Wikimedia Quality and Test Engineering Team/Meetings/2020

= 2020-12-16 = - Topics -
 * Attendance: Monte, Anthony, Dom, Rummana, Željko, Harriet


 * Onboarding/offboarding QTE
 * Beta Cluster

- Round Robin -


 * Anthony

Looking at some accessibility issues with voice over on iOS (combo of VO and bluetooth keyboard) https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T269641
 * Notable features being worked on

Same as above, the issues were reported by users
 * Notable bugs/tasks over the last couple of weeks

Pretty normal to low, no help needed
 * Current and projected workload - any help needed

I want to go to New Orleans after watching the haunted tour during the tech dept fun day
 * Other interesting things


 * Dom
 * Notable features being worked on
 * SecurePoll


 * Notable bugs/tasks over the last couple of weeks


 * Current and projected workload - any help needed
 * Low
 * I have next two weeks off (21st-new year)


 * Other interesting things


 * Edward


 * Notable features being worked on


 * Notable bugs/tasks over the last couple of weeks


 * Current and projected workload - any help needed


 * Other interesting things


 * Elena


 * Notable features being worked on


 * Notable bugs/tasks over the last couple of weeks


 * Current and projected workload - any help needed


 * Other interesting things


 * Greg


 * EngProd updates


 * Other interesting things


 * JR


 * Project updates


 * Other interesting things


 * John


 * Notable features being worked on


 * Notable bugs/tasks over the last couple of weeks


 * Current and projected workload - any help needed


 * Other interesting things


 * Monte

Threw together phab-based dashboard: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/dashboard/view/500/ Working on quick triage script
 * Project updates


 * Other interesting things


 * Pita


 * Notable features being worked on


 * Notable bugs/tasks over the last couple of weeks


 * Current and projected workload - any help needed


 * Other interesting things


 * Rummana

Visual Enhancements
 * Notable features/tasks being worked on

Will share more with everyone about defining testing criterias next time.
 * Other interesting things


 * Current and projected workload - any help needed


 * Zeljko
 * Setting up macos 11 on a laptop
 * docker pull from docker-registry fails with `ERROR: missing or empty Content-Length header` https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T270270
 * Mentor Outreachy Round 21 intern https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263240
 * selenium-daily-beta-MediaWiki and selenium-daily-betacommons-MediaWiki fail with ENOTFOUND https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T269755
 * Learn Docker basics https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T210412
 * Sucessfully nerd-sniped Ahmon (from releng) a few times
 * trying to docker(copose) my blog https://github.com/zeljkofilipin/filipin.eu

_____________________________________ = 2020-12-02 = - Topics -
 * Attendance: Anthony, Rummana, Edward, Pita, Dom, Željko, JR


 * Onboarding/offboarding QTE
 * Beta Cluster

- Round Robin -


 * Anthony

Not much this week, wrapping up AALD and fundraising annoucement Nothing new Workload is light Apps QA Retro today in about an hour https://www.blacklantern.com/
 * Notable features being worked on
 * Notable bugs/tasks over the last couple of weeks
 * Current and projected workload - any help needed
 * Other interesting things


 * Dom
 * Notable features being worked on
 * IPInfo
 * SecurePoll (soon)
 * Wikisource


 * Notable bugs/tasks over the last couple of weeks
 * Watchlist Expiry enabled on all wikis
 * Grammatical numbers are fun: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T268492


 * Current and projected workload - any help needed
 * Light - AHT low on engineers, CommTech busy with Wishlist


 * Other interesting things
 * 2021 Community Wishlist, voting starts soon (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2021 )


 * Edward

Some bug fixes that will be on the 12/3 train. Reimaging mac for docker and mediawiki
 * Notable features being worked on

Minerva automation is failing, need to get environment working to address it
 * Notable bugs/tasks over the last couple of weeks

No help needed
 * Current and projected workload - any help needed

Turns out moving home folder to an external SSD works for everyone on the planet but me.
 * Other interesting things


