¿Habría alguna manera de resolverlo?

Nom d’utilisateur : Jules*
Jules* (talk) 10:53, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) Prenez une minute pour observer la page, la faire défiler, observer plusieurs pages différentes. Quelles sont vos premières impressions ? Est-ce que quelque chose vous dérange ? vous semble pratique ? particulièrement intéressant ? (Gardez en tête que ceci est un prototype, donc il se peut que certains liens ne fonctionnent pas ou que vous rencontriez d'autres bugs ou bizarreries).
 * L'affichage sur une largeur réduite est pratique et facilite la lecture. En revanche, l'infobox apparaît comme un cheveu sur la soupe : elle ne prend qu'un tiers de la largeur du texte et est alignée à gauche, c'est très moche. Peut-être l'afficher dans la marge ? Ou revoir son format ? [edit : visiblement c'est un bug juste pour fr:Lune, car le prototype de en:Moon affiche correctement l'infobox à droite, avec le texte de l'introduction à sa gauche.
 * Le fait que les marges blanches à gauche et à droite du texte de l'article ne soient pas de la même taille est perturbant. La marge gauche est plus large, sans doute car le menu latéral gauche peut s'y déployer. Àmha, le menu latéral gauche devrait se déployer en-dehors de cette marge blanche, et cette marge blanche devrait être de taille équivalente de chaque côté du texte.
 * 1) Faites défiler la page lentement. Puis remontez un peu. Que remarquez-vous ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * Je trouve pratique que l'entête réapparaisse dès que l'on scrolle vers le haut. Mais ce serait encore plus pratique qu'elle soit réellement fixe et s'affiche en permanence (donc y compris lorsque l'on scrolle vers le bas) ; ou au moins que ce soit une option (plus utile pour les contributeurs que pour les simples lecteurs).
 * Par ailleurs, le fait que l'entête s'affiche en mouse-hover sur le haut de la page est àmha une mauvaise idée : j'ai voulu cliquer sur le lien [modifier] d'un titre de section situé en haut de mon écran, et lorsque mon curseur a voulu se déplacer sur le lien, l'entête est apparue par-dessus le titre de section et le lien [modifier], m'empêchant de cliquer. Ce n'est pas pratique.
 * Enfin, lorsque l'on scrolle vers le bas puis vers le haut et que l'entête apparaît, si l'on mouse-hover l'entête puisque notre curseur quitte la zone de l'entête, cette dernière disparaît. Ce n'est pas un comportement logique à mes yeux.
 * 1) Est-ce que les fonctionnalités présentées ici vous sont utiles ? Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles il est particulièrement utile de pouvoir accéder pendant qu'on lit ou qu'on modifie une page ?
 * Oui.
 * 1) Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles vous souhaiteriez pouvoir accéder, mais qui ne sont pas disponibles dans le nouvel entête ?
 * L'étoile pour ajouter à la LDS devrait figurer à côté des icônes d'édition et d'historique.
 * 1) À présent, remontez tout en haut de la page. Imaginez que vous souhaitez accéder à votre page de discussion. Arrivez-vous à trouver comment faire ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * Non. Je vois deux icônes pour les notifications, mon nom d'utilisateur (le lien ne fonctionne pas, mais je présume qu'il mène vers la page utilisateur), mais aucun lien vers ma page de discussion. (Il y a bien un lien vers la page de discussion de l'article, mais c'est tout.)
 * 1) Faites part ici de tout commentaire, idée ou question complémentaire.
 * Il serait pratique d'ajouter quelque part dans l'interface (en bas à droite) des flèches haut et bas, qui s'affichent en permanence et permettent de remonter tout en haut de l'article ou de descendre tout en bas.
 * Le sommaire de l'article devrait s'afficher (en version repliable, comme le menu latéral gauche) de manière fixe, dans l'une des marges blanches (gauche ou droite), lorsque l'on scrolle l'article.
 * Le menu utilisateur déroulant (en haut à droite) avec la liste de suivi, le brouillon, etc. est OK pour des lecteurs. Mais pour des contributeurs, un accès facile aux liens est nécessaire : ils devraient alors figurer sous la forme d'icônes directement dans l'entête.
 * Quand on est en haut de l'article, les liens « Discussion », « Modifier », « Historique », etc., apparaissent toujours de manière traditionnelle, comme ils apparaissaient avant. C'est perturbant car ils n'adoptent pas la nouvelle charte graphique utilisée pour tout le reste. Ils devraient être harmonisés avec le reste (texte + icône ; couleur noire plutôt que bleue ; suppression du fond bleuté dégradé verticalement vers le blanc ; etc.).
 * La police de caractère est très agréable, mais la taille du texte est trop petite. Je suis obligé de zoomer à 120 % pour un confort de lecture agréable.

Nom d’utilisateur : Aridow

 * 1) Prenez une minute pour observer la page, la faire défiler, observer plusieurs pages différentes. Quelles sont vos premières impressions ? Est-ce que quelque chose vous dérange ? vous semble pratique ? particulièrement intéressant ? (Gardez en tête que ceci est un prototype, donc il se peut que certains liens ne fonctionnent pas ou que vous rencontriez d'autres bugs ou bizarreries).
 * L'infobox et certaines images sont centrés à gauche avec rien à droite : bug ? Dans la version anglaise, je n'ai pas ce problème, mais l'infobox est trop grande (quasiment la moitié de l'espace utilisé) et tout est mal centré dedans (y compris l'image et les titres). Trop d'espace vide, trop compact, on étouffe et on s'y perd. Pourquoi les menus présents normalement à gauche sont cachés (j'ai mis plusieurs minutes à les trouver), et pourquoi faut-il scroller "à l'intérieur" alors qu'il y a largement la place de l'afficher en entier ? Il y a tellement d'espace libre que dans la version anglaise, la longue image de la section "4.1 Lunar distance" ne s'affiche pas en entier (on ne voit pas la lune). Texte trop clair. On ne peut pas ouvrir les liens dans un nouvel onglet, on est obligé de cliquer dessus. Les pages mettent du temps à changer de l'une à l'autre lorsqu'on utilise les flèches du navigateur pour reculer/avancer d'une page, et parfois lorsqu'on clique sur les liens. Certaines langues devraient être accessibles sans qu'on ait besoin de cliquer sur "langues", comme c'est le cas normalement (mais si c'est pour les cacher dans le menu de gauche, ça revient au même). Où est le sommaire ?
 * 1) Faites défiler la page lentement. Puis remontez un peu. Que remarquez-vous ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * Le menu qui s'affiche quand on monte ou lorsqu'on passe la souris dessus est gênant, il attire trop l'attention en nous empêche de cliquer sur un lien en haut de notre écran : typiquement, si je clique sur une référence entre crochets, j'ai besoin de cliquer sur le ^ pour remonter, mais je suis obligé de scroller pour ne pas que la barre de menu s'affiche. Quand on clique sur la loupe, le bouton "search" est en plein milieu de la barre de recherche. Rien ne se passe quand on appuie sur tous les autres boutons. Les menus accessibles via "..." devraient être directement sur la barre. Si je laisse ma souris sur la barre, et que je descends, les boutons disparaissent mais la barre en elle-même reste. Pourquoi ne pas utiliser les nombreux espaces inutiles pour y placer les menus de manière permanente ?
 * 1) Est-ce que les fonctionnalités présentées ici vous sont utiles ? Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles il est particulièrement utile de pouvoir accéder pendant qu'on lit ou qu'on modifie une page ?
 * Le fait de pouvoir y accéder où que l'on soit sur la plage est utile, la manière dont c'est implémenté ne l'est pas. Et non, rien qui me vient à l'esprit.
 * 1) Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles vous souhaiteriez pouvoir accéder, mais qui ne sont pas disponibles dans le nouvel entête ?
 * L'ensemble des liens disponible en temps normal à gauche (contribuer, outils...).
 * 1) À présent, remontez tout en haut de la page. Imaginez que vous souhaitez accéder à votre page de discussion. Arrivez-vous à trouver comment faire ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * Je suppose que je suis censé cliquer sur le nom d'utilisateur "L May Alcott" mais rien ne se passe. Je ne comprends pas ce que je dois répondre.
 * 1) Faites part ici de tout commentaire, idée ou question complémentaire.
 * J'aimerais que les utilisateurs non connectés aient un moyen de repasser à la version Vector, utilisée encore l'année dernière. Ou que mes préférences soient automatiquement changées sur tous les projets, et toutes les langues à la fois.

