User talk:Platonides
Dear Platonides, Welcome to MediaWiki.org!
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Thanks, and regards, – Innv | d | s: 12:44, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
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Documentation summit [edit]
Platonides:
Did you know about the Doc Camp this October?
"Individuals with a passion for free documentation about free software may apply to attend by filling out the application form and submitting before 5 August, 2011.... Accommodation and food will be covered by the GSoC Doc Camp. Part or complete travel costs can also be applied for as part of the application process."
I'm going to send a proposal to get MediaWiki into the Doc Camp and to have us do a Quick Sprint to improve MediaWiki's documentation. Please let me know if you know people I should include in my proposal.
best, Sumanah 17:10, 22 July 2011 (UTC) Volunteer Development Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation
cite.php - Extension to references [edit]
Hello Platonides, on wikipedia-de and elsewhere there have been discussion on extending the syntax of the <ref>-Tags in a way to make it possible to pass information about page-numbers along with the name= - tag.
I have been referred to you by Raymond, as you have been recently working on the cite.php-code. I hope that you could give me some hints on how this extension could be implemented.
The objective has been described before at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite/Cite.php#Criticisms :
- Using cite.php makes citing page numbers harder. Each reference usually cites a different page of the book/journal/article, but there is no way to indicate a different page number when using a self-closing tag. As such, all <ref name="xyz" /></nowiki> simply refer to the work as a whole, rather than to a specific page number in the work (unless the author makes each page number a seperate reference). Perhaps a future revision of cite.php could allow a page number argument to be passed to the reference like so <ref name="xyz" page="42-43" />. This would dramatically increase the reputability of the citations, because they could then be checked/verified, and the citations would be a more useful resource.
At the moment, pagenumbers are given either by creating separate entries for each pagenumber-range in the <references> ... </references>-Section (as in de:Hot Rats or by not using the name-tags and giving the actual page numbers within the <ref>...</ref>-Tags, as in de:Frank Zappa. Some authors repeat the complete reference (including author, title, editor, year etc.) together with the individual page numbers in each footnote. There is also the possibility to use the template {{rp}}, but this is disputed because it gets quite tedious to go back and forth in order to get the complete information about a reference. Moreover, it seems not to be very common to give the pagenumber along the footnote number in the text (at least not in non-English publications).
Ideally, the syntax of the ref-Tags would be extended in a way that page-numbers could be supplied within the <ref>...</ref>-Tags as a parameter. There is a bug for that (as Raymond pointed out to me), that proposes that kind of extension: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13127. There, a patch has been proposed, too. If I understand the code and especially Raymond right, the changes are quite big and this might be the reason that the code has not been reviewed and implemented yet. (cf. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=6286&action=diff)
Btw, it might be completely sufficient not to group the footnotes by the page parameter too but to just pass it to the text in the footnote, i. e:
The code
<ref name="foo" page="p. 42-43" />
with
<references> <ref name="foo">Bar, </ref> </references>
will yield the footnote</nowiki>
1. ↑ Bar, p. 42-43
Here, also the writing of page or p. is left to the author, thus eleminating the need for local adaption (and translating page in all languages of the wikimedia projects).
Sorry, this has become longer than I intended... I would be very thankful if you could give me your opinion on how difficult it would be to implement such a extension (either the code described in the bugzilla-entry or the here proposed more simple version).
Thank you very much for any comment!
Best regards --Hei ber 18:52, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
WSC change [edit]
Sorry, thought they were number of supporters rather than priority. WereSpielChequers (talk) 11:21, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
A barnstar for you! [edit]
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The Original Barnstar |
| Thanks for providing the Spanish translation for the Athena deck! Jorm (WMF) (talk) 18:15, 22 August 2012 (UTC) |