 * Elena

Structured Data Media Search - added "Categories and pages", concept chips and some improvements are done for search functionality ( fulltext matches & statement matches).
 * Notable features being worked on

Growth team: Two bugs that showed that I never typed Russian in ruwiki :) https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T268519[regression] Aliases for Growth features aren't working on Russian Wikipedia and https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T268888The user's gender is not taken into account when creating a tab to the user's page Structured Data team: Filed two bugs on MediaSearch:   https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T268192 and https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T268372 All is under control Interesting that both teams now are in planning/researching mode (mostly) for new projects - Add link (Growth) and Image recommendation (inter-teams big project).
 * Notable bugs/tasks over the last couple of weeks
 * Current and projected workload - any help needed
 * Other interesting things


 * Greg


 * EngProd updates


 * Happenings in sister teams


 * Tech updates


 * Other interesting things


 * JR


 * Project updates


 * Data^3
 * Starting to define some use cases with ReleEng, PET
 * Metric Dictionary available at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10lvSkI703qz4sYxjDS5xtZwigxH9wUXKiDMpZEEHJR8/edit?usp=sharing


 * Code Health


 * Code Stewardship
 * Spoke with Timo on this topic, specifically as it impacts maintenance work.
 * Maintenance backlog is taking progressively longer to address as a result the backlog is growing - what are the reasons?


 * Other interesting things


 * John


 * Notable features being worked on


 * Notable bugs/tasks over the last couple of weeks


 * Current and projected workload - any help needed


 * Other interesting things


 * Monte


 * Project updates
 * Bird's-eye workboard
 * ELK Stack


 * Other interesting things


 * Pita


 * Notable features being worked on


 * Notable bugs/tasks over the last couple of weeks


 * Current and projected workload - any help needed


 * Other interesting things


 * Rummana


 * Notable features being worked on


 * Current and projected workload - any help needed


 * Zeljko


 * Selenium updates
 * Consulting work
 * Infrastructure/Tooling


 * Other interesting things
 * Learn Docker basics https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T210412
 * webdriverio tests for kaios app https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T269009
 * Onboard Harriet Ayugi https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T268748
 * Off-board from Release Engineering https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T267313
 * Wow. So wikimedia. Such quality. Many testing. Very team. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/phame/blog/view/21/


 * Rummana


 * Notable features being worked on

https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261423

Test Results: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ccTSx-v1yb8kvli7e8djFexXL7jThPHE1WomtkCLG6I/edit#gid=975163835


 * Notable bugs/tasks over the last couple of weeks


 * Current and projected workload - any help needed


 * Other interesting thing

_____________________________________ = 2020-11-18 =
 * Attendance: Rummana, Pita, JR, Dom, Greg, Elena, Anthony, Ed (late)

- Topics -


 * Offsite
 * General feedback
 * Pairing sessions


 * Post Mortems
 * Should we have post mortems on production bugs?
 * from discussion about Dom's bug
 * [Most seem to think so] Yes
 * Should QTE be responsible for facilitating them?
 * [JR] Yes

- Round Robin -


 * Anthony

Article as a living document, fundraising banners
 * Notable features being worked on

Candidate builds for both Android and iOS
 * Notable bugs/tasks over the last couple of weeks

Looking good so far
 * Current and projected workload - any help needed

People say weird things when bugs/features get closed as declined
 * Other interesting things


 * Dom


 * Notable features being worked on
 * Release of Watchlist Expiry to wikidata and commons


 * Notable bugs/tasks over the last couple of weeks
 * Had additional discussion about: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T267611


 * Current and projected workload - any help needed


 * Other interesting things


 * Edward

Set up ELK in docker on my linux box because my macmini kept running out of space Documenting Desktop Improvement feature tests for regression and future automation
 * Notable features being worked on

Rummana found a bug in iOS14, it keeps showing up in my queue. Huge KUDOS to Rummana
 * Notable bugs/tasks over the last couple of weeks