Ім'я користувача:Всевидяче Око

 * 1) Приділіть хвилину щоб озирнутись, прокрутити вгору-вниз сторінки, прогляньте кілька різних сторінок. Які Ваші початкові враження? Щось є важкозрозумілим? Зручним? Особливо цікавим? (Майте на увазі, що оскільки це прототип, частина посилань може не працювати й що можуть бути інші баги чи приклади дивної поведінки, на які Ви наштовхнетесь.)
 * 1- не вдалось подивитись жодної іншої сторінки (усі лінки повертають 404). Незвичним є праве поле - звузило площу самої статті
 * 1) Повільно прокрутіть сторінку донизу. Тепер прокрутіть трішки вгору. Що Ви помічаєте? Яке Ваше враження щодо цього досвіду?
 * Попап меню - на стаціонарних пристроях непогано досить.
 * 1) Чи є представлені функції корисними для Вас? Чи є якісь функції, які особливо корисно мати під рукою під час читання чи редагування?
 * Зараз важко сказати - потрібно спробувати працювати
 * 1) Чи є якісь функції, до яких Ви б хотіли мати доступ, які не представлені в новому заголовку?
 * потрібно спробувати працювати
 * 1) Тепер прокрутіть назад нагору сторінки. Уявіть, що Ви б хотіли перейти на свою сторінку обговорення. Чи зрозуміло для Вас як це зробити? Що Ви думаєте про цей досвід?
 * 50 на 50. Думалось що це перехід на Обговорення сторінки яку зараз редагується - а не на власну сторінку обговорення
 * 1) Будь ласка, додайте будь-які фінальні думки, ідеї чи запитання.
 * При "виїзді" лівого меню - неприємно смикається вміст самої статті, зміщуючись ще вправо

Username:The-ultimate-square

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * See the "final thoughts" section.
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * Headers, they look nice.
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * Which features?
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * I don't see all the features as I can see only a couple of pages.
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * No, I can't open it. The username is not clickable, notifications and alarm clock too, if I press the three dots right to the user name there is no talk page in the menu. If I needed to go to my talk page I would have to type url, unfortunately.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * Awful. I would not express myself but you asked. Actually it looks great and promising, but, you know, the problem is that it is very hard to charge. The updated theme is fine if it is working fine by all circumstances. As we can see only a couple of pages we can't tell about all the problems. And, even I see just two pages, I can already see problems
 * I scrolled down the page, scrolled up a bit and pressed the search icon. Inside the search box I see some white space, "search" text (probably a button I have to press), and some white space again (inside the search box). What is it? A bug?
 * Username, notifications and an alarm bell is not clickable.
 * So I expect many places where problems might come up, different screen resolutions and graphs, some charts that are not responsive, long discussions, things not lookig well in Russian writing (cyrillic), etc, but I can see weird things under the most simple conditions. The-ultimate-square (talk) 12:03, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Username:Khairul hazim

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * This looks more like the mobile version, but better.
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * The only thing it lacks is the sections part.
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * The positioning of the search engine tab feels odd to me.
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * Nothing. Keep it as it is.
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * Nothing.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * Nothing. Khairul hazim (talk) 12:23, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Имя участника:Putnik

 * 1) Уделите минуту тому, чтобы осмотреться, пролистайте страницу вверх и вниз, посмотрите несколько различных страниц. Какие у вас первые впечатления? Вас что-нибудь смущает? Вам удобно? Вы находите что-нибудь сбивающим с толку? Удобным? Особенно интересным? (Имейте в виду, что это прототип, в котором некоторые ссылки могут не работать, и в котором вам могут встретиться другие ошибки или странности.)
 * Само верхнее меню при просмотре первой страницы выглядит достаточно удобно. Вариант при просмотре не нравится: функциональные иконки никак не подписаны, а блок языков наоборот подписан и занимает много места. Так же не нравится, что при прокрутке одно меню неочевидным образом заменяется на другое. Также в основном меню скрываются часто используемые иконки вроде списка наблюдения. Хочется иметь возможно закрепить их, чтобы они не скрывались.
 * 1) Медленно прокрутите страницу вниз. Теперь прокрутите немного назад. Что вы заметили? Что вы думаете об этом опыте?
 * Шапка появляется и исчезает даже при прокрутке на пиксель вверх-вниз, что создаёт ненужный визуальный шум. Как минимум, должны быть пороговые значения, при которых состояние шапки не будет меняться. Но лучше, если шапка будет отображаться только при наведении на неё, либо наоборот всегда.
 * 1) Полезны ли вам показанные здесь функции? Существуют ли какие-либо функции, к которым особенно полезно иметь доступ во время чтения или редактирования?
 * Единственная полезная функция при прокрутке — отображение текущего раздела, но есть ощущение, что его отображение можно было бы сделать ценой меньшей потери пространства. Все остальные функции не нужны при просмотре страницы, а когда нужны — то уже требуется уйти со страницы, поэтому можно прокрутить к её началу.
 * 1) Есть ли какие-либо функции, к которым вы хотели бы получить доступ, которые недоступны в новой шапке сайта?
 * Возможно, нужны ссылки на редактирование текущего раздела.
 * 1) Теперь прокрутите назад до самого верха страницы. Представьте, что вы хотели бы перейти на свою страницу обсуждения. Можете ли вы понять, как это сделать? Что вы думаете об этом опыте?
 * Нет. Я ожидаю увидеть её в выпадающем меню при клике на имя участника, но её там нет.
 * 1) Завершая свой отзыв, добавьте, пожалуйста, любые мысли, идеи или вопросы.
 * Текущая реализация очень сырая и не приспособлена для работы с Википедией. Но сама идея, вероятно, имеет право на жизнь.

Nom d’utilisateur : Horza

 * 1) Prenez une minute pour observer la page, la faire défiler, observer plusieurs pages différentes. Quelles sont vos premières impressions ? Est-ce que quelque chose vous dérange ? vous semble pratique ? particulièrement intéressant ? (Gardez en tête que ceci est un prototype, donc il se peut que certains liens ne fonctionnent pas ou que vous rencontriez d'autres bugs ou bizarreries).
 * Pratique d'avoir le menu notamment la recherche qui s'affiche en continu. Marges trop grandes. Quand on clique sur une note, l'article va en bas de page automatiquement, ce qui n'est pas pratique. Il faudrait que la note s'affiche directement à coté du lien cliqué.
 * 1) Faites défiler la page lentement. Puis remontez un peu. Que remarquez-vous ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * Le menu et les différentes fonctionnalités s'affichent. C'est une très bonne idée.
 * 1) Est-ce que les fonctionnalités présentées ici vous sont utiles ? Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles il est particulièrement utile de pouvoir accéder pendant qu'on lit ou qu'on modifie une page ?
 * La recherche me semble très utile. L'édition aussi.
 * 1) Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles vous souhaiteriez pouvoir accéder, mais qui ne sont pas disponibles dans le nouvel entête ?
 * Mon brouillon et ma page de discussion ne sont pas présents.
 * 1) À présent, remontez tout en haut de la page. Imaginez que vous souhaitez accéder à votre page de discussion. Arrivez-vous à trouver comment faire ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * Je n'ai pas trouvé.
 * 1) Faites part ici de tout commentaire, idée ou question complémentaire.
 * Très bonne initiative mais il faudrait améliorer la présentation de l'article (sur toute la page) et accéder à mes brouillons.

