Topic on Talk:Winter

Patrick Stützel (talkcontribs)

In my opinion the Idea oft winter is good, but there are some things which are a little bit confusing:

  1. The Design: It seems to be mixture of the actual vector surface and the mobile surface, two totaly different things which doesn't fit together. It has no clear structure, because there are three different kind of things to klick on. In the Personal Toolbar you have grey icons; in the toolbar on the top of the articletext you have a bold text with icons; below the wikiglobe you have "normal" links like in vector.
  2. The dropdownmenus and the toolbars: The personal toolbar contains all points which are also part of the dropdownmenu, why? Same question for the dropdownmenu next to the wikipedialogo, which contains all features of the toolbar on the top of the articletext. In my opinion you should use either a toolbar or a dropdownmenu.
  3. The Table of Content: it is a part of the article, so it should be visible on its normal position and not hidden in a dropdownmenu.
  4. The searchbar: It is too large for the desktop version.
  5. The right colum: If you have an article without infobox and Commons-Template (e.g. the german version of the winter, the colum is nearly empty and wastes much space on the screen especially on small screens. In my opinion it would be better to remove the collum an put the interwikis into the left collum, the infobox into the text area (like in vector) and the Commons-Template below the infobox, because the Article itself is the most important thing and should get as many space as possible.
  6. The technik behind the surface: if JS was turned off, it is impossible to read the article, because you don't see it. In my opinion the text must be readable without js, because there are people who disamble js or they use computers where js is blocked for security reasons. Because of this, there should be a textbox which says "you should enamble Javascript to see the full layout and use all tools" on the top of a readable version of the article itselft.
  7. the layout of the headlines: there should be a line below the headline like in the vector skin, because without this line you don't see where a main-section starts and ends, because all headlines nearly look the same.
  8. the history page: there must be a possibility to visit the diff-pages, because without this possibility the history-page looses much of its sense.
  9. the backgroundcolors: the background is completely white, only the background of the right colum is grey. Why? In my opinion there should be a clear difference between the article text background and the background of the rest of the page like in vector, so that the reader can see this is the article and this is the other stuff around the article, which is not a part of the article.
  10. the top bar which you see all the time: in my opinion this bar wastes much space, if you have a small display, so its better to remove the bar or give a possibility to fix the bar on the top of the article.
  11. hover-effects: they should be removed, because they don't work on a touchscreen and especially the hover-effect in the searchbar is very confusing.
  12. hiding things in dropdownmenus: in my opinion all links should be visible like in vector. Only buttons which are less important like move, delete or protect should be hidden in a dropdownmenu, if there is not enough space on the screen.
  13. the "more"-button in the toolbar on the top of the article (bug?): it behaves strange, because the box around the text, which apears, when you move the mouse over the button, ends around the "r" of "more" and does not include the arrow next to the text.

I think these are all things, which are confusing for me.

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