I'm good, I have coffee.
 * Current and projected workload - any help needed

I built my linux box to do some Machine Learning. I didn't get far with the ML, but the thing is liquid cooled and glows green.
 * Other interesting things


 * Elena

SDaW - concept chips - test cases (shared with JR- let me know if anyone else is interested): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1afOb6kWpvTzbwvcPBfjNSvXRkPCJRo1eCyeYu6d-RR8/edit#gid=0
 * Notable features being worked on

As an example of "mismatch" between normal search result quality and the concept chips (there were more) https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T266836 Concept chips - punctuation marks affect result set
 * Notable bugs/tasks over the last couple of weeks

Looks ok for now
 * Current and projected workload - any help needed

Growth team has made a great progress on the first structured/guided task for newcomers - it'd be in the testable condition very soon.
 * Other interesting things


 * Greg


 * EngProd updates


 * Happenings in sister teams
 * Vue.js


 * Tech updates
 * Sigma Octantis: https://office.wikimedia.org/wiki/Technology/Technology_Mission,_Values_%26_Vision
 * Please give feedback by Dec 16th ^


 * Other interesting things


 * JR


 * Project updates


 * Data^3
 * Monte's work
 * PET's interest


 * Code Health
 * Code Health Objectives
 * 17% of 20% target met


 * Code Stewardship
 * Code Stewardship update meeting on Monday


 * Other interesting things
 * Discussions w/ Tyler re Betacluster and Product Ownership
 * TE Contractor


 * John


 * Notable features being worked on


 * Notable bugs/tasks over the last couple of weeks


 * Current and projected workload - any help needed


 * Other interesting things


 * Monte


 * Project updates
 * Bird's-eye workboard
 * ELK Stack


 * Other interesting things


 * Pita

-section translation is going to be user tested in our staging server with some volunteers -new kaios build submitted to Jio -no bugs in my apps, ever !
 * Notable features being worked on
 * Notable bugs/tasks over the last couple of weeks

-once section translation gets finished I might need a hand, not now though and don't know when it will be
 * Current and projected workload - any help needed

-I'm alive? -question: whats our CTO idea for the all hands? I was asked my address but I don't know where I'll be in January
 * Other interesting things


 * Rummana

- Selser issues on talk pages: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262408
 * Notable features being worked on

- Beta cluster seems to be extremely slow for logged in user during page navigation: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T267435
 * Current and projected workload - any help needed


 * Zeljko


 * Selenium updates
 * Consulting work
 * Infrastructure/Tooling


 * Other interesting things
 * T263240 Mentor Outreachy Round 21 intern - intern approved: Harriet!
 * T262682 Evaluate Microsoft Playwright as replacement for our browser automation
 * T210412 Learn Docker basics
 * T264762 Write recommendation letter for GSoC students

_____________________________________ =2020-10-26= EngProd Virtual Offsite

OFFSITE PAIRING SESSIONS

 * alles zusammen https://meet.google.com/swv-ukps-nuk

Round 1


 * Dom - Pita https://meet.google.com/imc-vevs-kpn
 * Monte - Željko https://meet.google.com/byv-xyob-zsv
 * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P13071
 * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P13072
 * add to /etc/hosts: 127.0.0.1 phabricator.local.com
 * Ed - Anthony https://meet.google.com/zxa-kugp-tei


 * Summary
 * Anthony-Ed Session
 * Various tools used by Edward to capture gifs
 * Anthony and Edward covered some of their past tasks (as they are currently in a lull).
 * Anthony has smoke test suite defined in Google Sheet.
 * Mosly executed by TSG


