Project talk:Administrators/Archive 1

Stewards
There seems to be some confusion as to whether stewards can use their admin rights here. Personally, I have no issue with it. And I can't imagine what possible objections could be raised to such a thing. But I'm asking here for another view before I codify such a thing. Thoughts? --MZMcBride 18:41, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't see why not... if a local sysop isn't around when something happens, why should someone with the ability to do something wait for someone local to take care of it? Reminds me of janitors at Wikia who have global sysop rights but can't use them for many things without permission from the individual wikis, kinda defeats the purpose of having global rights. Besides, if we can't trust the stewards to do the right thing, then something is very wrong. -- Skiz zerz  18:48, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * well yes definitely, but it mainly depends on the type of vandalism, if its the same ip creating and adding nonsense and not stopping when "warned" then yes, but if its some individual normal/random vandalism, then the stewards must have faith in the local sysops to clean it up...-- Cometstyles 19:53, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It's everyone's benefit that vandalism/junk/random crap is cleaned up as soon as it's been created. I have no issues with stewards performing these tasks. Bureaucracy -- especially excess bureaucracy -- is harmful for everyone and I'd really like if we would not add another level of unneeded bureaucracy to this wiki. -- Sayuri 21:16, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * What's there to codify? The steward handbook and policies don't require stewards to consult local policies before reverting vandalism. —Emufarmers(T 22:26, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Stewards generally can't act without explicit permission to. At least one steward was under the impression that they were not allowed to act on mediawiki.org, thus the post here. :-) --MZMcBride 18:44, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Really? In that case, the steward policies themselves probably need clarification, because all the guidelines on usage appear to be for managing user rights (perhaps because this "omni-janitor" ability is relatively new?), and we've had a couple stewards delete spam recently. —Emufarmers(T 06:01, 18 August 2008 (UTC)