Username: Modulato

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * The infobox is too wide.
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * A white header pops up: interesting but not essential.
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * Honestly, no.
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * N/A
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * I didn't find the talk page, and I don't have enough time to search further.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * N/A

Nom d’utilisateur :J. N. Squire

 * 1) Prenez une minute pour observer la page, la faire défiler, observer plusieurs pages différentes. Quelles sont vos premières impressions ? Est-ce que quelque chose vous dérange ? vous semble pratique ? particulièrement intéressant ? (Gardez en tête que ceci est un prototype, donc il se peut que certains liens ne fonctionnent pas ou que vous rencontriez d'autres bugs ou bizarreries).
 * Grosse impression de vide à cause du bug d'affichage qui met le texte principal de l'article sous l'infobox et de l'absence du sommaire. Inconsistance entre le design sobre et les onglets qui sont en dégradé. Besoin d'un peu plus de couleurs pour les icônes.
 * 1) Faites défiler la page lentement. Puis remontez un peu. Que remarquez-vous ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * La barre du haut disparait et réapparait selon si on monte ou descend la page, et les onglets sont intégrés dedans. Un sommaire beaucoup trop basique apparait. C'est une amélioration notable pour gagner de la place et de la lisibilité, mais on perd un peu en navigabilité. Par exemple, il faudrait que les onglets normaux affichent eux-aussi les icônes, et que le sommaire montre aussi quand on se trouve sur le résumé introductif de l'article, ainsi que les titres des sous-sections de l'article.
 * 1) Est-ce que les fonctionnalités présentées ici vous sont utiles ? Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles il est particulièrement utile de pouvoir accéder pendant qu'on lit ou qu'on modifie une page ?
 * Oui. L'accès aux onglets et aux langues.
 * 1) Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles vous souhaiteriez pouvoir accéder, mais qui ne sont pas disponibles dans le nouvel entête ?
 * Liens vers la page d'aide et l'accueil communautaire de Wikipédia. Une fonctionnalité de partage de l'article vers d'autres sites.
 * 1) À présent, remontez tout en haut de la page. Imaginez que vous souhaitez accéder à votre page de discussion. Arrivez-vous à trouver comment faire ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * Oui, mais certains éléments ne sont pas cliquables dans ce prototype.
 * 1) Faites part ici de tout commentaire, idée ou question complémentaire.
 * Pour faciliter la navigation, le sommaire devrait être toujours affiché dans une colonne à gauche ou à droite du corps de l'article. Un sommaire pourra aussi servir à lister plus tard les tableaux et les figures d'un article.

Username:Pennenetui3000

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * For a desktop experience, I think the main text has a quite narrow space to work with, especially when there is an infobox to the right or when there are pictures. I like to have more information on the screen, with less scrolling through the article. The narrow space also means that wide tables (for example on the page "Natural satellite" under "Natural satellites of the Solar System") get cut off by the empty space on the sides, while there is enough space to show the entire thing on the screen. Also, the contents section lacks in this prototype.
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * I think it's nice to not have to scroll to the very top for the buttons that are in this bar, but these do not (for me at least, with a screen of 1920 pixels wide) go on top of the article, but on the white space on the left and right. As these don't cover any information, they can as well be shown all the time, instead of only when you scroll up.
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * The features shown are mainly those regarding the article, plus a user button that can open up, so they are useful for most users I think.
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * User things like the Watchlist and Notices could be moved to header itself, these are features that I frequently use or things that could be important.
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * I don't see any link to the personal talk page when I click on the three dots or in the rest in the header, and also not in the links on the menu left (I mean the menu with Main page, Random page, Tools, other projects, etc.), so the easiest way would be to click on my name and then to the Discussion tab.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * I like the old/current layout better, it's easier to navigate and there are more things in reach with less clicks. The main update with this layout is the narrowing of the text: I think that's unnecessary to the extent it is in this form. While I can imagine the current layout is too wide on very wide screens, I do think this is too narrow.
 * P.S.: there seems too be a bug with the infoboxes that they don't have a maximum width (for example on the article "Europe") which results in comically wide ones, especially with the reduced page width.

Username: Петров Эдуард
Уделите минуту тому, чтобы осмотреться, пролистайте страницу вверх и вниз, посмотрите несколько различных страниц. Какие у вас первые впечатления? Вас что-нибудь смущает? Вам удобно? Вы находите что-нибудь сбивающим с толку? Удобным? Особенно интересным? (Имейте в виду, что это прототип, в котором некоторые ссылки могут не работать, и в котором вам могут встретиться другие ошибки или странности.)


 * Очень непривычно и неудобно работать.

Медленно прокрутите страницу вниз. Теперь прокрутите немного назад. Что вы заметили? Что вы думаете об этом опыте? Когда прокручиваешь вверх слева W, лупа и название статьи и справа черные иконки, особенно иконка обсуждения, доминируют над размером и тонкостью текста (текст не жирный ведь), отвлекают внимание на себя и мешают сосредоточиться на тексте статьи. Иконки должны быть более лёгкими и тонкими. Когда иконки/действия нужны, тогда человек посмотрит прямо на панель, панель не должна перетягивать внимание когда человек смотрит на текст статьи. Полезны ли вам показанные здесь функции? Существуют ли какие-либо функции, к которым особенно полезно иметь доступ во время чтения или редактирования?


 * Иконки сбивают с толку, текстоввые заголовки были намного удобнее и практичнее.

Есть ли какие-либо функции, к которым вы хотели бы получить доступ, которые недоступны в новой шапке сайта?


 * Нет функции править код, или я ее просто не смог найти в этом новом дизайне.

Теперь прокрутите назад до самого верха страницы. Представьте, что вы хотели бы перейти на свою страницу обсуждения. Можете ли вы понять, как это сделать? Что вы думаете об этом опыте?


 * Я вообще не любитель всплывающих иконок и выпадающих меню.

Завершая свой отзыв, добавьте, пожалуйста, любые мысли, идеи или вопросы.

--Петров Эдуард (talk) 14:42, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Очень неудобный дизайн. Надеюсь, что это предложение не пройдет, или хотя бы останется возможность переключаться и спокойно работать в старом привычном и удобном дизайне. Возможно новый дизайн удобнее на айфоне или планшете, но на стационарном мониторе выглядит отвратительно. Спасибо.

Username:Lucamauri

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * I like the narrower text because it's easier to read on bigger screens. Anyway the white space on the left looks wasted: it is a placeholder for the menu which is not shown by default, one thing that might puzzle users.
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * The top bar appearing and disappearing is not very easy-to-use. Since it's just few pixel high, I think it should always be there. Besides, links like  and   are not working at all
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * The fact that the title of the chapter is shown as the page is scrolled is very nice and useful.
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * Not that I can immediately see
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * Yes, I can identify the  link, but that tab and the other on the right are identical to the ones currently in use and not really integrated into the new UI. It looks like there are now two headers wasting a lot of vertical space.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * I think that the basic view should fill all the screen like current Wikipedia: there should be a button to change the view to this narrow one. White should be limited to the body of the article, the rest of the page should use tones of gray to frame it. I think "Page", "Discussion", "Read" and all the other tabs should really be integrated into new design, not simply copied from the current one. --Luca Mauri (talk) 14:49, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Nom d’utilisateur : Trace

 * 1) Prenez une minute pour observer la page, la faire défiler, observer plusieurs pages différentes. Quelles sont vos premières impressions ? Est-ce que quelque chose vous dérange ? vous semble pratique ? particulièrement intéressant ? (Gardez en tête que ceci est un prototype, donc il se peut que certains liens ne fonctionnent pas ou que vous rencontriez d'autres bugs ou bizarreries).
 * Il n'y a pas de sommaire ; cela me manque énormément.
 * 1) Faites défiler la page lentement. Puis remontez un peu. Que remarquez-vous ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * Le sous-titre s'affiche dans l'entête, à côté du titre. C'est pas mal. Mais dans ce cas, on pourrait également descendre d'un niveau, et mettre également les titres de section dans l'entête. Par ailleurs, un sommaire flottant, situé dans une colonne le long du texte, serait plus utile.
 * 1) Est-ce que les fonctionnalités présentées ici vous sont utiles ? Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles il est particulièrement utile de pouvoir accéder pendant qu'on lit ou qu'on modifie une page ?
 * Accéder aux portails dont l'article fait partie, à sa page de discussion, à son sommaire, aux pages liées, à l'élément wikidata en permanence serait utile ; ces liens pourraient figurer dans un élément flottant présent à l'écran en permanence.
 * 1) Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles vous souhaiteriez pouvoir accéder, mais qui ne sont pas disponibles dans le nouvel entête ?
 * Oui, la barre de gauche, avec les liens wikidata, les pages liées, etc. ; ce menu pourrait apparaître en passant le pointeur de la souris sur le logo wikipédia, par exemple.
 * 1) À présent, remontez tout en haut de la page. Imaginez que vous souhaitez accéder à votre page de discussion. Arrivez-vous à trouver comment faire ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * Je ne trouve pas comment faire. J'ai cliqué sans succès sur le nom d'utilisatrice, sur l'icône adjacente.
 * 1) Faites part ici de tout commentaire, idée ou question complémentaire.
 * L'interface témoigne d'un effort de simplification qui est à saluer. Mais il devrait être possible de faire apparaître tous les liens de l'interface classique.

Username: Oscar Zariski
What is this rubbish? I am being taken here from a banner on the Dutch Wikipedia, without any context whatsoever being provided, and the test/feedback instructions are cryptic. Please provide context or stop spamming serious editors. And if this is a preview of things to come, I am pessimistic about Wikipedia.--Oscar Zariski (talk) 14:53, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Username:Betseg

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * Feels much better.
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * I like the header names.
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * Headers and language switching are great.
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * Table of contents as a table meybe?
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * Nope, couldn't figure out how.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * It's really good.