 * Pita-Dom Session
 * Language Team:
 * Work Board: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/5011/ (updated every quarter)
 * Find tasks in "Needs QA"
 * Might need to recheck on production, but only if good reason
 * ContentTranslation
 * Test environment: http://cx2-testing.wmflabs.org/index.php/Special:ContentTranslation
 * Section Translation
 * Test environment: https://sx.wmflabs.org/index.php?title=Special:ContentTranslation&from=en&to=es&sx=true&page=Vlasovite&targettitle=Vlasovite#draft
 * Inuka
 * Work board: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/4301/
 * Use Github for code
 * Need to test some things locally by checking out the particular branch.
 * KaiOS app
 * Installation instructions https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SvNrAVPpWn0epDTRkoe1Zn15P4mcnn4wz33n4lJMWoo/edit#heading=h.73hkjxpu5dj
 * Wikipedia Preview
 * Test environment https://wikimedia.github.io/wikipedia-preview/demo/index.html
 * Pita found a bug during this session that was Safari-only and not reproducible in emulators.


 * Monte-Zeljko Session
 * Discussed the "Birds-eye view" Phabricator Workboard work that Monte's been working on
 * Worked on getting a Phabricator docker container spun up for Zeljko
 * TODO: write blog post about Phabricator in local Docker container

Round 2


 * Rummana- John - Elena https://meet.google.com/bfw-incd-pku
 * Dom - Monte - Ed -> https://meet.google.com/imc-vevs-kpn
 * Anthony - Zeljko - Pita https://meet.google.com/oqv-qfuw-xqc

_____________________________________ = 2020-10-21 =
 * Attendance: Pita, Elena, Dominic, Rummana, Anthony, Monte, Greg, Željko
 * The offsite brainstorming doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_PxdoMi06cQbhNAf46RI9_ay_5R_tfYB4q7GIyBX364/edit#heading=h.za9sx8gk8807


 * Proposals:


 * Željko: Docker - from zero to hero. (Learn as much Docker as possible in 3 hours.)
 * ŽF, Edward, Monte


 * Željko: Writing a blog post together
 * ET, AB


 * Pita: Native mobile app testing automation
 * eg: install Wikipedia app and see what we can do, what's the tooling, who can share their experience
 * Pita: for the appium, I already have content for a workshop I've already done
 * AB, pita, RY


 * Pita: Switch between teams (eg: "Elena test something from Dom's team", etc) - #SpeedDating
 * Goal: de-siloification of expertise
 * See what reference documents there are for testing for the teams
 * anyone using patchdemo.wmflabs.org
 * Elena, Dom, RY, Monte, Edward, AB, pita
 * outline:
 * 2 hours
 * 5 minute lightning talk on their typical day/project
 * then pair up for 20? minutes
 * come back, report back on learnings/what you can apply in your day to day
 * switch up the pairs
 * 5-10 minutes break every hour
 * Decision: Dominick will be the Dictator of how this is done on Monday.


 * Elena: Creating a checklist for accessibility
 * eg: see if it's keyboard accessible
 * look at Lighthouse rating
 * https://www.ministryoftesting.com/dojo/lessons/30-days-of-accessibility-testing
 * ET, RY

= 2020-10-07 =
 * Attendance: Dom, Pita, JR, Elena, Edward, Monte, Željko, John, Anthony


 * John:
 * Fundraising QA tasks are piling up, busy time of year!
 * Finishing up blog post for QTE blog this week (inspired by talk with JR last week)


 * Željko
 * Create the first test for api/rest_v1/page/mobile-html/Dog https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T264340
 * Writing club https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263660
 * I've posted: Visual Studio Code + Neovim https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/phame/post/view/211/visual_studio_code_neovim/
 * John is working on his first blog post for QTE blog: Bug Reporting Best Practices blog post https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258075
 * Outreachy internship just started https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263240

