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cant go to 2010 legacy[edit]

everytime i try to change from the vector 2022 to the vector 2010 it dosen't work, it says its change but its just locked into the 2022 version, anyone else having this problem and have a fix? Purpetic (talk) 00:21, 3 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello @Purpetic, thanks for coming here to ask this question. What option do you use to change the skins? Is it the link in the sidebar, or do you go directly to preferences? SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 14:41, 4 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
To update to the 2010 legacy, go to Settings -> Preferences -> Aspect. Select your preferred version (i.e. Vector legacy (2010)) and click on the save button. Refresh the page or clear your browser data to apply the changes. 49.236.20.80 18:08, 4 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

CSS issue[edit]

The right sidebar goes underneath the main content in small screens

Hello! I'm an interface admin from SqWiki. Can someone help me fix an issue on it with the 2020 Vector skin? The screenshot shows what I currently get in there if the window is not large enough. The tools sidebar on the right side goes underneath our page, instead of pushing it to change the layout (like the toolbar on the left does). This should be related to our layout but still don't understand properly why the right sidebar behaves differently from the left one and how to target and modify it so they behave the same. - Klein Muçi (talk) 08:13, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello @Klein Muçi, thanks for coming here. I believe T366314 should solve the problem. We'll be rolling it out in the coming weeks - it's difficult to tell when exactly because there may be blocking bugs. SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 15:03, 6 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
SGrabarczuk, oh, okay then. No problem. Thank you for letting me know it's being worked on. — Klein Muçi (talk) 09:31, 7 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
I'm back sooner than I was expecting to. Now our headers have gone completely out of proportions in Vector legacy. Can you point me on any way on how to address that? - Klein Muçi (talk) 07:18, 9 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Was able to handle it with the instructions explained here: Heading HTML changes — Klein Muçi (talk) 23:54, 10 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Common.css and Vector.css are loaded too early[edit]

Hi. I am trying to make some modifications in the CSS for the entire site (a small private wiki), more specifically setting a washed out backdrop picture for the site. It should be easy with CSS from Common.css or Vector.css but it appears that both are loaded quite early and overwritten by the skin's own CSS (I presume @media screen... comes from the skin).

I would expect Common.css and Vector.css to be loaded last, so we have a chance of modifying the "final" CSS before displaying. Steff-X (talk) 13:10, 6 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

What version of MediaWiki are you using? Jdlrobson (talk) 14:03, 6 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

How to sharpen the font[edit]

After 2022, when it was imposed on us, I'm again back to Vector 2022 temporarily. There has been a regression with XfDCloser on enwiki with Vector 2010, so I have to be on Vector 2022 until that is fixed (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:XFDcloser#XFDCloser_not_showing_up_in_Vector_2010 )

How do we make the fonts same as Vector 2010. In 2010 the fonts are sharp and easier to read. In Vector 2022, the fonts are faded/jaded/less black/blurred and makes it harder to read. Any customizations we can do? Jay (talk) 09:13, 8 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

TOC updates?[edit]

I'm back on Vector 2022 after an year and a half, and notice no improvement on the TOC. At /Archive7#TOC level we had discussed about maintaining the top level TOC only, but I still see the full expansion of multiple levels at en:Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion#Current list making it unusable. At that discussion User:Shells-shells had tried explaining the issue to User:OVasileva (WMF).

At /Archive8#Old style TOC in Vector-2022 Skin, User:Jonesey95 had provided a FAQ entry (which I had tried without success), but now that entry is missing in the FAQ. User:SGrabarczuk (WMF) had said he would ask the developers in the team to update the script that will bring back the old TOC, but I see that was the last post of that discussion.

Also, since we are at TOC, is there a way to make the TOC (of talk pages) concise? I do not wish each entry to be on two lines, where the second line mentions the number of comments. Looking for a simple one line per entry kind of TOC. Jay (talk) 20:38, 12 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hey @Jay, thanks for the reminder! The reason why not much in the TOC has changed over the last 1.5 years is that since last year, we've been focused on a new project - Accessibility for reading. Before that, we did have some feedback about TOC, but I guess the direction wasn't clear enough for us to make more changes. Currently, we're revisiting tasks related to Desktop Improvements, and we'll definitely talk about the issues you're pointing at.
Regarding the TOC of the talk pages, that's actually part of the Talk pages project by a different team. The goal for introducing this second line was for junior contributors to be able to tell more easily that what they're seeing is a TOC of different discussions, and not a TOC of article sections. Because adding that second line was on purpose, I guess that the only way to disable it is by adding .ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta {display:none} in your personal CSS.
I wholeheartedly encourage you to subscribe to our newsletter. We send messages whenever there's important news to share. You won't miss anything if you subscribe. Thanks! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 22:54, 12 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
As with the Visual Editor, which was in beta for something like ten years, the WMF developers have for the most part moved on from development of Vector 2022. Straightforward fixes like making the sticky header consistent with the default top-of-page header (no progress since June 2023), or making the sticky header visible on all pages (no progress since February 2023), are stalled. See the task board for more status information. I recommend that you explore the various CSS adjustments that you can apply to your personal vector-2022.css file. See en:User:Jonesey95/common.css for the fixes that I have applied to make Vector 2022 usable on my computer. Jonesey95 (talk) 04:13, 13 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Somewhat unrelated: I believe that the number of comments shown below each talk page heading in the TOC is provided by the Beta feature called "Discussion Tools". You can disable that Beta feature in your Preferences. I could be wrong about this. Jonesey95 (talk) 04:16, 13 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Jonesey95 you're right, some tasks are straightforward from purely engineering perspective, but I wouldn't call these tickets "fixes" because there are product/design considerations at play. Enabling the sticky header in more namespaces wasn't done because the team decided that we wouldn't do that in namespaces where there would be few buttons in the sticky header. (Like in special pages, there's no talk page, edit, history, or watch.) In addition, these requests were triaged as "of low priority".
Having said that - if you'd like to point at more tasks or not yet documented issues, please let me know!
(And yes, you're correct, the the number of comments shown below each talk page heading in the TOC is provided by the Beta feature called "Discussion Tools". But within weeks, it won't be a beta feature - it will become a regular part of the skin. That's why I suggested to personalize this with CSS.)
Thanks! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 18:00, 13 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Different Wikipedia look[edit]

Hello all, since yesterday, wikipedia is appearing a bit differently for me. The central content is more wider, and infoboxes appear weirder and different. When we use the main article thing, for eg, when I use the main article, there is a dark grey box around it which wasnt there before. Is there any way I can change the setting back?

Main page: Wikipedia

Pharaoh496 (talk) 10:15, 14 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

I am seeing the same things. SimplyLouis27 (talk) 12:07, 14 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Well then I would appreciate some help on how to revert back by someone Pharaoh496 (talk) 14:08, 14 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Mine has changed back now. SimplyLouis27 (talk) 17:17, 14 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
same Pharaoh496 (talk) 12:16, 15 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Pharaoh496 and SimplyLouis27: FYI: The message from the WMF web team regarding recent interface change. SCP-2000 (talk) 04:20, 16 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Language links don't work in 2010 editor[edit]

Probably it was already reported, but due to the yesterday's changes, I changed the skin to Vector (2010), and I didn't even remember that the language links do work while editing in the 2010 editor. With Vector (2022), it only works with 2017 and visual editor. Vinickw 18:21, 14 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

What do you mean by language links? Nardog (talk) 18:00, 15 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
The languages dropdown menu, in the top right corner. If you are editing using the 2010 editor it'll show "add languages", even though it's available in others wikis. Vinickw 19:52, 15 June 2024 (UTC)Reply