Username: Svetlov Artem
Nothing changed from current design.
 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * 2) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?

There is no link or button to talk page. Just "Notifications", "Export to disk", "User settings"
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * 2) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * 3) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * 2) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?

This design keep too small images like in 2003 where everybody save traffic on modems. There is 4K-content around, but images still display in 150x150 pixels and totally useless.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.

Username:lanhiaze

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * It resembles mobile version of Wikipedia. What I find inconvenient is the absence of the categories below the text. Besides, the links I used to in the left margin of the page can only be accessed from the ≡ menu if you scroll to the top.
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * Well, not bad!
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * What I would like to have at hand is a means to copy a short link to a page that contains Page ID from Page Information, of the type en.wikipedia.org/?curid=19331 (links to Moon article on English Wikipedia).
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * I would like to be able to make the left-margin links appear permanently, together with classical-style language list.
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * I failed to find the talk page link. I saw sandbox, preferences, watchlist and other useful links, but not talk page.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * I hope the language list in the final version will be customizable because I find it a bit cumbersome to search for a language in the current version.

Användarnamn:Paracel63

 * 1) Ta en minut, skrolla upp och ned på sidan, kolla på några olika sidor. Vad är dina första intryck? Är någonting förvirrande? Smidigt? Särskilt intressant? (Kom ihåg att eftersom det här är en prototyp fungerar de flesta av länkarna inte, och det kan komma att finnas andra buggar eller konstigheter som du kan stöta på.)
 * Placeringen av sökrutan är bättre (man slipper trångt högerhörn, och nybörjare hittar rutan snabbare). IW-listning är konsekvent med Commons (bättre med gruppering, så länge man slipper oinloggad-versionen med hårt trunkerad lista som alltid gömmer det man vill ha). Förenklingen av "användarlisten" är föredömlig; frågan är om "Beta" ens behövs, eftersom den ju är en sektion i Inställningar. Den utfällbara vänsterspalten har dock en visuell bugg som gör att den döljer slutet på längre rader.
 * 1) Skrolla långsamt ned längst sidan. Skrolla nu upp en bit. Vad lägger du märke till? Vad känner du inför den här upplevelsen?
 * Den löpande sektionsrubriceringen verkar smidig. Men vart har innehållsförteckningen tagit vägen (varken stationär- eller mobilvarianterna verkar synas)?
 * 1) Finns det verktyg här som är användbara för dig? Finns det några verktyg som är särskilt användbara att ha tillgång till under läsning och redigering?
 * Jag gissar att det som idag kan visas under "Mer" fortfarande kommer att kunna synas där. På svwp har vi länk till sidvisningsverktyget där.
 * 1) Finns det några verktyg som du skulle vilja ha tillgång till som inte finns tillgängliga i den nya headern?
 * "Header"? Har någon hört talas om ordet "sidhuvud"? ;-) Språklänkarna i den här versionen är bökigare/förvirrande, avsaknaden av innehållsförteckning obegriplig. Hamburgermenyn försvinner under skrollning, vilket är mycket opraktiskt (vänstermarginalen är nödvändig för en aktiv wikipedian).
 * 1) Skrolla nu tillbaka längst upp på sidan. Föreställ dig att du skulle vilja gå till din användardiskussionssida. Kan du lista ut hur du gör det? Vad tycker du om detta?
 * Gissningsvis genom att klicka på den länk som skulle ligga bakom "L. May Walcott" (enligt exemplet). Gissade jag rätt? I så fall är det i samma stil som tidigare och förutsägbart. Nej, det hittade jag inte. Hur gör jag?
 * 1) Lägg gärna till några sista tankar, idéer eller frågor, om du har sådana.
 * Jag använder här Google Chrome på macOS. IW-listningen är endast ett sökfönster med halvdold kategorilista. Här saknas visning av utvald status på olika språkversioner. En IW-listas längd är också viktig för att bedöma mängden IW-länkar (den översikten finns inte här). IW-listningen är dessutom förvirrande, eftersom språk som förekommer på flera kontinenter återkommer för varje kontinent (bristande översikt); möjlighet till att skräddarsy visningsmodellen för IW-länkar vore därför guld.

Username:Avecus

 * 1) No me gusta que el menú de la izquierda quede oculto. Pero aunque eso no fuera tan malo, al desplegarlo salen incompletas algunas palabras y no hay barra de desplazamiento siquiera para moverse a la derecha. Está bien clasificar los idiomas por continente, pero era mejor la lista vertical. También sobre los idiomas, creo que sería bueno poner la traducción del nombre del idioma en el lenguaje de la wiki en que estamos. Por ejemplo si estoy en Wikipedia en español, quiero que no solo diga "English", sino debajo "Inglés".
 * 2) Está bien eso de la W que sale. Y luego el nombre del artículo. No tengo nada en contra, aunque no me parece muy relevante.
 * 3) Que salga la barra de búsqueda sí es útil, aunque noté que junto al botón "search" hay una barra inútil a la derecha. Detalle de diseño.
 * 4) Sería mejor que al hacer click en la W saliera el menú completo de la izquierda. En el encabezado ya no aparece el menú de contribuciones directamente (traducciones etc.) solamente el botón "Contribuciones". Era mejor con las opciones. Tal vez pueda hacerse un sub-menú.
 * 5) En ese punto no veo diferencia.
 * 6) Me gustaba más sin tanto margen en los lados. Eso se podría aprovechar con otros botones u opciones de información que aparezca ahí, por ejemplo podrían hacerse anotaciones por parte del usuario, aunque sea para su uso personal. O podrían salir ahí las "quick hints", es decir primer párrafo de los artículos de enlaces interwiki. De todos modos, me gusta más sin márgenes. En este nuevo modo me siento como cuando entro por error a la versión para móvil desde mi laptop.

Όνομα χρήστη:FocalPoint

 * 1) Αφιερώστε ένα λεπτό για να κοιτάξετε γύρω, κυλίστε προς τα πάνω και προς τα κάτω στη σελίδα, κοιτάξτε μερικές διαφορετικές σελίδες. Ποιες είναι μερικές από τις αρχικές σας εντυπώσεις; Βρίσκετε κάτι συγκεχυμένο; Βολικό; Ιδιαίτερα ενδιαφέρον; (Λάβετε υπόψη ότι επειδή αυτό είναι ένα πρωτότυπο ορισμένοι από τους συνδέσμους ενδέχεται να μην λειτουργούν, και ενδέχεται να υπάρχουν άλλα σφάλματα ή ιδιοτροπίες που θα συναντήσετε.)
 * This version of interface is focused on content, which is good. Yet the wikipedia in other languages issue remains. We have so extensive info in wikidata. Why, in the other language wikimedias selection menu, do I have to write only "Deutch" and it does not recognize "German", "Allemand", "Tedesco", "Γερμανικά"?
 * 1) Κάντε κύλιση προς τα κάτω στη σελίδα αργά. Τώρα κυλίστε λίγο προς τα πάνω. Τι παρατηρείτε; Τι πιστεύετε για αυτήν την εμπειρία;
 * This is acceptable. I like the appearing menu if you go up, but I would not mind a constant menu-line on the top either.
 * 1) Είναι χρήσιμες για εσάς οι λειτουργίες που εμφανίζονται εδώ; Υπάρχουν χαρακτηριστικά που είναι ιδιαίτερα χρήσιμα για πρόσβαση σε όλη την ανάγνωση ή την επεξεργασία;
 * yes
 * 1) Υπάρχουν λειτουργίες στις οποίες θέλετε να έχετε πρόσβαση και δεν είναι διαθέσιμες στη νέα κεφαλίδα;
 * User contributions are missing. It is good that they are there. The option for translation is missing. This is crucial.
 * 1) Τώρα, κάντε κύλιση πίσω στην κορυφή της σελίδας. Φανταστείτε ότι θα θέλατε να μεταβείτε στη σελίδα συζήτησής σας. Μπορείτε να καταλάβετε πώς να το κάνετε αυτό; Τι πιστεύετε για αυτήν την εμπειρία;
 * It seems to be I have to go to the very top of the page. Maybe acceptable, but I prefer to have the option all the time.
 * 1) Παρακαλούμε προσθέστε οποιεσδήποτε τελικές σκέψεις, ιδέες ή ερωτήσεις.
 * The Wikipedia in other languages issue remains. We have so extensive info in wikidata. Why, in the selection menu, do I have to write only "Deutch" and it does not recognize "German", "Allemand", "Tedesco", "Γερμανικά"? What if I want to write the word "Chinese"?
 * User:FocalPoint, In the usual Wikipedia, this is actually possible. Try it! It's probably a limitation in the prototype that it's not possible to do it. (Clarification: I'm not a developer of the new skin, but I was involved in developing the language selector in the usual Wikipedia. I've just noticed this comment, and wanted to respond.)
 * User:SGrabarczuk (WMF), please pass on to the developers that if they use the usual ULS component in the prototype, it should be easy to connect the search box to the language search service that will make searching for any language in any language possible. --Amir E. Aharoni &#123;{🌎🌍🌏}} 16:14, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * @Amire80, thanks for pinging me and for this tip! The team is interested in the opinions on the two functionalities we're testing, namely, the sticky header and user menu. We are aware that this prototype is buggy in other aspects. Such information are just irrelevant to the data the team intends to collect, examine and take as a basis of any decisions. SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 17:07, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Amir E. Aharoni, OK, you are good! I suppose you mean that it works on the tablet/phone version. I tried it from my phone and I agree it works. I do not find how to make it work on the desktop version - maybe it is my fault I can hover and see it in local and home language well done - but I cannot search. Now, having congratulated you (indeed congrats), here is a suggestion for a small improvement: There are languages with accents (like Greek for example). Your excellent tool is not working like the general wikipedia "Search box", which is working no matter the accents. Your tool works using a library of the "correct" terms, with the accents and all. You can improve it (a little bit) by allowing the same terms without accents. (Γαλλικά - ΟΚ, Γαλλικα - not OK) (Πολωνικά - ΟΚ, Πολωνέζικα - not OK). If it easy do it. If not, do not. --FocalPoint (talk) 18:14, 2 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Actually no, User:FocalPoint, I wasn't talking about the phone version. Only on the desktop version you can search for any language in any language. The mobile version is more limited in this regard. If you are curious, you can read a very detailed comparison of the different versions on the page Interlanguage links/Implementation comparison. I'm not sure why doesn't it work for you in the desktop version. Do you see the "X more" button?
 * I will test your report about the accents—thanks a lot for that! Amir E. Aharoni &#123;{🌎🌍🌏}} 18:37, 2 April 2021 (UTC)