_____________________________________ = 2020-09-23 =
 * Attendance: JR, Dom, Ed, Greg, Anthony, Elena, Pita, Željko
 * Data3 work
 * An effort to pull together engineering data for easier analysis
 * Monte and Edward have been working together to get a sandbox ELK stack setup for us to explore the possibilities more.
 * Monte's been working on an Elk stack + phab docker image.
 * Folks from across the organization are interested in this, actively being supported by RelEng (Tyler and Mukunda) and CPT (Will and Naïké)
 * Metrics dictionary was created a little over a year ago to help establish some potential use cases
 * https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10lvSkI703qz4sYxjDS5xtZwigxH9wUXKiDMpZEEHJR8/edit#gid=0
 * Elena has many thoughts/questions on this, to start was curious about "Bug Triage Responsiveness" - not all teams have a "triage" process. Also has questions about "Bugs per train", specifically the product errors issue we are seeing rise.
 * Greg mentioned that this is something that we are trying to address more directly. Tyler's been leading a discussion around this across Tech and Product.  We need to move away from expecting a handful of folks like Timo and James from doing all the work around production errors.


 * Side discussion about the urban legends surrounding Ostriches. Need I say more?!


 * Željko
 * QTE Phabricator badge https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/badges/view/19/
 * Mentor Outreachy Round 21 intern https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263240
 * Anybody wants to experiment with us creating a small writing club (maximum 5 people)? More information at https://shime.sh/word-rafting https://shime.sh/raft
 * Elena and Željko will define the rules and start the club


 * Shout out regarding bug/defect reporting templates.
 * Rummana is in the process of collecting information about the various bug reporting templates that are used accross the Foundation. If you've not done so already, please update the spreadsheet with information from the teams you work with.
 * The objective of this work is to work towards aligning on a more common set of expectations for all bug reports. This will aid in future reporting and analysis.


 * Q1 ITC starting up
 * Q2 Planning/OKRs are coming up.
 * Start thinking about the Q2 activities coming up for the teams your working with and if there are any new O/KRs.

_____________________________________ = 2020-09-09 =
 * Attendance: Dom, Pita, Elena, Željko, Anthony, John


 * Dom
 * Does anyone have tips for Mobile testing on Browserstack/Saucelabs (e.g. how to simulate gestures?); or, is it better to have access to a physical device? What differences between emulated and physical should we be aware of?
 * Anthony: emulators did not have the same bugs as real devices, e.g. couldn't simulate getting a phone call or other interrupt with emulator
 * John: certain bugs ONLY appear in emulators


 * Anthony
 * Quick heads up on the App teams interest in doing some automated testing on Native apps. We are still in the preliminary stages and exploring some options on what and where to automate.


 * Željko
 * cathing up after vacations(s)
 * GSoC internship is over
 * new titles!? https://wikimediafoundation.org/role/staff-contractors/ (search for Quality and Test Engineering)
 * https://office.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Level_Framework
 * https://office.wikimedia.org/wiki/Title_Framework


 * John
 * replies to fundraising e-mail ends up in spam
 * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139740 - I would like to work on this task with Zeljko and Elena if possible?
 * we'll pair on writing the first banners test

= 2020-08-26 =
 * Attendance: Dom, Greg, Željko, Vidhi, Monte, Soham, JR, John

Vacations/Important dates

 * Pita is on holiday for one week (in two weeks time???)
 * Edward is on holiday Aug 26th - Sept 11 - Monte covering Readers Web
 * Željko on vacation (again?!😬) September 1-3 (Tuesday-Thursday)

Agenda: * Code Health Objectives overview * EngProd Virtual Offsite ** What other VOs do people have coming?
 * Update on Vidhi and Soham interships
 * 80% of repos are on the latest version of Webdriver IO
 * The reliability perception regarding Selenium and Cypress was not substantiated

* Dom ** I (Dom) saw this SonarCloud failure as part of my team's work, and wasn't sure exactly why it had failed: https://sonarcloud.io/dashboard?branch=621593-5&id=mediawiki-extensions-MobileFrontend *** Need to look at what is under "FAILED CONDITIONS", which was "0.00% Coverage on New Code is less than 80.0%"
 * https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend/+/621593/

