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How is having a user page grounds for deletion?

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Dsc (talkcontribs)

I am very serious: I was furious when I saw that deletion. This is everything wrong with Wikipedia culture. How can it possibly ever be a good idea to delete a page that exists only to validate a user's existence and contribution? It is almost incidental that Dan is an employee of WMF and on my team -- no matter what he should have been welcomed into the community as a potential contributor and showered with encouragement. If he was a nobody and saw that response, I would not blame him for leaving your a profanity-laden comment and simply never coming back to the community. Is that what we want?

Jasper Deng (talkcontribs)

It's local policy that userpages should be in project scope, if you want to change that please file an RfC.

I would not have deleted had I verified him as a WMF employee or if it have (WMF). It said nothing more than his name, which looks no different from a test page that's routinely deleted. I could've just as easily used "no meaningful content" - I don't work for the foundation and wouldn't have known he was with you.

Once again I apologize, though you should note that this policy is purely local to this wiki.

Milimetric (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Thank you Jasper for the welcome message on my talk page. And thank you dsc for sticking up for me and other initially clueless users out there. I'm totally new to the world of wiki and I'm looking forward to learning more about the community. If I might suggest, the policy might be a little smoother if it had two steps:

  • Post the same welcome message you left on my talk page, with a warning added that the page might be deleted if it's left blank for too long.
  • If no action is taken to change the page within a couple of weeks or some reasonable period of time, then maybe clean up the page.

This post was posted by Milimetric (WMF), but signed as DAndreescu.

Jasper Deng (talkcontribs)

I used to use {{delete}}, but when I did another sysop told me to not wait. I'm going to have to have a talk with that sysop.

Jasper Deng (talkcontribs)

On this note, I didn't have the time to leave {{scope}} for the user, which I usually do.

However, I do want to say that in the cases I've seen, a user with a userpage not related at all to MediaWiki is very likely here to do something off-topic. I never mean to bite new users and I want more people to contribute to the software. The local deletion log contains many such cases.

Sumanah (talkcontribs)

Could you please point me to the policy that says we should delete people's userpages if those userpages do not explicitly mention their connection to Wikimedia or MediaWiki? I'd like to suggest that we change that policy so that we *ask* people what their connection is first, rather than deleting straightaway.

Jasper Deng (talkcontribs)
Sumanah (talkcontribs)

OK, I see that there's an implication there that people's userpages should explicitly mention their connection to MW or WM. But I'm specifically looking for the policy stating that we should delete first and ask questions later.

Jasper Deng (talkcontribs)

On that, I mistook another sysop's directions to not wait. SVG was that sysop and clarified this to me (and revdeleted Dsc's edit summary).

Usually that page's policy is grounds for speedy deletion, and there's nothing written down about the use of {{delete}}; {{speedy}} has been used in the past for such userpages too.

Nor is Dsc's comment supported by any existing policy on this wiki.

Delfark (talkcontribs)

Hi, Sorry,I didn't know about such restriction for the user's pages. But I wasn't here for a quite long time and now I can see that my documentation is gone. I was collecting it for some years. I would really appreciate if you could send me the code from history/backup (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Delfark) to delfark@yahoo.com . Thanks,

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