 * User:Amire80, now I know what happened. At some point (years ago), I turned off the short language list, because I could not persuade it to keep the languages I wanted and since then I have the long, full list of languages. So... of course I do not see the "X more" button.. (I do not even know where is this short list / long list switch - .... just found it) . You see... I am a demanding customer - I think I gave feedback about it (not being able to define languages to show) at the time. I will turn it back, just to see how it works now. Nice talking to you. Have a nice Saturday. --FocalPoint (talk) 18:57, 2 April 2021 (UTC)


 * User:Amire80, my note about accents is not valid on desktop mode. This thing works extremely well, it is quite resilient. Big congratulations. I think that it is valid on the phone mode, but still, you have to be insistent to make a mistake, ignore the proposal and go and put the final letter without an accent. No, just ignore it. No worth spending time to "fix" it. It is ok. --FocalPoint (talk) 19:19, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Username:Amire80
I won't understand "231 Languages" if I don't know English

When scrolled down: Noticed the "W", which is not great because it's Latin-alphabet centric. A globe or a puzzle piece would be nicer, perhaps in addition to W.

Noticed the person icon. It would probably be more useful for me to have search and languages.

If I click the Person icon, I see mostly personal-related things, which is OK, but I'd fix some stuff:
 * If I scroll down, then all the way up using Command-↑ (Ctrl-Home on non-Mac keyboards), I see "Moon | External links" at the sticky bar. That's probably a bug in the prototype, but I suspect there's a chance you'll drag it to the actual software. At the top of the article it should just say "Moon".
 * Merge "Alerts" and "Notices" already. I never understood why did the Echo designers split them. The differences between them is totally unclear to me. Perhaps you should also make them more prominent, because they are perhaps the most frequently used personal tools, or at least they should be.
 * I'm not sure where will the Sandbox lead. It can be a lot of different user sub-pages.
 * Where's the link to my user talk page?! I couldn't find anything that looks like it.
 * Consider putting preferences towards the end, as it is in many other apps. Some experienced Wikimedians may think that it should stay in the same place, but since the design is changing so strongly anyway, it's an opportunity to move things around even more.
 * Consider removing the separate "Beta" link. It's almost the same as preferences.
 * Translations and Uploaded media came from Content Translation. The idea behind is that translations and media uploads are kinds of contribution, and that more types of contribution will join later. Also, that pop-up is shown only to people who enabled the Content Translation beta feature. This idea never developed much further, and now it may be a bit out of place. Media uploads is basically a part of the user's own contribution list, and Translation is more of an entry point, and it's quite different. I recommend consulting with the designers of Content Translation about redesigning this entry point.
 * The "Gadget" link is totally weird and I don't know what does it do.
 * I see a clock, and I don't quite know why. Maybe it's because on some wikis there's a gadget that shows the UTC clock and purges a page, but I'm not sure it's totally right to show it to everyone. It requires some more design thought.

If I move the mouse back up:
 * I see a search box. It's good. Wikimedia designers have been speaking about a persistent search box since at least 2014, of maybe even earlier, and it's about time to finally do it. I'd actually be happy to see it always persistent, and not just appearing upon scrolling or moving the mouse. Perhaps you can give that as an option, and I'll be fine with having that as the default option.
 * I'm really not sure about the  is bad. Sorry. It may be clear to very experienced Wikimedians, and perhaps they are the target audience for it, but I'd dedicate more thought and research to it.
 * I guess that the pencil icon opens the Visual Editor. It should probably be the first one, before source editing (on the left for LTR wikis, and on the right for RTL wikis). Or maybe it should even be separate and not between other toolbar buttons. More importantly, for people who don't know that Wikipedia can be edited, I'm not sure it makes everything clear.
 * History and talk are easy to guess, but I am an experienced Wikimedian, and I'm not sure it's good for inexperienced people. I also imagine myself as an experienced Wikipedian trying to explain this to an inexperienced one over the phone: "Click that icon with the bubbles." Will a person who has never seen this icon understand what "bubbles" are? Same for the history icon: how do I describe it in words? "Clock"? "Circular arrow going backwards"? I strongly recommend not removing the labels.

More comments:
 * It's probably just a mistake, but the textual tab at the top of the page is "View source". If it's "View source", then how can the page be edited? And this also makes me think which icon will be used on pages that the user has no permission to edit.
 * "Edit" links at each section look the same as always. This is also extra-weird because the top tab says "View source". When a user cannot edit a page, the section edit links don't appear at all.
 * I started from it, and I'll repeat it again: It's great that the Languages button is at the top, and it may make finding it relatively easier for people, but it would be even better if it showed actual language names, to make people who don't know English find it even more easily.
 * The number in the label "231 Languages" is certainly interesting to some Wikipedians, even to myself, but nevertheless its practical utility for the wide audience of readers is not so clear. Advertising that we have a lot of languages is cool, but can we do something more useful with that button, for example put something there that will get more people write a translation of that article to their language. We should show ALL languages there, not just those in which there is an article (see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235157 .)

Thanks! --Amir E. Aharoni &#123;{🌎🌍🌏}} 16:08, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Username:TehFrog

 * 1) The design is pretty clean and i like it. However, the infobox is wider than it should be for some reason.
 * 2) It's a great idea; i noted the page header to show up. It's a great change since before you had to go to the top of the page to access the main page, the talk page, the user's page, etc.
 * 3) Yes, all are fundamental and helpful.
 * 4) No.
 * 5) Yes, because those tools are hidden in the button to the right of the user's page link. Just like in the old times (but more concise).
 * 6) This remind me of the mobile web version. Is clean and easy to use. But the biggest problem is the fact that i can't see the index: it's the most important feature on long pages!