Chat Transcript: Monte Hurd 9:03 AM gonna restart - getting some weird audio Željko Filipin 9:03 AM I get weird audio every time kids listen to music /me is too old for new music Greg Grossmeier 9:05 AM Meh Soham Parekh 9:05 AM I was just typing that lol You 9:05 AM https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/quality-and-test-engineering-sync Greg Grossmeier 9:07 AM https://sonarcloud.io/component_measures?branch=621593-5&id=mediawiki-extensions-MobileFrontend&metric=new_coverage&view=list if you click on that, you see what/where ^ John Bolorinos 9:09 AM oh very cool, I'd never seen the sonar dashboard! Dominic Walden 9:20 AM brb Dominic Walden 9:23 AM sorry, very important wine delivery Dominic Walden 9:27 AM

John Bolorinos 9:27 AM wow time flies! Dominic Walden 9:27 AM have we not offered them jobs yet? Greg Grossmeier 9:29 AM sarcasm John Bolorinos 9:32 AM y'all have done a really great job Soham and Vidhi! Soham Parekh 9:33 AM Hahaha thanks to all the good mentorship we had :P John Bolorinos 9:33 AM And it's great to see you starting communities to help others get started contributing to open source projects that's such a good way to help people learn! Dominic Walden 9:34 AM It's been great to get to know you two, good luck in the future! Soham Parekh 9:34 AM I did have a short discussion with Pita before he left for vacay You 9:35 AM ^ thanks Soham Parekh 9:36 AM We tried reaching out to folks at Cypress without any luck though... Soham Parekh 9:42 AM https://sohamp.dev/blog/2020-08-24-wmf-gsoc2020/ This is my final report if anyone's curious Željko Filipin 9:47 AM I have nothing in that time but a marathon 😬 virtual escape room! John Bolorinos 9:47 AM ok cool I'll send you the virtual escape room links Greg! Vidhi Mody 9:47 AM Try Spyfall Dominic Walden 9:47 AM +1 John Bolorinos 9:48 AM Hogwarts Virtual Escape room - https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSflNxNM0jzbZJjUqOcXkwhGTfii4CM_CA3kCxImbY8c3AABEA/viewform?fbclid=IwAR10iBRN3qfwd779mRqPvQcq2eaJErTczzMxuICYRBl5zRIepN-Kj4UTAYk Minecraft digital escape room - https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfKkueafhM5Glhz2MesjhWtnrGrvP24BqaX8ijUM1IGln_xMQ/viewform Vidhi Mody 9:48 AM I've played the Hogwarts one! It's awesome Soham Parekh 9:49 AM Isn't Spyfall a James Bond movie? John Bolorinos 9:49 AM skyfall Soham Parekh 9:49 AM Oops lol John Bolorinos 9:50 AM it's an understandable mistake...James Bond is a spy too after all australian wine is pretty good! Greg Grossmeier 9:51 AM dang, party at doms Željko Filipin 9:51 AM coronavirus lockdown preprations Soham Parekh 9:51 AM There were rumors that alcohol was good against Covid Dominic Walden 9:51 AM Yeah mean true facts, right? Vidhi Mody 9:52 AM Thank you! Soham Parekh 9:52 AM Thank youuuu

_____________________________________ = 2020-08-12 =
 * Attendance: Dom, Monte, Pita, Greg, JR, Elena, Anthony, John, Edward


 * JR
 * Has created team-level OKRs
 * Would like to translate these to KRs for the specific teams we are on
 * Discuss BrowserStack/Crossbrowser testing tools
 * Will create a shared doc for people to give feedback/use cases
 * Abstract Wikipedia have reached out to discuss QTE involvement
 * Dom: I am interested in being involved
 * QTE involvement with OKAPI

Vacations/Important dates

 * Pita is on holiday for one week (in two weeks time???)