Username:LPfi

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * I like getting back screen real estate by not having the wide left margin. Finding the items that usually are there took a while, but I suppose new users will find them quick enough. What really bothers me is the iw (I have chosen the traditional language list): I have to do a search for the language, i.e. move from mouse to keyboard and back, as the "compact" list is unusable – no change in that. The search box was also annoying, as I could not right click on the items to open in a new window; I hope I can keep the monobook boxes and normal right click behaviour. The top margin had a lot of unused space between Discussion and Read, but still Move was in More (and Edit/View source was missing). I suppose that will be fixed.
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * I get the title, search box and a language tool. Usually this behaviour is annoying (stealing real screen estate), but here I think it is unintrusive.
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * It might be useful in long articles (I haven't made up my mind), but I don't like to have to search for pages that I know, so unless I get my Go box (which can handle "Wikibooks:sv:Category:C") it is of little use for me. The language tool does not work for me in this prototype and I don't use it normally so I suppose I won't use it.
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * A right clickable Go, and perhaps the Wikidata item, Commons category and talk page (as right clickable). A quick bookmark could be nice, but I suppose that would be overengineering.
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * There is the Discussion tab as before. No problem (except that it takes me to the wrong page in the prototype).
 * Ah! My talk page. Not at once, but I'd try the three dots and find it. One oddity: I don't get real links, which would show in the status bar. I hope that is only a prototype glitch.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * I want to keep the Go box and the traditional language list. The user page, alerts etc. should be more discrete for me (I know they are there, so they don't have to scream). The search box could also be smaller. Otherwise I think it looks clean and nice.


 * I didn't notice the ToC missing. It is a must. –LPfi (talk) 16:38, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Username:Remagoxer

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * This seems pretty simple, certainly not confusing. The use of a new font (on Windows, Segoe UI) is a nice touch.
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * The floating header only appearing upon scroll-up is... a bit pointless to me. If the logo and user button appear all the time, why not have the full, opaque header there at all times?
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * The features here would be useful to me as the most frequently used ones. I can't think of any that are missing.
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * Not that I can currently think of.
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * While it seems pretty easy to find my talk page, I do think it'd be convenient to have that as one of the few options not under the three dot menu. The talk page is a very commonly used one.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * Overall this is a step in the right direction. I have a few minor issues with the current design (where is the table of contents?) but this is a nice start. The sooner we can get rid of those gradient buttons... Remagoxer (talk) 16:46, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Username:FF-11
I will sign my post even if it's not requested: FF-11 (talk) 16:42, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * There's a big link to the user page in the top left corner. When editing Wikipedia, I normally don't need to go to that page. To go to the actually useful pages (the user talk and the watchlist, I have to click twice. In order to open the left side menu, I have to scroll all the way up. I think, it would be mouch nicer as some kind of drop down or so that can be opened from everywhere on the page and automatically closes after a new page was opened (Otherwise no one would klick the hamburger icon more than once because it's too inconvenient to close the menu and open it up again when it's used the next time. Howerver, I actually like how clean it looks. Why is the time when the page was loaded shown in that user drop down menu?
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * The buttons are in a wrong order. When you want to go to the talk page, you in the past went to the top left. In that new menu, you have to go to the right. Once I touch that menu with the mouse, it disappears. It's weird to see the menu bar go when moving the mouse accros it when I open or close the page. However, the menu SHOULD disappear if it was opened by hovering the area with the mouse
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * I think, I could also just scroll to the top of the page, that's most of the times not inconvenient but the features offered are nice.
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * I would like one-click access to the notifications and buttons to revert (please not just undo) or patrol (and please on German Wikipedia, to flag the revision as "sighted"/"reviewed" using JavaScript) a change if a diff is shown or just to patrol/review/sight if a pending revision (newer than the last patrolled/reviewed/sighted revision but NOT a diff) is shown.
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * Click “•••”? No. It's not there. So I have to click first “L May Alcott” and then “talk”? That doesn't mean just clicking twice but also downloading two pages form the server so you have to wait a second between the two clicks and your internet provider is happy to bill you the double amount of money for opening the talk page. However, that improvemnt is not for mobile phones.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * I'm not sure if showing the section title in the top bar is really that useful and it even doesn't work well on two-column pages like the main page. I would like a feature that shows a table of contens drop down when clicking there. Otherwise I suggest the complete removal of that feature.

Username: stjn
With great sadness, stjn[ru] 16:59, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * 2) * I find the fact that there are 4 toggles (3 dropdown menus and a hamburger menu) incredibly frustrating. It goes counter to what we are trying to teach people on wikis themselves, which is that hiding content should be the last resort. There is neither the lack of screen space (on desktop widths) nor the lack of bolder ways to rearrange the navigation in a presentable manner to justify this. Sure, the toggleability of the hamburger menu will be remembered, but the fact that so much stuff is hidden behind a button after a button after a button is not modern or sleek, but rather speaks to poor design choices (and lack of conviction and courage present in all prototypes of new Vector).
 * 3) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * 4) * I hope that the animations on these elements will be disabled for people preferring reduced motion. Otherwise, it will be an accessibility violation. Other than that, I’m sure some will find this helpful, but that someone is not me. In fact, I would probably find a way to hide the scroll-to-top header because those are usually annoying. But at least the design choice of having 3 toggle buttons is justified here, unlike everywhere else.
 * 5) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * 6) * No. Access to such things as talk page and watchlist without additional clicks from the top header would be immensely more helpful to me and, I suppose, others, rather than this eye-candy exercise.
 * 7) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * 8) * It seems like I won’t use the new Vector until 2030 at least, so I don’t care. In fact, I despise scroll-to-top headers (but have no problem with sticky headers themselves) because they draw too much attention to themselves. I don’t like how it hides itself after you use it, that seems to be an excessive animation that happens for no reason. If you displayed it one time, display it for the whole time until another scroll happens.
 * 9) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * 10) * I can figure out, but I don’t like the experience one bit. No one can accuse this design of not having necessary vertical space to display the links in their entirety, so you should do that instead.
 * 11) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * 12) * I actually don’t think any of my feedback will be heard here (you can only hear so much in the noise of thousands of people that sure might like something in this design), so that’s why I took a more direct (some might say abrasive) approach to it. Still, I urge the design team to, at least, present their actual vision of new Vector’s design instead of doing this Frankenvector where nothing matches, and everything seems like it was designed by robots that are driven by pure algorithmic thought (what if we do this, what if we do that, without any cohesive design direction) instead of actual humans. Then I’d stop wondering why the hell some wikis have willingly subscribed themselves to this weird thing.

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Во первых. Если находиться в режиме WYSIWYG редактора (я не сильно подкован в терминологии википедии и если у вас редакторы называются как-то специально, то я этих названий не знаю) при работе с опросом - ничего не происходит и если перейти из него на редактор исходников, то открывается пустая страница. Тольк после перезахода на страницу опроса с заранее выбранным редактором в режиме исходников - нажатие на кнопку оказывает правильное действие - собственно открывает текст для редактирования. Если вы хотите собрать мнение обычных людей, то это НЕ метод опроса. Если движок Wiki не позволяет сделать дружественный интерфейс для опроса - используйте сторонние инструменты. Риторический вопрос - кому вообще могла придти в голову идея организации опроса подобным образом.

Страница выглядит намного уже, чем экран - читать неудобно. В первую очередь страница должна быть удобна для чтения - за этим люди (как мне кажется) приходят на Википедию. В начале страницы от верхнего края есть полстраницы пустого места - всякие ссылки на обсуждение и сторию и т.п. Наверное вверху должна быть строка поиска и дальше СРАЗУ должен начинаться текст. Инструменты дискуссий, истории и пр. должны быть где-то во всплывающих меню, поскольку для меня, как для обычного пользователя это просто мусор. Абсолютно бесполезная верхняя полоса. Считаю, что такая полоса нужна только в режиме редактирования. То есть если я где-то поставил настройку, что я потенциально хочу редактировать сейчас страницы, тогда сверху можно иметь кнопки для перехода в редактор. В стандартном случае достаточно кнопки в левом нижнем углу - перейти на начало. А в шапке иметь базовые инструменты навигации по Википедии (поиск) и кнопки для вызова всплывающих меню. Нет, абсолютно бесполезно. Из того чего действительно не хватает - всплывающее оглавление от левого края страницы. Для длинных документов без оглавления сложно. Хочется, чтобы я подвел мышку к левой части экрана и появилось оглавление страницы, откуда я могу перейти любой подраздел, при уведении мыши с оглавления - оно должно скрываться, освобождая место для чтения. Оглавление может появляться над текстом страницы, поскольку при работе с оглавлением текст, обычно не важен. Так же возможно страница должна перерисовываться под размер экрана каждый раз, но возможно это вызовет неприятное мелькание при частой работе с оглавлением. Я не знаю что такое talk page и она 100 лет мне не нужна. Опять же, возможно это нужно активным редакторам, но вот пусть они быстрый доступ к talkpage и прочим редакторским плюшкам включают в настройках, а обычных читателей оставьте в покое. Это не социальная сеть. Есть такая типовая ошибка у инженеров когда сами инженеры выбирают характеристики системы, исходя из того, что им кажется нужно эксплуатанту. К сожалению, зачастую супер-навороченные функции оказываются ненужны, а нужные - не реализованы. Вот ровно сейчас такую ошибку и пытаются совершить. При этом еще и отсекая крайне нетиповым методом опроса целевую аудиторию. Тенденция удручающая...
 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.

Username:Tremendo

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * Text is centered, font looks different. I liked the menus on the side, e.g. to switch languages.
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * The bar disappears and comes back, looks useful.
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * 2) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * 3) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * I like the icons, the Watchlist is the one I would like to have access to without going through the 3 dots. I twould be nice to show the preferred icons.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * I like the icons, the Watchlist is the one I would like to have access to without going through the 3 dots. I twould be nice to show the preferred icons.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.

Nome utente:ValterVB

 * 1) Prenditi un minuto per dare un'occhiata, andare su e giù per la pagina, guardare un po' di pagine. Quali sono le tue impressioni iniziali? C'è qualcosa che trovi confuso? Conveniente? Particolarmente interessante? (Ricorda che dato che questo è un prototipo la maggioranza dei link potrebbero non funzionare e può capitare di incontrare altri bug o difetti).
 * Il primo template non va bene occupa troppo spazio, il testo deve scorrere attorno altrimenti si allunga troppo la pagina. Inoltre c'é troppo spazio bianco ai lati (uso una risoluzione full HD)
 * 1) Scorri lentamente verso il basso la pagina. Poi torna un po' in su. Cosa hai notato? Come valuti questa tua esperienza?
 * Barra superiore sempre presente, questo è comodo se rimane di quelle dimensioni
 * 1) Le funzionalità che hai visto qui ti sono utili? Ci sono altre funzionalità a cui sarebbe particolarmente utile accedere mentre stai leggendo o editando?
 * Qua tutto bene
 * 1) Ci sono funzionalità che ti piacerebbe avere accessibili ma non sono presenti nella nuova header?
 * Al momento va bene
 * 1) Ora scorri fino all'inizio della pagina. Immagina di voler passare alla tua pagina di discussione utente. Come pensi che si possa fare? Che ne pensi di questa esperienza?
 * Immagino che basti cliccare sull'icona con il nome utente, ma non funziona
 * 1) Se hai idee, commenti o domande finali, aggiungile.
 * C'é quasi il 50% della larghezza della pagina che non viene sfruttata (ai lati) Perché?

Username:Xia

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * I like the new design, however, I think the text width is too small. On a larger monitor the sides look too empty, and it's very annoying to read a small block of text in a large empty space. it's even worse if you have infoboxes that reduce the text width even further, if you click on Earth in the test page, you will see what I mean, the infobox takes up almost 2/3rd of the entire text width.
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * the toolbar is nice but it should be fixed, it took me several tries to actually capture it with the mouse, it kept just disappearing too fast.
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * the language feature is useful.
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * link to the wikidata entity/add interwikis link and Commons. Especially that the sidebars are hidden by default.
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * it's okay, might not be straightforward enough for newbies though.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * the intro section of articles should be editable by default, especially with such long articles as this one.

Alaspada

 * 1) Prenez une minute pour observer la page, la faire défiler, observer plusieurs pages différentes. Quelles sont vos premières impressions ? Est-ce que quelque chose vous dérange ? vous semble pratique ? particulièrement intéressant ? (Gardez en tête que ceci est un prototype, donc il se peut que certains liens ne fonctionnent pas ou que vous rencontriez d'autres bugs ou bizarreries).
 * Je ne trouve pas beaucoup de différence avec l'ancien habillage Vector que j'utilise. Je trouve la présentation plutôt faite pour les téléphones portables que pour les ordinateurs de bureau. Police inadaptée. Manque les portails. Présentation générale à revoir pour les ordis.
 * 1) Faites défiler la page lentement. Puis remontez un peu. Que remarquez-vous ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * Je trouve particulièrement notable l'absence de certaines barres d'outils. Pas de défilement rapide pour remonter en haut de page ou descendre en bas de page.
 * 1) Est-ce que les fonctionnalités présentées ici vous sont utiles ? Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles il est particulièrement utile de pouvoir accéder pendant qu'on lit ou qu'on modifie une page ?
 * Oui évidemment utile. Quand on utilise pas l'ÉditeurVisuel, comment faire une modif sans ces outils ?
 * 1) Y a-t-il des fonctionnalités auxquelles vous souhaiteriez pouvoir accéder, mais qui ne sont pas disponibles dans le nouvel entête ?
 * J'utilise beaucoup la barre d'outils wikEd. Les catégories aussi, autrement rien.
 * 1) À présent, remontez tout en haut de la page. Imaginez que vous souhaitez accéder à votre page de discussion. Arrivez-vous à trouver comment faire ? Que pensez-vous de cette expérience ?
 * Je ne vois pas de différence avec la majorité des sites internet ! ? ! ?
 * 1) Faites part ici de tout commentaire, idée ou question complémentaire.
 * Je ne comprends pas ce que cette nouvelle présentation apporte sinon qu'une sorte de rapprochement, une tentative de compromis, avec les téléphones portables.
 * Cordialement -Alaspada (talk) 17:30, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

שם המשתמש:Yuval CT

 * 1) קחו דקה והסתכלו סביב, גללו מעלה ומטה בדף, הסתכלו בכמה דפים שונים. מה הרושם הראשוני שלכם? האם אתם מוצאים משהו מבלבל? נוח? מעניין במיוחד? (זכרו שמפני שזה אב-טיפוס, רוב הקישורים לא ממש עובדים, וייתכנו באגים נוספים שתיתקלו בהם.)
 * הפונט קטן. אני מניח שאפשר להגדילו, אבל הפריסה של הטקסט מאוד צרה, כך שככל הנראה התצוגה תהיה משובשת. התפריט לא מופיע מיידית, והוא גם מתנגש עם הלוגו של ויקיפדיה.


 * 1) גללו למטה בדף לאט. עכשיו גללו למעלה בדף לאט. במה אתם מבחינים? מה אתם חושבים על החוויה הזאת?
 * בגלילה למטה, כל הכותרות נעלמות. בגלילה איטית מעלה, מופיעות הכותרות בצורת פירורי לחם. זו חוויה נעימה, אבל הייתי מעדיף שהכותרות האלה יופעלו כבר בעת הגלילה למטה.


 * 1) האם הפיצ'רים המוצגים כאן מועילים עבורכם? האם הפיצ'רים יעילים בזמן קריאה או עריכה?
 * החלוקה לשפות לפי קבוצות הרבה יותר נוחה מרשימת השפות בגרסה הקודמת.


 * 1) האם יש פיצ'רים שתרצו לגשת אליהם שאינם זמינים בכותרת הדביקה החדשה?


 * 1) כעת, גללו חזרה לראש הדף. תארו לעצמכם שתרצו לעבור לדף השיחה. האם אתם יכולים לעשות זאת? מה אתם חושבים על החוויה הזאת?
 * אני מניח שאני לוחץ על הקישור ל'שיחה'...


 * 1) אם יש לכם מחשבות אחרונות, רעיונות, או שאלות, הוסיפו אותם.
 * תעדכנו גם את הקישורים בסלולרי, צריך להוסיף קישור לשיחה ולהסטוריה.

LDiCesare
There's a band at the top which appears. I don't really like it since I think I'll never use it. I'd rather it remained there all the time or not. It disappears and pops back in if I put my mouse to the top the move it away. I really don't like that. The thing which is most unsettling is that when you're at the top of the page, you don't have the same UI at all. I might get used to clicking on the Edit button at the top, except it's not there if I'm at the top of the page. Plus I usually edit a particular section, so these edit buttons are mostly useless. No. None. No. I never go to the talk page so I don't care. However, the icons have no title, explanation or mouseover, so they are rather confusing.
 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * 2) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.

Username:Srđan

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * It's pretty standard for a wiki. Nothing really confusing or particularly interesting.
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * I like sticky headers, and I wish that the whole header would be displayed at all times, not just when you mouse over the top.
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * Everything seems fine. From the buttons available in this prototype, the View history button seems like the most useful to have at all times, as the edit links are next to section headers one would want to edit anyway.
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * I'd like to be able to click the section name in the header and then jump to a different section.
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * I can, and it seems fine. I don't really visit my talk page unless I have a new message, which I get a notification for anyway, so it being in the "..." menu doesn't really bother me.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * Which I click the search box, the search field expands to the left slightly. I don't know if that's a bug or not, but it's quite distracting. Also, I'm not a huge fan of the font stack that's being used on the page ("San Francisco" on my system).