_____________________________________ = 2020-07-29 =
 * Attendance: Monte, Greg, Elena, Dominic, Vidhi, Željko, Edward


 * Greg
 * Individual tuning conversations


 * Dom
 * OKRs?
 * product-team ones and individual/QTE team ones
 * I am on holiday next week (3rd-7th August)


 * Željko
 * BrowserStack - ignore
 * vacation 2020-08-03 - 2020-08-14 (or 2020-08-21)
 * GSoC interns will need help while I'm on vacation (next two weeks), please help them
 * Dom is willing to help (as far as his knowledge of Selenium goes...) 👍
 * Monte also said he's willing to help 👍


 * Elena
 * attended BrowserStack conference, will give a report on Test automation meeeting on Monday

_____________________________________ = 2020-07-01 = Attendance:
 * JR, Soham, Edward, John, Dominic, Elena, Greg, Vidhi, Željko

Vacations/Important dates

 * https://office.wikimedia.org/wiki/HR_Corner/Holiday_List
 * JR out July 2-3
 * Anthony out June 29th - July 3rd
 * Pita out July 2-3
 * Elena out July 6
 * John out July 4

Team Business

 * Q1 OKRs draft deadline pushed to July 7th
 * QTE Blog Posts
 * Vidhi and Soham could write an update about the last month/two of the internship
 * Accessibility best practices
 * Intro to hair cutting by JR +1
 * Software Testing Anti-Patterns
 * Testing Strategy
 * Test Environments - Getting to "Production Parity"
 * QTE organize the next EngProd Book Club?

Outgoing this week

 * Blocked by:
 * Blocking:
 * Updates:
 * Updates:
 * Updates:


 * Test Engineering
 * Quality Engineering
 * Code Health

Callouts

 * Quality and Test Engineering

Anthony

 * What I've got going on
 * What I need help with
 * What I'm blocked on
 * Other?
 * What I'm blocked on
 * Other?
 * Other?

Dom

 * What I've got going on
 * What I need help with
 * What I'm blocked on
 * Other?
 * What I'm blocked on
 * Other?
 * Other?

Edward

 * What I've got going on
 * Working with Zeljko on Selenium
 * Working on Data Testing with Hive
 * What I need help with
 * My semi-dialy meeting with Zeljko helps me with what I need help with
 * What I'm blocked on
 * Singapore Math for a Kindergartener.
 * Other?

Elena
-the User page? the QTE team (sub) pages? a specific Team drive?
 * What I've got going on
 * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Etonkovidova/GrowthExperiments
 * Guidance panel intensive testing for Growth team
 * looking more into Vuejs dev tools
 * What I need help with
 * Some additional feedback on where would be the best place to keep QA docs?
 * What I'm blocked on
 * Other?
 * Other?

Jean-Rene

 * What I've got going on
 * What I need help with
 * What I'm blocked on
 * Other?
 * What I'm blocked on
 * Other?
 * Other?

John

 * What I've got going on
 * What I need help with
 * What I'm blocked on
 * Other?
 * What I'm blocked on
 * Other?
 * Other?

Monte

 * What I've got going on
 * What I need help with
 * What I'm blocked on
 * Other?
 * What I'm blocked on
 * Other?
 * Other?

Pita

 * What I've got going on
 * What I need help with
 * What I'm blocked on
 * Other?
 * What I'm blocked on
 * Other?
 * Other?

Rummana

 * What I've got going on
 * What I need help with
 * What I'm blocked on
 * Other?
 * What I'm blocked on
 * Other?
 * Other?

Željko

 * What I've got going on
 * the first month of gsoc intership has ended, two more months
 * pairing with Edward
 * What I need help with
 * Error in pushing code to Gerrit for the phab-deployment repository https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255761
 * What I'm blocked on
 * Other?
 * I should have been on vacation this week, thanks covid 😷
 * I should have been on vacation this week, thanks covid 😷

Chat Transcript: Soham Parekh 9:01 AM Hey everyone John Bolorinos 9:01 AM my hair doesnt grow back unfortunately Greg Grossmeier 9:01 AM sorry John :) Dominic Walden 9:02 AM Bowl is for the blood, right? Greg Grossmeier 9:03 AM ..... John Bolorinos 9:03 AM hey I'm not complaining...one less thing to worry about I feel sorry for people who constantly have to cut their hair do you have pics of that JR? oldschoolcool John Bolorinos 9:04 AM I dont know how they even got my email Edward Tadros 9:04 AM i pushed them out for two weeks John Bolorinos 9:10 AM maybe accessibility best practices? you have a great blog Zeljko! Soham Parekh 9:13 AM its a great idea yes i have read timohs blog my microphone doesnt work as usual! Željko Filipin 9:15 AM https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T245251 Create QTE Phabricator blog Željko Filipin 9:16 AM as it should be! :) Soham Parekh 9:18 AM Maybe something on the lines of how testing impacts a community like Wikimedia..with all the extensions and the humungous codebase? John Bolorinos 9:19 AM how many languages would we want to post blog posts in? btw Zeljko, I found out they have an online version of the game! https://riskstormingonline.com/ Željko Filipin 9:20 AM that's great! Greg Grossmeier 9:21 AM /me goes to another meeting, sorry ya'll! John Bolorinos 9:23 AM I can definitely help with that! I could also help translate them into spanish if need be Dominic Walden 9:23 AM I might have one or two blog posts I could write Elena Tonkovidova 9:23 AM I don't have time but I'm interested :) Edward Tadros 9:24 AM i get bored from my own writing Elena Tonkovidova 9:25 AM a lengthy blog about semi-dialy meetings with Zeljko could not be fun :)) Željko Filipin 9:25 AM https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/quality-and-test-engineering-team_qte/ John Bolorinos 9:26 AM nice! Željko Filipin 9:27 AM https://www.amazon.com/Getting-Things-Done-Stress-Free-Productivity/dp/0143126563 Elena Tonkovidova 9:29 AM I read this one before GTD - https://www.amazon.com/Time-Management-System-Administrators-Working/dp/0596007833/ so the stuff in GTD was not totally new John Bolorinos 9:31 AM there's a #bookrecs slack channel John Bolorinos 9:34 AM wait is this the phabricator meeting? I'd be interested in joining John Bolorinos 9:35 AM I honestly dont think I've ever read that many testing books would definitely be interested in attending that, but probably not the best candidate to lead John Bolorinos 9:37 AM yeah west coast life is rough Dominic Walden 9:37 AM Come live in Europe! John Bolorinos 9:38 AM unfortunately we cant now cus they just banned americans John Bolorinos 9:39 AM it should just be a mandatory quarantine for everyone, 2 weeks, no exceptions not even boris johnson that also happened to me in Spain JR no one ever believed I was half spanish John Bolorinos 9:40 AM my spanish grandma thought I spoke french John Bolorinos 9:41 AM are there any vue.js testing books? Željko Filipin 9:41 AM Dom: is this what you had in mind for book club? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T247666 Elena Tonkovidova 9:41 AM do we have a phab task for everything? John Bolorinos 9:41 AM +1, that's a great idea Željko Filipin 9:41 AM https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/quality-and-test-engineering-team_qte/ Elena Tonkovidova 9:43 AM I am looking into https://vuejs.org/v2/guide/ and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Vue.js/Testing Edward Tadros 9:49 AM i have a time machine and coffee Dominic Walden 9:49 AM firefighting? John Bolorinos 9:49 AM +1, I'm in the same boat Elena Tonkovidova 9:54 AM yes, John - when instantaneous feedback is expected Elena Tonkovidova 9:57 AM (it's first time I hear about browser stack :)) John Bolorinos 9:58 AM That's why I love restaurants that only serve one dish each day Elena Tonkovidova 9:58 AM are there such restaurants?! John Bolorinos 9:59 AM Yes of course! They're hard to find but they're out there