Username:Valepert
--Valepert (talk) 18:50, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * too much white space, clicking on the hamburger icon cause the text to move (it's a little nauseating).
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * I think the icon appears/disappears to fast, without any indication of the meaning (I need to mouse over to understand them)
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * move action
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * change page fast, maybe editing the title, without jump into the search menu
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * the button is very hidden (and use the same/similar icon of article talk).
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * categories are missing, some page with large tables are not full visible (for example "2020 Formula One World Championship" key tables on the right)

Feedback by Riha

 * 1) Na chvíli se rozhlížejte, posunujte stránku nahoru a dolů, zkuste více různých stránek. Jaké jsou vaše prvotní dojmy? Je zde něco matoucího? Nebo praktického? Obzvlášt zajímavého? (Mějte na paměti, že jde o prototyp, kde většina odkazů ve skutečnosti nefunguje, a můžete narazit i na další chyby nebo jiné výstřednosti.)
 * I used Firefox 87.0. The left (W) and right (person) icons disappeared when I used smaller window, but there was space enough before and after them. Could the icons be seen on smaller windows too?
 * Hamburger is OK. Could it be part of user setting (on/off)? Three dots on the right side is OK for me.
 * 1) Pomalu posunujte stránku dolů. Nyní zase trochu nahoru. Co pozorujete? Co si o tom myslíte?
 * Good idea!
 * 1) Jsou předváděné funkce pro vás užitečné? Jsou zde nějaké funkce, ke kterým je obzvlášť užitečné mít během čtení a editace přístup?
 * Chapter name is good, but how can I move to the next chapter?
 * 1) Jsou zde nějaké funkce, ke kterým byste chtěli mít přístup a nové nadpisy je nenabízejí?
 * Search access is too slow (one more click) - could keyboard shortcut be seen when mouse goes over the symbol? What is the Talk symbol next to the History symbol? Is it for article discussion?
 * 1) Nyní posuňte stránku úplně nahoru. Představte si, že chcete navštívit svoji diskusní stránku. Přijdete na to, jak to provést? Jak to na vás působí?
 * Yep, Talk symbol under three dots. OK.
 * 1) Přidejte prosím jakékoliv vaše úvahy, nápady nebo otázky.
 * ...--Riha (talk) 19:36, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Käyttäjänimi:T.Antero

 * 1) Katso hetkinen ympärillesi, vierittele sivua ylös ja alas ja tarkastele muutamaa eri sivua. Mitkä ovat ensivaikutelmasi? Huomaatko mitään hämmentävää? Kätevää? Erityisen mielenkiintoista? (Muista, että koska tämä on prototyyppi, osa linkeistä ei oikeasti toimi, ja saatat törmätä muihinkin bugeihin ja oikkuihin.)
 * ...Uusi ulkoasu hieman yllätti minut
 * 1) Vieritä sivua ensin hitaasti alaspäin. Vieritä sitten sivua hieman takaisin ylöspäin. Mitä tapahtuu? Mitä mieltä olet tästä ominaisuudesta?
 * ...Hämmentävää mutta kätevää se että kun mennään takaisin ylöspäin alaotsikot tulevat näkyville
 * 1) Ovatko ominaisuudet sinulle hyödyllisiä? Onko jokin ominaisuuksista erityisen hyödyllinen lukemiseen tai muokkaamiseen?
 * ...Uudet ominaisuudet eivät kovin höydyllisiä ole minulle mutta viitteiden lisääminen on aina ollut erityisen höydyllinen minulle muokkaamisessa
 * 1) Onko jokin ​​ominaisuus, jota haluaisit käyttää, mutta ei sisälly uudistettuun ylälaitaan?
 * ...Ei nyt tule mieleen
 * 1) Vieritä sivu nyt niin ylös kuin mahdollista. Kuvittele olevasi menossa keskustelusivullesi. Saatko selville, miten se tehdään? Mitä mieltä olet tästä kokemuksesta?
 * ...Keskustelusivuista ei ole kovin paljon muistikuvia mutta keskustelusivusta on jäänyt kuitenkin hyviä muistoja
 * 1) Kerrothan lopuksi vielä muita viimeisiä ajatuksiasi, ideoitasi tai kysymyksiäsi prototyypistä.
 * ...Wikipediaa ei ehkä tarvitsisi kokonaan uudistaa mutta ymmärtää tuon jotenkin vaikka olen viime aikoina miettinyt sitä onko perinteisille fonteille kuten Arial ja Times New Roman vielä käyttöä internet-sivustoissa ja -yhteisöissä

Username:Lordakryl
-- Lordakryl (talk) 20:39, 2 April 2021 (UTC).
 * 1) I am using a MacBook 15" display, and left and right side of the page are really empty now. It means that I have to scroll more to read the same article. :(
 * 2) Right side:
 * use the right side (column) of the page as before, do not leave it empty. It also will break some wide templates and will give a horisontal scroll.
 * 1) Left side:
 * hiding the left side menu is not really giving me anything. It is not a Photoshop where people should concentrate on what they draw. Left menu was giving me the idea that I am on the Wikipedia and was providing an access to quick links. Now to get something from the left menu, I have to scroll to the top and enable it (and the new menu looks smaller and uglier than before). I cannot enable the left menu being in the middle of the page, I have to scroll to the top, find the menu ("3 lines") button and click on it. :(
 * If you would like to play with the left menu, I would prefer to have it always ("sticky") on the left side.
 * 1) Usually when I am reading Russian version, I do often switch to the English or German versions because they have more information. It was usually on the left side, and to switch the interwiki language in the "good old" design, I was just scrolling to the top and clicking on the 1st or second item in the interwiki list
 * Now to switch to another interwiki, I have to search for the interwiki list, and I have found 2 options for it: on the top-tabs when they are visible ("Read", "View source", "View history" and "More" buttons/tabs), OR on the the top sticky menu, when I am not on the top of the page :(
 * Top menu and top-tabs are super inconsistent. I would prefer to have an access to a interwiki list always on the same place. With the new design I have to check it in 2 places, depending on where I am on the page (top or middle). I think the top sticky menu should not switch to another view so radically when I am scrolling up to the top. All buttons on the top sticky menu and all top tabs/buttons should be the same (same order, same position, same size). :(
 * I have to do more clicks to move to the English/German/Russian Interwikis, which I am doing pretty much every time I am using Wikipedia. I need an access to the recent interwikis with 1 click, as it was before.
 * Number of languages in the top sticky menu. (I see "233 Languages" near the Interwiki-Button). Why do I need it every time I see the page? I would prefer to use this place for the links to my favorite language versions (or just save the place). :(
 * 1) Finding the Talk page is easy, and hiding it in the top sticky menu is a good idea, I do not need to see it every time, only maybe when I have a new message (and it is usually displayed as a number in the Talk Button which is still op the top). :)
 * 2) The link that I need every time is "My Watchlist". It is called watchlist because I am watching it, and I think it should be visible somewhere by default, not hidden behind the small button in the middle of the menu-list. :(

Username:NGC 54

 * 1) Take a minute to look around, scroll up and down the page, look at a few different pages. What are some of your initial impressions? Do you find anything confusing? Convenient? Particularly interesting? (Keep in mind that since this is a prototype some of the links might not work, and there might be other bugs or quirks that you’ll come across.)
 * The width of content is to small. The logo should not be changed; this smaller version of the logo does not look well. Also, the logo is an important thing; it should be remarkable, because it is the symbol that identifies the site. If you make the logo be smaller, the symbol losses its power. The new sidebar is annoying. All looks empty. But I like that the search box shows images and short descriptions.
 * 1) Scroll down the page slowly. Now scroll back up a bit. What do you notice? What do you think of this experience?
 * There are too many brusque changes to menu.
 * 1) Are the features shown here useful to you? Are there any features that are particularly useful to have access to throughout reading or editing?
 * I am not sure what to say about the position of the Wikidata links (the versions in other languages) and the position of the search box.
 * 1) Are there any features you would like access to that are not available in the new header?
 * The fact that the personal tools are collapsible is a waste of time.
 * 1) Now, scroll back to the very top of the page. Imagine you would like to go to your talk page. Can you figure out how to do that? What do you think of this experience?
 * I would not like to waste my times trying to acces my talk page clicking on an additional button.
 * 1) Please add any final thoughts, ideas, or questions.
 * I think that the current Vector could be improved, but overall, I think that this is not a good option.